Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

Started by Angelo, October 22, 2020, 10:36:07 AM

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Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

Yes
122 (71.8%)
No
48 (28.2%)

Total Members Voted: 170

Franko

Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 02:19:40 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 01:58:24 PM
Do all the people here who voted yes get their annual flu jab?

You only get the flu jab if you fall into a certain category I think

Anyone can get it but they some might get it for free whereas others pay. I'm open to correction on this.

Now, back to the questions. Those who voted yes and who seem to pushing their views that others should be getting a Covid vaccine when (more likely if) it comes on stream, do you get your annual flu jab?

Yes or no.

Pay for it? strange. At the moment, the free NHS flu programme is for people aged 65 and over, pregnant women, people with certain conditions such as kidney disease, asthma or heart disease and carers or those in care homes. Frontline health and social care workers are also eligible to receive the vaccine

Maybe its changed. But if it hasn't then these are the only ones that will get the jab, if they want it of course

It can kill, if they don't take it are they to be taken to task.

Indeed.  ::)

Angelo

Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Don't hold your breath for an answer.

None of those zealots have had the courage to answer me a question about when Covid becomes an acceptable risk to society like we accept seasonal flu?

It seems it doesn't matter if you die from flu. Tough luck seems to be their outlook. They are too thick to see the woods from the trees.

I see the cowards still haven't got the balls to answer this one?

Why do they mouth off and run from a fairly basic question like that? Why do your contradictions frighten you?
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Seaney

Maybe they have all got nose bleeds they are so high up on their moral high horse.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Don't hold your breath for an answer.

None of those zealots have had the courage to answer me a question about when Covid becomes an acceptable risk to society like we accept seasonal flu?

It seems it doesn't matter if you die from flu. Tough luck seems to be their outlook. They are too thick to see the woods from the trees.

I see the cowards still haven't got the balls to answer this one?

Why do they mouth off and run from a fairly basic question like that? Why do your contradictions frighten you?

When you stop talking and linking Covid to flu..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 02:28:47 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Don't hold your breath for an answer.

None of those zealots have had the courage to answer me a question about when Covid becomes an acceptable risk to society like we accept seasonal flu?

It seems it doesn't matter if you die from flu. Tough luck seems to be their outlook. They are too thick to see the woods from the trees.

I see the cowards still haven't got the balls to answer this one?

Why do they mouth off and run from a fairly basic question like that? Why do your contradictions frighten you?

When you stop talking and linking Covid to flu..

You didn't answer the question.

We accept viruses in our society that kill, leave long lasting heath problems and overwhelm the health service, at what point those Covid become as acceptable a risk as those we do very little to counter?

At what point? Or are you too coward to admit to everyone that you couldn't give a toss about those who die from flu?

Do you get the flu vaccine? Yes or no.

A lot of uncomfortable truths here for a guy who is attempting to pontificate to others.
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RedHand88

Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 01:58:24 PM
Do all the people here who voted yes get their annual flu jab?

You only get the flu jab if you fall into a certain category I think

Anyone can get it but they some might get it for free whereas others pay. I'm open to correction on this.

Now, back to the questions. Those who voted yes and who seem to pushing their views that others should be getting a Covid vaccine when (more likely if) it comes on stream, do you get your annual flu jab?

Yes or no.

Yes. I got it few weeks ago. I got the quadrivalent version because I'm under 65. I encourage everyone who's eligible to do the same.

Angelo

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 23, 2020, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 01:58:24 PM
Do all the people here who voted yes get their annual flu jab?

You only get the flu jab if you fall into a certain category I think

Anyone can get it but they some might get it for free whereas others pay. I'm open to correction on this.

Now, back to the questions. Those who voted yes and who seem to pushing their views that others should be getting a Covid vaccine when (more likely if) it comes on stream, do you get your annual flu jab?

Yes or no.

Yes. I got it few weeks ago. I got the quadrivalent version because I'm under 65. I encourage everyone who's eligible to do the same.

That's fair enough. You are consistent in your position.

But are others?

Milltown is being extremely evasive here. I wonder why that is? He wants to lecture to others about getting a Covid vaccine but doesn't see it as worthwhile doing his bit to stop spreading the flu.
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Chief

Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 23, 2020, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 01:58:24 PM
Do all the people here who voted yes get their annual flu jab?

You only get the flu jab if you fall into a certain category I think

Anyone can get it but they some might get it for free whereas others pay. I'm open to correction on this.

Now, back to the questions. Those who voted yes and who seem to pushing their views that others should be getting a Covid vaccine when (more likely if) it comes on stream, do you get your annual flu jab?

Yes or no.

Yes. I got it few weeks ago. I got the quadrivalent version because I'm under 65. I encourage everyone who's eligible to do the same.

That's fair enough. You are consistent in your position.

But are others?

Milltown is being extremely evasive here. I wonder why that is? He wants to lecture to others about getting a Covid vaccine but doesn't see it as worthwhile doing his bit to stop spreading the flu.

Got the flu vaccine yeah. Get it every year even though I'm not in a vulnerable category.

I got it even though it's significantly less contagious than Covid, and is much less likely to overrun the health system than Covid.

All of which makes the argument for getting a Covid vaccine all the stronger

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 02:28:47 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Don't hold your breath for an answer.

None of those zealots have had the courage to answer me a question about when Covid becomes an acceptable risk to society like we accept seasonal flu?

It seems it doesn't matter if you die from flu. Tough luck seems to be their outlook. They are too thick to see the woods from the trees.

I see the cowards still haven't got the balls to answer this one?

Why do they mouth off and run from a fairly basic question like that? Why do your contradictions frighten you?

When you stop talking and linking Covid to flu..

You didn't answer the question.

We accept viruses in our society that kill, leave long lasting heath problems and overwhelm the health service, at what point those Covid become as acceptable a risk as those we do very little to counter?

At what point? Or are you too coward to admit to everyone that you couldn't give a toss about those who die from flu?

Do you get the flu vaccine? Yes or no.

A lot of uncomfortable truths here for a guy who is attempting to pontificate to others.

I don't fall into the category of the list I put up so there are more important people requiring it than me

I give a toss about everyone's life..

Having vaccinations have saved more lives so its important that a safe vaccine that's approved will be available for all virus's and people at risk

Any other uncomfortable questions on Covid?  as thats the flu covered

Sorry, for not getting back sooner, work and all that  ;D

as for answering about the vaccine and taking it.. Like I said already, on the original vaccine thread I answered that, first page I think
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

lenny

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 23, 2020, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 01:58:24 PM
Do all the people here who voted yes get their annual flu jab?

You only get the flu jab if you fall into a certain category I think

Anyone can get it but they some might get it for free whereas others pay. I'm open to correction on this.

Now, back to the questions. Those who voted yes and who seem to pushing their views that others should be getting a Covid vaccine when (more likely if) it comes on stream, do you get your annual flu jab?

Yes or no.

Yes. I got it few weeks ago. I got the quadrivalent version because I'm under 65. I encourage everyone who's eligible to do the same.

I got it also. Some people get an immune response which can take a day or 2 to get over. I had that the first year I got it but the last 3 or 4 years I've had no reaction at all and thankfully also I've avoided the flu. The flu vaccine is only about 50-60% effective but that's enough to ensure the NHS isn't overwhelmed in a normal year. The Covid vaccine is unlikely to be 100% effective but it should mean if you do get Covid you'll get a much milder dose.

Chief

Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Don't hold your breath for an answer.

None of those zealots have had the courage to answer me a question about when Covid becomes an acceptable risk to society like we accept seasonal flu?

It seems it doesn't matter if you die from flu. Tough luck seems to be their outlook. They are too thick to see the woods from the trees.

When

1) Covid becomes as broadly seasonal as the flu,
2) When it's contagious-ness is reduced to a level similar to flu,
3) When the death rates and hospitalisation rates are similar to flu, and
4) When we have a vaccine like we do for the flu?

Clear enough?

Angelo

Quote from: Chief on October 23, 2020, 02:52:17 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 23, 2020, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 01:58:24 PM
Do all the people here who voted yes get their annual flu jab?

You only get the flu jab if you fall into a certain category I think

Anyone can get it but they some might get it for free whereas others pay. I'm open to correction on this.

Now, back to the questions. Those who voted yes and who seem to pushing their views that others should be getting a Covid vaccine when (more likely if) it comes on stream, do you get your annual flu jab?

Yes or no.

Yes. I got it few weeks ago. I got the quadrivalent version because I'm under 65. I encourage everyone who's eligible to do the same.

That's fair enough. You are consistent in your position.

But are others?

Milltown is being extremely evasive here. I wonder why that is? He wants to lecture to others about getting a Covid vaccine but doesn't see it as worthwhile doing his bit to stop spreading the flu.

Got the flu vaccine yeah. Get it every year even though I'm not in a vulnerable category.

I got it even though it's significantly less contagious than Covid, and is much less likely to overrun the health system than Covid.

All of which makes the argument for getting a Covid vaccine all the stronger

Fair enough, you are consistent.

But all talk that Covid is worse than flu is speculative.

We don't test for flu. Covid is a novel virus.
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Angelo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 02:56:25 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2020, 02:28:47 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Don't hold your breath for an answer.

None of those zealots have had the courage to answer me a question about when Covid becomes an acceptable risk to society like we accept seasonal flu?

It seems it doesn't matter if you die from flu. Tough luck seems to be their outlook. They are too thick to see the woods from the trees.

I see the cowards still haven't got the balls to answer this one?

Why do they mouth off and run from a fairly basic question like that? Why do your contradictions frighten you?

When you stop talking and linking Covid to flu..

You didn't answer the question.

We accept viruses in our society that kill, leave long lasting heath problems and overwhelm the health service, at what point those Covid become as acceptable a risk as those we do very little to counter?

At what point? Or are you too coward to admit to everyone that you couldn't give a toss about those who die from flu?

Do you get the flu vaccine? Yes or no.

A lot of uncomfortable truths here for a guy who is attempting to pontificate to others.

I don't fall into the category of the list I put up so there are more important people requiring it than me

I give a toss about everyone's life..

Having vaccinations have saved more lives so its important that a safe vaccine that's approved will be available for all virus's and people at risk

Any other uncomfortable questions on Covid?  as thats the flu covered

Sorry, for not getting back sooner, work and all that  ;D

as for answering about the vaccine and taking it.. Like I said already, on the original vaccine thread I answered that, first page I think

Not sure if that's a yes or no?

You don't get the flu vaccine? Am I correct in saying that?

Maybe you should if you feel so strongly about protecting vulnerable people and saving lives rather than paying lip service to it?

The flu also kills, the flu also overwhelms the health service, the flu also causes long lasting health problems. Surely that matters something?
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Angelo

Quote from: Chief on October 23, 2020, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Don't hold your breath for an answer.

None of those zealots have had the courage to answer me a question about when Covid becomes an acceptable risk to society like we accept seasonal flu?

It seems it doesn't matter if you die from flu. Tough luck seems to be their outlook. They are too thick to see the woods from the trees.

When

1) Covid becomes as broadly seasonal as the flu,
2) When it's contagious-ness is reduced to a level similar to flu,
3) When the death rates and hospitalisation rates are similar to flu, and
4) When we have a vaccine like we do for the flu?

Clear enough?

Very vague and subjective there

We don't test for flu.

Can you quantify the death rates and hospitalisation rates?

We also know that covid related deaths are overstated, that Covid is classified as the cause of death when nothing suggests it was, there have been a number of examples of this and this has been acknowledged by health authorities and governments.

If we had 400 flu deaths a year, does that mean 400 annual Covid deaths is then deemed acceptable?

We have ramifications of lockdowns, are all these ramifications of lockdowns and the consequences self[-defeating if the damage done is far worse than saving 150 lives from Covid?

These are the questions and discussions we should be having free from hysterics and misrepresentations.

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Chief

Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 03:10:49 PM
Quote from: Chief on October 23, 2020, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: Angelo on October 23, 2020, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seaney on October 23, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Don't hold your breath for an answer.

None of those zealots have had the courage to answer me a question about when Covid becomes an acceptable risk to society like we accept seasonal flu?

It seems it doesn't matter if you die from flu. Tough luck seems to be their outlook. They are too thick to see the woods from the trees.

When

1) Covid becomes as broadly seasonal as the flu,
2) When it's contagious-ness is reduced to a level similar to flu,
3) When the death rates and hospitalisation rates are similar to flu, and
4) When we have a vaccine like we do for the flu?

Clear enough?

Very vague and subjective there

We don't test for flu.

Can you quantify the death rates and hospitalisation rates?

We also know that covid related deaths are overstated, that Covid is classified as the cause of death when nothing suggests it was, there have been a number of examples of this and this has been acknowledged by health authorities and governments.

If we had 400 flu deaths a year, does that mean 400 annual Covid deaths is then deemed acceptable?

We have ramifications of lockdowns, are all these ramifications of lockdowns and the consequences self[-defeating if the damage done is far worse than saving 150 lives from Covid?

These are the questions and discussions we should be having free from hysterics and misrepresentations.

A vaccine would reduce the need for lockdowns and all the collateral damage cause - a great reason to take a vaccine