Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[Rossfan]

Whatever about Sid, Maryloo seems to have had a problem with Stanley comparing Kilmichael to Narrow Water.

[Chief]

Whatever about Sid, Maryloo seems to have had a problem with Stanley comparing Kilmichael to Narrow Water.

I'm guessing she knows it wasn't tactically smart - whatever about the rights and wrongs of it.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Don't give this nonsense oxygen. SF use this as a tactic to exonerate themselves from their actions. By debating and engaging you're falling into their trap. It now becomes something that is "up for debate" or "that their are different, valid viewpoints" None of that is true. Best not to get involved.

Has Colum stopped Brexit yet?

Honestly , do you not actually see that comments like that make you appear like the boy down the back of the p7 class .

To be fair Colum pledged to work towards stopping brexit , it was an honourable pledge which he has a very large mandate in Derry for..
Would you suggest that he should have stood at the border in the pishing rain banging bin lids with Martina Anderson. Sure did she not say she was going to stop it from Brussels?

[Angelo]

Whatever about Sid, Maryloo seems to have had a problem with Stanley comparing Kilmichael to Narrow Water.

Well that's just inaccurate.

She might have criticised him for the tone of the tweet but it certainly had little to do with comparing Warrenpoint to Kilmichael.

I don't see how anyone can really justify one without justifying the other or condemn out without justifying the other as to do so is hypocritical in the extreme.

[Rossfan]

Uachtarán Shinn Féin must be a hypocrite so

[Itchy]

As expected Sinn Fein rise another few points in the polls, meanwhile FF and FG drop to record lows,  much lower than previous all time lows, so low the trapdoor will have to be opened soon. Perhaps Varadkar should have claimed credit for his humble part in imventing the covid vaccine Instead of focussing on drunken Shinner tweets buried in the depths of a twitter cesspit.

FF and FG and their little bitches in the Irish Media have done Trojan work in improving Sinn Feins popularity. At last people are starting to see their little games and the media bias around them for what it is. Also interesting to see the 1 policy party Aontu getting 0% in the latest poll, given that their one agenda topic is now old news there isnt much point in them existing really - other than to give a certain ex SF a job.

It's quite strange the amount of airtime Peadar Toibín and Jim Allister etc. get in the media.  They get so much time, not even relative to other parties in terms of their votes etc.

Ireland has changed, and an alledgely right wing party like Aontú are finding this out. By the way, is Rénua still going with L. Creighton or have they folded?

You really are a very poorly read and researched man. God bless and save us. Right wing lol. You know what you should do? Gag them, censor them, peadar is elected you know. Your like a wee Brit .

Anybody?

Peadair was angling for the Holy Joe vote but he has found out that there isnt many holy joes left and the ones that are all deeply intertwined in the civil war politics of FF & FG. As they say it is a dwindling market. Its a shame as he is well spoken and thats probably what gets him on the telly so much, that and the fact RTE would like to give SF a kick by giving one of the ex's 10 time more exposure on TV now that he left the party. Unfortunately for RTE and their buddies its not working.

[sid waddell]

Attempt Five:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign", Sid?

Again reaching for the whataboutery because you can't defend your beloved PIRA

Pathetic

Is it any wonder Shinners are laughed at

Adopting the tactics of the US Republican party wholesale

Except it's nothing to do with whataboutery. It's an attempt to get you to demonstrate consistency in your application of logic. Something I'd have thought you'd be only to eager to do. But alas, I'm having to ask this for a sixth time:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign"?

It's classic whataboutery

Whataboutery is used as a deflection technique to bring up something irrelevant when somebody can't or refuses to debate something honestly, as has been the case with you and other Shinners throughout this thread

It's the Boris Johnson "dead cat" technique

You can keep asking a totally irrelevant question about a different conflict as many times as you like

But it has as much relevance to this debate as the price of fish

What is the price of a piece of cod these days?

You should know - you've sold about a hundred of them on this thread

It is 100% relevant.

As the record shows, this debate started because some shinner compared the PIRA bombing near Warrenpoint to the Old IRA ambush at Kilmichael.

You were outraged.

So your opinions on the Old IRA when involving yourself in this discussion are totally 100% relevant.

Why are you desperately flailing around trying to invent reasons not to answer a simple question?

Woah, look you said "desperately flailing" as if you think it's a point

It isn't

Yet more whataboutery

Again, it is unfortunate for you that this whole debate has been recorded.

It's not the pub where you can deny saying something.

The whole debate centres around a comparison of the PIRA to the Old IRA.

You've commented on the Old IRA campaign many times already in the course of this debate.

It's there, for all to see

But now, you try to pretend that the Old IRA is not relevant to the discussion

And it is you who would accuse others of behaving like Boris or Trump

Why is it unfortunate for me?

I've made a fool of you and the other circle jerking murder fetishists like Angelo, Snapachap and RedHand88, which has been very enjoyable!

Sinn Fein's whole online strategy centres around violent pub style talk - we saw yet another example of it with the circle jerking online group which made the news

And it's the sort of pub talk where they don't have the guts to say something to somebody's face, the sort of pub talk where neanderthals joke about assaulting and killing people

Sinn Fein's whole political strategy is to whitewash murder by whataboutery

And that's exactly what you've been doing here the whole time

Which is unfortunate

The whole bloody strategy, and I use the word bloody intentionally, is unfortunate

If you want to act like Trump, own it, don't shirk it

Because that's exactly what you've been doing

Sinn Fein is the Irish Trump party

Numerous insults

Zero substance

Undertones of aggression

Dollop of fake victimhood

Endless projection

This is exactly your level.


Just answer the question.


The effort that you're put willing to put into not answering it is very telling

You've offered zero substance on this thread

Whataboutery because you can't defend the civilian murders that you came on here to defend is not substance

Norman Tebbit's wife Margaret died yesterday, I've little time for her husband but that innocent woman spent the last 36 years of her life paralysed because of the actions of the PIRA

Have Sinn Fein made any comment?

Maybe their cheerleaders here might like to?

[Chief]

Uachtarán Shinn Féin must be a hypocrite so

I think this thread has proved all major political party leaders are hypocrites - it's just whatever flavour of hypocrisy you're into that determines your vote.

[sid waddell]

Uachtarán Shinn Féin must be a hypocrite so

I think this thread has proved all major political party leaders are hypocrites - it's just whatever flavour of hypocrisy you're into that determines your vote.

Sinn Fein's hypocrisy is far and away worse than any other Irish political party, even the DUP

At least everybody knows where they stand with the DUP

[Angelo]

Uachtarán Shinn Féin must be a hypocrite so

I think this thread has proved all major political party leaders are hypocrites - it's just whatever flavour of hypocrisy you're into that determines your vote.

Sinn Fein's hypocrisy is far and away worse than any other Irish political party, even the DUP

At least everybody knows where they stand with the DUP

The irony of you speaking definitively on hypocrites. All you have done on this thread is contradict yourself.

[sid waddell]

SF-bashers' tears never tasted so good 

A line straight from the Trump playbook

Shinner trolls don't even hide their adoption of Trump tactics

[sid waddell]

As expected Sinn Fein rise another few points in the polls, meanwhile FF and FG drop to record lows,  much lower than previous all time lows, so low the trapdoor will have to be opened soon. Perhaps Varadkar should have claimed credit for his humble part in imventing the covid vaccine Instead of focussing on drunken Shinner tweets buried in the depths of a twitter cesspit.

FF and FG and their little bitches in the Irish Media have done Trojan work in improving Sinn Feins popularity. At last people are starting to see their little games and the media bias around them for what it is. Also interesting to see the 1 policy party Aontu getting 0% in the latest poll, given that their one agenda topic is now old news there isnt much point in them existing really - other than to give a certain ex SF a job.

"Bitches", wow

Ssssssshhhhh, don't mention the truth

[sid waddell]

You would have to suspect it's systemic in SF at this stage with all the stories that have emerged last few years. A senior shinner told me in private few years back that M Cahill was a dirty s@#t. There is a nastiness there . Experts at character assassination and spreading bile

You would have to imagine that you are unable to be objective and consistent in your viewpoint.

Nice little unsubstantiated, anonymous anecdote there to suit your agenda.

Maybe you should name your senior SF source?

It would betray a friendship. I didn't just stop being friendly with some of these people because I don't vote them anymore, I did challenge him in language that time Look up m Cahill name search on Twitter and see historical abuse .

There's nothing like an anonymous, unsubstantiated anecdote to support a bias.

Have you not already betrayed a friendship by telling the story?

No

Looks like it to me.

I'm pretty sure he's not on GAA board but I'm also pretty sure if i name him he will soon hear. It's true , be pretty odd for me to sit on a sunday morning making up little dittos about Maria Cahill,I know that's what you would like to think is going on..

It might odd but it would also be right in line with your agenda too.

If you think anonymous and unsubstantiated anecdotes help, they certainly do not. You have a clear agenda at play to bash SF at every opportunity so you're not really the most honest broker.

Shinners hate the truth

Exhibit A

[Franko]

Attempt Five:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign", Sid?

Again reaching for the whataboutery because you can't defend your beloved PIRA

Pathetic

Is it any wonder Shinners are laughed at

Adopting the tactics of the US Republican party wholesale

Except it's nothing to do with whataboutery. It's an attempt to get you to demonstrate consistency in your application of logic. Something I'd have thought you'd be only to eager to do. But alas, I'm having to ask this for a sixth time:

Would you term the Old IRA campaign as a "civilian/sectarian murder campaign"?

It's classic whataboutery

Whataboutery is used as a deflection technique to bring up something irrelevant when somebody can't or refuses to debate something honestly, as has been the case with you and other Shinners throughout this thread

It's the Boris Johnson "dead cat" technique

You can keep asking a totally irrelevant question about a different conflict as many times as you like

But it has as much relevance to this debate as the price of fish

What is the price of a piece of cod these days?

You should know - you've sold about a hundred of them on this thread

It is 100% relevant.

As the record shows, this debate started because some shinner compared the PIRA bombing near Warrenpoint to the Old IRA ambush at Kilmichael.

You were outraged.

So your opinions on the Old IRA when involving yourself in this discussion are totally 100% relevant.

Why are you desperately flailing around trying to invent reasons not to answer a simple question?

Woah, look you said "desperately flailing" as if you think it's a point

It isn't

Yet more whataboutery

Again, it is unfortunate for you that this whole debate has been recorded.

It's not the pub where you can deny saying something.

The whole debate centres around a comparison of the PIRA to the Old IRA.

You've commented on the Old IRA campaign many times already in the course of this debate.

It's there, for all to see

But now, you try to pretend that the Old IRA is not relevant to the discussion

And it is you who would accuse others of behaving like Boris or Trump

Why is it unfortunate for me?

I've made a fool of you and the other circle jerking murder fetishists like Angelo, Snapachap and RedHand88, which has been very enjoyable!

Sinn Fein's whole online strategy centres around violent pub style talk - we saw yet another example of it with the circle jerking online group which made the news

And it's the sort of pub talk where they don't have the guts to say something to somebody's face, the sort of pub talk where neanderthals joke about assaulting and killing people

Sinn Fein's whole political strategy is to whitewash murder by whataboutery

And that's exactly what you've been doing here the whole time

Which is unfortunate

The whole bloody strategy, and I use the word bloody intentionally, is unfortunate

If you want to act like Trump, own it, don't shirk it

Because that's exactly what you've been doing

Sinn Fein is the Irish Trump party

Numerous insults

Zero substance

Undertones of aggression

Dollop of fake victimhood

Endless projection

This is exactly your level.


Just answer the question.


The effort that you're put willing to put into not answering it is very telling

You've offered zero substance on this thread

Whataboutery because you can't defend the civilian murders that you came on here to defend is not substance

Norman Tebbit's wife Margaret died yesterday, I've little time for her husband but that innocent woman spent the last 36 years of her life paralysed because of the actions of the PIRA

Have Sinn Fein made any comment?

Maybe their cheerleaders here might like to?

More bluster

But still no answers

Credibility = Zero

[sid waddell]

Zzzzzzzzzz

And still none of the Shinnerbots have commented on Margaret Tebbit's death