All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20

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Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: criostlinn on August 20, 2017, 10:44:30 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
O'Shea was not a complete failure at fb but he is not a natural defender. There's bound to be a big man in that team with can jump and follow a forward around the park. Aos let him go unmarked  on about 10 occasions in that game.

Mayo folk need to lose the snowflake attitude to criticism if they're to win an all Ireland. You can be sure that there's a very honest and fairly brutal appraisal of Kerry tactics in the kingdom tonight.

Ara fcukit. Is that what's been holding us back all these years.
Sound so Joe Brolly and all his internet followers are 100% right and the next day Kieran Donaghy should be given free run of croke park.
Now. Will that do it. Now we agree with you will that win us the All Ireland

A glib response maybe, but square pegs in round holes will always cause problems. :)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Il Bomber Destro

It's not so much as O'Shea was destroyed by Donaghy, it was the fact that Mayo were removing one of their main players out of the game to mark Donaghy and given the fact Donaghy was so heavily involved for Kerry I don't think it worked.

I though the subs were poor. I really don't see what Stephen Coen offers Mayo, surely there are some better players playing club football in Mayo that would improve the current options on the bench?

Syferus

Any Mayo supporter who didn't know AOS couldn't play FB based on his marking, lack of turning mobility and tackling at every grade the past ten years - I'm just sorry for you, no insults, just pity.

If he starts there against on Saturday it will probably be the losing of the game for Mayo. Today it was the difference between a comfortable win and a draw. Rochford must be getting tactical advice from David Brady..

Captain Scarlet

There were lots of head scratching when Colm Boyle was called ashore too as he is usually a man with lots of running in him and he could have picked holes at the death. (I was watching out of the house so didn't hear post match chats. Was he inhured?)

Even if there is an argument over Donaghy´s hand in 2-5 surely there can be no argument in that sacrificing one of your most influential players to become a stopper doesn't make sense. A bit like putting Keegan so deep in defence previously you lose too much.
Maybe Kerry decided not to kick long with him there but surely the more limited Seamie would have provided bulk inside too?

Felt so sorry for Andy Moran. The man has serious movement and never stops making intelligent runs.

them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

criostlinn

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Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 20, 2017, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on August 20, 2017, 10:44:30 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
O'Shea was not a complete failure at fb but he is not a natural defender. There's bound to be a big man in that team with can jump and follow a forward around the park. Aos let him go unmarked  on about 10 occasions in that game.

Mayo folk need to lose the snowflake attitude to criticism if they're to win an all Ireland. You can be sure that there's a very honest and fairly brutal appraisal of Kerry tactics in the kingdom tonight.

Ara fcukit. Is that what's been holding us back all these years.
Sound so Joe Brolly and all his internet followers are 100% right and the next day Kieran Donaghy should be given free run of croke park.
Now. Will that do it. Now we agree with you will that win us the All Ireland

A glib response maybe, but square pegs in round holes will always cause problems. :)
True that. But when you don't have a round peg for the round hole you have to try something different.
All week the experts have spoke about Donaghy. All week we are listening about the trouble he could cause Mayo if he is not dealt with. We try something to deal with his aerial threat and end up keeping this dream full forward line to 5 points from play and yet to hear some if the comment you would swear it was an absolute disaster.
Of course everyone can have an opinion about how much it worked or it didn't but to see some amadan more i
Or less say that a mayo person disagreeing with him is the reason  they haven't won an all Ireland is just ridiculous.
Donnie Vaughan was Mayos man of the match in last years all Ireland final. He was phenomenal against the rossies the last day. Was he a better option to mark Donaghy ?

ONeill

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 20, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
O'Shea was not a complete failure at fb but he is not a natural defender. There's bound to be a big man in that team with can jump and follow a forward around the park. Aos let him go unmarked  on about 10 occasions in that game.

Mayo folk need to lose the snowflake attitude to criticism if they're to win an all Ireland. You can be sure that there's a very honest and fairly brutal appraisal of Kerry tactics in the kingdom tonight.

Agreed, it would seem that Rochford is attempting something similar to Cormac Mc Anallen's FB conversion in 2003, but that's a huge risk, they're very different players.

He didn't, and people aren't getting this. He wasn't employed to play a position. He was asked to mark a player.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

ballinaman

I've said it before and I'll say it again...



We're some craic

PW Nally

Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2017, 11:06:34 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 20, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
O'Shea was not a complete failure at fb but he is not a natural defender. There's bound to be a big man in that team with can jump and follow a forward around the park. Aos let him go unmarked  on about 10 occasions in that game.

Mayo folk need to lose the snowflake attitude to criticism if they're to win an all Ireland. You can be sure that there's a very honest and fairly brutal appraisal of Kerry tactics in the kingdom tonight.

Agreed, it would seem that Rochford is attempting something similar to Cormac Mc Anallen's FB conversion in 2003, but that's a huge risk, they're very different players.

He didn't, and people aren't getting this. He wasn't employed to play a position. He was asked to mark a player.
+0.875

highorlow

They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

ONeill

Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2017, 11:20:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2017, 11:06:34 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 20, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
O'Shea was not a complete failure at fb but he is not a natural defender. There's bound to be a big man in that team with can jump and follow a forward around the park. Aos let him go unmarked  on about 10 occasions in that game.

Mayo folk need to lose the snowflake attitude to criticism if they're to win an all Ireland. You can be sure that there's a very honest and fairly brutal appraisal of Kerry tactics in the kingdom tonight.

Agreed, it would seem that Rochford is attempting something similar to Cormac Mc Anallen's FB conversion in 2003, but that's a huge risk, they're very different players.

He didn't, and people aren't getting this. He wasn't employed to play a position. He was asked to mark a player.
He was employed to play a position in order to mark a player.

So what does Aidan McCrory do?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Syferus

AOS spent half his time marking space. The same space a FB marks. This clutching at ridiculous straws needs to stop. Bad decision, bad result, bad manager.

Wildweasel74

A player who only scored a point, is that not Job done?, who was picking up Moran was he was coming through, that's who at fault for the 1st goal, 2nd Goal the Keeper or mayo player kicked out to o Shea on the wing, it went over the side, the quick ball in was laid off by Donaghy, i put that one on the purveyor of the bad pass, he wasn't as bad as people here make out, Fullback a specialist position and would take a year plus to fill in a proper full back. Expect Aidan O`Shea at midfield the next day with his brother or Parson at full back. What happened kevin keane who was the back up full back?

Blowitupref

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 20, 2017, 11:27:08 PM
A player who only scored a point, is that not Job done?, who was picking up Moran was he was coming through, that's who at fault for the 1st goal, 2nd Goal the Keeper or mayo player kicked out to o Shea on the wing, it went over the side, the quick ball in was laid off by Donaghy, i put that one on the purveyor of the bad pass, he wasn't as bad as people here make out, Fullback a specialist position and would take a year plus to fill in a proper full back. Expect Aidan O`Shea at midfield the next day with his brother or Parson at full back. What happened kevin keane who was the back up full back?

ACL injury for his club in Jan.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

yellowcard

People are obsessing too much about Donaghy. He is an average inter county footballer on the ground but is a huge aerial threat. Plenty of people thought he was done 2 years ago and yet he is being talked up as some sort of modern day phenomenon. I don't get it. He only played decently today because he had nobody marking him when low ball was played in. I think Mayo can get far too hung up on Donaghy to the detriment of other areas of the pitch.

straightred

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 20, 2017, 11:27:08 PM
A player who only scored a point, is that not Job done?, who was picking up Moran was he was coming through, that's who at fault for the 1st goal, 2nd Goal the Keeper or mayo player kicked out to o Shea on the wing, it went over the side, the quick ball in was laid off by Donaghy, i put that one on the purveyor of the bad pass, he wasn't as bad as people here make out, Fullback a specialist position and would take a year plus to fill in a proper full back. Expect Aidan O`Shea at midfield the next day with his brother or Parson at full back. What happened kevin keane who was the back up full back?

He was far too loose on Donaghy for the 1st goal and he completely misjudged the flight of the ball that went out for a sideline. It wasn't a bad pass - he messed it up and that created the opportunity which kerry took. Small margins but it is an AI semi final. Full back is far too crucial a position to be putting someone in who doesn't know how to play it