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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #945 on: August 28, 2017, 03:57:26 PM »
Funny there was 10+ pages on O`Shea the last day but not a peep about him from yesterday, wonder why!

Because a lot of the pundits and commentators will not admit that it was a bold decision by Rochford to stick to his guns after ridiculing him the previous week. Whether you think Rochford is a good manager or not you would have to admire his courage for making big decisions. It just shows how everything is flowered by the result. If Rochford loses the AI title he will go back to being a 'donkey' and if he wins it he will be hailed a hero. Consecutive AI finals in 2 years isn't a bad return for a donkey.   
You're right. It's all about small margins. Conversely, you'll appreciate how fortunate they were en route to both finals with their performances in the earlier rounds of qualifiers. I'm not sure many (serious) pundits didn't admire his courage but there's still a case for arguing that there was a better move to make.

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #946 on: August 28, 2017, 03:59:41 PM »

Keith Higgins is some athlete for a 33 year old, his athleticism isn't normal for a bloke his age.

As good as Boyle was, I though Higgins was really the MOTM. Consummate footballer.

In each of the last 3 games Higgins has been outstanding and could easily have been MOTM in each of them. Both he and Moran must have a great chance of winning FOTY should Mayo win the AI.

Higgins is something else, one of the true great defenders of the last 30 years. Mayo are blessed to have Higgins, Boyle & Keegan in the same era, players like this are irreplaceable.

Boyle at 20/1 and Higgins at 33/1 are great bets for player of the year if Mayo can beat the Dubs. I just don't see Moran having the same impact in the final that he had against Kerry.

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #947 on: August 28, 2017, 04:06:34 PM »

Keith Higgins is some athlete for a 33 year old, his athleticism isn't normal for a bloke his age.

As good as Boyle was, I though Higgins was really the MOTM. Consummate footballer.

In each of the last 3 games Higgins has been outstanding and could easily have been MOTM in each of them. Both he and Moran must have a great chance of winning FOTY should Mayo win the AI.

Higgins is something else, one of the true great defenders of the last 30 years. Mayo are blessed to have Higgins, Boyle & Keegan in the same era, players like this are irreplaceable.

Boyle at 20/1 and Higgins at 33/1 are great bets for player of the year if Mayo can beat the Dubs. I just don't see Moran having the same impact in the final that he had against Kerry.

I agree, that is a ridiculous price because for me Higgins has consistently been Mayo's best player. Andy Moran has been magnificent also but I also think that he will struggle to replicate his performance against a very good Dublin defence. 

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #948 on: August 28, 2017, 04:51:02 PM »
Funny there was 10+ pages on O`Shea the last day but not a peep about him from yesterday, wonder why!

To be fair, Mayo were utterly dominant around the middle third and there was nothing like the quality of ball going into Donaghy compared with last week.

Donaghey showed his true colours at the end. Typical Kerry thuggery never highlighted by their pals in the media. One handy all Ireland in 8 years after Donegal ambushed Dublin.
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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #949 on: August 28, 2017, 08:44:31 PM »
What exactly did he row back on? AOS stayed FB and was outstanding. He got all the match ups correct. Had the balls to bench Durcan and take off Diarmuid at HT.

McStay put the boot in yesterday, let himself down badly. It's laughable that he said the first day was mayos best forward display in a long time. That's more blinkered than you Syf, we did put 20 points on Roscommon
Syf are u going to tell how Rochford has rowed back?
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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #950 on: August 28, 2017, 08:50:13 PM »
Funny there was 10+ pages on O`Shea the last day but not a peep about him from yesterday, wonder why!

To be fair, Mayo were utterly dominant around the middle third and there was nothing like the quality of ball going into Donaghy compared with last week.

Donaghey showed his true colours at the end. Typical Kerry thuggery never highlighted by their pals in the media. One handy all Ireland in 8 years after Donegal ambushed Dublin.

Considering the furore over the Connolly episode it smacks of blatant hypocrisy that the Donaghy and  incidences were brushed off so easily by media pundits. Incidents that had the potential to cause physical damage to an opponent.

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #951 on: August 28, 2017, 10:24:40 PM »
Great win and it was nice to finally win a replay against one of the top teams. Truth is we dominated the game and should have won by more - if Kerry had 65% possession against us in the first half, the game would be over. As it was, we had a few moments of fortune in the game - Vaughan's dropped shot for the goal, Crowley's yellow for nothing (would feel very sore about that if I was from Kerry as it was at a stage when they were coming back into it) and the black for DOS which was apparently soft although I haven't seen a replay.

Considering our possession and dominance in most individual battles, we should have won more convincingly.

Plenty of positives too though - Doc was excellent, nailing that free and 45 (should have been a close in free I thought as adv was still on)  really settled the team.

The improvement at MF and on kickouts was impressive although helped by Kerry playing a (sort of) sweeper made this easier.

The backs were all very good, even Geaney was marked well. AOS improved at FB, again helped by dominance in possession.

Loftus was good when he came on, would need a similar cameo in the AIF. Moran also excellent.

Third championship meeting in 3 years with Dublin and we've had chances to win all 4 of those games but have taken none. Hopefully we can change that in three weeks time....

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #952 on: August 28, 2017, 10:50:33 PM »
An extract from Keith Duggan's piece last Saturday in the Irish Times; good to see someone calling out that twat Sweeney

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It has been a ghoulish week for coverage of Gaelic football. For the second successive championship summer, Mayo’s manager Stephen Rochford has been widely pilloried and mocked for daring to make a tactical switch.

The latest reaction betrayed the prevailing scepticism and fear of trying anything original or different in Gaelic games.

And the tone of the commentary revealed a deep-down suspicion that there is a genetic impulse for self-destruction within the borders of the county; a disdainful sense that only they would try something this breathtakingly leftfield and flash. The howls of derision were shrill and instantaneous and underlined by a mean delight. Look! They did it again!

On Monday morning, a headline in the Irish Independent caught the spirit of the age in its scathing verdict on the management: “Tactically, Mayo are lions led by donkeys”.

It was one of those staggeringly insulting headlines you couldn’t quite believe even though it was there in front of you in black and white.

In a way, it was the inevitable conclusion to the free-for-all of mirth and derision aimed at Mayo’s sideline – and specifically at Rochford – which began almost as soon as Aidan O’Shea, Mayo’s notional full-forward, trotted to the full-back position to mark Kieran Donaghy, Kerry’s totemic full-forward.


The headline simply clarified a truism of recent years that when it comes to this Mayo team, it is open season all the time. People feel at liberty to say or write whatever they please.

Try to imagine that headline written about any Dublin football management – and the subsequent uproar. Or try to imagine Independent House applying the same headline to the Kerry football management. It simply wouldn’t happen.



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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #953 on: August 28, 2017, 10:53:54 PM »
Dublin don't drop Cluxton and Kerry don't play David Moran at FB, though. It would certainly be open season then.

It's a bit premature for a Rochford love-in because for me everything still points to him being hapless tactically.

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #954 on: August 28, 2017, 10:59:28 PM »
Doesn't matter whether the change was correct or not, no county manager deserves a headline like that. Typical of the tabloid shite in the Indo

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #955 on: August 29, 2017, 01:35:09 AM »
Dublin don't drop Cluxton and Kerry don't play David Moran at FB, though. It would certainly be open season then.

It's a bit premature for a Rochford love-in because for me everything still points to him being hapless tactically.
Jasus Syf,for a lad that never played football nor managed a team,why do you try to portray your self as an expert on tactics and players.?I know nobody takes you serious around here but I have to give you credit for persistence .

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #956 on: August 29, 2017, 01:51:23 AM »
Dublin don't drop Cluxton and Kerry don't play David Moran at FB, though. It would certainly be open season then.

It's a bit premature for a Rochford love-in because for me everything still points to him being hapless tactically.
Jasus Syf,for a lad that never played football nor managed a team,why do you try to portray your self as an expert on tactics and players.?I know nobody takes you serious around here but I have to give you credit for persistence .

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #957 on: August 29, 2017, 08:32:00 AM »
I hope Darran Sullivan has black card rescinded. Pathetic dive from O'Connor. Surely GAA needs to be looking at play acting.  it worse than soccer at this stage

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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #958 on: August 29, 2017, 10:41:08 AM »
I hope Darran Sullivan has black card rescinded. Pathetic dive from O'Connor. Surely GAA needs to be looking at play acting.  it worse than soccer at this stage

i dont think it was a dive, he certainly collided with him.
But no way was it a black card either.
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Re: All Ireland Football semi-final;Mayo v Kerry,Sunday Aug 20
« Reply #959 on: August 29, 2017, 10:58:32 AM »
Did he collide deliberately to take him out of the play?
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