Joe Brolly

[maigheo]

Very good article from Joyce.Hits the nail on the head

[Syferus]

Someone sounds angry he didn't land the cushy SG gig..

[The Stallion]

Pompous arrogance from Joyce there about Brolly not being qualified to have an opinion. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and how good you were as a player has absolutely no bearing on his accurate your opinion is.

His comments come across as rather snide.

[LeoMc]

Pompous arrogance from Joyce there about Brolly not being qualified to have an opinion. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and how good you were as a player has absolutely no bearing on his accurate your opinion is.

His comments come across as rather snide.

A bit like Joe then.

[Walter Cronc]

Joyce was hugely overrated anyway himself.

[seafoid]

The Joyce article has loads of information whereas TSG generally doesn't . It's more like entertainment. But that is presumably what RTE are aiming for.

[Owen Brannigan]

I wouldn't command a player to cheat if that's what you mean. Some things are more important than winning at all costs.

Breaking any of the rules of Gaelic football is not cheating. If it was then everyone on the pitch would be considered a cheat including the officials who do not implement the defined rules of the game.

There is a difference between being cynical in your action on the pitch and cheating.

The black card was brought in as a panic measure to prevent cynical actions on the field when referees and their assistants fail to fully implement the existing rules.  It doesn't work because when cynical action is required to win a game, it occurs and players regularly 'take one for the team".

Players play to win and those who are fully motivated and determined to do so will always carry out the actions that will ensure a win but do as little harm to their opponents as possible, hence for example the 'rugby tackle' rather than a foot trip.

You need to brush up on minor details, for example facts rate higher that emotional claptrap..

What are you talking about?

There were sufficient rules to deal with cynical fouls but not used by referees.  Black card was introduced in response to a moral outcry about a small number of actions, e.g. Cavanagh's rugby tackle.  Congress was played a video of cynical actions and then voted in the new rule. 

Has the Black Card stopped cynical play?  No.  Is it fully implemented by referees? No.

[AZOffaly]

Black Card was not introduced because of Sean Cavanagh's rugby tackle. It was introduced at Congress several months earlier. I'd love to kick Joe Brolly in the hulahoop because of all the confusion his rant has caused on this.

Also, I genuinely don't believe proponents of the black card ever imagined it would eliminate Sean Cavanagh's tackle, or Anthony Maher's tackle for that matter. Those sort of desperation tackles will always happen unless the penalty is actually the very score you are trying to prevent. (Like free throws in basketball).

The Black Card was brought in to prevent the systematic, low grade fouling that was taking place all over the pitch, especially in the forwards after a turnover. The aim of this fouling was to slow the game down, prevent counter attacks and allow the team get back into their established defensive positions. I believe the black card has done a relatively good job of that, and it certainly has done a good job of cleaning up the off the ball blocking that was going on to stop players joining attacks.

The problem with the black card has always been the stupidity of pundits who never communicated properly to people what is and isn't a black card. And because of this, pressure has grown on referees to an extent where it has now become almost unworkable.

You always ask referees to make judgment calls. That's what refereeing is in most cases. For the black card, all we were asking was the referee to make a judgment if a particular foul, e.g a Trip or a Pull Down, was DELIBERATE or just clumsy. It's pretty binary. Is that a Trip? Yes/No. Is it deliberate (in the referee's judgment) Yes/No. The answer to both have to be 'Yes' for the black card.

The way the pundits spun it, you'd think the referee was being asked to weigh up 100,000 factors.

[Owen Brannigan]

Black Card was not introduced because of Sean Cavanagh's rugby tackle. It was introduced at Congress several months earlier. I'd love to kick Joe Brolly in the hulahoop because of all the confusion his rant has caused on this.

Apologies for that error on my behalf

[Dinny Breen]

I see Joe had a pop at AIB on twitter (retweet, I wouldn't follow that clown). He is as predictable as he is narcissistic...

[AZOffaly]

A pop at AIB? About what? Interest rates, the housing crisis, 'Backing Brave', or the fact that they dared allow Padraig Joyce criticise him?

Pure Gobshite.

[An Fhairche Abu]

A pop at AIB? About what? Interest rates, the housing crisis, 'Backing Brave', or the fact that they dared allow Padraig Joyce criticise him?

Pure Gobshite.

Hear, hear.

[joemamas]

A pop at AIB? About what? Interest rates, the housing crisis, 'Backing Brave', or the fact that they dared allow Padraig Joyce criticise him?

Pure Gobshite.

Having only met P Joyce in person once, and not being overly impresssed with his disdain for Mayo, I approached this article with a certain sense of negativity.

I could not have been more wrong.
Best and most concise analysis I have read in ages.
I hope he gets signed up by some newspaper, a way way more insightful that 80-90% of the shit that is now written.

He probably could have cut back on the last extra dig or two at Brolly. It would have had same effect.

Excellent piece

[Dinny Breen]

A pop at AIB? About what? Interest rates, the housing crisis, 'Backing Brave', or the fact that they dared allow Padraig Joyce criticise him?

Pure Gobshite.

https://twitter.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/852861321183932418

[AZOffaly]

Dingbat.

And sure if AIB gave all the money back, we'd only give it to the Dubs anyway.