The Many Faces of US Politics...

[AZOffaly]

easytiger, I'm not sure this is a 'constitutional right' per se. It appears to be, rather, a sort of memorandum of understanding between the hospitals in Utah, and the Police. I'm not sure, for example, that an FBI agent would be bound by it, or if it is the same in Arizona or anywhere else.


"Wubbels presented the officers with a printout of the hospital's policy for drawing blood and said their request did not meet the criteria. Hospital policy specified that before obtaining a blood sample, police needed a judge's order or the patient's consent, or the patient needed to be under arrest.
The university and Salt Lake City police had agreed to the policy more than a year ago, but "the officers here appeared to be unaware of" it during the July incident, Wubbels' attorney, Karra Porter, said Friday."

[easytiger95]

I'm sure that while it would not be "per se", the hospital would have concerns that they would be open to charges of violating patients constitutional rights if they did not institute the policy that they have.

[AZOffaly]

I'm sure that's why they did it. Either way the cop was an asshole.  Ironic that he was also a part time medic!

[bennydorano]

See Fox News has disappeared of the Sky platform in the UK.

[seafoid]

I did not say that the law should not be enforced. That is the precise opposite of what I said.

Nor did I say that all police do not respect the law. But it's reasonable to say that given their power of life and death, their fear-based reactions, their lack of training in non lethal force, and their near zero accountability, at this point the police are a bigger threat to public safety than the terrorists.

Lifetime odds of being killed by:
Police officer: 1 in 8,359
Foreign born terrorist: 1 in 45,808
Refugee terrorist: 1 in 46,192,893
Illegal immigrant terrorist: 1 in 138,324, 873

Source

What are the lifetime odds of being killed by a police officer if you just obey the fvckin law?

In America 10x the Irish rate

[Eamonnca1]

I did not say that the law should not be enforced. That is the precise opposite of what I said.

Nor did I say that all police do not respect the law. But it's reasonable to say that given their power of life and death, their fear-based reactions, their lack of training in non lethal force, and their near zero accountability, at this point the police are a bigger threat to public safety than the terrorists.

Lifetime odds of being killed by:
Police officer: 1 in 8,359
Foreign born terrorist: 1 in 45,808
Refugee terrorist: 1 in 46,192,893
Illegal immigrant terrorist: 1 in 138,324, 873

Source

What are the lifetime odds of being killed by a police officer if you just obey the fvckin law?

It varies by skin colour.

[whitey]

I did not say that the law should not be enforced. That is the precise opposite of what I said.

Nor did I say that all police do not respect the law. But it's reasonable to say that given their power of life and death, their fear-based reactions, their lack of training in non lethal force, and their near zero accountability, at this point the police are a bigger threat to public safety than the terrorists.

Lifetime odds of being killed by:
Police officer: 1 in 8,359
Foreign born terrorist: 1 in 45,808
Refugee terrorist: 1 in 46,192,893
Illegal immigrant terrorist: 1 in 138,324, 873

Source

What are the lifetime odds of being killed by a police officer if you just obey the fvckin law?

In America 10x the Irish rate

There's lies, damn lies and there's statistics.....

The town I grew up in Ireland has had 6 murders in the past 10 years

The town I live in in Massachusetts has had 0 murders in the past 10 years....and has half the population

Statistically I have a 1200% greater chance of getting murdered in my hometown than in the town I currently live in.

[Eamonnca1]

I used to live in Sunnyvale, something like the 6th safest city in America. That must mean America doesn't have a crime problem.

[stew]

I'm sure that's why they did it. Either way the cop was an asshole.  Ironic that he was also a part time medic!

Correct, that cop was a complete arsehole.

I hope she sues the PD, the only way some of these tubes will learn is if they are raked over the coals, if he costs them money, he will be raked over said coals.

[heganboy]

Mathematics Whitey mathematics.
Not even close to being correct

[whitey]

Mathematics Whitey mathematics.
Not even close to being correct

Haha...I know...it's 300 %

[Franko]

Mathematics Whitey mathematics.
Not even close to being correct

Haha...I know...it's 300 %

Nope.

[whitey]

Mathematics Whitey mathematics.
Not even close to being correct

Haha...I know...it's 300 %

Nope.

Well help me out then...its almost 30 years since I took statistics

[manfromdelmonte]

Mathematics Whitey mathematics.
Not even close to being correct

Haha...I know...it's 300 %

Nope.

Well help me out then...its almost 30 years since I took statistics

they've a new course down in Templemore called Garda Statistics

[seafoid]

This is a cracker of an article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2017/09/22/is-trump-mentally-ill-or-is-america-psychiatrists-weigh-in/

In his new book, "Twilight of American Sanity,"psychiatrist Allen Frances asserts that Trump is not mentally ill — we are. "Calling Trump crazy allows us to avoid confronting the craziness in our society," he writes. "We can't expect to change Trump, but we must work to undo the societal delusions that created him." And those delusions, Kurt Andersen contends in"Fantasyland," have been around for a long time. "People tend to regard the Trump moment — this post-truth, alternative facts moment — as some inexplicable and crazy new American phenomenon," he writes. "In fact, what's happening is just the ultimate extrapolation and expression of attitudes and instincts that have made America exceptional for its entire history."