Joe Brolly

[redhandefender]

Just to bring it back to topic, Joe Brolly is a k**b!

You're a f**king knob!!

Sorry Joe

[screenexile]

Just to bring it back to topic, Joe Brolly is a k**b!

You're a f**king knob!!

Sorry Joe

Sure how can I be Joe when I'm an Armagh man??!! 

[redhandefender]

Just to bring it back to topic, Joe Brolly is a k**b!

You're a f**king knob!!

Sorry Joe

Sure how can I be Joe when I'm an Armagh man??!! 

same S**te different colour

[bcarrier]

Some people are so blinkered when it comes to Cooper,

There are none so blind etc.

[lenny]

Some people are so blinkered when it comes to Cooper,

Like yourself. You are in a minority of much less than one per cent if you think gooch isnt a class player.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Some people are so blinkered when it comes to Cooper,

Like yourself. You are in a minority of much less than one per cent if you think gooch isnt a class player.

Whether he is a class player or not is not the issue.

The issue is he seems to struggle to produce it when it really, really counts. I think the term flat track bully applies to him, he might have no problem shooting the lights out when he's up against sub standard opposition or when there is no pressure on him. But there is no a big trail of evidence that says he can't do it when the pressure and quality marking is there on him like other top forwards of his generation have - some playing for counties with nowhere near the quality of teammates Cooper has/had.

[tyroneman]

The easy answer for those in the Pro-Gooch camp is to list the games against top 6 opposition where he has been the difference maker........

[theticklemister]

Saying this is a Joe Brolly thread, no wan has mentioned Joe Brolly being the best forward ever; show a bit of respect lads.

[BennyHarp]

Saying this is a Joe Brolly thread, no wan has mentioned Joe Brolly being the best forward ever; show a bit of respect lads.

I think the level of complete and utter bollox being spoken on this thread is a very apt tribute to the man. 

[Applesisapples]

Gooch/Canavan/McConville/Linden all good players but put any of them in a team that is not functioning well and they all would struggle. Cut out the supply. It is a team sport and it is grossly unfair to expect one player to single-handedly pull the team over the line. What they can do is make the difference in games where teams are well matched and look like superstars when the opposition is crap, that isn't their fault though.

[lenny]

The easy answer for those in the Pro-Gooch camp is to list the games against top 6 opposition where he has been the difference maker........

Given that you are in the 0.01% who think he isn't a great player I think the onus is on you to try and convince the rest of us ie the vast majority. The arguments that have been given so far have been completely unconvincing.

[screenexile]

The easy answer for those in the Pro-Gooch camp is to list the games against top 6 opposition where he has been the difference maker........

Given that you are in the 0.01% who think he isn't a great player I think the onus is on you to try and convince the rest of us ie the vast majority. The arguments that have been given so far have been completely unconvincing.

The irony is that Brolly actually holds the same opinion!

[J70]

Gooch/Canavan/McConville/Linden all good players but put any of them in a team that is not functioning well and they all would struggle. Cut out the supply. It is a team sport and it is grossly unfair to expect one player to single-handedly pull the team over the line. What they can do is make the difference in games where teams are well matched and look like superstars when the opposition is crap, that isn't their fault though.

Well said.

Its not LeBron James or Michael Jordan in a five man basketball team we are talking about here!

[Il Bomber Destro]

Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

[Beffs]

Bit harsh on a player coming back from a knee injury that was far worse than most cruciate injuries. On a day when the conditions were horrific, one bad slip and he and his knee could have been dunzo for good. Physically, he's just not built for the rough stuff. Still, whether he likes it or not, Cooper being so comprehensively outfought last Sunday, will have a negative impact on his overall legacy imo. 

Luckily for him, the sheer number of former Kerry players with newspaper/telly/radio gigs and a largely deferential media, will ensure that any real & objective analysis of Gooch's career will never take place. When the likes of Brolly bring it up, they'll be dismissed as cranks. Business as usual !