The Many Faces of US Politics...

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RedHand88

Why does cancel culture want to remove a monument which prominently features the president who fought to end slavery?

trileacman

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Quote from: RedHand88 on July 05, 2020, 09:16:58 AM
Why does cancel culture want to remove a monument which prominently features the president who fought to end slavery?

Maybe because he consistently promised to never end slavery.
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J70

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 05, 2020, 09:16:58 AM
Why does cancel culture want to remove a monument which prominently features the president who fought to end slavery?

Is the issue not that it was built on sacred land stolen from the Sioux? An issue that still has not been settled more than 150 years later.

J70

In case any liberal-leaning people are worried that his minders will finally get through to Trump and convince him to ease off on the divisive rhetoric and grievance in advance of the election as his numbers continue to sink... well they haven't got anywhere yet.

Bubba Wallace and the NASCAR noose issue have caught the Dear Leader's attention (must have been a piece on OAN or Fox or something)

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1280117571874951170

Gabriel_Hurl

He was angry at Fox yesterday -almost certainly it was OAN or Newsmax

J70

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 06, 2020, 03:48:56 PM
He was angry at Fox yesterday -almost certainly it was OAN or Newsmax

Over a poll, I'm guessing?

Their poll operations actually seem to be fairly serious and respectable.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

Click on 538 Grade to sort the pollsters by grade, and Fox News/Beacon/Shaw is near the top with an A- rating and more than 70% of races correctly called.

Eamonnca1

QuoteBiden His Time: Joe Now The Odds-On Favorite Over Donald Trump In Election Betting Markets

Posted By Chops on July 7, 2020

In late January, Joe Biden's presidential campaign was dead in the water. He had no momentum. No buzz. That all belonged to Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg.

Biden's campaign was even more dead in February. Fourth and fifth place finishes in Iowa and New Hampshire, respectively, will do that to you.

Then in March, South Carolina happened.

Today, Joe Biden is the overwhelming 2020 presidential election odds favorite.

Biden is 77 years old. We can't call him "kid." So maybe he's the "Comeback Grandpa?"

This kind of rise is historic. As we've written previously, no candidate has ever finished outside the top 2 in Iowa AND New Hampshire and gone on to win his or her party's nomination.

Not only is Biden winning his nomination, he appears on track to trounce President Donald Trump in the November general election.

JOE BIDEN 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION ODDS
Biden is now priced as the odds-on favorite on most sites. You can find him listed from -137 to -170.

Trump is now around +150. He has not been an underdog like this throughout the entire election lifecycle.

How did we get here?

This isn't complicated. Trump's disapproval marks are at all-time highs. Many believe that he has mishandled the COVID-19 crisis. The economic downturn that resulted because of COVID-19 has obviously not helped matters and more recently there was great racial tension in the US.

If you need a more basic and visual representation of how the tides have turned on Trump, look no further than the Drudge Report front page. Once very pro-Trump, the immensely popular conservative site is now a bulletin board of negative takes on The Donald.

The "elect-ability" argument has really proven to be true for Biden. He's viewed as a perfectly vanilla candidate. In an election cycle dominated by its partisanship, Biden is just inoffensive enough to appeal to voters who are burned out on acrimony.

CAN TRUMP TURN THE TIDE?
From a historical polling perspective, Biden could actually be a heavier favorite among oddsmakers.

We don't know how COVID-19 will yet impact party conventions — but we should expect the typical bounce to be more muted. For a candidate who elicits strong emotions like Trump, this doesn't help his dwindling re-election chances.

Ultimately, Trump's best hope now is if COVID-19 infection numbers reduce and the economy recovers. Otherwise, Biden's lead is becoming too much to overcome.

2020 US ELECTION ODDS (AS OF TUESDAY, JULY 7)




Candidatebet365 oddsBetway odds
Joe Biden (D)-170-152
Donald Trump (R)+150+130


Remember, betting markets only care about the final outcome. They're not crude polls. They take into account all the voter suppression, electoral college, and various shennanigans that Rethuglicans get up to to hold onto power.

five points

Biden's now afraid to debate Trump apparently. No surprise to anyone who has watched him struggle to deliver even a prepared script let alone speak off the cuff. His "lead" will crumble to dust once more people see him afraid of Trump.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: five points on July 08, 2020, 06:49:11 PM
Biden's now afraid to debate Trump apparently. No surprise to anyone who has watched him struggle to deliver even a prepared script let alone speak off the cuff. His "lead" will crumble to dust once more people see him afraid of Trump.

says who?

Gmac

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 08, 2020, 07:53:08 PM
Quote from: five points on July 08, 2020, 06:49:11 PM
Biden's now afraid to debate Trump apparently. No surprise to anyone who has watched him struggle to deliver even a prepared script let alone speak off the cuff. His "lead" will crumble to dust once more people see him afraid of Trump.

says who?
five points

whitey

Quote from: Gmac on July 08, 2020, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 08, 2020, 07:53:08 PM
Quote from: five points on July 08, 2020, 06:49:11 PM
Biden's now afraid to debate Trump apparently. No surprise to anyone who has watched him struggle to deliver even a prepared script let alone speak off the cuff. His "lead" will crumble to dust once more people see him afraid of Trump.

says who?
five points

The NY Times



Gabriel_Hurl

Yeah - I'm not seeing anything about him being afraid at all

Eamonnca1

Fox News watchers come out with the weirdest sh1t.