China Coronavirus

[Angelo]

What's your views now Angelo on the number of cases and limited ICU beds to possibly cover everyone?

Oh and we know the shortage on the NHS, been like that for years

If we've known of the shortage on the NHS for years then why haven't we fixed it? That's the biggest problem.

Covid is not the only show in town. I think the approach we should take is the one that causes the least unnecessary loss of life and least long-lasting consequences. I think Covid tunnel vision is doing more harm that it is preventing. You might have a different opinion but time will tell.

Because there is no money and successive gov have let it go this way

Why haven't they?

[Angelo]

Our mental health system is the worst in Europe id say,  giving tablets seems to be the main thing there , have you the figures on the increased suicides for the north? We can leave the house, the lockdown does not prevent us leaving the house or an abuser. unless they have locked the door

So you have no empathy for mental health sufferers or the abused, do you have the same attitude to rape, they could have just walked away, or covered up a bit more?

Rape! WTF man you are on a roll. Must be on the whacky

Chances are that people who are in situations with abusers will be subjected to that.

That's one of potential consequences that certain elements of the media and commentators want to cut out of the narrative, there are many vulnerable people who are left in precarious situations in situation of lockdown and restrictive measures?

Surely you can appreciate that vulnerable people are impacted negatively by lockdowns and restrictive measures?

[armaghniac]

Mid Ulster now has the highest COVID positive rate in the north

Derry City and Strabane and Newry and Mourne are down one third in a week. with Mid Ulster up to a 7 day rate of 536.9.
The improvement in Derry has to offer some hope for other places, if every place could drop one third in a week then the pressure would be eased substantially.

[GetOverTheBar]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/27/protests-flare-up-in-italy-against-new-coronavirus-restrictions

We'll be seeing a bit more of this in the coming weeks and months.

[Angelo]

Mid Ulster now has the highest COVID positive rate in the north

Derry City and Strabane and Newry and Mourne are down one third in a week. with Mid Ulster up to a 7 day rate of 536.9.
The improvement in Derry has to offer some hope for other places, if every place could drop one third in a week then the pressure would be eased substantially.

The Derry City and Strabane rates were hardly sustainable though. It was in 1 in 10 of confirmed positive cases per population over a 7/14 day period. If that sustained itself you'd have herd immunity in a couple of months.

[Milltown Row2]

What's your views now Angelo on the number of cases and limited ICU beds to possibly cover everyone?

Oh and we know the shortage on the NHS, been like that for years

If we've known of the shortage on the NHS for years then why haven't we fixed it? That's the biggest problem.

Covid is not the only show in town. I think the approach we should take is the one that causes the least unnecessary loss of life and least long-lasting consequences. I think Covid tunnel vision is doing more harm that it is preventing. You might have a different opinion but time will tell.

Because there is no money and successive gov have let it go this way

Why haven't they?

Seriously?

[HiMucker]

What's your views now Angelo on the number of cases and limited ICU beds to possibly cover everyone?

Oh and we know the shortage on the NHS, been like that for years

If we've known of the shortage on the NHS for years then why haven't we fixed it? That's the biggest problem.

Covid is not the only show in town. I think the approach we should take is the one that causes the least unnecessary loss of life and least long-lasting consequences. I think Covid tunnel vision is doing more harm that it is preventing. You might have a different opinion but time will tell.

I've never really understood this soundbite.

Of course, in the first few months after the emergence of the virus a lot of stuff was cancelled out of caution. But that seems to be happening less frequently now that more about risk is understood.

The main issue right now seems to be that other services are suffering because resources are re-routed to deal with hospitalised COVID patients.

But these COVID patients are seriously ill. Many will die without immediate hospital treatment. So what option is there other than to use your resources to treat them?

We can't turn away from hospitals people struggling to breath - "Sorry mate, COVID quota maxed out for the day. Morgue is floor two on your way down."

[Milltown Row2]

Our mental health system is the worst in Europe id say,  giving tablets seems to be the main thing there , have you the figures on the increased suicides for the north? We can leave the house, the lockdown does not prevent us leaving the house or an abuser. unless they have locked the door

So you have no empathy for mental health sufferers or the abused, do you have the same attitude to rape, they could have just walked away, or covered up a bit more?

Rape! WTF man you are on a roll. Must be on the whacky

Chances are that people who are in situations with abusers will be subjected to that.

That's one of potential consequences that certain elements of the media and commentators want to cut out of the narrative, there are many vulnerable people who are left in precarious situations in situation of lockdown and restrictive measures?

Surely you can appreciate that vulnerable people are impacted negatively by lockdowns and restrictive measures?

Chances are!?

Restrictions are not stopping people leaving the house, have said this already.  The police Service and abuse services are open.

We are not restricted to leaving the house so they can go

[Angelo]

Our mental health system is the worst in Europe id say,  giving tablets seems to be the main thing there , have you the figures on the increased suicides for the north? We can leave the house, the lockdown does not prevent us leaving the house or an abuser. unless they have locked the door

So you have no empathy for mental health sufferers or the abused, do you have the same attitude to rape, they could have just walked away, or covered up a bit more?

Rape! WTF man you are on a roll. Must be on the whacky

Chances are that people who are in situations with abusers will be subjected to that.

That's one of potential consequences that certain elements of the media and commentators want to cut out of the narrative, there are many vulnerable people who are left in precarious situations in situation of lockdown and restrictive measures?

Surely you can appreciate that vulnerable people are impacted negatively by lockdowns and restrictive measures?

Chances are!?

Restrictions are not stopping people leaving the house, have said this already.  The police Service and abuse services are open.

We are not restricted to leaving the house so they can go

Why did domestic violence cases seen huge rises during the first lockdown?

This is the problem here, you are arguing something that is an absolute fact. Why can't you even acknowledge the huge societal consequences that come as a result of our strategy to curb Covid?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/17/domestic-abuse-surged-in-lockdown-panorama-investigation-finds-coronavirus

Are domestic violence victims are an irrelevance.

[Rossfan]

Ignorance is a terrible affliction.

[armaghniac]

Why did domestic violence cases seen huge rises during the first lockdown?

This is the problem here, you are arguing something that is an absolute fact. Why can't you even acknowledge the huge societal consequences that come as a result of our strategy to curb Covid?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/17/domestic-abuse-surged-in-lockdown-panorama-investigation-finds-coronavirus

Are domestic violence victims are an irrelevance.

If people are committing domestic violence then they shoud be prosecuted, other people should not be expected to sacrifice their life or health to facilitate these abusers.

13 deaths reported in NI today, there are only a few days in the troubles when so many died and we can probably remember these.

[Milltown Row2]

What happened during that period is horrendous, though the services were still operating and the police were still operating. The government was slow to give more funding towards the safe guarding services, the lady in that piece wasn't just being abused because of Covid.

We are passed the first lockdown by a good few months and we've got far more movement than some other countries like Wales and n the 26 they've got heavier restrictions.

[Rossfan]

720 cases in the 26 today and I think 722 in the 6.
WHO saying Europe needs to do a lot more to keep Covid down.
Curfews in France and Spain and Belgium in trouble.
But the GAAboard virologists want life to go back to February 2020.

[Angelo]

Ignorance is a terrible affliction.

You would know.

[Angelo]

Why did domestic violence cases seen huge rises during the first lockdown?

This is the problem here, you are arguing something that is an absolute fact. Why can't you even acknowledge the huge societal consequences that come as a result of our strategy to curb Covid?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/17/domestic-abuse-surged-in-lockdown-panorama-investigation-finds-coronavirus

Are domestic violence victims are an irrelevance.

If people are committing domestic violence then they shoud be prosecuted, other people should not be expected to sacrifice their life or health to facilitate these abusers.

13 deaths reported in NI today, there are only a few days in the troubles when so many died and we can probably remember these.

If you look at the death notices on any give day you would realise 13 people dying in a give day is not that uncommon. You're comparing mostly eldery people with underlying health issues dying to people being murdered.

That's a bit hysterical, isn't it?

If people are committing domestic violence? Domestic violence cases dramatically increased during lockdown, lockdown and excessive social restrictions are a trigger for domestic violence. Not a great attitude to domestic violence victims is it?

Some people here seem to be disinterested in any sort of injury, damage or death unless it's Covid which is asbolutely shocking.