China Coronavirus

[imtommygunn]

I unfortunately think that the current prime minister is such an unscrupulous person he may see this as an opportunity

[ardtole]

My own 2 cents, I don't think its much too worry about - It is mostly killing older people which if you see mortality rates in China/Italy compared to Germany (lower age population) is why deaths are so high in those countries. The stockpiling which has started is causing people to panic to get out to the shops so they have necessities, although the 10 bags of pasta the man infront of me had this morning was taking the piss a bit.

I do think the NHS will collapse (be allowed too) under the stress and it will be sold off privately why BoJo hasn;t called a country lockdown for UK

I dont understand why because it is only killing older people, it's not too much to worry about. If for instance I was to get it through work, public transport etc and passed it on unintentionally to a neighbour or family member who was more susceptible to the Coronavirus than me, and died, I'd find it very hard to live with.

Surely we have a social responsibility to make whatever sacrifices in the short term to protect everyone from this virus.

[RedHand88]

3000 atletico fans who can't watch their team at home because of COVID-19 will be in Liverpool tonight. This could really set it off in England.

[ardtole]

I thought I heard on the news last night that Italy had a 6% mortality rate, now I had only flicked over and could have picked it up wrong, but if true is very concerning.

[RedHand88]

This thread is seriously depressing and not because of the threat of Covid-19 but for the simple face people can't have a reasoned debate without the need to constantly snipe at each other to the point that getting the dig in is the number one objective. Any debate or conversation is completely lost. People don't always agree but why the need to keep with retaliation after retaliation.

Everyone is an expert virologist these days, did you not notice?   

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I thought I heard on the news last night that Italy had a 6% mortality rate, now I had only flicked over and could have picked it up wrong, but if true is very concerning.

Yes that is correct. 6% in Italy

[BennyCake]

Work in a building of 200+ people or so in Belfast. I've been fairly critical of our response to this whole coronavirus response and have been on at them for weeks to get people the ability to work from home. We've an office in Portadown also and in Dublin. I was speaking with a colleague in Portadown yesterday and she told me that they had a member of staff who was working in an isolated room on his own as he was at the same party as the Portadown footballer that tested positive a few days ago. He was in close contact with the footballer for an extended period of time. This guy wasn't sent home, he was put into a room and allowed to work from there as no ability to work from home. To me this is highly reckless and is a disaster waiting to happen.

In my office, I work in very close proximity with a guy from St Galls who was in the bar at the same time as their club member was who has now been confirmed as positive. He went to management to express concerns and they told him not to worry and to let them know if he had any symptoms then they would look at him taking time off.

Seriously considering laying off work for a few days as its going to dramatically shoot up and I literally cannot risk being exposed. I, and I'm sure along with many others, have very close family members that would be in the mortality bracket. If they get it, it's game over.

f**k sake.

This should not have got to this point. We can't rely on every person to self isolate. It should have been made compulsory for those entering the country. I fear it's far too late now.

[trailer]

My own 2 cents, I don't think its much too worry about - It is mostly killing older people which if you see mortality rates in China/Italy compared to Germany (lower age population) is why deaths are so high in those countries. The stockpiling which has started is causing people to panic to get out to the shops so they have necessities, although the 10 bags of pasta the man infront of me had this morning was taking the piss a bit.

I do think the NHS will collapse (be allowed too) under the stress and it will be sold off privately why BoJo hasn;t called a country lockdown for UK

You should have called the **** out. Selfish p***k.

[johnnycool]

I thought I heard on the news last night that Italy had a 6% mortality rate, now I had only flicked over and could have picked it up wrong, but if true is very concerning.

Yes that is correct. 6% in Italy

Newnight was interesting last night in so much as one of the US based scientists was asked the question who is leading the way in dealing with it and who wasn't.

He felt that China had gotten the hold of it but only by introducing measures that would be unpallatable in the west but felt that South Korea were on the right path as they were carrying out a serious amount of testing and were then able to contain it better.

The worst he felt was actually the US as their levels of testing was multiples of magnitude less than the South Korean's and hence in the US they'd no idea where or how even to start containing to any significant degree.

WRT the UK, they seem to be following the train of scientific thought that there needs to be a reasonable amount of contagion within the population to allow immunisation to take hold, nip this in the bud too early and there's be a larger second wave if not the summer then autumn winter this/next year.

Boris knows that the NHS can't cope with a huge outbreak in those months and is holding out till the summer.

[BennyCake]

My own 2 cents, I don't think its much too worry about - It is mostly killing older people which if you see mortality rates in China/Italy compared to Germany (lower age population) is why deaths are so high in those countries. The stockpiling which has started is causing people to panic to get out to the shops so they have necessities, although the 10 bags of pasta the man infront of me had this morning was taking the piss a bit.

I do think the NHS will collapse (be allowed too) under the stress and it will be sold off privately why BoJo hasn;t called a country lockdown for UK

Some of us are at risk now. It's not just the elderly!

[five points]

My own 2 cents, I don't think its much too worry about - It is mostly killing older people which if you see mortality rates in China/Italy compared to Germany (lower age population) is why deaths are so high in those countries. The stockpiling which has started is causing people to panic to get out to the shops so they have necessities, although the 10 bags of pasta the man infront of me had this morning was taking the piss a bit.

I do think the NHS will collapse (be allowed too) under the stress and it will be sold off privately why BoJo hasn;t called a country lockdown for UK

Who on earth would buy a collapsed health system?

[Keyser soze]

My own 2 cents, I don't think its much too worry about - It is mostly killing older people which if you see mortality rates in China/Italy compared to Germany (lower age population) is why deaths are so high in those countries. The stockpiling which has started is causing people to panic to get out to the shops so they have necessities, although the 10 bags of pasta the man infront of me had this morning was taking the piss a bit.

I do think the NHS will collapse (be allowed too) under the stress and it will be sold off privately why BoJo hasn;t called a country lockdown for UK

Surely the best so far!

[Taylor]

My own 2 cents, I don't think its much too worry about - It is mostly killing older people which if you see mortality rates in China/Italy compared to Germany (lower age population) is why deaths are so high in those countries. The stockpiling which has started is causing people to panic to get out to the shops so they have necessities, although the 10 bags of pasta the man infront of me had this morning was taking the piss a bit.

I do think the NHS will collapse (be allowed too) under the stress and it will be sold off privately why BoJo hasn;t called a country lockdown for UK

I dont think (hope) you arent saying it isnt much to worry about that its mostly killing older people considering that would directly impact millions of people who have older relatives......you also forgot to mention the high volume of those sick that arent 'old' that it will also kill off.

All things considered if it hits these shores with the ferocity it has hit China & Italy then the old, sick and their relatives have plenty to worry about

[Itchy]

Not in the slightest. My issue is with this man who seems to have a rather odd obsession with me because I don't really want to take to an internet message board expressing life as we know it is over. Please disregard any general point directed at him because I've just taken to prodding him now.

I'm willing to reply in a normal manner with anyone else about this - my point is that I grew up in Ulster during the troubles, without the whole sob story, unfortunately I've seen things that kind of stick with you. I've had enough of life living in fear and wondering what the next week is going to bring. This Covid 19 may well continue around for months, it may not. I just won't be taking heed to sensationalists like this guy in here.

"I grew up during the Troubles" is the strangest excuse I've heard yet for playing down the threat of this virus.

It's not downplaying it, not one bit. It's that it won't, all being well and within Govt regulations change my day to day life in any way if I can help it. Which I'm sure you'll agree is a reasonable thing for anyone to do.

The problem with AFM is, he/she/"it" thinks that if you don't lock yourself up here your a carrier and is really bordering on Schizophrenia in this thread and has already accused me of carrying the disease for Christ sake.

If you are not changing your every day behaviours then you are part of the problem. My work place has just implemented rules reducing number in canteen, insisting people stay 2m apart in meeting rooms and temperature checks at the doors in the morning. Its a change but it is absolutely warranted.

[Itchy]

I thought I heard on the news last night that Italy had a 6% mortality rate, now I had only flicked over and could have picked it up wrong, but if true is very concerning.

Yes that is correct. 6% in Italy

Yes, but most of that it seems is because their health service has collapsed. So at low levels you are probably at 1.5% mortality but when it goes out of control and you crash your health service, you get 6%. Moral of story, act before the thing gets out of control.