The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, November 09, 2006, 10:52:45 PM

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EC Unique

Quote from: J70 on January 31, 2008, 01:20:58 PM
They want 100,000 fans to pay 5,000 each?

500million divided by 100000 is £500 each :-\

magpie seanie

The supporter based ownership is a good idea but its a lot easier on paper than in reality. It is the way to go for clubs but in truth most "supporters" don't really give enough of a shit to put their hard earned where their mouths are.

Minder

Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2008, 01:57:20 PM
The supporter based ownership is a good idea but its a lot easier on paper than in reality. It is the way to go for clubs but in truth most "supporters" don't really give enough of a shit to put their hard earned where their mouths are.

I would certainly have a few issues about putting my "hard earned" into an institution that pays someone like Harry Kewell £50k p/w
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

AZOffaly

I'd be wondering where the 'extra' money for transfers etc would come from. It's one thing buying out the shares, and building the stadium, but would the club be self sufficient after that to pay for wages, new players etc etc?

EC Unique

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 31, 2008, 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 31, 2008, 09:33:17 AM
Do you think a team that has drawn 10 and lost 3 out of 23 games deserves to be in the Champions League?  I think not but Liverpool could still turn it around to make that better reading but it is unlikely.

It's a good thing this years Champions League qualification was based on last years league positions

We are talking about next years qualification which is looking unlikely. :P

brokencrossbar1

#3485
QuoteThey want 100,000 fans to pay 5,000 each?


500million divided by 100000 is £500 each


500,000,000
      100,000

Stroke out the zeros there and you will see how much each "share" would be.

A good idea in principle but at a time when the club needs stability it is the wrong timing.  Rafa needs a serious rethink about where he is going in regards to team selection and development.  They are on a shocking run, but not losing too many games.  The reality is 4 home wins is not good enough.  If tehy win their game in hand, which is currently a big if, they go back up to 4th.  Focus on stability in team selection, achieve 4th palace and see what the cups can bring.  This is the best case scenario.

SuperDooperCooper

To mirror a topic in the football section are Liverpool still one of the big 4 or is it now a big 3 and we are in the group with everyone else striving for the 4th spot.
Sadly I believe it to be the latter. Seems unbelievable to be writing this but I can now see a situation where Rafa could be gone before March, out the cup, out the CL and off 4th place. December and especially January have not been good the LFC.

EC Unique

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 31, 2008, 02:15:31 PM
QuoteThey want 100,000 fans to pay 5,000 each?


500million divided by 100000 is £500 each


500,000,000
      100,000

Stroke out the zeros there and you will see how much each "share" would be.

A good idea in principle but at a time when the club needs stability it is the wrong timing.  Rafa needs a serious rethink about where he is going in regards to team selection and development.  They are on a shocking run, but not losing too many games.  The reality is 4 home wins is not good enough.  If tehy win their game in hand, which is currently a big if, they go back up to 4th.  Focus on stability in team selection, achieve 4th palace and see what the cups can bring.  This is the best case scenario.

Opps, my mistake :o  In that case there is no chance of finding 100000 people to part with 5 grand. Good idea on paper but will never happen.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2008, 01:57:20 PM
The supporter based ownership is a good idea but its a lot easier on paper than in reality. It is the way to go for clubs but in truth most "supporters" don't really give enough of a shit to put their hard earned where their mouths are.

It works for Barcelona

Mentalman

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 31, 2008, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2008, 01:57:20 PM
The supporter based ownership is a good idea but its a lot easier on paper than in reality. It is the way to go for clubs but in truth most "supporters" don't really give enough of a shit to put their hard earned where their mouths are.

It works for Barcelona

Certainly does. And they haven't felt the need so far to whore their shirt to alcohol/casino/telecommunications brands. I think 5000 is a bit steep, Barca's is more like 300 or 400 I think? I just remember Ardal O'Hanlon buying his during "Leagues Apart" (how did he ever sell the idea for that program? Genius!)
"Mr Treehorn treats objects like women man."

heganboy

I'm sure that there will be an option to buy more than 1 share per person...
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

brokencrossbar1

I would say there is heganboy but I would also imagine they may have an upper limit on the amount that people have to prevent say the like of DIC or your man Kraft buying a bulk load of them.

At this minute in time I actually think it is a bad idea as the is enough upheavel around the club and this is having an effect on the players.  If this is something that has been thought up in recent weeks with the unrest then it may not be well thought through.  I think people should back off a bit and give Rafa and the Yanks some breathing space.  There is enoug pressure withou more being created.  The reality is the League is well gone, but qualification for next years CL is in their own hands as sre the 2 cup competitions.  Let them at it for now and re-assess in the summer.

Farrandeelin

I'd nearly bet that Liverpool will finish in the top 4 come the end of the season. All the other clubs around them are too inconsistent imo.
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heganboy

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

magickingdom

it would be fantastic if the share purchase scheme could come off, as gabriel said it works well for barcelona. imagine the fun and games when elections come around every year!! green bay in the nfl are also owned by their fan base to the best of my knowledge..