A bit quiet on here with the game less than a week away.
How does everyone see this game going?
8 yellows, 3 reds, 2 black (not being racist). Then an injury time winner in extra time from an Armagh player who should have been sent off
Home advantage should be a big help. Can't take Clare for granted good midfielders and forwards.
Actually will be a really tough game, Armagh have not a great record at home but considering where Clare are coming from it is def more of a hindrance for them. Probably evenly matched in fairness and could go the wire this one...Draw? Looking forward to it TBH...Win this and get that Laois dirt would be good
Tis Klare
On paper Clare would be the better side but being at home at 3pm on a Saturday must be a big advantage for Armagh. I can't imagine Clare will have any more than a couple of hundred supporters whilst Armagh will have a big support and in a tight contest, that could be the difference.
Folks, is there any chat of any of the u20s being involved on Saturday. Most notably, mcquillan, Duffy or O'Neill.
Better anywhere than the Athletic Grounds. Maybe SKY would consider Armagh Clare instead of Kildare Mayo in Croke Park?
Quote from: regal on June 25, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Folks, is there any chat of any of the u20s being involved on Saturday. Most notably, mcquillan, Duffy or O'Neill.
No, they're not on the senior panel so will not be available for selection.
Quote from: illdecide on June 25, 2018, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: regal on June 25, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Folks, is there any chat of any of the u20s being involved on Saturday. Most notably, mcquillan, Duffy or O'Neill.
No, they're not on the senior panel so will not be available for selection.
Baffling if true.
We lack a cutting edge up front. You would think having these lads available for a cameo at the very least or to have a look at them in training to see how they cut it should not be ruled out?
Will ArmaghDieselTV be charging people £5 again to listen to Fearon but not actually see anything while the screen buffers for 70 mins? ;D
Quote from: under the bar on June 25, 2018, 09:48:12 PM
Will ArmaghDieselTV be charging people £5 again to listen to Fearon but not actually see anything while the screen buffers for 70 mins? ;D
No
Quote from: under the bar on June 25, 2018, 09:48:12 PM
Will ArmaghDieselTV be charging people £5 again to listen to Fearon but not actually see anything while the screen buffers for 70 mins? ;D
Not ArmaghTVs fault you have sh
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te Internet in Tyrone.
I imagine attention in Clare will be on hurling this weekend and few will travel. However, Armagh have not seen much of a home advantage of late.
Armagh tiddling along nicely. Another win on the cards here. If they draw say Laois in the next round, the Super 8s is a real possibility. That is a scary thought given their performance against Fermanagh.
Quote from: illdecide on June 25, 2018, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: regal on June 25, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Folks, is there any chat of any of the u20s being involved on Saturday. Most notably, mcquillan, Duffy or O'Neill.
No, they're not on the senior panel so will not be available for selection.
Not sure about that illdecide, is that a rule? I heard that Ross McQuillan was drafted into the senior panel last night.
Quote from: mackers on June 26, 2018, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 25, 2018, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: regal on June 25, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Folks, is there any chat of any of the u20s being involved on Saturday. Most notably, mcquillan, Duffy or O'Neill.
No, they're not on the senior panel so will not be available for selection.
Not sure about that illdecide, is that a rule? I heard that Ross McQuillan was drafted into the senior panel last night.
there is a rule that you can't play underage if you played senior championship. But it doesn't go the other way
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
Hey lads, where would be best to park for this game?
Should be up there an hour or 2 before throw in and might get some grub in also
Quote from: Roashter on June 26, 2018, 08:38:30 PM
Hey lads, where would be best to park for this game?
Should be up there an hour or 2 before throw in and might get some grub in also
If you are coming from the Dublin side and the Newry road, go left and turn into the car park behind St Malachy's (https://goo.gl/maps/GiqvUbNoVJ82) and then walk alongside the church, then left. There would be more parked around there on a Saturday than the usual Sunday.
Or the City Hotel across the road if you are early, they'd feed you for a fee.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 26, 2018, 08:56:33 PM
Quote from: Roashter on June 26, 2018, 08:38:30 PM
Hey lads, where would be best to park for this game?
Should be up there an hour or 2 before throw in and might get some grub in also
If you are coming from the Dublin side and the Newry road, go left and turn into the car park behind St Malachy's (https://goo.gl/maps/GiqvUbNoVJ82) and then walk alongside the church, then left. There would be more parked around there on a Saturday than the usual Sunday.
Or the City Hotel across the road if you are early, they'd feed you for a fee.
Thanks armaghniac
Quote from: Roashter on June 26, 2018, 08:38:30 PM
Hey lads, where would be best to park for this game?
Should be up there an hour or 2 before throw in and might get some grub in also
If you Park at back of St Malachy's go through front gates, turn right for 30 yards and you will be at Keegan's.....great food and 3 min walk to ground.
Quote from: our_fella on June 26, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
Is he not still injured?
Quote from: our_fella on June 26, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
That is the team we should go with and 1-14 probably the team we will go with. Even if fit Gavin's issue in replacing Oisin (McIllieembeherr according to the Markievicz Park announcer) is MacIomhair played as a marker in the half back line against Sligo. Would love to see us going with more fire power.
Anybody thinking of keeping their money in their pocket if Kildare get shafted?
I know I would be annoyed if that happened to armagh and the rest of the country carried on as if nothing was wrong
Quote from: smelmoth on June 26, 2018, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: our_fella on June 26, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
That is the team we should go with and 1-14 probably the team we will go with. Even if fit Gavin's issue in replacing Oisin (McIllieembeherr according to the Markievicz Park announcer) is MacIomhair played as a marker in the half back line against Sligo. Would love to see us going with more fire power.
Anybody thinking of keeping their money in their pocket if Kildare get shafted?
I know I would be annoyed if that happened to armagh and the rest of the country carried on as if nothing was wrong
Joining in with a Kildare chant at half time possibly. Not going to match - unlikely as I have a season ticket and Croke Park will already have my money !
Quote from: mackers on June 26, 2018, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 25, 2018, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: regal on June 25, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Folks, is there any chat of any of the u20s being involved on Saturday. Most notably, mcquillan, Duffy or O'Neill.
No, they're not on the senior panel so will not be available for selection.
Not sure about that illdecide, is that a rule? I heard that Ross McQuillan was drafted into the senior panel last night.
Hope you're right Mackers...there are a few tasty footballers on that U20 team. They weren't on the senior panel as of last week thats why i said what i said but if any are drafted in then that would be great
Quote from: Throw ball on June 26, 2018, 10:04:15 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 26, 2018, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: our_fella on June 26, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
That is the team we should go with and 1-14 probably the team we will go with. Even if fit Gavin's issue in replacing Oisin (McIllieembeherr according to the Markievicz Park announcer) is MacIomhair played as a marker in the half back line against Sligo. Would love to see us going with more fire power.
Anybody thinking of keeping their money in their pocket if Kildare get shafted?
I know I would be annoyed if that happened to armagh and the rest of the country carried on as if nothing was wrong
Joining in with a Kildare chant at half time possibly. Not going to match - unlikely as I have a season ticket and Croke Park will already have my money !
Can you not opt out per game?
Quote from: Stan Laurel on June 26, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: our_fella on June 26, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
Is he not still injured?
Came on against West neath and was warming up v sligo
Quote from: Stan Laurel on June 27, 2018, 06:59:17 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on June 26, 2018, 10:04:15 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 26, 2018, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: our_fella on June 26, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
That is the team we should go with and 1-14 probably the team we will go with. Even if fit Gavin's issue in replacing Oisin (McIllieembeherr according to the Markievicz Park announcer) is MacIomhair played as a marker in the half back line against Sligo. Would love to see us going with more fire power.
Anybody thinking of keeping their money in their pocket if Kildare get shafted?
I know I would be annoyed if that happened to armagh and the rest of the country carried on as if nothing was wrong
Joining in with a Kildare chant at half time possibly. Not going to match - unlikely as I have a season ticket and Croke Park will already have my money !
Can you not opt out per game?
Cut off last night.
Quote from: illdecide on June 27, 2018, 12:28:06 AM
Quote from: mackers on June 26, 2018, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 25, 2018, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: regal on June 25, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Folks, is there any chat of any of the u20s being involved on Saturday. Most notably, mcquillan, Duffy or O'Neill.
No, they're not on the senior panel so will not be available for selection.
Not sure about that illdecide, is that a rule? I heard that Ross McQuillan was drafted into the senior panel last night.
Hope you're right Mackers...there are a few tasty footballers on that U20 team. They weren't on the senior panel as of last week thats why i said what i said but if any are drafted in then that would be great
The U20 lads can play.
The rule is that if you play for the seniors in the championship at any stage you can't step back down to the U20.
No rule stopping U20 lads stepping up, just that they can't drop down and play U20 again in the same year.
With Armagh U20s done for the year, the lads are free to step up.
Clare U20s are in the same situation so could well see draftees on both sides.
Banner boss Colm Collins hits out at Clare's senseless away day
The rule which dictated the Clare footballers lose home advantage to Armagh despite being first out of the hat "doesn't make any sense", according to Banner boss Colm Collins.
Clare were pitted against Kieran McGeeney's side in Monday's third round qualifier draw, the game fixed for Armagh's Athletic Grounds owing to the stipulation that Division 3/4 counties shall receive home advantage if drawn against a team from the league's top two tiers.
Clare finished third in Division 2 and they'll be joined by Armagh in the league's second tier next year, the Orchard County finishing the spring as Division 3 champions.
"We were happy to be in the pot after coming through a really difficult game with Offaly, but it was only afterwards that you think about it and say, God almighty, who thought this one out. You have a team in the same division as us next year and they get home advantage. It doesn't make any sense," said Collins.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 28, 2018, 12:28:19 AM
Banner boss Colm Collins hits out at Clare's senseless away day
The rule which dictated the Clare footballers lose home advantage to Armagh despite being first out of the hat "doesn't make any sense", according to Banner boss Colm Collins.
Clare were pitted against Kieran McGeeney's side in Monday's third round qualifier draw, the game fixed for Armagh's Athletic Grounds owing to the stipulation that Division 3/4 counties shall receive home advantage if drawn against a team from the league's top two tiers.
Clare finished third in Division 2 and they'll be joined by Armagh in the league's second tier next year, the Orchard County finishing the spring as Division 3 champions.
"We were happy to be in the pot after coming through a really difficult game with Offaly, but it was only afterwards that you think about it and say, God almighty, who thought this one out. You have a team in the same division as us next year and they get home advantage. It doesn't make any sense," said Collins.
I'd been thinking this exactly. There's no way Armagh v Clare should be regarded as a weaker county v a stronger county! Rule needs tweaking...
Quote from: Hound on June 28, 2018, 06:59:20 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 28, 2018, 12:28:19 AM
Banner boss Colm Collins hits out at Clare's senseless away day
The rule which dictated the Clare footballers lose home advantage to Armagh despite being first out of the hat "doesn't make any sense", according to Banner boss Colm Collins.
Clare were pitted against Kieran McGeeney's side in Monday's third round qualifier draw, the game fixed for Armagh's Athletic Grounds owing to the stipulation that Division 3/4 counties shall receive home advantage if drawn against a team from the league's top two tiers.
Clare finished third in Division 2 and they'll be joined by Armagh in the league's second tier next year, the Orchard County finishing the spring as Division 3 champions.
"We were happy to be in the pot after coming through a really difficult game with Offaly, but it was only afterwards that you think about it and say, God almighty, who thought this one out. You have a team in the same division as us next year and they get home advantage. It doesn't make any sense," said Collins.
I'd been thinking this exactly. There's no way Armagh v Clare should be regarded as a weaker county v a stronger county! Rule needs tweaking...
It's worked out in our favour but I don't agree with the rule either. First out should be at home and that's that.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 28, 2018, 08:29:15 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 28, 2018, 06:59:20 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 28, 2018, 12:28:19 AM
Banner boss Colm Collins hits out at Clare's senseless away day
The rule which dictated the Clare footballers lose home advantage to Armagh despite being first out of the hat "doesn't make any sense", according to Banner boss Colm Collins.
Clare were pitted against Kieran McGeeney's side in Monday's third round qualifier draw, the game fixed for Armagh's Athletic Grounds owing to the stipulation that Division 3/4 counties shall receive home advantage if drawn against a team from the league's top two tiers.
Clare finished third in Division 2 and they'll be joined by Armagh in the league's second tier next year, the Orchard County finishing the spring as Division 3 champions.
"We were happy to be in the pot after coming through a really difficult game with Offaly, but it was only afterwards that you think about it and say, God almighty, who thought this one out. You have a team in the same division as us next year and they get home advantage. It doesn't make any sense," said Collins.
I'd been thinking this exactly. There's no way Armagh v Clare should be regarded as a weaker county v a stronger county! Rule needs tweaking...
It's worked out in our favour but I don't agree with the rule either. First out should be at home and that's that.
Should be a separation of 2 divisions to alter home advantage.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 27, 2018, 08:49:59 AM
Quote from: Stan Laurel on June 26, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: our_fella on June 26, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
Is he not still injured?
Came on against West neath and was warming up v sligo
Saw him warming up but his mum told me he had no chance of coming on and wasn't too optimistic if they beat Sligo either that he would play.
Quote from: Stan Laurel on June 28, 2018, 09:06:02 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 27, 2018, 08:49:59 AM
Quote from: Stan Laurel on June 26, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: our_fella on June 26, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
What do we see the team being? I'd go with
Hughes
Burns - McKay - McCabe
Shields - Donaghy - Forker
Vernon - Sheridan
McShane - Hall - Grimley
Grugan - Murnin - McParland
Is he not still injured?
Came on against West neath and was warming up v sligo
Saw him warming up but his mum told me he had no chance of coming on and wasn't too optimistic if they beat Sligo either that he would play.
Poses more questions than it answers that one.
He is the lad from the AI minors that has stuck with the county set up the longest, one of the best club players in the county but at inter county level doesn't seem to get the breaks or the backing. A few injuries don't help
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 28, 2018, 08:29:15 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 28, 2018, 06:59:20 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 28, 2018, 12:28:19 AM
Banner boss Colm Collins hits out at Clare's senseless away day
The rule which dictated the Clare footballers lose home advantage to Armagh despite being first out of the hat "doesn't make any sense", according to Banner boss Colm Collins.
Clare were pitted against Kieran McGeeney's side in Monday's third round qualifier draw, the game fixed for Armagh's Athletic Grounds owing to the stipulation that Division 3/4 counties shall receive home advantage if drawn against a team from the league's top two tiers.
Clare finished third in Division 2 and they'll be joined by Armagh in the league's second tier next year, the Orchard County finishing the spring as Division 3 champions.
"We were happy to be in the pot after coming through a really difficult game with Offaly, but it was only afterwards that you think about it and say, God almighty, who thought this one out. You have a team in the same division as us next year and they get home advantage. It doesn't make any sense," said Collins.
I'd been thinking this exactly. There's no way Armagh v Clare should be regarded as a weaker county v a stronger county! Rule needs tweaking...
It's worked out in our favour but I don't agree with the rule either. First out should be at home and that's that.
I agree with rule. You could argue that it should be based upon next years league rather than this and say making Cavan play Down in the marshes but there will always be quirks around the bottom of Division 2/top of Division 3 but they are worth living with for a rule that can take some of the bigger boys into Dungarvan, Carrick on Shannon, Aughrim, Carlow, Longford etc.
No teams named yet? Has the tradionally Thursday night team selection been done away with?
Will the hot weather this weekewnd suit the fitter elite teams, the last 10 mins should be interesting in this weekends games when players tire in the heat. Will we see more goals and mistakes?
Looking forward to the game anyway...Armagh by 1pt (I think)
Start or finish with strongest team? Eg Grimley / Sheridan / McParland
Couple of things I hate about this home and away advantage for division 3 and 4 teams. If Louth were drawn out 1st against Armagh, Armagh would have home advantage due to being a perceived "weaker" team based on league.
My biggest gripe though is if Donegal went out in round 1 of Ulster they could in theory get waterford, Wexford and wicklow/carlow in qualifiers and have to be away to them each week, how is it fair to ask a team and especially supporters make them journeys week after week. It's a ridiculous rule. Same as the Newbridge saga, if you're in the qualifiers it should be purely luck of the draw
I know where you're all coming from and Armagh have benefited from it this time but more than likely the shoe will be on the other foot this time next year so i'm not getting too excited about it.
Everyone knew the craic ages ago but it's only when a secnario pops up like the Armagh one where everyone's getting their knickers in a twist, the rules were there and we all knew what was happening...just get on with it, like i said it'll work itself out and I'm sure Armagh will get the other end of the stick next season or the season after...
Last thing, wouldn't have cared less if i had to travel to Ennis tomorrow for the game. In fact would have prefered it tbh.
Quote from: tippabu on June 29, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
Couple of things I hate about this home and away advantage for division 3 and 4 teams. If Louth were drawn out 1st against Armagh, Armagh would have home advantage due to being a perceived "weaker" team based on league.
My biggest gripe though is if Donegal went out in round 1 of Ulster they could in theory get waterford, Wexford and wicklow/carlow in qualifiers and have to be away to them each week, how is it fair to ask a team and especially supporters make them journeys week after week. It's a ridiculous rule. Same as the Newbridge saga, if you're in the qualifiers it should be purely luck of the draw
I disagree
That draw would be unlucky rather than unfair.
An only unlucky in the location of the game which is more than compensated by the sheer luck of getting that passage through the qualifiers
The way it should be done is to alternate between home advantage.
In the first round of the qualifiers home advantage is determined by who is drawn out first.
For the second round onwards home advantage should be given to the team who played away in round 1. If both teams played away then if the teams played against each other in the championship before (Lets say within the last 10 years) the away team last time should be given home advantage. For example, let's say Westmeath and Armagh faced each other in the next round, Armagh should be given home advantage instead of Westmeath as they had it last season.
Who says it has to be fair? Luck of the draw?
Since 2016, inc tomorrow, we'll have played 9 qualifiers... 2 at home. So quit your yapping.
Quote from: our_fella on June 29, 2018, 12:57:27 PM
Since 2016, inc tomorrow, we'll have played 9 qualifiers... 2 at home. So quit your yapping.
Case closed...
I don't see much advantage for Armagh playing in the Athletic Grounds, they've hardly made it a fortress over recent years. Big advantage is obviously for the supporters and the distance and cost of travelling.
I predict a very close edgy affair, with it in the balance till the end. Heat is going to have a major factor. For the Clare lads, I assume the team will travel north this evening, wouldnt want that journey on the day of a match?
Armagh 0-21
Clare 1-19
Armagh 1-15
Clare 0-17
The heat factor is gonna be massive. Hopefully we can deal with it best and scrape over the line
Armagh 2-12
Clare 1-13
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 29, 2018, 02:46:11 PM
The heat factor is gonna be massive. Hopefully we can deal with it best and scrape over the line
Armagh 2-12
Clare 1-13
Discipline too
Frees can be easy scores and a red card in the heat is a disaster. It has to be a day to make the ball do the work
Are we not bothering naming a team?
Armagh 2-15
Clare 3-11
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 29, 2018, 09:33:29 PM
Are we not bothering naming a team?
Jasus someone must know it as they'd have had to give one in for match programme
Armagh to win by 3 or 4 points I reckon.
http://armaghgaa.net/football/armagh-team-v-clare/
Armagh by 3
Unfortunately Rafferty and Mc Parland injuresd
But team taking shape
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 29, 2018, 11:15:19 PM
http://armaghgaa.net/football/armagh-team-v-clare/
Here is a prediction. I know it sounds crazy but that team might start
Huge responsibility on Murnin and if Clare put extra defenders around him then a big responsibility on management to have a Plan B and on the players to execute it
Quote from: smelmoth on June 30, 2018, 07:33:11 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 29, 2018, 11:15:19 PM
http://armaghgaa.net/football/armagh-team-v-clare/
Here is a prediction. I know it sounds crazy but that team might start
Huge responsibility on Murnin and if Clare put extra defenders around him then a big responsibility on management to have a Plan B and on the players to execute it
Think there was only one change in Sligo last week from the team named in the match programme so it shouldn't be far away
What time is this game on today?
3pm throw in
9 points to 7 in favour of Clare at half time.
Clare with a two point lead at the break. Armagh will have to step it up 2nd half if they are to win this game.
We'd need a big improvement in the second half or we're out on our ears... HT 0-7 - 0-9 to Clare. Clare def don't have to work as hard to get their scores and unless Clare blow up in the second half they'll be deserving winners
Made a balls of that wind advantage. Long ball should have been up to the half forwards and played forker in there. If Minnie or Hall were in the Ff line picking up anything that slipped through Clare would have been in trouble
Clare well worth their lead. Big improvement needed from Armagh if we are to win
Doesn't look good for Armagh, Clare look like they are going to step up the intensity
Clare 5 ahead Armagh look beaten already.
Armagh goal against the run of play!
Clare three points ahead with nine minutes left they are good value for that lead.
Too many players dropping off the panel over the last few seasons and this is the result along with a very dull approach to games. There is a serious lack of creativity and energy in this Armagh squad.
Penalty to Clare. When Armagh brought it back to a one point game.
Clare goal from the rebound. They are four points ahead.
Goal for Armagh some drama!
Armagh lead 2-14 to 1-15. into injury time
All over Armagh 2-16 Clare 1-15 unbelievable Jeff!
Quote from: Solo_run on June 30, 2018, 04:28:06 PM
Too many players dropping off the panel over the last few seasons and this is the result along with a very dull approach to games. There is a serious lack of creativity and energy in this Armagh squad.
Well...
Fantastic from Armagh in the last ten. I had given up after the penalty
Very exciting conclusion. Great job by the Clare FM commentary team for maintaining the thrill throughout. Thought we were done after Grimley missed the close-in point. Clare seemed to take terrific points while we hit wide after wide, but goaling after the PK was amazing. Was on the edge of my seat.
No more than Tipp, Clare are well known for their second half collapses at this stage. I'd temper any Armagh optimism stemming from that comeback.
Syferus
Trust me with five minutes to go we would have taken anything.
Season still alive
Armagh aren't a great side but they sure had some heart to pluck the victory.
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 05:09:25 PM
No more than Tipp, Clare are well known for their second half collapses at this stage. I'd temper any Armagh optimism stemming from that comeback.
Second half collapse? They outscored Armagh from the 35th to 66th minute. It was a 6/7 minute collapse if anything.
Quote from: shark on June 30, 2018, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 05:09:25 PM
No more than Tipp, Clare are well known for their second half collapses at this stage. I'd temper any Armagh optimism stemming from that comeback.
Second half collapse? They outscored Armagh from the 35th to 66th minute. It was a 6/7 minute collapse if anything.
Is the final 6/7 minutes not in the second half now? When did the rules change?
For Armagh it's a good result regardless given the position they were in. People forget they made the AIQFs last year too.
Some finish by Armagh , 1-5 gan freagra as Seafóidín might say.
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 05:09:25 PM
No more than Tipp, Clare are well known for their second half collapses at this stage. I'd temper any Armagh optimism stemming from that comeback.
A Roscommon man tempering optimism following a facile win. lol
As many people have already commented on this site, he's a real fun guy who'd give away party a lift. Great result in the sun. Athletic Grounds looking good
Some very sloppy play by Armagh to end up behind, missing 20m frees, ridiculous wides, hospital passes, and dropping the ball in the square before the penalty. But great heart shown at the end, this is almost on a par with the Fermanagh game in 1993. The home advantage, which Clare whined about, had little enough effect on most of Armagh's play but the imbalance in the crowd may have assisted the comeback.
I hope all Clare visitors had a warm welcome in sunny Armagh and that they get a Munster hurling title as a consolation.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2018, 06:32:22 PM
Some very sloppy play by Armagh to end up behind, missing 20m frees, ridiculous wides, hospital passes, and dropping the ball in the square before the penalty. But great heart shown at the end, this is almost on a par with the Fermanagh game in 1993. The home advantage, which Clare whined about, had little enough effect on most of Armagh's play but the imbalance in the crowd may have assisted the comeback.
I hope all Clare visitors had a warm welcome in sunny Armagh and that they get a Munster hurling title as a consolation.
Did Armagh go to plan B or did the penalty give them a kick up the hole?
Never seen that coming tbh. Clare were the better team and got their scores easier. In saying all that Armagh had some terrible wides and even missed a 13m free but the last few minutes was something else and I'd say the happiest man there will be young Ryan Owens who came on with 10 mins to go and gave a goal and pt away... Big big escape
Sympathy for Clare. They played the better football. By a distance the best team we have played this year. But the boys dub deep in those last 10. They pushed up and went positive. The substitution of the keeper was the turning point. Clare struggled to get out of their half on his kick outs
Stunning last 10
Grugan and Murnin worth special mentions
You can question the quality at times but credit both sides who came to play football and served up the best game of football I've seen all year.
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No more than Tipp, Clare are well known for their second half collapses at this stage. I'd temper any Armagh optimism stemming from that comeback.
Second half collapse? They outscored Armagh from the 35th to 66th minute. It was a 6/7 minute collapse if anything.
Is the final 6/7 minutes not in the second half now? When did the rules change?
For Armagh it's a good result regardless given the position they were in. People forget they made the AIQFs last year too.
The second half is part of the entire game, so why not saw an entire game collapse? Because it wouldn't paint an accurate picture of what happened. Just like your comment.
Fair play to McGeeney and his troops. Very solid down the stretch.
Quote from: smelmoth on June 30, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Sympathy for Clare. They played the better football. By a distance the best team we have played this year. But the boys dub deep in those last 10. They pushed up and went positive. The substitution of the keeper was the turning point. Clare struggled to get out of their half on his kick outs
Stunning last 10
Grugan and Murnin worth special mentions
Clare played the more efficient football, with an ability to slot over a point from 30m, although they also had a few bad misses. However, you can see how they have got some good scores. Armagh did well enough throughout the game but didn't always get the scores that should have followed. The Clare goal did give Armagh a kick up the ars
e and perhaps Clare wilted a bit in the heat, like my garden.
On the basis of that display today - if Armagh make the super 8s they will be absolute cannon fodder to the likes of Dublin/ Donegal/ Kerry / Galway / Monaghan/ Tyrone
I don't think they will make the last 8 - unless they get Fermanagh again
I'd fancy Cork/ Roscommon/ Laois to beat them. Very average.
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 30, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
On the basis of that display today - if Armagh make the super 8s they will be absolute cannon fodder to the likes of Dublin/ Donegal/ Kerry / Galway / Monaghan/ Tyrone
I don't think they will make the last 8 - unless they get Fermanagh again
I'd fancy Cork/ Roscommon/ Laois to beat them. Very average.
Well they can't meet Fermanagh so in your words then they've no chance, none at all. Shouldn't even turn up, maybe KMcG will call them and tell them not to put the name in for the draw on Monday morning ::)
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 30, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
On the basis of that display today - if Armagh make the super 8s they will be absolute cannon fodder to the likes of Dublin/ Donegal/ Kerry / Galway / Monaghan/ Tyrone
I don't think they will make the last 8 - unless they get Fermanagh again
I'd fancy Cork/ Roscommon/ Laois to beat them. Very average.
Why were you at the Armagh game and not the Tyrone one?
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 30, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
On the basis of that display today - if Armagh make the super 8s they will be absolute cannon fodder to the likes of Dublin/ Donegal/ Kerry / Galway / Monaghan/ Tyrone
I don't think they will make the last 8 - unless they get Fermanagh again
I'd fancy Cork/ Roscommon/ Laois to beat them. Very average.
Oh, the bitterness oozing out of this post!
Quote from: illdecide on June 30, 2018, 09:41:27 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 30, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
On the basis of that display today - if Armagh make the super 8s they will be absolute cannon fodder to the likes of Dublin/ Donegal/ Kerry / Galway / Monaghan/ Tyrone
I don't think they will make the last 8 - unless they get Fermanagh again
I'd fancy Cork/ Roscommon/ Laois to beat them. Very average.
Well they can't meet Fermanagh so in your words then they've no chance, none at all. Shouldn't even turn up, maybe KMcG will call them and tell them not to put the name in for the draw on Monday morning ::)
I thought repeat pairings could happen in round 4?
Quote from: sam03/05 on June 30, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
On the basis of that display today - if Armagh make the super 8s they will be absolute cannon fodder to the likes of Dublin/ Donegal/ Kerry / Galway / Monaghan/ Tyrone
I don't think they will make the last 8 - unless they get Fermanagh again
I'd fancy Cork/ Roscommon/ Laois to beat them. Very average.
The orchard isn't wilting
Fk off back to Tyrone
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Quote from: sam03/05 on June 30, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
On the basis of that display today - if Armagh make the super 8s they will be absolute cannon fodder to the likes of Dublin/ Donegal/ Kerry / Galway / Monaghan/ Tyrone
I don't think they will make the last 8 - unless they get Fermanagh again
I'd fancy Cork/ Roscommon/ Laois to beat them. Very average.
Well they can't meet Fermanagh so in your words then they've no chance, none at all. Shouldn't even turn up, maybe KMcG will call them and tell them not to put the name in for the draw on Monday morning ::)
I thought repeat pairings could happen in round 4?
Nope. We can't get fermanagh. There was one last year because down had played. It's us and Monaghan so there had to be a repeat pairing
Do not underestimate the effect of the heat. It was very hot sitting in the stand never mind playing a game at high tempo. The effects of dehydration were evident in the brain freezes and poor execution of simple skills in the last 20 minutes.
Loss of Clare goalkeeper was a factor. He was their sub and third choice came on and had a torrid time.
Referee was poor enough, hopefully should have a higher standard next day out.
Geezer complaining about people leaving early. Did many leave? I didn't notice any. The 2 rows in front of me where people there for the hurling and I could completely understand them trying to beat the traffic but they stayed.
Went to the game worried about where the scores would come from but happy with the defence apart from the age old difficulty to coping with runners from deep. In the end we dug out the scores but the defence looked creaky. For the first 50 mins Clare's possessions to scoring rate must have been incredible. We seemed to struggle. Burns is the only one in the FB line with the pace for the job
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Geezer complaining about people leaving early. Did many leave? I didn't notice any. The 2 rows in front of me where people there for the hurling and I could completely understand them trying to beat the traffic but they stayed.
Went to the game worried about where the scores would come from but happy with the defence apart from the age old difficulty to coping with runners from deep. In the end we dug out the scores but the defence looked creaky. For the first 50 mins Clare's possessions to scoring rate must have been incredible. We seemed to struggle. Burns is the only one in the FB line with the pace for the job
A guy beside me left anyway. When they went 5 up so he left very early
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Quote from: smelmoth on July 01, 2018, 08:47:00 AM
Geezer complaining about people leaving early. Did many leave? I didn't notice any. The 2 rows in front of me where people there for the hurling and I could completely understand them trying to beat the traffic but they stayed.
Went to the game worried about where the scores would come from but happy with the defence apart from the age old difficulty to coping with runners from deep. In the end we dug out the scores but the defence looked creaky. For the first 50 mins Clare's possessions to scoring rate must have been incredible. We seemed to struggle. Burns is the only one in the FB line with the pace for the job
A guy beside me left anyway. When they went 5 up so he left very early
Hope that wasn't me tonto ;)...I left a few mins early but only to make my way to the other side of the ground, i seen a few of the club men behind the goal so still seen all the game as walking around
Good win. The spirit shown by the players was excellent with the likes of Grugan and Grimley really standing up when it counted despite having an iffy enough game up to that point. Fair play to Geezer for sending on the young lads instead of some of the players who have been around for a long time and haven't really cut it. I've said it before if any team goes toe to toe with Armagh we have a chance. Clare came to play football with no massed defence. We can play some nice football with the first time ball into the attack not quite working in the first half. The wide tally is an obvious concern.
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Quote from: smelmoth on July 01, 2018, 08:47:00 AM
Geezer complaining about people leaving early. Did many leave? I didn't notice any. The 2 rows in front of me where people there for the hurling and I could completely understand them trying to beat the traffic but they stayed.
Went to the game worried about where the scores would come from but happy with the defence apart from the age old difficulty to coping with runners from deep. In the end we dug out the scores but the defence looked creaky. For the first 50 mins Clare's possessions to scoring rate must have been incredible. We seemed to struggle. Burns is the only one in the FB line with the pace for the job
A guy beside me left anyway. When they went 5 up so he left very early
Hope that wasn't me tonto ;)...I left a few mins early but only to make my way to the other side of the ground, i seen a few of the club men behind the goal so still seen all the game as walking around
Unless you didn't know what a mark was and hadn't been to a game in ages then it wasn't you mate