More Dissident-Republican Activity

[armaghniac]

Isn't it sad that a Party gets criticised for supporting equal human rights for all humans?

Isn't it sad that the term 'human rights' is bandied to score points on a discussion board?

[BennyCake]

Isn't it sad that a Party gets criticised for supporting equal human rights for all humans?

I don't recall them campaigning for gay rights 20 years ago.

The world has moved on, well most of the world. There are still a few backward fools who think that obscure passages in an ancient much edited book should guide them instead. But like all slow learners they'll eventually get it.

To be fair, that's not the reason why everyone is against these gay rights/marriage.

[nrico2006]

Of course, it seems like every Tam Dick and Harry in the whole country is in favour of gay rights and abortion. Which is complete bollix.

What's your issue with gay people having equal rights Benny???

I didn't say I have an issue. It's the impression that SF give on it though. That the whole country is for it and the only ones against it is a dozen or so DUP members, which is completely untrue. There are plenty against it, but you just don't hear them speak out about it.

Have any prominent SF members spoke out against marriage equality etc in the past?

Not to my knowledge but I don't think they were always as pro LGBT rights as they are now

Populist bandwagon, and all that.

Have thought the same with SF the past few years.

[Rossfan]

Isn't it sad that a Party gets criticised for supporting equal human rights for all humans?

I don't recall them campaigning for gay rights 20 years ago.

The world has moved on, well most of the world. There are still a few backward fools who think that obscure passages in an ancient much edited book should guide them instead. But like all slow learners they'll eventually get it.

To be fair, that's not the reason why everyone is against these gay rights/marriage.

So what is the other reason(s).

PS I'm no Biblical scholar but I don't recall  any references to Jesus outlawing homosexualism.

[Wildweasel74]

20. Try having no political opinion on the issue even 5yrs ago. Now try to portrait themselves as the only party chasing parity of esteem.

[tonto1888]

Isn't it sad that a Party gets criticised for supporting equal human rights for all humans?

Isn't it sad that the term 'human rights' is bandied to score points on a discussion board?

And what is wrong with pointing out a groups lack of support for human rights? Unless you don't believe they are Human rights?

[tonto1888]

Isn't it sad that a Party gets criticised for supporting equal human rights for all humans?

Any criticism is for their apparent bandwagon jumping. Better mate than never if you ask me but they do give the impression they have always supported gay rights when that just isn't true

[Main Street]

Why are all those Nordies so against gay rights (which are human rights)?

In Ireland's marriage referendum 4 years ago, 734,300 people voted against it. That's almost 38% of voters.

Like I said before, whether in the north or south, not everyone is in favour of gay rights/marriage.

You just can't mention it in public or you would get lynched by the right on crowd and lose your job

Sounds like a better world to live in than the one where you could lose your job (or in the case of countries like Iran, your life) for being gay.

You are indulging in good old Islamophobia, gays are not killed for being gay in Iran, nevertheless, gays are at risk from the reactionary violence of homophobes/religious nutcases in many places around the world, including USA. 
In any case, unlike the state assisted murders of  Pat Finucane or Rosemary Nelson, Lyra was not murdered for who she was or what she stood for, she was just caught in the wrong place.   

[Don Johnson]

See a prominent dissident's house was shot up yesterday in Lurgan as well.

[GetOverTheBar]

See a prominent dissident's house was shot up yesterday in Lurgan as well.

Not hard to figure out who that was....Mr Duffy has been quiet by his own remarkable standards recently.

[tonto1888]

Why are all those Nordies so against gay rights (which are human rights)?

In Ireland's marriage referendum 4 years ago, 734,300 people voted against it. That's almost 38% of voters.

Like I said before, whether in the north or south, not everyone is in favour of gay rights/marriage.

You just can't mention it in public or you would get lynched by the right on crowd and lose your job

Sounds like a better world to live in than the one where you could lose your job (or in the case of countries like Iran, your life) for being gay.

You are indulging in good old Islamophobia, gays are not killed for being gay in Iran, nevertheless, gays are at risk from the reactionary violence of homophobes/religious nutcases in many places around the world, including USA. 
In any case, unlike the state assisted murders of  Pat Finucane or Rosemary Nelson, Lyra was not murdered for who she was or what she stood for, she was just caught in the wrong place.

There are anti homosexuality laws in Iran and the sentence is death

[Main Street]

Why are all those Nordies so against gay rights (which are human rights)?

In Ireland's marriage referendum 4 years ago, 734,300 people voted against it. That's almost 38% of voters.

Like I said before, whether in the north or south, not everyone is in favour of gay rights/marriage.

You just can't mention it in public or you would get lynched by the right on crowd and lose your job

Sounds like a better world to live in than the one where you could lose your job (or in the case of countries like Iran, your life) for being gay.

You are indulging in good old Islamophobia, gays are not killed for being gay in Iran, nevertheless, gays are at risk from the reactionary violence of homophobes/religious nutcases in many places around the world, including USA. 
In any case, unlike the state assisted murders of  Pat Finucane or Rosemary Nelson, Lyra was not murdered for who she was or what she stood for, she was just caught in the wrong place.

There are anti homosexuality laws in Iran and the sentence is death

Yes but homosexuals are not being killed for being homosexuals in Iran, as was claimed.

[tonto1888]

Why are all those Nordies so against gay rights (which are human rights)?

In Ireland's marriage referendum 4 years ago, 734,300 people voted against it. That's almost 38% of voters.

Like I said before, whether in the north or south, not everyone is in favour of gay rights/marriage.

You just can't mention it in public or you would get lynched by the right on crowd and lose your job

Sounds like a better world to live in than the one where you could lose your job (or in the case of countries like Iran, your life) for being gay.

You are indulging in good old Islamophobia, gays are not killed for being gay in Iran, nevertheless, gays are at risk from the reactionary violence of homophobes/religious nutcases in many places around the world, including USA. 
In any case, unlike the state assisted murders of  Pat Finucane or Rosemary Nelson, Lyra was not murdered for who she was or what she stood for, she was just caught in the wrong place.

There are anti homosexuality laws in Iran and the sentence is death

Yes but homosexuals are not being killed for being homosexuals in Iran, as was claimed.

So what are they being killed for?

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/twitter-account-of-dissident-group-saoradh-suspended-1.3870183

[Kickham csc]

Of course, it seems like every Tam Dick and Harry in the whole country is in favour of gay rights and abortion. Which is complete bollix.

What's your issue with gay people having equal rights Benny???

I didn't say I have an issue. It's the impression that SF give on it though. That the whole country is for it and the only ones against it is a dozen or so DUP members, which is completely untrue. There are plenty against it, but you just don't hear them speak out about it.

Have any prominent SF members spoke out against marriage equality etc in the past?

As a party, their 2015 manifesto was the only one in the North that expressly mentioned the rights of transgender people. So on the face of it, SF had already expanded the equality agenda to beyond a focus Irish culture position to  a broader human rights equality program in 2015