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GAA Discussion / football tis a game for wimps
June 03, 2010, 11:59:53 AM

Thursday June 03 2010

LARRY Tompkins has launched an all-out attack on the direction in which Gaelic football has been steered in recent years, branding it "a game designed for wimps" which is frustrating the players and turning off the public.

He identifies continuous meddling with the rules as the source of the problem and warns that unless steps are taken to reintroduce acceptable levels of physical contact attendance figures will drop.

"People will pay good money to go to Killarney next Sunday for a game between probably the two best teams in the country and they want to see a real contest, full of intensity, honest hits and real manliness. They want to see Kieran Donaghy catch the ball and Graham Canty or some other Cork man hit him with a good shoulder when he gets back down," he says.

"They want lads to take on each other fairly and physically without being afraid of being booked or sent off for Mickey Mouse fouls. What they don't want is a game where players are being penalised for so-called illegal handpasses and yellow cards being waved for the most trivial things. But the way the game has gone -- and it's no fault of the players -- that's what they're going to get."

Tompkins, who played senior inter-county football with Kildare and Cork between the ages of 16 and 35, and who also managed Cork, said he has sensed growing dissatisfaction among the public over what they regard as the undermining of the game.

interference

"The number of people I meet who say, 'what's happened to football?' has grown hugely over recent years. It's not the players' fault. The trouble is that we have had too much interference with some rules while ignoring others which need to be changed. I remember chatting to the late Jack Lynch (former Taoiseach and Cork dual star) back in the late 1980s and asking him what he thought was the biggest difference between football then and in his time. He said there had been too many rule changes in between.

"If he were around now, what would he make of it, because it has been changed again and again since then? There's more tackling allowed in ladies' football now than in the men's game. It's ridiculous. I was involved in a lot of great battles with the likes of Meath and Kerry in the late '80s to early '90s but using today's rules, we would have ended up with five-a-side games."

Tompkins contends that while the physical dimension, which is supposed to be an integral part of Gaelic football, has been diluted it has been replaced by unattractive elements which appear to have become acceptable even if they are damaging the game as a spectacle.

"A player can pick up a yellow card for next to nothing nowadays. That leaves managers wondering whether to take him off in case he gets a second yellow, followed by a red. At some stage next Sunday, you'll probably have a situation where Conor Counihan or Jack O'Connor will be wondering what to do after one of their players has been booked on a triviality instead of trying to figure out some tactical matter. That's not the way it should be.

"At the same time, you have the ludicrous situation where players are being pulled for dodgy handpasses, yet when was the last time you saw a referee penalise a player for taking a scoreable free from the wrong place? It's happening all the time because free-takers are good at edging that bit closer to goal. Kicking frees for goal off the ground was a real skill but was replaced with the option of kicking from the hand, which is now being abused in every game, yet it goes unpunished. I'd ban allowing scoreable frees to be kicked off the hand if I had my way."

Tompkins believes that the fisted pass should have been retained as the only means of transferring the ball by hand and would outlaw the pass back to the goalkeeper, which is becoming an increasingly frequent ploy for defenders.

"Soccer made it less attractive to pass back to the goalkeeper by forcing him to kick off the ground but we're doing nothing about it in Gaelic football. People talk about speeding up the game but the opposite happens when defenders handpass the ball across the pitch to each other and, if they're under pressure, pass back to the goalkeeper. The possession game is all very fine but it shouldn't be encouraged by allowing players to pass back to the goalkeeper, which only slows things down."

cheating

He is also scathing of what he regards as an increasing in cheating.

"Some players will dive in the hope of winning a free or a penalty. They may even be encouraged to do it. If you did that in the past you'd be laughed at and ignored," he says.

"We've got to be conscious of what the public like to see and they certainly don't want a situation where it pays to cheat. Nor do they want to see a decent shoulder challenge being penalised, as happens so often.

"Worst of all, they don't want to be confused when a referee blows his whistle and they have to wait to see which way the free is going. It should be obvious but it's not anymore."

He says he is not advocating a game which tolerated violent conduct but rather a return to the days when a hard hit wasn't regarded as a foul.

"It's very easy to judge what's fair and what's illegal but, in the modern game, we're leaning towards taking all the physicality out it and replacing it with rules which annoy players and spectators alike," Tompkins adds. "I'd have to say that I'm delighted to have been playing football when I was because the modern game would frustrate the hell out of me.

"It's frustrating the modern players too but it seems there's nothing they can do to change it. Neither can the public who are paying into games that have become less enjoyable to watch."

- Martin Breheny
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looking for help whats the best way to get to edenderry from Castlebar is it head to Athlone and then follow my nose ?
#3
Heading over to London to a concert with the missus in may. I was wondering has anybody on the board been to a concert in the O2 any  could any one recommend any place to stay fairly close by.What is the best airport to fly in to London choices are Stanstead,Luton, Or gatwick thanks
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Friday January 02 2009

'NO Irish need apply' - the signs are already going up on building sites abroad in a throwback to the grim days of the the last century.

But this time they are starting to appear in Poland as that country takes its revenge for the way in which some unscrupulous Irish contractors treated their countrymen during the years of the Celtic Tiger.

Trade union official Michael Kilcoyne - also president of the Consumers Association of Ireland - said it had recently been brought to his attention that the 'No Irish' signs had appeared on a couple of Polish building sites where workers were being sought.

Mr Kilcoyne said: "The reality is that our international reputation as employers has been sullied. Many foreign people who have worked here, especially during our boom years, have had bad experiences.

"The evidence of this is in the number of cases taken before the Labour Relations Commission over the last year or two in respect of unpaid wages or holiday money that was not paid.

"Ireland's name as a good place to work has been badly damaged by such contractors who held onto the money of their workers."

Mr Kilcoyne, who is a SIPTU trade union official in the west, revealed that he had personally won 14 such cases in Galway, while he believed there were hundreds, if not thousands, of similar awards made countrywide against employers and in favour of non-national workers who had been short-changed.

- Brian McDonald

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General discussion / Reasons why the recession is good
November 28, 2008, 04:19:09 PM
I know people are going on about the recession but its not all bad i tell ye

1) Mortgage repayments are coming down
2) the price of oil and petrol has dropped
3) Whereas before you had no chance to get a small job done in a house now lads can't come quick enough to start a job
4) You don't have to sit in a pub all night listen to lads going on about the 3 houses they have and how much they have gone up since yesterday evening
5) Seems to be more  down in the local for a few pints in the evening   
6) With sterling weakening against the euro us Mexicans can travel up north and see all the beautiful towns and villages as we purchase cheap ale , food, and electrical appliances (its funny the way the traders are giving out about this however when the shoe was on the other foot and people were buying their petrol in the republic there wasn't a word about it)

So there you go the recession isn't all that bad

 
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General discussion / Flights to Philadelphia
August 14, 2008, 11:09:57 AM
looking at booking flights to Philadelphia just wondering does anyone know what american airlines if any fly direct to and from ireland
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Might as well run this in conjunction with the other threads then no one is left out  ;)

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i would call this team when finalised the super slapheads
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i thought cork were playing limerick this weekend maybe i'm wrong . Cant see a thread on it though, do we have any cork posters at all ?
#9
Well only 5 days to go till the Bruce springsteen concerts next week , anyone going ?
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ah does it get better than this last 2 weeks have been beautiful managed to get a fair bit of miles on the bike , just wondering any other bikers out there. Now i must admit don't use me bike often only when the sun it splitting the rocks however this weather is made for them long may it continue . Went to clifden the other week through leenane and westport the scenery  is absolutely unreal as the unbelievables said "it would be a great little country is we could put a roof on it". Any of ye know any nice places to bring the bike on a weekend?
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General discussion / s type Jaguar
October 30, 2007, 02:13:47 PM
looking for some help here, my old man is looking at buying one of these cars in England. They seem to be Good value .Just wondering does any one know anything about them or do they give bother? any help appreciated
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good article in the indo today about how mickey Ned O' Sullivan went over to South Africa in 2006 to help them with  fielding the ball. maybe someone could paste the article as i can't
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GAA Discussion / mayo retain the All Ireland
October 13, 2007, 09:15:35 AM
Just to let you know that Mayo retained the Over 40's Ai last night defeating a spirited Down team by 2.9 to 12 points.Now three great teams are going for the three in a row next year ;)
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General discussion / world darts grandprix citywest
October 12, 2007, 10:13:33 AM
watching the darts on sky the last few nights seems to be a great atmosphere in the citywest expecially last night. Phil the power knocked out in the 1st  round , Van Barnaveld seems to be the man to beat especially with all the support from the blarney army seems to be a lot of new dart players coming through.
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General discussion / Digiweb Satellite Broadband
October 06, 2007, 03:11:44 PM
Looking for help out there I'm in the process of selling my house in the sticks one couple are very interested but they need to be able to get broadband as they will be working for home and broadband is a necessity. i have been looking for information and it looks like the only way i can be guaranteed coverage is through Digiweb satellite Broadband, its fairly expensive i know but it won't be me that will be paying it i just have to  ensure that it is available. Has any one dealt with this company? or has anyone any other solution to my plight? Thanks in advance. Never thought getting broadband could prevent the sale of a house but there you are.
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General discussion / what would your dream job be
September 20, 2007, 11:42:38 AM
i have allways been interested in photography and women so mine would be a playboy photographer a tough job i know but someone has got to do it ;)
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General discussion / 1st day at school
September 04, 2007, 01:38:49 PM
Left my little girl at school today for her 1st day. Very emotional they are beginning to make their steps in the big bad world out there. How did the rest of ye like school, the only thing i missed were the auld football matches every lunchtime you would have great games and after  school you would play football till the cows came home. Different days then parents didn't have to worry about leaving their children out till all hours they knew they were safe now you afraid to let them out of your sight.
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hoping to get to 1 of the group matches for the world cup, anyone else heading over and what match are ye going to?
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with the week thats in it just wondering what are the other posters favourites scores against the dubs, mine in no particular order are

1) Ciaran Mac's point in the 2006 AI semi to win the match, what a score oh the memories
2) Maurice Fitz's wonderscore in the 2001 Qualifers
3) Mugsy's goal in the 2005 AI Qualifer

Question is who will silence the hill this sunday ;)
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just wondering should the gaa sell croke park to the fai and then build a new stadium in Athlone, it would be afull handy for all us culchies to get to the matches jesus even the Kerry and Cork boyos might get off their arses and go to a semi final.Nothing would give me more satisfaction than to see 75000 Jackeens in Athlone following their team.