Val Andrews/Terry Hyland OUT

[onefaircounty]

Love listening to McGeeney after games. I think someone with a character like his is the only way we will see our situation improve. Seems to be no discipline with out lads at all...Kildare had plenty of problems with player commitment and that in previous years but he seems to have them on the straight and narrow now and well organsed.

I'm sure he wouldn't come within an arses roar of the Cavan team though...

But maybe his assistant would.

Aidan O Rourke???
Id like to see that happen,but its too sensible of a suggestion for the Cavan County Board.

Possibly, i'm sure he'll want to branch out on his own at some stage and could be a  good match.

[liihb]

Why was Andrews brought back anyway? Since Tralee IT where he was successful, he's never made any fist of any team he's been involved with, be it Cavan, Louth, Dub minors?

Comes across as a nice guy alright, but can't understand what Cavan were doing re-appointing him

[Breffni_Yank]

No harm but I think that anybody who takes this job on needs his head examined.

They will just take all the blame for not succeeding with a team of bad-average players.

There is no way O'Rourke will want anything to do with this, possibly the worst job in Gaelic Football.

I'd agree with you. Don't know why anyone in their right mind woud take the job.

You have to be bonkers or really fancy a challenge!

[seafoid]

possibly the worst job in Gaelic Football.

Fermanagh, Monaghan and Sligo would give Cavan a run for their money. 

[unitedireland]

Now there better than our lot. I listened alot to Andrews recently he's a dub but seems to know abit. Hes a sports leature also so should have a notion

[seafoid]

Now there better than our lot. I listened alot to Andrews recently he's a dub but seems to know abit. Hes a sports leature also so should have a notion

Yes, they are better than your players that will play under O'Neill but not if you had your full hand, imo.

I would rather be a new manager coming into Fermanagh than Cavan.

Same for Monaghan or Sligo.

Cavan have those under 21s and Sligo have Sligo Rovers. 

[BallyhaiseMan]

Now there better than our lot. I listened alot to Andrews recently he's a dub but seems to know abit. Hes a sports leature also so should have a notion

Yes, they are better than your players that will play under O'Neill but not if you had your full hand, imo.

I would rather be a new manager coming into Fermanagh than Cavan.

Same for Monaghan or Sligo.

Thats debateable whether a full strength Fermanagh side are better than us, HS
Cavan are 2-1 in the last 3 meetings in league and championship since the summer of 2009.
The reality is however,Fermanaghs problem will be fixed when O Neil gets discarded with,
When their full contingent return under their new management,they will walk Division 4 and be incontention for a Division 3 title within 2 years and be much improved in championship.
I have a terrible feeling that this Cavan management duo will be kept on,and they will drag us down to where the Fermanagh  C team  are right now, into the lower ends of Division 4.

[lynchbhoy]

well the Cavan co board along with kildare were the richest at one stage, possibly still are.
The Dublin 15 Cavan association used to raise huge funds for the cavan county side and I'd say they are still around doing the same.
While it was mentioned earlier on this year or late last year as a joke, I think in reality, Mick O'Dwyer could be the ideal man to 'cure the blues'

[BallyhaiseMan]

Now there better than our lot. I listened alot to Andrews recently he's a dub but seems to know abit. Hes a sports leature also so should have a notion

Yes, they are better than your players that will play under O'Neill but not if you had your full hand, imo.

I would rather be a new manager coming into Fermanagh than Cavan.

Same for Monaghan or Sligo.

Thats debateable whether a full strength Fermanagh side are better than us, HS
Cavan are 2-1 in the last 3 meetings in league and championship since the summer of 2009.
The reality is however,Fermanaghs problem will be fixed when O Neil gets discarded with,
When their full contingent return under their new management,they will walk Division 4 and be incontention for a Division 3 title within 2 years and be much improved in championship.
I have a terrible feeling that this Cavan management duo will be kept on,and they will drag us down to where the Fermanagh  C team  are right now, into the lower ends of Division 4.

I totally agree with the 1st part regarding Fermanagh, which was my point. It would be much easier to come in there as a manager.

As regards yourselves, I reckon that yis are headed for the shit heap no matter who is at the helm.

Our last decent manager Marty McElkennon got us to the last 12 in 2005,
Since he left in 2006, we have gotten progressively worse each year.
Its no suprise that our management teams have gotten worse each year aswell,
Keoghan-Carr-now this duo.
We are presently about Number 28-29 in the country when it comes to football.
We arent talking about All Irelands or Ulster Titles here,just improvement over this shambles right now.

[BallyhaiseMan]

well the Cavan co board along with kildare were the richest at one stage, possibly still are.
The Dublin 15 Cavan association used to raise huge funds for the cavan county side and I'd say they are still around doing the same.
While it was mentioned earlier on this year or late last year as a joke, I think in reality, Mick O'Dwyer could be the ideal man to 'cure the blues'

We would take Micko in a heartbeat.

[BallyhaiseMan]

Keoghan was a strange one. If I remember right, there were just loads of rumours about pub lock ins etc. He did, however, have yis playing at the level yis were at, imo. He got Cavan promoted and you beat us handy in the championship before he was binned. Is that right?

Then Carr was to be the saviour.....
Then Andrews...

Who next?

Remember that 2005 was a long time ago.

You're correct HS, we did get promotion under Keoghan.
We beat Cork in Division 2,and were competitive in every game,albeit we got relegated back to Division 3.
The problem with Keoghans regime as you have alluded to were the drinking binges and the pub lock-ins.
He actually had good backroom teams both years
Year 1. Paul Grimley/Julie Davis
Year 2. Conal Sheridan
If he could have controlled those squad problems with regards to drink,well who knows he might still be manager.

[Orangemac]

Can the problem in Cavan continually be the manager? They may have had some poor ones but 1 Ulster title in 40 odd years suggests a greter problem.

I know Monaghan have slipped back a bit this year but up untl 5/6 years ago there would have been very little between Cavan & Monaghan. Monaghan seemed to go up a few levels whether it was management or underage structures bearing fruit.

Are the 25 best players in Monaghan better than the 25 best in Cavan?

There does seem to be a bit of a 1970s culture about Cavan football,it doesn't seem to have entered the 21st century. There's still a bit of a "We have 5 Sams" attitude in some quarters.

The u21 team from this year have a lot of potential if they can stick at it. A big name outside appointment is needed to shake Cavan up a bit.

[mylestheslasher]

What Cavan need is a high profile manager with proven track record, the type of guy whose name alone will inspire people to want to play for him. The problem is that such candidates are rare and would have no interest in managing us. My big fear is that our crop of young talent coming through will be destroyed by the current set up. To keep continuity with the u21 panel I would kick king out as selector and bring Anthony forde or Ronan carolan in. I'd put Hyland with the u21s as manager and maybe senior selector. Andrews has been a total failure this year so I'd let him go and look for a new manager right now. Due to our lowly status we would really be looking at a manager starting out but someone with a knowledge of what it takes to get fit, strong and organised. An inspirational figure like Brian dooher, peter canavan etc is what I would be looking. But we need to do well at minor now to show such a candidate that there is talent coming through.

[Breffni_Yank]

I say we focus all our attentions on the Hurling for a few years...

[samwin08]

Tommy Carr was a disaster for Cavan football. he turfed out Mc Cabe and a few other useful players.  I am sure Hyland and Andrews would appreciate a few senior players at this moment.