All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20

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grounded

Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2017, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2017, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2017, 09:38:28 PM
Watching it back here. Aos won a single contest with Donaghy all day. It was a failed tactic.

Don't think it's as simple as that. Donaghy was the key to Kerry's attacks v Galway. Today he had far less impact because of the whole O'Shea sideshow. Kerry rarely sought him. I think it worked, today.

2 5 came of him.

Exactly, he had a massive impact and kept Kerry in the game.  On a number of occassions Aidan was at least 10 yards behind him when Star gained possession. Surely Donaghy is not that quick or o shea that slow. 

BennyCake

Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 20, 2017, 09:56:36 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2017, 09:50:21 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 20, 2017, 09:34:25 PM
Kerry could do worse than bring in boy wonder David Clifford the next day.

They can't. Against rules.

What rule is that?

Can't play senior anymore as a minor at county level.

Was this rule post-Patrick McBrearty?

trileacman

Very cynical tackle by Vaughan at the end to end the game with a very low percentage free. Fair play to him.
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mrdeeds

Quote from: BennyCake on August 20, 2017, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 20, 2017, 09:56:36 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2017, 09:50:21 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 20, 2017, 09:34:25 PM
Kerry could do worse than bring in boy wonder David Clifford the next day.

They can't. Against rules.

What rule is that?

Can't play senior anymore as a minor at county level.

Was this rule post-Patrick McBrearty?

Yeah only came in last couple years.

Fear ón Srath Bán

If 2-05 came off Donaghy you'd really have to say that AO'S cannot be Mayo's best approach, particularly when that can only blunt his impact further up the park, where he's most effective.
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imtommygunn

Oshea wasn't the marker for the second of those goals. Oshea was on the wing and 6 was on him. Also there were multiple things happened after donaghy touched it so i think it's a bit tenuous to say 2-5 came off him.

While he showed in parts he isn't a defender i do wonder if kerry would have peppered high balls in were o'shea not there.

ONeill

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 20, 2017, 10:13:24 PM
If 2-05 came off Donaghy you'd really have to say that AO'S cannot be Mayo's best approach, particularly when that can only blunt his impact further up the park, where he's most effective.

It's a bollocks stat. Aidan was there to stop the aeriel threat. He did that. Was he to also mark the players Donaghy laid off to for the 75 mins?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

trileacman

O'Shea was not a complete failure at fb but he is not a natural defender. There's bound to be a big man in that team with can jump and follow a forward around the park. Aos let him go unmarked  on about 10 occasions in that game.

Mayo folk need to lose the snowflake attitude to criticism if they're to win an all Ireland. You can be sure that there's a very honest and fairly brutal appraisal of Kerry tactics in the kingdom tonight.
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mrdeeds

Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2017, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 20, 2017, 10:13:24 PM
If 2-05 came off Donaghy you'd really have to say that AO'S cannot be Mayo's best approach, particularly when that can only blunt his impact further up the park, where he's most effective.

It's a bollocks stat. Aidan was there to stop the aeriel threat. He did that. Was he to also mark the players Donaghy laid off to for the 75 mins?

No but he was turned so easy.

highorlow

The 1st goal wasn't AOS fault. *'s point was a pot shot. The other goal was from an initial poor pass out over the sideline. I don't remember the other 4 points.

AOS blocked a certain point at the end and also fielded the last ball. I think we can safely say it was a better option than Cafferkey.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

trileacman

Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2017, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 20, 2017, 10:13:24 PM
If 2-05 came off Donaghy you'd really have to say that AO'S cannot be Mayo's best approach, particularly when that can only blunt his impact further up the park, where he's most effective.

It's a bollocks stat. Aidan was there to stop the aeriel threat. He did that. Was he to also mark the players Donaghy laid off to for the 75 mins?

He negated the aerial threat true but at the loss of aos influence out the pitch. If aos is such a influential player as Rockford or many here would expouse then how is he so easily sacrificed to plug a hole at the back.

All I'm saying is pick another big man to pick up star. Tyrone would not play Sean as a fb so they could leave the mcmahons out the field.
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Real Talk

That was a high intensity game today with  high scoring the order of the day ..... id say that was the first game of football played at a 'professional' level ...... next Sunday will be slightly different but equally as 'professional' really looking forward to it,  though I'm struggling to get a ticket ..... the Traditional 'amateur Club football and the Current 'top tier' professional County teams are miles apart .....  where is it going - where are we going !!!!!!

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
O'Shea was not a complete failure at fb but he is not a natural defender. There's bound to be a big man in that team with can jump and follow a forward around the park. Aos let him go unmarked  on about 10 occasions in that game.

Mayo folk need to lose the snowflake attitude to criticism if they're to win an all Ireland. You can be sure that there's a very honest and fairly brutal appraisal of Kerry tactics in the kingdom tonight.

Agreed, it would seem that Rochford is attempting something similar to Cormac Mc Anallen's FB conversion in 2003, but that's a huge risk, they're very different players.
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criostlinn

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Quote from: trileacman on August 20, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
O'Shea was not a complete failure at fb but he is not a natural defender. There's bound to be a big man in that team with can jump and follow a forward around the park. Aos let him go unmarked  on about 10 occasions in that game.

Mayo folk need to lose the snowflake attitude to criticism if they're to win an all Ireland. You can be sure that there's a very honest and fairly brutal appraisal of Kerry tactics in the kingdom tonight.

Ara fcukit. Is that what's been holding us back all these years.
Sound so Joe Brolly and all his internet followers are 100% right and the next day Kieran Donaghy should be given free run of croke park.
Now. Will that do it. Now we agree with you will that win us the All Ireland