China Coronavirus

[armaghniac]

I still think staff are a good part of the reason for this problem (through no fault of their own). Between asyptomatic nature and lack of PPE.

Prof. Philip Nolan had a very informative chart on yesterday'sCovid briefing. This showed the growth in the community and the growth in homes lagging that by a week or 10 days, so people carried it into the homes after the initial measures.

[HiMucker]

Whats was Jonnycools word of the day again? Ultracrepidarian

[Smurfy123]

Professor Isaac Benn has indicated that the Coronavirus dies out after 70 days regardless of lockdowns. Everyone's lockdown is different but all results are the same in terms of what is happening.
Interesting read

[trailer]

There isn't and won't be enough tests.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52405852

Do you know that there is a factory currently being built in Antrim, to house 100s of machines, with each having the capability of doing 1000s of tests every few hours? This is state of the art technology. This has been purpose built because of covid-19. So again, you haven't a clue that there won't be enough tests. You are right that there currently isn't enough, and you may end up being right that there will never be enough, but you don't know that as fact, and Ive seen enough evidence to have hope that that won't be the case.

I didn't know that and I welcome it. Testing is part of the solution coupled with contact tracing and then isolation. But due to huge incompetence in government and at a scientific and medical level we're way way behind. An effective antibody test is also crucial.

[LeoMc]

Professor Isaac Benn has indicated that the Coronavirus dies out after 70 days regardless of lockdowns. Everyone's lockdown is different but all results are the same in terms of what is happening.
Interesting read

The first line of the article
Isaac Ben-Israel, who is not a medical expert, says......

You are pacing faith in a former IDF General who is now head of the Security Studies program in Tel Aviv University. Asked to explain the phenomenon, Ben-Israel, who also heads Israel's Space Agency, later said: "I have no explanation. There are all kinds of speculations. Maybe it's related to climate, or the virus has a life-span of its own

[J70]

Professor Isaac Benn has indicated that the Coronavirus dies out after 70 days regardless of lockdowns. Everyone's lockdown is different but all results are the same in terms of what is happening.
Interesting read

The first line of the article
Isaac Ben-Israel, who is not a medical expert, says......

You are pacing faith in a former IDF General who is now head of the Security Studies program in Tel Aviv University. Asked to explain the phenomenon, Ben-Israel, who also heads Israel's Space Agency, later said: "I have no explanation. There are all kinds of speculations. Maybe it's related to climate, or the virus has a life-span of its own

It would be great if the cycle were over in 70 days.

The obvious problem is how many people get sick and how many die during that cycle.

And then, given that this is not medieval Europe (where even then a rat flea-borne pandemic spread across the continent killing more than half the population in a year or so), how do you stop new outbreaks when someone flies in and infects someone who missed it first time around?

[dec]

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217095682470948864

@WHO Replying to @M_FerreiraDVM

"@M_FerreiraDVM Hi Matt, there has been no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV).
However, such transmission is always a concern when patients have respiratory symptoms - this requires further investigation.
9:46 AM · Jan 14, 2020"

[tintin25]

Loads about Lisburn today, majority of shops obviously closed but you'd think it was just a normal Friday

Some rare looking characters queuing outside the off licence lol

[Taylor]

There isn't and won't be enough tests.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52405852

This 100,000 a day isnt looking good

[johnnycool]

Just to correct you, on January 14 WHO said in a press conference that there was human to human transmission. They also issued instructions for countries as to how best to deal with this. Countries like the uk and USA ignored this advice until well into March.

Source? Note that on the same day, they tweeted the precise opposite.

World Health Organization (WHO) @WHO
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #ChinaFlag of China.

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

20th of Jan looks like the time the Chinese reported human to human transmission to everyone including the WHO.

https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1656260737518836127&wfr=spider&for=pc

[johnnycool]

There isn't and won't be enough tests.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52405852

This 100,000 a day isnt looking good

Plucked out of thin air by a lying bollox to buy him some time when the UK "Science" wasn't the least bit interested in testing.

It's only now they're looking at it in a meaningful way to ease the lockdown.

The Norn Iron CMO is slower still. Total Muppet.

Keir Starmer was bang on the money the other day at PMQ's.

[seafoid]

Covid is a wild motherfucker of a virus

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30937-5/fulltext

"Cardiovascular complications are rapidly emerging as a key threat in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in addition to respiratory disease. The mechanisms underlying the disproportionate effect of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection on patients with cardiovascular comorbidities, however, remain incompletely understood.1,  2
SARS-CoV-2 infects the host using the angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor, which is expressed in several organs, including the lung, heart, kidney, and intestine.
......

...vulnerable patients with pre-existing endothelial dysfunction, which is associated with males, smoking, hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and established cardiovascular disease, all of which are associated with adverse outcomes in COVID-19."

[armaghniac]

Professor Isaac Benn has indicated that the Coronavirus dies out after 70 days regardless of lockdowns. Everyone's lockdown is different but all results are the same in terms of what is happening.
Interesting read

There is more manure  in this thread than the gardening one.

Let's take the example of Singapore, first cases in January. That is 90 days ago, so they should be smiling at this stage, yet oddly they are finding almost 1000 cases a day!!!

[five points]

There is more manure  in this thread than the gardening one.

Let's take the example of Singapore, first cases in January. That is 90 days ago, so they should be smiling at this stage, yet oddly they are finding almost 1000 cases a day!!!

Something to do with pockets of migrant workers hidden from sight I understand.

[Itchy]

Professor Isaac Benn has indicated that the Coronavirus dies out after 70 days regardless of lockdowns. Everyone's lockdown is different but all results are the same in terms of what is happening.
Interesting read

There is more manure  in this thread than the gardening one.

Let's take the example of Singapore, first cases in January. That is 90 days ago, so they should be smiling at this stage, yet oddly they are finding almost 1000 cases a day!!!

Smurfy source is right, sorry have to go now and blast my body with high doses ultraviolet light and inject myself with Domestos. See you on the other side.