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Quote from: Donagh on November 19, 2009, 01:20:40 PMI did not threaten O'Neill, I respectfully asked him to clarify two comments he muttered out of the corner of his mouth on two different threads – coincidently with remarks very similar to those you have been making. Given his history on here I believe he could be trusted to discuss something rationally though any respect I had for him has been seriously diminished.

Quote from: Donagh on November 19, 2009, 01:02:50 AMHowever, you're acting there like you have some information on me ONeill. If you want to be taken seriously, spit it out into the open, even better how about relaying it back to my face? Otherwise take your adolescent behaviour back to your classroom where it may be appreciated.

Quote from: ziggysego on November 30, 2009, 12:05:34 PM
Ireland ask for extra 2010 World Cup place

Fifa's Sepp Blatter has revealed the Ireland have requested a spot in the 2010 World Cup finals as an extra team after their play-off defeat.

Ireland lost to an extra-time goal against France when Thierry Henry handled the ball during the build-up.

"I will bring it to the attention of the Executive Committee," said Blatter.

The president of football's world governing body added that goal-line technology and extra referees would be considered for the South Africa finals.

Sourced BBCi: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8386207.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8386207.stm)

QuoteBad noises about Trap anyway. He's been linked with at least a couple of jobs a week for the last while. Can't be all smoke and no fire.

Quote from: The Worker on February 15, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
Nice top! when is it released?

Is it possible to get it without the 'eircon' logo?

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on February 15, 2010, 06:30:45 PM

Quote from: The Worker on February 15, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
Nice top! when is it released?

Is it possible to get it without the 'eircon' logo?

11th March. They will be wearing it for the Brazil game.

I'm pretty sure none of them will have 'eircon' on it, but the replica ones will have 'Eircom' on them  ;)

Ireland are the only country to have a sponsor on their replica jersey.

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on March 02, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Some crowd at the Emirates!

Quote from: The Worker on March 02, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
Duff is unreal at winning free kicks!

Quote from: rosnarun on March 02, 2010, 09:29:55 PM

Quote from: The Worker on March 02, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
Duff is unreal at winning free kicks!

or as we say about foreigners - a cheating b**tard

Quote from: lurganblue on March 02, 2010, 09:54:18 PM
McShane is stinkin. Everything he touches turns to shite

Quote from: orangeman on March 02, 2010, 09:48:26 PM
How has Robbie stayed on the pitch ???

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 02, 2010, 10:00:19 PM

Quote from: orangeman on March 02, 2010, 09:48:26 PM
How has Robbie stayed on the pitch ???

He is terribly rubbish. Fair play to young Best for having a go and not passing to him for him to fcuk it up at the end. Cannot suffer the hoor.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 02, 2010, 10:11:00 PM
Don't think Keane is fully fit to be honest. He didn't train at all last week before the Rangers game but played in that and didn't look right. Played tonight after it was first thought he wouldn't and probably just because it's Brazil and he was the same. Would probably have been better off pulling out and letting someone else have a go.

Quote from: thewobbler on March 02, 2010, 10:07:08 PM
Keane was utter rubbish tonight Seanie, but seeing as he is (by a tremendous distance) the most prolific and most exciting forward that Ireland as ever produced, you must have some high standards not to be able to suffer him.

Quote from: magickingdom on May 22, 2010, 03:43:01 PM
this sounds scary, freak injury to shane duffy. thank God hes ok


http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2010/0522/1224270918821.html

Quote from: red hander on May 24, 2010, 09:22:11 PM
Thank God there was an ambulance at the venue ... the medical staff did a magnificent job saving the lad's life

Quote from: Celt_Man on May 25, 2010, 12:42:04 PM
Good to hear that young Duffy is doing better... fecking scary stuff though - sure how many times would you see a collision on a football, half a dozen times every game I'd reckon

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 25, 2010, 09:41:03 PM
Not the worst game ever, always nice to win

Quote from: Main Street on May 26, 2010, 12:31:40 PM
I suppose considering Sheridan is from Cavan, he did not disgrace himself.  At the time he came on, Ireland were holding on to a lead, not chasing the game. He got on the ball a few times, won a good corner, got his head to the long ball a few times. Hard to see from tv coverage how his movement was, but from what I could see he has a lot of progress to make before he would make the squad. Shane Long does look a better player than him.

Good energetic first half from something close to our best team.
Maybe it is just the other teams know we are managed by the legend that is Trap so they assume we must be well organised ::)
CM was just about functional with Andrews pushing forward. Whelan fell asleep for the Paraguay goal but he hit a lovely pass for Duff to run onto, a real goal scoring chance.
A new kid called Green came on as a sub and did well (a Trap type CM), good enough to get another run out against Algeria.

Quote from: Billys Boots on May 26, 2010, 02:53:18 PM

Decent crowd for a meaningless friendly.

Quote from: Billys Boots on May 26, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
McShane is way our of his depth at this level - he was scarily bad last night.  I did an experiment and just watched him for ten quiet minutes in the second half - he is clueless entirely.  Paraguay would never have scored if he hadn't handed the chance on a plate with a ridiculous lunge.

QuoteSheridan was alright; he's a bit slow with the ball at his feet.  Long looks like he could be a handful as he develops.

Quote from: Hound on May 26, 2010, 04:41:03 PM

Quote from: Billys Boots on May 26, 2010, 02:53:18 PM

Decent crowd for a meaningless friendly.

Block bookers were forced to buy tickets or else lose their entitlement to tickets in the new stadium.
A friend of mine bought two that way and literally couldnt give them away.

Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2010, 04:11:10 PM
Not worth its own thread.
France awarded the Euros in 2016.

Something suspicious looking about this, but I can't put my finger on it

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47946000/jpg/_47946580_platini466.jpg)

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 28, 2010, 08:46:18 PM
Algeria are brutal, England should beat them easily enough.
Good goal from Greene, got a nice bang on the head for himself too.
Didn't realise there was so many Algerians in Ireland there must be a thousand or more behind the goal, I'm presuming of course they didn't actually fly over from Algeria for the game!

Quote from: bingobus on May 25, 2010, 02:21:26 PM
Good to see young Duffy will be ok.

Sunday night we had a Junior game and I'd be over the team. Brother playing midfield and right at end of game he takes an almighty shoulder charge in the back from a lad trying to drive him over the line. He's struggling for air but goes back out to finish game. Back in the dressing room and he's in a heap in the corner and struggling to breath. I get him in car and drive to the DOC-on-call service in the town, him near passing out on car, get him in and the Doc is straight onto the ambulance to come.

All I could think off is the Duffy fella from Friday. Was scary stuff.

He actually punctured his lung and they put a tube in his side on Sunday and he's still in hospital but shows how easy these things happen.

Quote from: Denn Forever on May 28, 2010, 11:10:33 PM
The Dad of the seperated twins was a special guest at tonights game.

Did anyone from team England come over to lookat Algeria?  I wonder would it be worth a punt that the England Algeria game will be a draw?

Quote from: Main Street on May 29, 2010, 02:27:29 PM
Algeria had half their team out there and will likely be a different proposition in the Finals.
Though it is no wonder that they have had problems with receiving 2 and 3 red cards in important competitive games.

It was an easy enough win. Whelan and Lawrence looked exhausted but kept plugging away. St Ledger with each game looks every bit a good centre half. O'Dea  took his chance ok. He is still quite raw but if he keeps plugging away he will make a good enough CH.
Green impressed again, he just has that rare football intelligence to fit in to an international team as if he had been playing for years with them. Surely he will replace Miller in the squad.
We have a team who will be pushing hard to top their Euro qual group. There will be no talk of  'finishing runners up will be an achievement'.

QuoteIs James McCarthy injured or does Trapp not rate him?

Quote from: stiffler on July 27, 2010, 05:29:44 PM
Trapattoni names squad for Argentina
Tuesday, 27 July 2010 17:14

Republic of Ireland manager, Giovanni Trapattoni, has named a near full strength squad to face Argentina in the first international game in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August.

Goalkeeper Shay Given is named in the squad, following his recovery from a dislocated shoulder, while the likes of Damien Duff, Richard Dunne, Robbie Keane and Keith Doyle are all included.

The squad also features eleven players who took part in the summer training camp in May with Cillian Sheridan joining the up with Trapattoni's men after the Under 21 game against Estonia on 10 August.

Giovanni Trapattoni said: 'It will be a special occasion for everyone to be involved in the first ever game in Aviva stadium and Argentina will be a test for our players.

'The game comes at a crucial time in our preparation for the European Championship qualifying campaign and we must use it to strengthen our squad for the opening qualifiers against Armenia and Andorra in September.'

Republic of Ireland squad to play Argentina in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August: Shay Given, Keiren Westwood, Joe Murphy, John O'Shea, Richard Dunne, Sean St Ledger, Greg Cunningham, Kevin Foley, Marc Wilson, Stephen Kelly, Paul McShane, Darren O'Dea, Kevin Kilbane, Keith Andrews, Glenn Whelan, Darron Gibson, Paul Green, Liam Lawrence, Aiden McGeady, Ande Keogh, Damien Duff, Keith Fahey, Keith Treacy, Cillian Sheridan, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Caleb Folan, Shane Long



Good to see Wilson named in the squad. Would be a great occasion to make his debut.

Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 28, 2010, 08:16:15 PM

Quote from: stiffler on July 27, 2010, 05:29:44 PM
Trapattoni names squad for Argentina
Tuesday, 27 July 2010 17:14

Republic of Ireland manager, Giovanni Trapattoni, has named a near full strength squad to face Argentina in the first international game in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August.

Goalkeeper Shay Given is named in the squad, following his recovery from a dislocated shoulder, while the likes of Damien Duff, Richard Dunne, Robbie Keane and Keith Doyle are all included.

The squad also features eleven players who took part in the summer training camp in May with Cillian Sheridan joining the up with Trapattoni's men after the Under 21 game against Estonia on 10 August.

Giovanni Trapattoni said: 'It will be a special occasion for everyone to be involved in the first ever game in Aviva stadium and Argentina will be a test for our players.

'The game comes at a crucial time in our preparation for the European Championship qualifying campaign and we must use it to strengthen our squad for the opening qualifiers against Armenia and Andorra in September.'

Republic of Ireland squad to play Argentina in the Aviva Stadium on 11 August: Shay Given, Keiren Westwood, Joe Murphy, John O'Shea, Richard Dunne, Sean St Ledger, Greg Cunningham, Kevin Foley, Marc Wilson, Stephen Kelly, Paul McShane, Darren O'Dea, Kevin Kilbane, Keith Andrews, Glenn Whelan, Darron Gibson, Paul Green, Liam Lawrence, Aiden McGeady, Ande Keogh, Damien Duff, Keith Fahey, Keith Treacy, Cillian Sheridan, Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Caleb Folan, Shane Long



Good to see Wilson named in the squad. Would be a great occasion to make his debut.

Just got my ticket. North stand block 135 row c...Right behind the nets in the smaller stand

You going?

Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 28, 2010, 09:43:51 PM
Slatterys in Beggards bush is very good. I think we are planning to go in and sample the Aviva pints, they have been going on about it for a while

Quoteanyone have a spare ticket for wednesday s game agin the argies ??

QuoteBringing the young fella into the game tonight. Presume the new stadium will allow you to have a jar beforehand in their trendy new bars???

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

Quote from: Main Street on August 11, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
???
Where is the problem here, apart from an ability to invent one? ::)
Argies is a good abbreviation.
No different than the use of Aussies or Brits.

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PMIt's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war.

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 04:44:58 PM

Quote from: Main Street on August 11, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
???
Where is the problem here, apart from an ability to invent one? ::)
Argies is a good abbreviation.
No different than the use of Aussies or Brits.

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PMIt's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war.

I could be wrong. Can anybody help - especially people who were around before 1982?

QuoteLast minute job here, anyone know where/how I'd get a ticket for tonight's match ? Ticketmaster aren't selling now so close to game time. Any help greatly appreciated.
Fearsiul

Quote from: Billys Boots on August 11, 2010, 05:03:37 PM

QuoteLast minute job here, anyone know where/how I'd get a ticket for tonight's match ? Ticketmaster aren't selling now so close to game time. Any help greatly appreciated.
Fearsiul

I heard that there were tickets on sale in the Umbro shop on Westmoreland St. and at the ground.

Quote from: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 07:54:23 PM
More like, "Hey everybody i had a baby with this one"

(http://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/claudine-palmer-hot.jpg)

Quote from: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 08:09:50 PM
If you are in Aviva now.. then what was that loud crashing noise? sounded like someone broke one of the glass panels

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

Quote from: Boycey on August 11, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
If the two of ye are at the match get off your phones and watch the match for Christ sake

Quote from: ross4life on August 11, 2010, 08:31:36 PM

Quote from: Boycey on August 11, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
If the two of ye are at the match get off your phones and watch the match for Christ sake

If they were on there phones they would have a mobile symbol beside the message, so there either talking BS or on the laptops

Quote from: ziggysego on August 11, 2010, 08:30:36 PM
What channel is it on?

Quote from: Boycey on August 11, 2010, 09:19:02 PM

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2010, 09:01:56 PM
Is it not TENTERhooks?


You have been Hardied.

Noted..

QuoteWhat's the meaning and origin of on tenterhooks?

It's been so long since anyone has seen either a tenter, or the hooks on one, that the word and the idea behind it are now quite mysterious, so much so that it sometimes appears as on tenderhooks, which sounds as though it ought to make more sense. But at one time, the phrase on tenterhooks would have evoked an image that was immediately understandable.

It comes from one of the processes of making woollen cloth. After it had been woven, the cloth still contained oil from the fleece, mixed with dirt. It was cleaned in a fulling mill, but then it had to be dried carefully or it would shrink and crease. So the lengths of wet cloth were stretched on wooden frames, and left out in the open for some time. This allowed them to dry and straightened their weave. These frames were the tenters, and the tenter hooks were the metal hooks used to fix the cloth to the frame. At one time, it would have been common in manufacturing areas to see fields full of these frames (older English maps sometimes marked an area as a tenter-field). So it was not a huge leap of the imagination to think of somebody on tenterhooks as being in an state of anxious suspense, stretched like the cloth on the tenter. The tenters have gone, but the meaning has survived.

Tenter comes from the Latin tendere, to stretch, via a French intermediate. The word has been in the language since the fourteenth century, and on tenters soon after became a phrase meaning painful anxiety. The exact phrase on tenterhooks seems first to have been used by Tobias Smollett in Roderick Random in 1748.

They say you learn something new every day

Quote from: Capt Pat on August 11, 2010, 09:05:48 PM
I am at the match and using my phone, I swear. If it ever goes to court I have my own footage of the game on the phone to prove it. I live around the corner and came up at the last minute to get a free ticket. The game is just a freindly but it is good to say you were at the first soccer international in the new Landsdowne Aviva stadium.

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on August 11, 2010, 10:03:45 PM

Quote from: Capt Pat on August 11, 2010, 09:05:48 PM
I am at the match and using my phone, I swear. If it ever goes to court I have my own footage of the game on the phone to prove it. I live around the corner and came up at the last minute to get a free ticket. The game is just a freindly but it is good to say you were at the first soccer international in the new Landsdowne Aviva stadium.

Don't mind what the armchair fans say Capt Pat!
If I didn't have a youngfella with me I could have went on the batter with you after the game

Quote from: rosnarun on August 11, 2010, 08:28:12 PM

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:01:41 AM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 09:19:47 AM

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:01:41 AM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

Agreed I don't think Given knew this...which is shocking.  After the World Cup I was close to giving up on soccer, this and the hype in England over the "retirement" of Beckham has pushed me closer to the edge

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:01:41 AM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

Quote from: johnneycool on August 12, 2010, 09:41:02 AM
What's the reasoning for the open end in the Aviva stadium?

Looks a bit silly but I'm sure there's some logical explaination I'm unaware of.

Quote from: Main Street on August 12, 2010, 09:51:37 AM

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:01:41 AM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

You cant be offside if you receive the ball directly from a goalkick.

BUT THE BALL WAS PASSED (by the receiver) TO THE GOALSCORER WHO WAS IN AN OFFSIDE POSITION.

Quote from: Main Street on August 12, 2010, 09:51:37 AM

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:01:41 AM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

You cant be offside if you receive the ball directly from a goalkick.

BUT THE BALL WAS PASSED (by the receiver) TO THE GOALSCORER WHO WAS IN AN OFFSIDE POSITION.

QuoteWho does Keith Treacy play for?

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:01:41 AM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:44:15 AM

Quote from: rosnarun on August 11, 2010, 08:28:12 PM

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Quote from: Main Street on August 11, 2010, 10:18:42 PM
BTW  the use of the the term "Argie" is no more derogative than 'Aussie'.  Doesn't matter when the term was made popular or by who. It has entered into common enough usage and can be used without disrespect just like any other abbreviation.

QuoteI wouldn't start McShane personally, but he played ok last night and it looks like there is absolutely no one else challenging for the right back spot).

QuoteSeamus Coleman would have been worth a look last night.

Quote from: GBXII on August 12, 2010, 01:35:02 PM

QuoteSeamus Coleman would have been worth a look last night.

Actually, yeah thats a good point, totally forgot about him. The management seem seriously conservative when it comes to trying out new players, especially in problem positions like left and right back. Coleman definitely would have been worth a look though.

Quote from: GBXII on August 12, 2010, 01:35:02 PM

QuoteSeamus Coleman would have been worth a look last night.

Actually, yeah thats a good point, totally forgot about him. The management seem seriously conservative when it comes to trying out new players, especially in problem positions like left and right back. Coleman definitely would have been worth a look though.

Quote from: Hardy on August 12, 2010, 12:46:41 PM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:44:15 AM

Quote from: rosnarun on August 11, 2010, 08:28:12 PM

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 10:08:02 AM

Quote from: Main Street on August 12, 2010, 09:51:37 AM

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2010, 09:01:41 AM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Can't believe people didn't know you can't be offside from a goal kick. :o  Higuain wasn't offside but Di Maria was.

I didn't know that to be honest. I knew you couldn't be offside from a throw in. I bet Shay Given didn't know that either. He went balubas and was pointing at Higuain

You cant be offside if you receive the ball directly from a goalkick.

BUT THE BALL WAS PASSED (by the receiver) TO THE GOALSCORER WHO WAS IN AN OFFSIDE POSITION.

Yes we know that Main Street.

But Shay Given's protests, in my opinion, were because of Higuain, that's what he was pointing at. Di Maria wasn't an obvious offside, certainly from Given's angle.

I didn't know the rule. I admit, until Razor told us.

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Quote from: rosnarun on August 11, 2010, 08:28:12 PM

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.

I'm very impressed that the apostrophe police has it's own network of informants. It's not a proper police force without snouts touts. Where would you get the budget for this?

Quote from: Capt Pat on August 12, 2010, 08:37:33 PM
The time in the dying minutes when Mc Shane passed the ball 70 yards back to the keeper instead of playing it into the box was a disgrace. I nearly had a fit.

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Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:44:15 AM

Quote from: rosnarun on August 11, 2010, 08:28:12 PM

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.

I'm very impressed that the apostrophe police has it's own network of informants. It's not a proper police force without snouts touts. Where would you get the budget for this?

You're nicked!!

Quote from: passedit on August 12, 2010, 10:49:31 PM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 05:12:09 PM

Quote from: passedit on August 12, 2010, 02:01:59 PM

Quote from: Hardy on August 12, 2010, 12:46:41 PM

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on August 12, 2010, 08:44:15 AM

Quote from: rosnarun on August 11, 2010, 08:28:12 PM

Quote from: Hardy on August 11, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
I wouldn't usually be looking in here, but I wanted to know what people think of the national broadcaster referring to the Argentinian national team as "the Argies" in its sports bulletins. It's my understanding that this is a disrespectful term that originated in the British tabloids at the time of the Malvinas war. I certainly don't think you'd hear it on the BBC, just as you wouldn't hear them referring to eye-ties or krauts. But RTÉ's standards of sub-editing and basic competence in the language seem to have sunk so low that they don't even know (or care) what they're saying.

Does RTÉ even have a department that looks after language guidelines and pronunciation or the like? I'd say they definitely don't but for one thing. Everyone on RTÉ seems to have been trained to pronounce the "R" in "RTÉ" as "Arrrrr", which nobody else in the country does, that I know of. My guess is that the old codger who runs language and pronunciation has forgotten everything else except the importance of "Arrrr" and that's all new recruits get taught. And of course he can't be fired or even told what to do because he's a civil servant.

Sorry - I didn't know where this was going when I started.

YOUR RIGHT NO ONE CARES
As long as they make the selves clearly understood . it does not matter how they pronounce words or spell them for that matter. it is the main strength of the english language .
refudiate my point if you must

Evidently so

Brilliant! I'd have missed this classic if someone hadn't sent me a PM about it. It's wonderful how a few sentences of near English can so effectively make a point, even if it's the opposite to the one intended.

I'm very impressed that the apostrophe police has it's own network of informants. It's not a proper police force without snouts touts. Where would you get the budget for this?

You're nicked!!

I know ignorance is no defence in law but you're gonna have to enlighten me?

Quote from: Main Street on August 13, 2010, 12:42:37 AM
Not worth bothering about.
But who knows what happens behind the scenes in the mundane world of devoted apostrophe watchers,  a misspelled word -  a missing apostrophe - an alternate but opposite interpretation to what you intended -  has hit the apostrophe watcher's jackpot. Your post may yet be nominated for the front page of the Apostrophe Times - Sept issue.     Better than sex, or so I'm told.   

Quote from: Hardy on August 13, 2010, 12:37:16 PM

Quote from: Main Street on August 13, 2010, 12:42:37 AM
Not worth bothering about.
But who knows what happens behind the scenes in the mundane world of devoted apostrophe watchers,  a misspelled word -  a missing apostrophe - an alternate but opposite interpretation to what you intended -  has hit the apostrophe watcher's jackpot. Your post may yet be nominated for the front page of the Apostrophe Times - Sept issue.     Better than sex, or so I'm told.   

You should try sex. Then you'll be able to put that one to bed, so to speak.

Quote from: Billys Boots on August 12, 2010, 09:52:17 AM

Quote from: johnneycool on August 12, 2010, 09:41:02 AM
What's the reasoning for the open end in the Aviva stadium?

Looks a bit silly but I'm sure there's some logical explaination I'm unaware of.

No logical reason - politically (i.e. planning) influential residents who want to see the sun at a particular time of the day.

Quote from: Denn Forever on September 01, 2010, 03:39:46 PM
I hope Dunne if fit for Friday.  Though McShane has played centre back before so we're ok there.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0901/ireland.html

QuoteThough McShane has played centre back before so we're ok there.

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Quote from: Denn Forever on September 01, 2010, 03:39:46 PM
I hope Dunne if fit for Friday.  Though McShane has played centre back before so we're ok there.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0901/ireland.html

Is McShane not out injured?

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on September 02, 2010, 11:25:37 AM
We've every chance tomorrow with the team featured on the poster outside the ground in Algeria:

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j218/TarMc/155323271-41ada3410b70cff4e0ead4c9d.jpg)

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on September 02, 2010, 11:25:37 AM
We've every chance tomorrow with the team featured on the poster outside the ground in Algeria:

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j218/TarMc/155323271-41ada3410b70cff4e0ead4c9d.jpg)

Quote from: Denn Forever on September 03, 2010, 10:14:16 PM
Richard Saddler is good in the analysis stakes.  When will get a chance with Giles/Dunphy/Brady. 

He has the understated manner that would mean it would be interesting with Dunphy.

Quote from: Bud Wiser on September 03, 2010, 07:38:28 PM
Brian Cody needs to be manager for the next game because Robbie Keane needs to be dropped and nobody wants to do it.

Quote from: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 03:09:17 PM
Too right, Robbie was not good yesterday but it is incredible the levels of criticism this guy gets off his own supporters, shows just how ignorant most football fans are. For example, Kevin Doyle may have been brilliant yesterday and he always works harder than any of his teammates but he wouldn't score in month of sundays and Robbie is just so much more talented than Doyle, yet there is never a bad word said about Doyle.

Quote from: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 03:09:17 PM
Robbie is just so much more talented than Doyle

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Quote from: Bud Wiser on September 03, 2010, 07:38:28 PM
Brian Cody needs to be manager for the next game because Robbie Keane needs to be dropped and nobody wants to do it.

Dead right, he was disgraceful (again). The rest of the team working like dogs and he was frankly reminiscant of the "goal hanger" in the play ground (except the goal hanger would usually score when the chance came). Though I wouln't drop him just yet. Robbie will no doubt extend his international scoring record in the next game. These are the ones he thrives in.
Doyle was sensational, fair play to him. Like Fahey too. Most of the team did fine but I'm very worried about St Ledger and Kilbane. Accidents waiting to happen the pair of them. Good enough result and fully deserved.

QuoteBecause he always empties himself.

Sure Liam Brady is more talented than the lot of them - lets stick him in for the next match.  ::)

Quote from: magpie seanie on September 04, 2010, 04:07:46 PM
Do people honestly think Robbie Keane is a good finisher?

Quote from: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
Green is getting away way too softly here, he was absolutely rubbish. A terrible first half followed by a slightly improved second half. Definitely should have been substitued for Gibson early in the second half but I can only assume Trap didn't want to ruin his confidence.

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Quote from: magpie seanie on September 04, 2010, 04:07:46 PM
Do people honestly think Robbie Keane is a good finisher?

If you have to ask that question, this analysis business is a good bit beyond you.
I can't count the number of times Robbie Keane has dug us out of a hole to live for another day.

An atrocious miss last night. Made amends by good intelligent play to hold the ball for Doyle to lay it off to Fahey.

Quote from: Boycey on September 04, 2010, 04:54:30 PM

Quote from: Main Street on September 04, 2010, 04:40:26 PM

Quote from: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
Green is getting away way too softly here, he was absolutely rubbish. A terrible first half followed by a slightly improved second half. Definitely should have been substitued for Gibson early in the second half but I can only assume Trap didn't want to ruin his confidence.

Assume all you want but Trap was not shy to substitute Keogh in Italy after 25 minutes. If Trap felt he had to substitute Green he would have done so without the slightest regard for the player's confidence. Dunne made 2 horrific mistakes, Green made 3 or 4, but the rest of his play was adequate for a pressure game in a competitive debut. The only alternative to Green was Gibson and quite frankly Green's effective workrate puts him ahead of Gibson atm, in the Irish set up.

Surely the only reason Green is playing instead of Gibson is that he's being playing regular club footie at the start of this season wheras Gibson hasn't?

Quote from: BennyHarp on September 04, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!

Quote from: BennyHarp on September 04, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!

Quote from: ross4life on September 04, 2010, 05:13:15 PM
I wasn't keeping up to date but can someone tell me why these international games were all played on Friday instead of Saturday?

Quote from: Boycey on September 04, 2010, 04:54:30 PM

Quote from: Main Street on September 04, 2010, 04:40:26 PM

Quote from: GBXII on September 04, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
Green is getting away way too softly here, he was absolutely rubbish. A terrible first half followed by a slightly improved second half. Definitely should have been substitued for Gibson early in the second half but I can only assume Trap didn't want to ruin his confidence.

Assume all you want but Trap was not shy to substitute Keogh in Italy after 25 minutes. If Trap felt he had to substitute Green he would have done so without the slightest regard for the player's confidence. Dunne made 2 horrific mistakes, Green made 3 or 4, but the rest of his play was adequate for a pressure game in a competitive debut. The only alternative to Green was Gibson and quite frankly Green's effective workrate puts him ahead of Gibson atm, in the Irish set up.

Surely the only reason Green is playing instead of Gibson is that he's being playing regular club footie at the start of this season wheras Gibson hasn't?

Quote from: BennyHarp on September 04, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!

Quote from: J OGorman on September 06, 2010, 03:29:42 PM

Quote from: BennyHarp on September 04, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
I cant believe the grief robbie keane gets on here - he may not be the force he was but he is most definately worth his place on that team! Its not as if we are blessed with loads of top strikers to replace him!

Nor can I.

Quote from: Billys Boots on September 06, 2010, 03:35:37 PM
You've answered your own question.  ;)

Quote from: trileacman on September 06, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
Instead we get trotted out the same players in different positions. Green/Whelan/McShane/Kilbane/Lawrence/Doyle/O'Shea. Grafters not stylists. Thinkers not entertainers. There will be ten replies to this saying its better to get the results than to entertain but I say balls to that. I'd rather see us lose playing well than lose playing badly.

Quote from: trileacman on September 06, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
Instead we get trotted out the same players in different positions. Green/Whelan/McShane/Kilbane/Lawrence/Doyle/O'Shea. Grafters not stylists. Thinkers not entertainers. There will be ten replies to this saying its better to get the results than to entertain but I say balls to that. I'd rather see us lose playing well than lose playing badly.

Quote from: GBXII on September 06, 2010, 08:37:38 PM
Have to agree with trileacman, the main reason I look forward to Irish games (these days) is to watch McGeady, even if he hasn't fully developed. He makes fools out of defenders, I get the impression that one day he is going to explode potential-wise, a bit like Ronaldo for Utd a few years back.

Quote from: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 05:59:24 PM
Russia beaten at home good result for us?

Quote from: red hander on September 07, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
Fair play to Zinedine Kilbane ... he's been some servant

Quote from: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 08:35:30 PM
Andorra deserved that 2-1 is about right at half time

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on September 07, 2010, 10:25:26 PM
Where were these €50 tickets for,mine was €70
Boring enough match but some nice goals.
3 points is all that matters though

Quote from: Declan on September 07, 2010, 09:33:23 PM
Jaysus we are hard to watch when we have to try and play football constructively. McGeady is one of those players who you'd love to throttle cos the amount of times he picks the wrong option is incredible. Anyway we'll here the usual tripe re a professional job etc, 3 points, top of the table, they were well organised etc.
The amazing thing is that the majority of these lads ply their trade in the PL on about 40K a week.

Quote from: GBXII on September 07, 2010, 11:08:22 PM
Was very interesting there, had a look on the boards.ie site at the Ireland thread just to see what Irish supporters were saying about the match. An unbelievable amount of abuse being directed at McGeady. It's funny because I can understand why people might regard him as being frustrating and maybe he didnt have a great game but to say he's shite and not worth his place on the team has to be just plain wrong. In my eyes he is the only attacking outlet, actually, as far as I can see, the only player on the team/squad who has any bit of pace.

Was also interesting how in his interview Trap made the effort to single out McGeady. In my opinon either because he genuinely felt he was brilliant or because he wants to boost his confidence. Either way Trap knows he is a talented player.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on September 08, 2010, 09:47:36 AM
If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.

Quote from: AFS on September 08, 2010, 09:58:21 AM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on September 08, 2010, 09:47:36 AM
If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.

McGeady will be back on the bench as soon as Duff gets over his knock. A fit Hunt is ahead in the pecking order too.

Quote from: AFS on September 08, 2010, 09:58:21 AM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on September 08, 2010, 09:47:36 AM
If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.

McGeady will be back on the bench as soon as Duff gets over his knock. A fit Hunt is ahead in the pecking order too.

Quotebut couldn't trap a bag of cement.

Quote from: AFS on September 08, 2010, 09:58:21 AM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on September 08, 2010, 09:47:36 AM
If they cant get the ball early to mcgeady (in space) and cant play a faster tempo then its going to be more of the same.

McGeady will be back on the bench as soon as Duff gets over his knock. A fit Hunt is ahead in the pecking order too.

Quote from: J OGorman on September 08, 2010, 12:01:06 PM
fierce bit of over reaction from last night. We've a very limited squad of average to decent players. Trap knows this more than you or I. Whilst its not pleasant on the eye (same as during Big Jack's tenure) we are set up to maximise what resources are available. So close to qualification for the world cup and 6 points from 2 games (one on the road). Whilst we were playing only Andorra last night, why would a manager (who has very limited time to work with a team and install a belief and certain playing style) change it to appease us or those 3 clowns in the studio (who are no more than human versions of the gutter press), then attempt to revert back to a more defence, battle hardy style when playing tougher opposition.

Quote from: J OGorman on September 08, 2010, 12:01:06 PM
McGeady is fustrating at times for sure, but magical at times also. He has to be ahead of both Hunt and Duff.

Quote from: trileacman on October 04, 2010, 07:09:08 PM
Did you hear this rigmaroll of the four nations tournament. Suprised it didn't warrant one word on here last week for such a soccer (and nationalist) mad board. Are all 6 matches to be played in Aviva?

Quote from: trileacman on October 04, 2010, 07:09:08 PM
Did you hear this rigmaroll of the four nations tournament. Suprised it didn't warrant one word on here last week for such a soccer (and nationalist) mad board. Are all 6 matches to be played in Aviva?

Quote from: ross4life on October 07, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Is the Russia team up yet? a must win for qualification IMO

Quote from: ross4life on October 07, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Is the Russia team up yet? a must win for qualification IMO

Quote from: The Worker on October 08, 2010, 06:23:35 PM
Armenia 3 Slovakia 1!!


makes tonights game even more so important!!


COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN!!!

Quote from: tyssam5 on October 08, 2010, 07:37:05 PM
Any streams for this?

Quote from: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 07:40:44 PM

Quote from: tyssam5 on October 08, 2010, 07:37:05 PM
Any streams for this?

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=89928&part=sports

Quote from: thebandit on October 08, 2010, 08:19:26 PM
Incompetence outside the ground and on the pitch :(

Quote from: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:15:48 PM
Late comeback?

Quote from: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 09:16:46 PM

Quote from: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:15:48 PM
Late comeback?

I'd love to say yes but...

Quote from: Celt_Man on October 08, 2010, 09:16:46 PM

Quote from: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:15:48 PM
Late comeback?

I'd love to say yes but...

Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 08, 2010, 09:48:38 PM
Was there any contact with Robbie for the penalty? Glad we got it obviously, but they were a shambles up until that point and I hope Green and Whelan never start together again.

Quote from: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
Richard Dunne MOTM on RTE?

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 11:56:11 AM
Cast iron penalty, softly conceded by the defender who definitely clipped Robbie.
Usual moronic bull directed at Robbie from so called irish fans.
Lawrence, Doyle and Whelan were particularily atrocious last night but apart from McGeady and Long, the whole team from 1-11 were not at the races. I might have given the motm to the ball boy but even he was a bit slow.
Had to laugh though at Given berating the stretcher bearers to move faster and get the obviously injured played off, with more haste.

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 11:56:11 AM
Cast iron penalty, softly conceded by the defender who definitely clipped Robbie.
Usual moronic bull directed at Robbie from so called irish fans.
Lawrence, Doyle and Whelan were particularily atrocious last night but apart from McGeady and Long, the whole team from 1-11 were not at the races. I might have given the motm to the ball boy but even he was a bit slow.
Had to laugh though at Given berating the stretcher bearers to move faster and get the obviously injured played off, with more haste.

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:13:33 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

Quote from: ExiledGael on October 08, 2010, 08:37:14 PM

Quote from: thebandit on October 08, 2010, 08:19:26 PM
Incompetence outside the ground and on the pitch :(

What's gone on outside the ground??
Totally outclassed is right. McGeady looks a threat, maybe, but it's hard to see us turning this around. They look like creating chances every time they cross the half way line.

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 09, 2010, 03:24:08 PM

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

Don't watch it then,quite simple really.
You won't be much of a loss either.

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 03:28:41 PM

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:13:33 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?

Quote from: ross4life on October 08, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
Richard Dunne MOTM on RTE?

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:13:33 PM

"There was no contact".
"Keane dives and he's a hero".

Stick to Bogball guys, you do not know the game of Soccer.

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:38:44 PM

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 03:28:41 PM

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:13:33 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?

People of a self flagellation nature who cannot look at an incident like this  objectively and come to a rational judgement of what happened and instead use their warped judgement of what happened as a stick to beat with . The rationality gets blinded by prejudice towards Keane, towards soccer, towards Ireland or any combination of the three.

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 03:36:38 PM

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 09, 2010, 03:24:08 PM

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

Don't watch it then,quite simple really.
You won't be much of a loss either.

I wilt in the glare of such wit and wisdom.

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:38:44 PM

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 03:28:41 PM

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:13:33 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?

People of a self flagellation nature who cannot look at an incident like this  objectively and come to a rational judgement of what happened and instead use their warped judgement of what happened as a stick to beat with . The rationality gets blinded by prejudice towards Keane, towards soccer, towards Ireland or any combination of the three.
Most times when Ireland get awarded a penalty it is regarded as down to luck by detractors. The last qualification campaign being also an example, Ireland were supposed to have had all the luck in order to finish 2nd, conveniently forgetting that Italy were fortunate to win in Montenegro, fortunate to get 2  incredible own goals in Georgia, a last gasp equaliser against us and a very fortunate last gasp winner against Cyprus.

Quote from: tyroneman on October 09, 2010, 08:30:50 PM
We must have the poorest central midfield in Irelands history. A shambolic pairing who offer nothing whatsoever beyond a lot of running around.

Dunphy's choice of words may have been OTT but his sentiment was spot on; Gibson is a very poor player. Russia could, should, have won by 5.

It's a shame that only 3 players could make all the difference. A LB and CM x 2.

Quote from: Boycey on October 10, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
Why are people discussing what Dunphy  said on this thread?? He's an idiot, people keep saying he's better than the bland guys on Sky,no he's not he's just as predictable as they are. He'll just slag off Utd/Liverpool/Ireland, whoever will get him the most notice at that particular time. He has nothing constructive to offer.


On Doyle being out, he's a huge loss. Our whole game is based around booting the ball up to him and seeing what happens next.

Quote from: Boycey on October 10, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
Why are people discussing what Dunphy  said on this thread?? He's an idiot, people keep saying he's better than the bland guys on Sky,no he's not he's just as predictable as they are. He'll just slag off Utd/Liverpool/Ireland, whoever will get him the most notice at that particular time. He has nothing constructive to offer.


On Doyle being out, he's a huge loss. Our whole game is based around booting the ball up to him and seeing what happens next.

Quote from: Boycey on October 10, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
Why are people discussing what Dunphy  said on this thread?? He's an idiot, people keep saying he's better than the bland guys on Sky,no he's not he's just as predictable as they are. He'll just slag off Utd/Liverpool/Ireland, whoever will get him the most notice at that particular time. He has nothing constructive to offer.


On Doyle being out, he's a huge loss. Our whole game is based around booting the ball up to him and seeing what happens next.

QuoteBut dont let that get in the way of how most irish players couldnt trap a bag of sand.

Quote from: INDIANA on October 09, 2010, 02:23:48 PM

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

I agree.

Henry dives and he's a cheat

Keane dives and he's a hero.

You couldn't write the hypocrisy of it.

It shows where soccer is in Ireland when the only way we can score a goal against a decent side is using Wimbeldon tactics. Says everything.

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 11, 2010, 12:38:23 PM

Quote from: INDIANA on October 09, 2010, 02:23:48 PM

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

I agree.

Henry dives and he's a cheat

Keane dives and he's a hero.

You couldn't write the hypocrisy of it.

It shows where soccer is in Ireland when the only way we can score a goal against a decent side is using Wimbeldon tactics. Says everything.

Yeah and if you point out things like the above you're a traitor or a bogball idiot or something. Wasn't it rather apt they played that "we're all part of Jackie's army" song just before kickoff.

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 11, 2010, 02:20:34 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 11, 2010, 12:38:23 PM

Quote from: INDIANA on October 09, 2010, 02:23:48 PM

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 12:48:57 PM
There was no contact any of the times he went down. He's vying with Duff as the most annoying Irish diver. Tiresome shite to watch. I know this stuff is endemic in the value-free world of professional soccer, but it's still annoying seeing overpaid millionaires purporting to represent our country carrying on like this.

I agree.

Henry dives and he's a cheat

Keane dives and he's a hero.

You couldn't write the hypocrisy of it.

It shows where soccer is in Ireland when the only way we can score a goal against a decent side is using Wimbeldon tactics. Says everything.

Yeah and if you point out things like the above you're a traitor or a bogball idiot or something. Wasn't it rather apt they played that "we're all part of Jackie's army" song just before kickoff.

Watched it in the pub & shouted dive in real time to a chorus of "nah, he was tripped". Not a peep out of them after the replays. Agree with everything Hardy said there, it's a different game to the one I grew up with, was hoping Russia would hold out at the end & I'm glad they did.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 11, 2010, 06:35:44 PM
Croí and Hardy are both right though. He dived.

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 11, 2010, 07:41:31 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 11, 2010, 06:35:44 PM
Croí and Hardy are both right though. He dived.

Doesn't stop them being grumpy moany shites though.


PS I said a few pages back it was a soft peno

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 11, 2010, 06:16:12 PM
I'd rather get the hockeying we were in line for than try and cheat and dive our way out of it. Honesty of effort goes a long way, I don't see soccer coming back from the depth's it has plunged to. It's now a "sport" that actively encourages cheating and diving and it's a much poorer game for it.

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:38:44 PM

Quote from: Hardy on October 09, 2010, 03:28:41 PM

Quote from: Main Street on October 09, 2010, 03:13:33 PM
In fact, the only complaints, are the usual self loathing Irish folk who occasionally condescend to watch an Irish international game.

What in the name of imperial hell is this supposed to mean?

People of a self flagellation nature who cannot look at an incident like this  objectively and come to a rational judgement of what happened and instead use their warped judgement of what happened as a stick to beat with . The rationality gets blinded by prejudice towards Keane, towards soccer, towards Ireland or any combination of the three.
Most times when Ireland get awarded a penalty it is regarded as down to luck by detractors. The last qualification campaign being also an example, Ireland were supposed to have had all the luck in order to finish 2nd, conveniently forgetting that Italy were fortunate to win in Montenegro, fortunate to get 2  incredible own goals in Georgia, a last gasp equaliser against us and a very fortunate last gasp winner against Cyprus.

Quote from: King Henry on October 12, 2010, 06:06:33 PM
What about the cheating prattery of Joe Sheridan? You have something in common with him though of course yer both annoying c***ts from Meath

Quote from: Billys Boots on October 12, 2010, 11:15:25 AM

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 11, 2010, 06:16:12 PM
I'd rather get the hockeying we were in line for than try and cheat and dive our way out of it. Honesty of effort goes a long way, I don't see soccer coming back from the depth's it has plunged to. It's now a "sport" that actively encourages cheating and diving and it's a much poorer game for it.

I was watching the U21 playoff between Iceland and Scotland last night - Scottish lad took a tumble (after the Iceland defender had pulled his foot back from the challenge) looking for a peno late on and got booked.  It's pitiful that it has come to this; and I don't see a way back either.

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

Quote from: screenmachine on October 12, 2010, 08:21:37 PM
Shite penalty, not so hilarious! Guaranteed 2-1 defeat now...

Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 12, 2010, 08:23:13 PM
The words useless and **** spring to mind. If he had managed to control the ball from the poor Clarence they would not have scored. Misses a sitter and then a penalty.

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 08:24:56 PM

Quote from: gerrykeegan on October 12, 2010, 08:23:13 PM
The words useless and **** spring to mind. If he had managed to control the ball from the poor Clarence they would not have scored. Misses a sitter and then a penalty.

I always thought Seedorf was a good player,didn't know he played for Slovakia though

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:34:23 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 12, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
Blatant dive from that cheater McGeady there. I hope Slovakia win 10-1 now.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 12, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
Blatant dive from that cheater McGeady there. I hope Slovakia win 10-1 now.

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:43:00 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:34:23 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:54:29 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:43:00 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:34:23 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?

I remember it well but without speaking for BNM man I'm sure he meant significant win in
context of beating a team higher than Ireland in the rankings. In that sense it was just a win.

Quote from: gerry on October 12, 2010, 08:56:01 PM
Riot police on the field at the italy v serbia match

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 09:04:03 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:54:29 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:43:00 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:34:23 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?

I remember it well but without speaking for BNM man I'm sure he meant significant win in
context of beating a team higher than Ireland in the rankings. In that sense it was just a win.

Rankings don't mean everything. It was a very significant win in the eyes of many irish fans.

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 09:07:19 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 09:04:03 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:54:29 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:43:00 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:34:23 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 12, 2010, 08:28:52 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:22:55 PM

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on October 12, 2010, 08:17:29 PM

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on October 12, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
I wonder will the Republic get their first significant away win in a qualifier since Scotland in 1987?
Tradition suggests the Slovaks will equalise.

Hope you're happy George Hamilton  :)

If I was Hamilton, I'd have been lauding a great victory!  ;)
Robbie Keane's miss is just following the trend. Ireland don't do away wins!

cyprus away last qualification campaign

He meant a significant away win. You could hardly call Cyprus a powerhouse of European football.
They've never even qualified for a major tournament.

It wasnt signifcant? you remember Nicosia ok?

I remember it well but without speaking for BNM man I'm sure he meant significant win in
context of beating a team higher than Ireland in the rankings. In that sense it was just a win.

Rankings don't mean everything. It was a very significant win in the eyes of many irish fans.

Against a team whose best ever finish in a qualifying group is 4th place!  ;D

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 12, 2010, 08:47:25 PM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 12, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
Blatant dive from that cheater McGeady there. I hope Slovakia win 10-1 now.

You see that might have been funny if the keeper hadn't clattered him. Try again.

Quote from: ross4life on October 12, 2010, 09:29:46 PM
A apology from Dunphy for his OTT description on Gibson  :o

Quote from: sammymaguire on October 12, 2010, 10:02:43 PM
A bit harsh myles, they were missing Duff and Doyle and Stephen Ireland  :'( I think Long was ineffective throughout, Keane looked stale, crap peno, Green should not be there, out of his depth, McGeady still lacking a final ball, Kilbane is finished although Dunne, St Ledger, Fahy, O'Shea all solid players and should be enough there to get through to another play-off

Team desperately needs a proper central midfielder

Still think Trapp should have Andy Reid in the squad too, good 20 minute man who can create

Quote from: maldini on October 12, 2010, 09:59:53 PM

Quote from: ross4life on October 12, 2010, 09:29:46 PM
A apology from Dunphy for his OTT description on Gibson  :o

he apologised for calling him an awful player and then went on to say he was a poor player - not much difference really

Keane's worst performance in an ireland jersey, missed 3 clear chances and his mis-control led to the corner for their goal
he needs a move in January

Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 12, 2010, 10:13:23 PM

Quote from: sammymaguire on October 12, 2010, 10:02:43 PM
A bit harsh myles, they were missing Duff and Doyle and Stephen Ireland  :'( I think Long was ineffective throughout, Keane looked stale, crap peno, Green should not be there, out of his depth, McGeady still lacking a final ball, Kilbane is finished although Dunne, St Ledger, Fahy, O'Shea all solid players and should be enough there to get through to another play-off

Team desperately needs a proper central midfielder

Still think Trapp should have Andy Reid in the squad too, good 20 minute man who can create

Stephen Ireland? ;)

Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 12, 2010, 10:50:58 PM
Surely the question up front is whether Long deserves his place ahead of Keane?

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 12, 2010, 10:49:04 PM
Stokes?
Ahead of Doyle?
Wow........

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on October 13, 2010, 09:19:15 AM
No competitive matches until the end of March 2011. Thank God.

It's a struggle watching this shower. I know silk purses and sow's ear and all that but if I could have reached into the telly and given Robbie Keane a root in the hole I would have.

Roll on the O'Byrne Cup.

Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2010, 12:47:48 AM
Is it unreasonable to demand qualification from players who inhabit the bottom of the Premier League table and lower? Why do people expect us to make it?

Quote from: AFS on October 13, 2010, 09:58:40 AM

Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2010, 12:47:48 AM
Is it unreasonable to demand qualification from players who inhabit the bottom of the Premier League table and lower? Why do people expect us to make it?

It's not particularly unreasonable. Every two years several countries that inhabit our tier of world football are able to find their way into major tournaments. Despite not having playing resources significantly superior to ours, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece and Denmark were able to find their way into this summer's World Cup finals.

Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2010, 01:00:33 PM

Quote from: AFS on October 13, 2010, 09:58:40 AM

Quote from: muppet on October 13, 2010, 12:47:48 AM
Is it unreasonable to demand qualification from players who inhabit the bottom of the Premier League table and lower? Why do people expect us to make it?

It's not particularly unreasonable. Every two years several countries that inhabit our tier of world football are able to find their way into major tournaments. Despite not having playing resources significantly superior to ours, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece and Denmark were able to find their way into this summer's World Cup finals.

We are demanding qualification up of just our lowly lot. Pointing to a few bottom feeders who have qualified out of all the bottom feeders isn't really an argument.

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 13, 2010, 10:31:33 PM
Just read the FAI laid on a train for those supporters who booked the hotel in the city where the fixture was to take place,also Delaney paid for drink for all for the train journey.
Fair play to them and him,credit where credit is due.

I'm sure someone will have a moan about it though..

Quote from: Declan on August 12, 2010, 07:57:30 AM
Downsides were the fact that no beer allowed for the plebs - brother in law in the Premier said they were open but when I enquired from the young lassie I was told Uefa don't allow it!! - Gently told her that this was BS and asked to see the supervisor but no luck.

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 13, 2010, 10:31:33 PM
Just read the FAI laid on a train for those supporters who booked the hotel in the city where the fixture was to take place,also Delaney paid for drink for all for the train journey.
Fair play to them and him,credit where credit is due.

I'm sure someone will have a moan about it though..

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 17, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Quote from: Celt_Man on October 17, 2010, 02:52:35 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 17, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway

Quote from: The Worker on October 17, 2010, 03:17:07 PM

Quote from: Celt_Man on October 17, 2010, 02:52:35 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 17, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway

Trappatoni said in a press conference last week that he was impressed with both Coleman and Wilson in training, and both will be tested in upcoming friendlies.

Quote from: The Worker on October 17, 2010, 03:17:07 PM

Quote from: Celt_Man on October 17, 2010, 02:52:35 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 17, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway

Trappatoni said in a press conference last week that he was impressed with both Coleman and Wilson in training, and both will be tested in upcoming friendlies.

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 17, 2010, 03:34:28 PM

Quote from: The Worker on October 17, 2010, 03:17:07 PM

Quote from: Celt_Man on October 17, 2010, 02:52:35 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on October 17, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Just watching the Everton match there and I'm thinking - how the hell is Coleman not in the Ireland team? Trapp needs to cop himself on.

Just thinking the same myself - has to start against Norway

Trappatoni said in a press conference last week that he was impressed with both Coleman and Wilson in training, and both will be tested in upcoming friendlies.

He must have been reading this thread and took the advice of all its armchair experts who know more than him.

Quote from: 118cmal on October 17, 2010, 03:40:41 PM
Time to get Coleman into the starting XI?

Quote from: Bogball XV on October 18, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
i think he was talking about Stephen Ireland as opposed to Stephen Reid in that first highlighted bit.
Andy Reid's grand, but he isn't holding down a Sunderland starting place at present.  Delap retired years ago I thought? But all of the names bandied about there and he doesn't mention the best Irish player in the premiership at present, Seamus Coleman.

Quote from: omagh_gael on October 18, 2010, 10:42:00 AM

Quote from: Bogball XV on October 18, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
i think he was talking about Stephen Ireland as opposed to Stephen Reid in that first highlighted bit.
Andy Reid's grand, but he isn't holding down a Sunderland starting place at present.  Delap retired years ago I thought? But all of the names bandied about there and he doesn't mention the best Irish player in the premiership at present, Seamus Coleman.

Sure he was causing havoc all last season with his long throw in's at Stoke. Not sure if he is holding down a regular start this season though.

Quote from: Bogball XV on October 18, 2010, 11:51:31 AM

Quote from: omagh_gael on October 18, 2010, 10:42:00 AM

Quote from: Bogball XV on October 18, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
i think he was talking about Stephen Ireland as opposed to Stephen Reid in that first highlighted bit.
Andy Reid's grand, but he isn't holding down a Sunderland starting place at present.  Delap retired years ago I thought? But all of the names bandied about there and he doesn't mention the best Irish player in the premiership at present, Seamus Coleman.

Sure he was causing havoc all last season with his long throw in's at Stoke. Not sure if he is holding down a regular start this season though.

he scored on saturday, i mean retired from international football?

Quote from: 118cmal on October 21, 2010, 11:47:11 AM
I see Ciaran Clark from Aston Villa has pledged his international future to Ireland.  Don't know much about him other than that he's a highly rated centre back and former England u19 captain.  Should provide competition to St Ledger at least.  Does anyone know if he can play right back?  Would be good for Ireland to have another option there and then maybe move O'Shea across to LB.

Quote from: Feckitt on October 21, 2010, 01:46:31 PM
Does anyone know where his parents are from?

Quote from: Denn Forever on November 01, 2010, 07:52:49 PM
Saw this in yesterday's Tribune.  Would he be a good addition or no better than we have/

Noble set to join Irish band as Alex keeps Gunners on Song
premier league Speculation that West Ham ace will feature in Friday's Trapattoni squad
Ciaran Cronin, Emirates Stadium

The right note: Arsenal's Alex Song (left) is challenged by Luis Boa Morte of West Ham United during their Premier League match at the Emirates Stadium Mark Noble yesterday proved what an asset he could be to Giovanni Trapattoni's Ireland as West Ham were narrowly beaten by Arsenal at the Emirates, courtesy of a headed goal from Alex Song's two minutes from time.




Strong rumours have been circulating in recent days that the former England under-21 captain, born and bred in East London but 'Irish' by virtue of one of his grandparents, is close to declaring for Trapattoni's side and may well be included in the squad for the friendly against Norway on 17 November at the Aviva Stadium.




Irish assistant manager Marco Tardelli was at Upton Park on Wednesday when the player came off the bench on 72 minutes with West Ham 1-0 down to Stoke City in the League Cup. Noble contributed richly to his side's comeback that evening and was a force again yesterday.




With a neat touch here, a clever pass there, he was involved in all of West Ham's best play while the player's 30-yard run and rasping drive on 35 minutes forced Lukasz Fabianski into a very important save.




His delivery from set-pieces, which he deliberately placed as close as possible to Arsenal's keeper, were also extremely effective on the day.




Trapattoni, who must surely be keeping a close eye on the player, will also have been impressed by Noble's energy and discipline. Playing in a three-man midfield alongside Scott Parker and Luis Boa Morte, Noble kept as much of an eye on his defensive duties as his attacking ones.




All in all, he would represent a significant addition to the Irish ranks. The Noble camp have been quiet on the rumours this week but, interestingly, have not gone out of their way to dismiss them out of hand. Trapattoni names his squad for the Norway game on Friday.


October 31, 2010

QuoteMore FAI incompetence...

Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on November 01, 2010, 07:57:58 PM

Quote from: Denn Forever on November 01, 2010, 07:52:49 PM
Saw this in yesterday's Tribune.  Would he be a good addition or no better than we have/

Noble set to join Irish band as Alex keeps Gunners on Song
premier league Speculation that West Ham ace will feature in Friday's Trapattoni squad
Ciaran Cronin, Emirates Stadium

The right note: Arsenal's Alex Song (left) is challenged by Luis Boa Morte of West Ham United during their Premier League match at the Emirates Stadium Mark Noble yesterday proved what an asset he could be to Giovanni Trapattoni's Ireland as West Ham were narrowly beaten by Arsenal at the Emirates, courtesy of a headed goal from Alex Song's two minutes from time.




Strong rumours have been circulating in recent days that the former England under-21 captain, born and bred in East London but 'Irish' by virtue of one of his grandparents, is close to declaring for Trapattoni's side and may well be included in the squad for the friendly against Norway on 17 November at the Aviva Stadium.




Irish assistant manager Marco Tardelli was at Upton Park on Wednesday when the player came off the bench on 72 minutes with West Ham 1-0 down to Stoke City in the League Cup. Noble contributed richly to his side's comeback that evening and was a force again yesterday.




With a neat touch here, a clever pass there, he was involved in all of West Ham's best play while the player's 30-yard run and rasping drive on 35 minutes forced Lukasz Fabianski into a very important save.




His delivery from set-pieces, which he deliberately placed as close as possible to Arsenal's keeper, were also extremely effective on the day.




Trapattoni, who must surely be keeping a close eye on the player, will also have been impressed by Noble's energy and discipline. Playing in a three-man midfield alongside Scott Parker and Luis Boa Morte, Noble kept as much of an eye on his defensive duties as his attacking ones.




All in all, he would represent a significant addition to the Irish ranks. The Noble camp have been quiet on the rumours this week but, interestingly, have not gone out of their way to dismiss them out of hand. Trapattoni names his squad for the Norway game on Friday.


October 31, 2010

Now that would be a great capture!!

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on November 02, 2010, 01:38:35 PM
Just had his appendix out so won't be named in the squad for the Norway game.

Quote from: Bogball XV on November 18, 2010, 12:29:21 AM
He'd maybe give coleman 5 mins if he was qualified to play for another country, you know, the way he did with mccarthy.

Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 18, 2010, 10:11:12 AM
Now that Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid can't catch a game with their club teams thank god for Coleman to give the fans with typewriters something to get indignant about. remind me again how many games this lad has played with Everton? Mind you, having listened to all the media guff (from the same sources that have built up others before mind) I'm a bit surprise Coleman didn't get a run on last night.

Quote from: magpie seanie on November 18, 2010, 12:38:06 PM

Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 18, 2010, 10:11:12 AM
Now that Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid can't catch a game with their club teams thank god for Coleman to give the fans with typewriters something to get indignant about. remind me again how many games this lad has played with Everton? Mind you, having listened to all the media guff (from the same sources that have built up others before mind) I'm a bit surprise Coleman didn't get a run on last night.

That's absolute rubbish anglocelt39. It was simply scandalous that Coleman didn't get a game last night. Its not just the last few weeks he has done well. He was very impressive in a few games early last season for Everton and did well for Blackpool in their promotion charge last season. He should have been capped long before now, never mind last night.

Trapp clearly does not like any player that shows a spark of invention or creativity. That's his prerogative as he is the manager but I think people are well within their rights to criticise it. If nothing else its better to play nice stuff and lose than play muck and still lose as has been happening.

Quote from: magpie seanie on November 18, 2010, 12:38:06 PM

Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 18, 2010, 10:11:12 AM
Now that Stephen Ireland and Andy Reid can't catch a game with their club teams thank god for Coleman to give the fans with typewriters something to get indignant about. remind me again how many games this lad has played with Everton? Mind you, having listened to all the media guff (from the same sources that have built up others before mind) I'm a bit surprise Coleman didn't get a run on last night.

That's absolute rubbish anglocelt39. It was simply scandalous that Coleman didn't get a game last night. Its not just the last few weeks he has done well. He was very impressive in a few games early last season for Everton and did well for Blackpool in their promotion charge last season. He should have been capped long before now, never mind last night.

Trapp clearly does not like any player that shows a spark of invention or creativity. That's his prerogative as he is the manager but I think people are well within their rights to criticise it. If nothing else its better to play nice stuff and lose than play muck and still lose as has been happening.

Quote from: outinfront on November 18, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
Coleman has been playing really well for Everton and had an exceptional season last year, helping Blackpool get promotion.  He should have had 20 mins last night.  McGeady is incredibly frustrating - can't fault his effort but it ultimately ends in indecision rather than good crosses or attempts on goal.

Quote from: AFS on November 18, 2010, 04:05:34 PM

Quote from: outinfront on November 18, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
Coleman has been playing really well for Everton and had an exceptional season last year, helping Blackpool get promotion.  He should have had 20 mins last night.  McGeady is incredibly frustrating - can't fault his effort but it ultimately ends in indecision rather than good crosses or attempts on goal.

He played nine games for Blackpool. He had a good couple of months, not an exceptional season.

He's a very exciting prospect, but with barely 20 professional appearences to his name, we could do well not getting carried away.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 18, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 18, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

Quote from: AFS on November 18, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 18, 2010, 11:08:40 PM

Quote from: AFS on November 18, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 18, 2010, 11:08:40 PM

Quote from: AFS on November 18, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 18, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

Quote from: AFS on November 19, 2010, 09:32:00 AM

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 18, 2010, 11:08:40 PM

Quote from: AFS on November 18, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

He's playing 'out of position' on the wing because when Everton tried him at RB he was found to be quite dodgy.

Quote from: lynchbhoy on November 18, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

The way I see his logic is this: The FB positions, along with finding Whelan a partner, are the team's biggest problems. Finding solutions to these problems will improve the team much more than slipping in a new right winger. So alternatives were tried at left and right back, behind the regular, experienced wingers. This way, the merits of Cunningham and Kelly could be properly evaluated. Sticking either in behind a complete novice would have compromised attempts to do this. Coleman will surely get a go next February, and most likely in front of O'Shea as to throw him in in front of anyone else would be similarly pointless.

Quote from: muppet on December 15, 2010, 11:27:45 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html)

Ireland wants to play for Ireland again to help put Ireland in the shop window.

Whaddayous think?

Sounds like a wind up to me.

Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2011, 11:45:58 AM
Why did Carr become one of the most disliked players (amongst fans) on the Irish team, when he did play?

QuoteHopefully Trap finally decides to start McCarthy. He is becoming a serious footballer.

Quote from: Orangemac on February 06, 2011, 11:51:42 PM


Things are looking good for Ireland with McCarthy, Doyle, Coleman, Wilson and Best all in good form. Is O'Hara still keen on playing. If so he should be called into the squad.

QuoteThe 19 year old Republic of Ireland youth international put on a sparkling performance in midfield, roaming into numerous positions throughout the 90 minutes. He was assured in possession and always looked to get the ball forward quickly to his team-mates.

Quote from: Bingo on March 08, 2011, 11:25:05 AM
Trap will be on the phone as we speak...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm)

Quote from: Bingo on March 08, 2011, 11:25:05 AM
Trap will be on the phone as we speak...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/9417873.stm)

Quote from: red hander on March 25, 2011, 06:13:35 PM
Think I'd prefer Paddy Kenny to replace Shay when he's injured.  Glad to see O'Dea on.  Duff and McGeady are in good form with their clubs so should cause bother down the wings.  On current form also, Long would be my choice before Keane.  Really like Kilbane for all he's done for Ireland, but I think he's past it and could be badly exposed if the Macedonians have a nippy winger

Quote from: red hander on March 25, 2011, 06:13:35 PM
Think I'd prefer Paddy Kenny to replace Shay when he's injured.  Glad to see O'Dea on.  Duff and McGeady are in good form with their clubs so should cause bother down the wings.  On current form also, Long would be my choice before Keane.  Really like Kilbane for all he's done for Ireland, but I think he's past it and could be badly exposed if the Macedonians have a nippy winger

Quote from: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 03:30:05 PM
Watching Armenia V Russia,still 0-0 after a half an hour.
It be great if the Armenians could get a result.

Quote from: Capt Pat on March 26, 2011, 08:15:11 PM
Im here to bring up the numbers. Bring on McCarthy.

Quote from: laoislad on March 26, 2011, 08:35:20 PM

Quote from: Capt Pat on March 26, 2011, 08:15:11 PM
Im here to bring up the numbers. Bring on McCarthy.

Im here too,very poor crowd alright but atmosphere decent enough.
Poor goal to concede there. Pitch not great those Rugby shites have it ruined.

Quote from: ross4life on March 26, 2011, 09:37:06 PM
So if we finish level on points it's decided on head 2 head games?

Quote from: Forever Green on March 26, 2011, 11:12:37 PM
Play like that against Russia and they will hammer us. Any more news on Doyles injury?Could be devastating for Wolves in their relegation fight

Quote from: Orangemac on March 26, 2011, 11:06:29 PM
Whelan was shocking tonight. Fahey needs to start with McCarthy in the middle.

Don't know if Dunne wasn't fit but was poor tonight.

3 points in Macedonia would leave Republic in good position. Seem to play better away from home.

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 27, 2011, 12:33:20 AM
Hardy - I can confirm Dangerhere did say this.

As well as saying "It's like watching Brazil" in the first half.

In the second half it was more painful than a Brazillian (or so I am lead to believe).

Brady was horrid contrary about the empty seats. Is Denis O'Brien paying him as well?

Quote from: Hardy on March 27, 2011, 10:54:02 AM

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 27, 2011, 12:33:20 AM
Hardy - I can confirm Dangerhere did say this.

As well as saying "It's like watching Brazil" in the first half.

In the second half it was more painful than a Brazillian (or so I am lead to believe).

Brady was horrid contrary about the empty seats. Is Denis O'Brien paying him as well?

Good God! It's the sort of thing you'd say as a bad joke about soccer players and you're telling me it's true. What a travesty of a game it's been allowed to become.

Quote from: Atticus_Finch on March 26, 2011, 09:52:49 PM
"That's below the belt"

What about Chippy having a go at Bill over the plight of the working man .... brilliant.

If it did cost 60 yo yos to go to that game tonight no wonder the stadium was half empty.

Quote from: Hardy on March 27, 2011, 12:01:23 AM
I can't believe I wasn't hearing things, so can anybody tell me me if I misheard George Hamilton saying Duff has had training from a judo coach in how to fall?

Quote from: Ulick on March 26, 2011, 09:39:06 PM
Mad how people see games differently. Granted I tend to get distracted when watching soccer but of what I did see, Duff was shite.

Quote from: imtommygunn on March 27, 2011, 09:43:11 PM
Duff was shite. As a real constructive influence on the game I didn't think he added much. He's beginning to remind me of Neil Lennon - get the ball and pass sideways / backwards.

Working hard ain't enough for international football.

Would like to see more of McCarthy in centre mid - agree regarding Whelan.

Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2011, 09:24:24 AM
An obvious question maybe, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the answer. Duff is predominantly left footed I think, and McGeady seems to be right footed. If they are not, then both of them spend an inordinate amount of time 'cutting in'. You'll never beat a proper international defence cutting in every single time. Why don't they switch wings and attack down the outside. Both of them are capable of beating a man once, and should be able to put in a cross.

I realise that a winger cutting in can have a shot, like McGeady's goal, but that only happens rarely in fairness. Probably more dangerous to have good balls being put into the box from the end line?

Quote from: gallsman on March 28, 2011, 10:09:50 AM

Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2011, 09:24:24 AM
An obvious question maybe, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the answer. Duff is predominantly left footed I think, and McGeady seems to be right footed. If they are not, then both of them spend an inordinate amount of time 'cutting in'. You'll never beat a proper international defence cutting in every single time. Why don't they switch wings and attack down the outside. Both of them are capable of beating a man once, and should be able to put in a cross.

I realise that a winger cutting in can have a shot, like McGeady's goal, but that only happens rarely in fairness. Probably more dangerous to have good balls being put into the box from the end line?

That only works when you have proper goalscorers in the team who can head the ball. Keane is poor in the air and Doyle, for all his workrate and industry, isn't a quality goalscorer.

Leo Messi doesn't do a bad job cutting in from the right wing  ;)

Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2011, 10:51:02 AM

Quote from: gallsman on March 28, 2011, 10:09:50 AM

Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2011, 09:24:24 AM
An obvious question maybe, but I'm not sure I've ever seen the answer. Duff is predominantly left footed I think, and McGeady seems to be right footed. If they are not, then both of them spend an inordinate amount of time 'cutting in'. You'll never beat a proper international defence cutting in every single time. Why don't they switch wings and attack down the outside. Both of them are capable of beating a man once, and should be able to put in a cross.

I realise that a winger cutting in can have a shot, like McGeady's goal, but that only happens rarely in fairness. Probably more dangerous to have good balls being put into the box from the end line?

That only works when you have proper goalscorers in the team who can head the ball. Keane is poor in the air and Doyle, for all his workrate and industry, isn't a quality goalscorer.

Leo Messi doesn't do a bad job cutting in from the right wing  ;)

Doyle is a good header of the ball, and we have more options who can head the ball at least. But every ball in from the wing doesn't need to be for a header, cutbacks on the ground, or crosses low in the 'corridor of uncertainty' are just as dangerous.

Messi plays most of his time in the middle I'd say, he drifts in from the wing and picks the ball up in the centre. That's different to picking the ball up on the wing and *then* cutting inside.

Quote from: Denn Forever on March 28, 2011, 03:07:29 PM
Trappatoni is adventurous.

Republic of Ireland team to play Uruguay in an international friendly at the Aviva Stadium on Tuesday 29 March:

Westwood; Foley, O'Dea, Kelly (capt), Clark; Lawrence, Fahey, Green, McGeady; McCarthy, Long


Kelly to skipper Ireland, McCarthy starts
Monday, 28 March 2011 14:37
Stephen Kelly will captain the Republic of Ireland in tomorrow night's friendly with Uruguay.


The 27-year-old Fulham defender will take over the armband from Robbie Keane who has been released as manager Giovanni Trapattoni takes a look at some of his back-up players.


Kelly, who will win his 21st cap, was an unused substitute in Saturday night's 2-1 Euro 2012 qualifier victory over Macedonia.

Having made his first competitive appearance off the bench against Macedonia, Wigan's James McCarthy will start behind the lone striker Shane Long between Aidan McGeady and Liam Lawrence and in front of Keith Fahey and Paul Green.


Kelly will be in the centre of defence with Ciaran Clark on the left, Darren O'Dea in the centre and Kevin Foley on the right.


Keiren Westwood continues in goal in the absence of Shay Given.

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Quote from: Billys Boots on March 29, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
In fairness Seanie, he probably has an agreement with Ferguson not to play him twice. 

Contrary to the prevailing opinions here, I thought the midfield (Gibson/Whelan) had a decent first half on Saturday, in that they did exactly what the manager instructed them to do, and did it effectively.  The roving #7 gave them problems all night though.

Quote from: muppet on March 29, 2011, 01:00:39 PM

Quote from: Billys Boots on March 29, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
In fairness Seanie, he probably has an agreement with Ferguson not to play him twice. 

Contrary to the prevailing opinions here, I thought the midfield (Gibson/Whelan) had a decent first half on Saturday, in that they did exactly what the manager instructed them to do, and did it effectively.  The roving #7 gave them problems all night though.

Whelan has as much composure as Síle Seoighe at a Kylie concert. He kept passing the ball to the opposition. Sure he wins it back some of the time but a better player won't have to.

Quote from: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 12:38:50 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 01:54:41 PM

Quote from: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 12:38:50 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)

You realise Green is playing do you? Maybe Gibson is useless but he's one of our least useless options.

BB - would really doubt such an agreement is in place. If it was surely he'd have been sent back to Manchester?

Quote from: muppet on March 29, 2011, 01:58:00 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 01:54:41 PM

Quote from: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 12:38:50 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)

You realise Green is playing do you? Maybe Gibson is useless but he's one of our least useless options.

BB - would really doubt such an agreement is in place. If it was surely he'd have been sent back to Manchester?

I love it!

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 01:54:41 PM

Quote from: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 12:38:50 PM

Quote from: magpie seanie on March 29, 2011, 12:31:53 PM
Fair play to Trappatoni. He is really helping Darron Gibson get more games (as he always say Darron needs) by leaving him on the bench tonight. Possibly a better team than the one that played the other night!

Maybe he realised that Gibson is useless and has to look at getting someone else in  ;)

You realise Green is playing do you? Maybe Gibson is useless but he's one of our least useless options.

BB - would really doubt such an agreement is in place. If it was surely he'd have been sent back to Manchester?

Quote from: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 01:37:22 PM
Suarez not in squad, "injured" at the minute.

Quote from: deiseach on March 29, 2011, 02:53:15 PM

Quote from: Bingo on March 29, 2011, 01:37:22 PM
Suarez not in squad, "injured" at the minute.

Good use of quotation marks, the type of "injury" that will clear up the day before Liverpool's next game

Quote from: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

Quote from: Capt Pat on March 29, 2011, 06:06:03 PM

Quote from: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

The home nations games arent pointless freindlies?

Quote from: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

Quote from: Hardy on March 29, 2011, 07:43:56 PM

Quote from: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

What "home" are they talking about?

Quote from: AFS on March 26, 2011, 11:34:22 PM

Quote from: Orangemac on March 26, 2011, 11:06:29 PM
Whelan was shocking tonight. Fahey needs to start with McCarthy in the middle.

Don't know if Dunne wasn't fit but was poor tonight.

3 points in Macedonia would leave Republic in good position. Seem to play better away from home.

Fahey or McCarthy coming into the midfield would improve things. Both would leave a vulnerable back four very exposed. Think Cyprus under Stan.

QuoteDecided to bring the young lad along last night and enjoyed the game (40 euro for both us which I reckon is still about 15 euro too dear).

Quotedid you not go?

Quote from: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 08:14:00 PM

Quote from: Hardy on March 29, 2011, 07:43:56 PM

Quote from: ross4life on March 29, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Why didn't the FAI fix one of the home nations games for today instead of pointless friendly?

What "home" are they talking about?

Isn't played in Dublin where we play the home nations?

Quote from: Hardy on March 30, 2011, 10:47:39 AM
Thanks Declan. So it's just casual cultural imperialism again, in the same vein as "the mainland" and "the Open", etc?

Quote from: Declan on March 30, 2011, 09:44:52 AM

Quotedid you not go?

Didn't make it and got into trouble for organising a "friendly".

Quote from: laoislad on May 24, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

Quote from: AZOffaly on May 24, 2011, 10:05:25 PM
Speaking of that, is Maggie Thatcher the only one of that original list of (your boys took a hell of a beating) still alive?

Quote from: laoislad on May 24, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

Quote from: AZOffaly on May 24, 2011, 10:05:25 PM
Speaking of that, is Maggie Thatcher the only one of that original list of (your boys took a hell of a beating) still alive?

Quote from: laoislad on May 24, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

Quote from: ross4life on May 24, 2011, 10:25:17 PM

Quote from: laoislad on May 24, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

Christ where over run with nordie's on this forum.

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 24, 2011, 10:22:37 PM
Did I hear Gerry Armstrong say in commentary on Sky after Robbie Keane scored his first goal that he was the Republic's David Healy? Praise indeed!

Quote from: ross4life on May 24, 2011, 10:25:17 PM

Quote from: laoislad on May 24, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
O'Neill,Orior,pintsofguinness,Milltown Row 2,new devil,EC Unique,gerry,gawa316,brokencrossbar1,Ziggysego,thewobbler,Banana Man,Hardstation,Ulick,AQMP,Norf Tyrone,gallsman,saffron sam2,fitzroyalty,Puckoon,Lynchbhoy,Gabriel_Hurl,Tony Fearon,Tony Baloney and Minder....................Can you hear me?

YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING TONIGHT.

Christ where over run with nordie's on this forum.

Quote from: thewobbler on May 24, 2011, 10:52:00 PM
International football doesn't have much time left, when two close and bitter rivals can neither attract a crowd nor put on a show.

Quote from: thewobbler on May 24, 2011, 10:52:00 PM
International football doesn't have much time left, when two close and bitter rivals can neither attract a crowd nor put on a show.

Quote from: AZOffaly on May 24, 2011, 10:43:09 PM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 24, 2011, 11:31:47 PM

Quote from: AZOffaly on May 24, 2011, 10:43:09 PM
I'd say they would have played him, he wasn't bad.

I see on OWC they reckon the ROI fans booed the NI anthem, booed Steven Davis, and chanted ooh-ah Up the 'Ra?

GSTQ got a bit of a half-hearted booing alright. Nothing compared to what the Scots or the Welsh give it though. Can't say I noticed any of the others.