Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[Snapchap]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40214825.html?type=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Mainstream Unionism aren't what now? Sinn Fein are tied to this no matter how much proof exists or doesn't!

You are just proving my point. She said SF had questions to answer about who was at the funeral. Nowhere did she accuse SF of having organised the thing. Which has been my point all along.

No unionist politicians are arguing that SF organised it. Yet here yourself and FBnaS are, throwing the sort of mud that even unionism isn't throwing - and using the total lack of any evidence as "proof" of what you alledge. Catch yourselves on.

[screenexile]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40214825.html?type=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Mainstream Unionism aren't what now? Sinn Fein are tied to this no matter how much proof exists or doesn't!

You are just proving my point. She said SF had questions to answer about who was at the funeral. Nowhere did she accuse SF of having organised the thing. Which has been my point all along.

No unionist politicians are arguing that SF organised it. Yet here yourself and FBnaS are, throwing the sort of mud that even unionism isn't throwing - and using the total lack of any evidence as "proof" of what you alledge. Catch yourselves on.

OK your arguing about semantics and whether Sinn Fein "officially" organised it. I know they didn't but does that really matter with public opinion?

It's a republican funeral ... that flouted the rules... whether Sinn Fein "officially" organised it or not everybody knows nothing on that scale happens without Sinn Fein's say or involvement in some way. Talk about proof all you like but Sinn Fein are tied to it.

Just because there is no "proof" that Sinn Fein "organised" it that doesn't mean they aren't tied to it!! No matter how much you wish it weren't so.

The fact that they're even mentioned in the article above shows that!

[trueblue1234]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40214825.html?type=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Mainstream Unionism aren't what now? Sinn Fein are tied to this no matter how much proof exists or doesn't!

You are just proving my point. She said SF had questions to answer about who was at the funeral. Nowhere did she accuse SF of having organised the thing. Which has been my point all along.

No unionist politicians are arguing that SF organised it. Yet here yourself and FBnaS are, throwing the sort of mud that even unionism isn't throwing - and using the total lack of any evidence as "proof" of what you alledge. Catch yourselves on.

OK your arguing about semantics and whether Sinn Fein "officially" organised it. I know they didn't but does that really matter with public opinion?

It's a republican funeral ... that flouted the rules... whether Sinn Fein "officially" organised it or not everybody knows nothing on that scale happens without Sinn Fein's say or involvement in some way. Talk about proof all you like but Sinn Fein are tied to it.

Just because there is no "proof" that Sinn Fein "organised" it that doesn't mean they aren't tied to it!! No matter how much you wish it weren't so.

The fact that they're even mentioned in the article above shows that!

To be fair the ones that wanted to believe SF were involved officially are going to do that regardless of whether they were or weren't. There's nothing SF can do about that. Those are the sort of people who would never consider voting SF anyway. Which is fair enough. If people don't require proof then it's impossible to have rational discussions with them anyway.

[Angelo]

Oddly enough this forum seems to be a hotbed for Stoops which would seem to go against the demographics up north.

[Snapchap]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40214825.html?type=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Mainstream Unionism aren't what now? Sinn Fein are tied to this no matter how much proof exists or doesn't!

You are just proving my point. She said SF had questions to answer about who was at the funeral. Nowhere did she accuse SF of having organised the thing. Which has been my point all along.

No unionist politicians are arguing that SF organised it. Yet here yourself and FBnaS are, throwing the sort of mud that even unionism isn't throwing - and using the total lack of any evidence as "proof" of what you alledge. Catch yourselves on.

OK your arguing about semantics and whether Sinn Fein "officially" organised it. I know they didn't but does that really matter with public opinion?

It's a republican funeral ... that flouted the rules... whether Sinn Fein "officially" organised it or not everybody knows nothing on that scale happens without Sinn Fein's say or involvement in some way. Talk about proof all you like but Sinn Fein are tied to it.

Just because there is no "proof" that Sinn Fein "organised" it that doesn't mean they aren't tied to it!! No matter how much you wish it weren't so.

The fact that they're even mentioned in the article above shows that!

The only people trying to "tie" SF to it are their political opponents or cynical opportunists and hypocrites with an chip on their shoulder about SF. I've been to/involved in enough republican funerals in my lifetime to know that they don't have to involve SF. I imagine it must be frustrating trying to tie SF to this though, when there is literally NO evidence of any description to do so, beyond the possibility that two or three SF councillors (not even identified by anyone yet) were standing at the side of the road as the procession passed. Imagine - all those photos of the crowd and not a single SF rep to be seen in one of them.

At the end of the day, you have accepted that SF didn't organise the funeral and then we know that SF reps in their entirety (sorry, bar apparently a mystery two or three individuals) stayed away from it. They also held an online event to facilitate socially distance remembrance. Sometimes, you have to just put the agenda aside and accept that attempts to pin this on SF are just bogus.

[screenexile]

Bollocks... you can pretend with your shinnerbot mates that Sinn Fein didn't organise it so it's nothing to do with them all you like.

I work with plenty of Sinn Fein voters and people who have had to bury loved ones with nobody being able to attend the funeral and they're fuming that there's been another Republican funeral with crowds and all the paraphernalia. One rule for them and another for everyone else!!

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40214825.html?type=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Mainstream Unionism aren't what now? Sinn Fein are tied to this no matter how much proof exists or doesn't!

You are just proving my point. She said SF had questions to answer about who was at the funeral. Nowhere did she accuse SF of having organised the thing. Which has been my point all along.

No unionist politicians are arguing that SF organised it. Yet here yourself and FBnaS are, throwing the sort of mud that even unionism isn't throwing - and using the total lack of any evidence as "proof" of what you alledge. Catch yourselves on.

OK your arguing about semantics and whether Sinn Fein "officially" organised it. I know they didn't but does that really matter with public opinion?

It's a republican funeral ... that flouted the rules... whether Sinn Fein "officially" organised it or not everybody knows nothing on that scale happens without Sinn Fein's say or involvement in some way. Talk about proof all you like but Sinn Fein are tied to it.

Just because there is no "proof" that Sinn Fein "organised" it that doesn't mean they aren't tied to it!! No matter how much you wish it weren't so.

The fact that they're even mentioned in the article above shows that!

The only people trying to "tie" SF to it are their political opponents or cynical opportunists and hypocrites with an chip on their shoulder about SF. I've been to/involved in enough republican funerals in my lifetime to know that they don't have to involve SF. I imagine it must be frustrating trying to tie SF to this though, when there is literally NO evidence of any description to do so, beyond the possibility that two or three SF councillors (not even identified by anyone yet) were standing at the side of the road as the procession passed. Imagine - all those photos of the crowd and not a single SF rep to be seen in one of them.

At the end of the day, you have accepted that SF didn't organise the funeral and then we know that SF reps in their entirety (sorry, bar apparently a mystery two or three individuals) stayed away from it. They also held an online event to facilitate socially distance remembrance. Sometimes, you have to just put the agenda aside and accept that attempts to pin this on SF are just bogus.

I am going to have to explain this for you now because you cant clearly grasp it

You are saying SF didn't organise it, based on what? Gerry Kelly on BBC
I am saying they did, based on what? Nolan et al on the BBC amongst other evidence

Who is right, who is wrong?

We don't know so none of those BBC sources can be considered reliable, that has to be the conclusion.

So what are we left with? Tweets and photos  evidencing SF involvement and the fact that the dogs in the street here in Derry know they organised it. Martina defs attended the wake which is against the current regulations and we have to suspect based on the absolute hilarity and ridiculousness of her tweet that she wasn't in Stormont. Loud laughs everywhere with that pic she posted, everyone else got over the Glenshane no sweat.
Apparently Gerry Kelly seen her there, surely it would be have been better to take pic outside Stormont. Balloon.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Oddly enough this forum seems to be a hotbed for Stoops which would seem to go against the demographics up north.

Sad you will be missing out on your 18th this year with restrictions and all

[Snapchap]

Bollocks... you can pretend with your shinnerbot mates that Sinn Fein didn't organise it so it's nothing to do with them all you like.

You said yourself this morning that you accept they didn't organise it.

I work with plenty of Sinn Fein voters and people who have had to bury loved ones with nobody being able to attend the funeral and they're fuming that there's been another Republican funeral with crowds and all the paraphernalia. One rule for them and another for everyone else!!

Except that this was a family funeral, organised (by your own admission) by the family. The family are republicans. That doesn't mean SF are answerable for their every action. How can you not get that through your skull? Do you seriously believe anyone thinks your desperation to pin this on SF is motivated by anything other than a personal dislike of SF?

The facts are as follows:
- SF did not organise the funeral
- SF did not advertise/promote the funeral
- SF did not attend the funeral (outside of two unknown councillors who nobody can seem to actually identify)
- SF organised on online remembrance ceremony

So given the above, can you explain, specifically, what SF did wrong here?

[Angelo]

Bollocks... you can pretend with your shinnerbot mates that Sinn Fein didn't organise it so it's nothing to do with them all you like.

You said yourself this morning that you accept they didn't organise it.

I work with plenty of Sinn Fein voters and people who have had to bury loved ones with nobody being able to attend the funeral and they're fuming that there's been another Republican funeral with crowds and all the paraphernalia. One rule for them and another for everyone else!!

Except that this was a family funeral, organised (by your own admission) by the family. The family are republicans. That doesn't mean SF are answerable for their every action. How can you not get that through your skull? Do you seriously believe anyone thinks your desperation to pin this on SF is motivated by anything other than a personal dislike of SF?

The facts are as follows:
- SF did not organise the funeral
- SF did not advertise/promote the funeral
- SF did not attend the funeral (outside of two unknown councillors who nobody can seem to actually identify)
- SF organised on online remembrance ceremony

So given the above, can you explain, specifically, what SF did wrong here?

When agendas are at play, the truths and facts don't matter.

[Snapchap]

I am going to have to explain this for you now because you cant clearly grasp it

You are saying SF didn't organise it, based on what? Gerry Kelly on BBC
I am saying they did, based on what? Nolan et al on the BBC amongst other evidence

The BBC haven't said that SF organised it. More lies.

So what are we left with? Tweets and photos  evidencing SF involvement

In all these photos, can you single out ONE SINGLE elected SF representative? Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have stayed away from a funeral that they themselves allegedly organised?

and the fact that the dogs in the street here in Derry know they organised it

Saying "sure the dogs on the street know the craic", doesn't really cut it as evidence, does it? For a man who portrays himself as so in-the-know about goings on in Derry, you've already been caught out telling lies/inaccuracies about the funeral. So unless all these Derry dogs are telling you tall tales...

Martina defs attended the wake which is against the current regulations and we have to suspect based on the absolute hilarity and ridiculousness of her tweet that she wasn't in Stormont. Loud laughs everywhere with that pic she posted, everyone else got over the Glenshane no sweat.
Apparently Gerry Kelly seen her there, surely it would be have been better to take pic outside Stormont. Balloon.

So she definitely attended the wake? You claimed she definitely was at the funeral too because you read it on twitter (a few loyalist halfwits on twitter decided some brown haired woman in a face mask was her) and because the BBC reported she was there (you even called that your "check mate" argument but then ran of and hid when asked to post the link to where the BBC made such a claim). Forgive me for taking what you say is "definite" with a large mountain of salt.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I am going to have to explain this for you now because you cant clearly grasp it

You are saying SF didn't organise it, based on what? Gerry Kelly on BBC
I am saying they did, based on what? Nolan et al on the BBC amongst other evidence

The BBC haven't said that SF organised it. More lies.

So what are we left with? Tweets and photos  evidencing SF involvement

In all these photos, can you single out ONE SINGLE elected SF representative? Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have stayed away from a funeral that they themselves allegedly organised?

and the fact that the dogs in the street here in Derry know they organised it

Saying "sure the dogs on the street know the craic", doesn't really cut it as evidence, does it? For a man who portrays himself as so in-the-know about goings on in Derry, you've already been caught out telling lies/inaccuracies about the funeral. So unless all these Derry dogs are telling you tall tales...

Martina defs attended the wake which is against the current regulations and we have to suspect based on the absolute hilarity and ridiculousness of her tweet that she wasn't in Stormont. Loud laughs everywhere with that pic she posted, everyone else got over the Glenshane no sweat.
Apparently Gerry Kelly seen her there, surely it would be have been better to take pic outside Stormont. Balloon.

So she definitely attended the wake? You claimed she definitely was at the funeral too because you read it on twitter (a few loyalist halfwits on twitter decided some brown haired woman in a face mask was her) and because the BBC reported she was there (caled that your "check mate" but then ran of and hid when asked to post the link to where the BBC made such a claim). Forgive me for taking what you say is "definite" with a large mountain of salt.

You obviously aren't sharp enough to work out that my comment on Martina Anderson was to show you how weak Gerry Kellys evidence was. Hear Say communicated by BBC. Check Mate

[Snapchap]

I am going to have to explain this for you now because you cant clearly grasp it

You are saying SF didn't organise it, based on what? Gerry Kelly on BBC
I am saying they did, based on what? Nolan et al on the BBC amongst other evidence

The BBC haven't said that SF organised it. More lies.

So what are we left with? Tweets and photos  evidencing SF involvement

In all these photos, can you single out ONE SINGLE elected SF representative? Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have stayed away from a funeral that they themselves allegedly organised?

and the fact that the dogs in the street here in Derry know they organised it

Saying "sure the dogs on the street know the craic", doesn't really cut it as evidence, does it? For a man who portrays himself as so in-the-know about goings on in Derry, you've already been caught out telling lies/inaccuracies about the funeral. So unless all these Derry dogs are telling you tall tales...

Martina defs attended the wake which is against the current regulations and we have to suspect based on the absolute hilarity and ridiculousness of her tweet that she wasn't in Stormont. Loud laughs everywhere with that pic she posted, everyone else got over the Glenshane no sweat.
Apparently Gerry Kelly seen her there, surely it would be have been better to take pic outside Stormont. Balloon.

So she definitely attended the wake? You claimed she definitely was at the funeral too because you read it on twitter (a few loyalist halfwits on twitter decided some brown haired woman in a face mask was her) and because the BBC reported she was there (caled that your "check mate" but then ran of and hid when asked to post the link to where the BBC made such a claim). Forgive me for taking what you say is "definite" with a large mountain of salt.

You obviously aren't sharp enough to work out that my comment on Martina Anderson was to show you how weak Gerry Kellys evidence was. Hear Say communicated by BBC. Check Mate

Your comment about Martina Anderson was a three word allegation:

"She was there".

When I said "prove it", you replied:

"BBC said so. Check mate"

So your comments about Martina Anderson were actually a specific (and false) claim which you "backed up" by referencing a non-existent BBC report.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I am going to have to explain this for you now because you cant clearly grasp it

You are saying SF didn't organise it, based on what? Gerry Kelly on BBC
I am saying they did, based on what? Nolan et al on the BBC amongst other evidence

The BBC haven't said that SF organised it. More lies.

So what are we left with? Tweets and photos  evidencing SF involvement

In all these photos, can you single out ONE SINGLE elected SF representative? Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have stayed away from a funeral that they themselves allegedly organised?

and the fact that the dogs in the street here in Derry know they organised it

Saying "sure the dogs on the street know the craic", doesn't really cut it as evidence, does it? For a man who portrays himself as so in-the-know about goings on in Derry, you've already been caught out telling lies/inaccuracies about the funeral. So unless all these Derry dogs are telling you tall tales...

Martina defs attended the wake which is against the current regulations and we have to suspect based on the absolute hilarity and ridiculousness of her tweet that she wasn't in Stormont. Loud laughs everywhere with that pic she posted, everyone else got over the Glenshane no sweat.
Apparently Gerry Kelly seen her there, surely it would be have been better to take pic outside Stormont. Balloon.

So she definitely attended the wake? You claimed she definitely was at the funeral too because you read it on twitter (a few loyalist halfwits on twitter decided some brown haired woman in a face mask was her) and because the BBC reported she was there (caled that your "check mate" but then ran of and hid when asked to post the link to where the BBC made such a claim). Forgive me for taking what you say is "definite" with a large mountain of salt.

You obviously aren't sharp enough to work out that my comment on Martina Anderson was to show you how weak Gerry Kellys evidence was. Hear Say communicated by BBC. Check Mate

Your comment about Martina Anderson was a three word allegation:

"She was there".

When I said "prove it", you replied:

"BBC said so. Check mate"

So your comments about Martina Anderson were actually a specific (and false) claim which you "backed up" by referencing a non-existent BBC report.

OMG . Duh

[Snapchap]

I am going to have to explain this for you now because you cant clearly grasp it

You are saying SF didn't organise it, based on what? Gerry Kelly on BBC
I am saying they did, based on what? Nolan et al on the BBC amongst other evidence

The BBC haven't said that SF organised it. More lies.

So what are we left with? Tweets and photos  evidencing SF involvement

In all these photos, can you single out ONE SINGLE elected SF representative? Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have stayed away from a funeral that they themselves allegedly organised?

and the fact that the dogs in the street here in Derry know they organised it

Saying "sure the dogs on the street know the craic", doesn't really cut it as evidence, does it? For a man who portrays himself as so in-the-know about goings on in Derry, you've already been caught out telling lies/inaccuracies about the funeral. So unless all these Derry dogs are telling you tall tales...

Martina defs attended the wake which is against the current regulations and we have to suspect based on the absolute hilarity and ridiculousness of her tweet that she wasn't in Stormont. Loud laughs everywhere with that pic she posted, everyone else got over the Glenshane no sweat.
Apparently Gerry Kelly seen her there, surely it would be have been better to take pic outside Stormont. Balloon.

So she definitely attended the wake? You claimed she definitely was at the funeral too because you read it on twitter (a few loyalist halfwits on twitter decided some brown haired woman in a face mask was her) and because the BBC reported she was there (caled that your "check mate" but then ran of and hid when asked to post the link to where the BBC made such a claim). Forgive me for taking what you say is "definite" with a large mountain of salt.

You obviously aren't sharp enough to work out that my comment on Martina Anderson was to show you how weak Gerry Kellys evidence was. Hear Say communicated by BBC. Check Mate

Your comment about Martina Anderson was a three word allegation:

"She was there".

When I said "prove it", you replied:

"BBC said so. Check mate"

So your comments about Martina Anderson were actually a specific (and false) claim which you "backed up" by referencing a non-existent BBC report.

OMG . Duh

I shouldn't have called you a clown yesterday. It was disrespectful to actual clowns and I apologise to them all.