Joe Brolly

[imtommygunn]

94 mickey linden, 93 colin corkery (brolly wasn't in bad form either) , 92 tony boyle and even vinny murphy were on form.

They also were decent enough in those years.

Most years you can tell very quickly who will win the game but those years weren't the same.

[Hereiam]

Brolly on fine form tonight

[Mayo Border]

Brolly is a tool

[Cunny Funt]

Brolly on fine form tonight

Embarrassed himself again but it doesn't matter so long as the people are talking about him. A total attention seeker 

[DuffleKing]

What's this week's jackanory?

[ashman]

The  reality  on CC :

2002 :  a skinny 19 year old starved on ball in last 20.

2003 ;  Kerry swamped by Tyrone , blame a 20 year old corner forward .

2005 ; CC played well .  Tyrone were better and he say little ball .  Kerry tactics poor TBH .

2008 ;  Kerry tactics utter nuts . CC by passed by a litany of high balls . Tyrone read the script well .  CC utterly unblameable .

2011 ;  Kerry gassed in last 15 v Dubs as still blew it . CC played well .

2012 ; v Donegal :  CC was poor in a team well beaten .

2013 ;  CC outstanding in first half .  He did OK in second on utter scraps as Dublin lorded midfield .

2015 ; he was finished .

[BennyHarp]

The  reality  on CC :

2002 :  a skinny 19 year old starved on ball in last 20.

2003 ;  Kerry swamped by Tyrone , blame a 20 year old corner forward .

2005 ; CC played well .  Tyrone were better and he say little ball .  Kerry tactics poor TBH .

2008 ;  Kerry tactics utter nuts . CC by passed by a litany of high balls . Tyrone read the script well .  CC utterly unblameable .

2011 ;  Kerry gassed in last 15 v Dubs as still blew it . CC played well .

2012 ; v Donegal :  CC was poor in a team well beaten .

2013 ;  CC outstanding in first half .  He did OK in second on utter scraps as Dublin lorded midfield .

2015 ; he was finished .

Gooch kicked 0-4 in 2005 and set up a goal if my memory serves me correctly. He kicked 0-6 in 2008.

Just as a random comparison of a player playing a similar position......Joe Brolly kicked 0-1 v Dublin in the semi final in 1993 and 0-1 in the final v Cork. (He failed to score in the Ulster final that year - maybe it was a bit wet for him that day). In his only other appearance at All Ireland level in 1998 he failed to score in the semi final v Galway. I wonder how he would judge himself based on his own, big game criteria?

[ashman]

Any career can be assessed against losses :  an overhyped choker like Henry Shefflin was poor on 1999 final .  He beat a bad OFfaly team in 2000 .  Didn't perform in last 10 mins v Galway in 2001 . Was on the field in 2004 when they lost to cork .  Hell he couldn't look after his cruciate in 2010 v Kilkenny in 2010 . Shefflin was some choker too.

[Seany]

It really takes a remarkable talent in self obsession to turn a story about the retirement of Colm Cooper into a debate about yourself, but Brolly possesses that ability.  He just couldn't handle the fact that for one moment, he wasn't centre of attention, so swiftly moved to remedy that.  The facts of course are that Colm O'Rourke operated in a different era before blanket defences, sweepers etc, was  an excellent footballer but his era was a one on one contest.  Gooch suffered at times from a lack of quality ball into the corner, helped but the man beside him and the man in front of him and the third man whose job it was to take him out whenever he could.  Fitzmaurice moved him from poacher to playmaker and he won another All Ireland and an Allstar at centre half forward after completely reinventing himself.
We need to remember that at the back of it all, Brolly knows nothing really about football.

[DuffleKing]

That's it summarised perfectly. An eloquent, self absorbed Robbie savage.

[From the Bunker]

It really takes a remarkable talent in self obsession to turn a story about the retirement of Colm Cooper into a debate about yourself, but Brolly possesses that ability.  He just couldn't handle the fact that for one moment, he wasn't centre of attention, so swiftly moved to remedy that.  The facts of course are that Colm O'Rourke operated in a different era before blanket defences, sweepers etc, was  an excellent footballer but his era was a one on one contest.  Gooch suffered at times from a lack of quality ball into the corner, helped but the man beside him and the man in front of him and the third man whose job it was to take him out whenever he could.  Fitzmaurice moved him from poacher to playmaker and he won another All Ireland and an Allstar at centre half forward after completely reinventing himself.
We need to remember that at the back of it all, Brolly knows nothing really about football.

Sorry, He never won an AI in that role!

[OgraAnDun]

Brolly's recent comments are suspiciously similar to the opinions of a couple of the WUMs on here.

[rosnarun]

Brolly is a charlatan and people here are worse for giving him oxegen.
but At least i dont have to pay any of you €160 a year to ignore your opinions

[haranguerer]

Is Brolly not just talking in terms of the 'best ever' debate?

Saying someone isn't the best ever, or not as good as some of those rated amongst the best ever, is a long long way from saying he was shite.

[yellowcard]

On this matter Brolly was right. The commentary on Gooch was way OTT during the week. Factually I don't think there was very much wrong with what he said but O'Se was understandably obviously going to stick up for his mate whilst Whelan and Lyster took the populist approach and dismissed Brolly completely.