Trump's Disasters

Started by Orior, February 19, 2017, 04:09:07 PM

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seafoid

Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 09:05:02 PM
Quote from: whitey on February 20, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
Maybe if some of you experts on US Politics actually lived her for 20 or 30 years you might actually have some fvcking clue what you're talking about. Trump won fair and square.  The Democrats no longer represent the working class and will get a hammering in 2018 if they're not careful.The main stream media are a fvckin joke and are becoming less relevant by the day

I didn't vote for Trump and I think his candidacy was a fuckin joke, but it just shows how bad Hillary was if he beat her....even though she outspent him 2:1 and had a huge Electoral College advantage to begin with

I will make a prediction:  Trump is going to do just fine

Define "fine".
I think she's a prostitute
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

J70

Quote from: whitey on February 20, 2017, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 09:03:23 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 20, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 20, 2017, 02:24:06 PM
Right now Trump is like the corner back at the throw in, jabbing his marker in the ribs and throwing down an early marker.
He'll settle down soon enough and get on with doing nothing of any substance.

In fairness you could say the same about the media.

After 8 years of mr nice but boring, they've been handed manna from heaven in the form of someone who has little interest in protocols, manners or formalities. Throw into the bargain that he's from the end of the political spectrum that the media largely despises, and it's jackpot time.

But if the media have any professional pride at all they will soon have to revert to reporting his administration's performance in a largely objective way. Which won't fill anywhere near as many column inches.

Just what should this "objective" reporting look like, based on what we've seen in the first month from Trump?

Well for a start a NY Times reporter shouldn't be spreading false rumours that the First Lady was a prostitute. And a Time reporter shouldn't be claiming that Trump had removed a bust of MLK from the Oval Office on his first day in power......NEITHER of these arseholes got fired

THAT'S all you have?

Was it not the Daily Mail that spread that story? You know, the paper she sued THREE TIMES?

The paper that is far closer to YOU, politically, than any liberal?

The Time reporter corrected the story very quickly and set the record straight.

And seriously, that you would single out, again and again, the MLK bust story, as one of the problems with the press coverage, when the real source of the "problem" is the continuous doubling down on blatant lies and made-up bullshit by Trump and his stooges says more about your personal biases than it does about any press bias.

J70

Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 09:18:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on February 20, 2017, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 20, 2017, 02:57:43 PM
And right now he is trying to implement the dream platform of the far right, complete with bans of muslims, round-ups of illegal immigrants, tearing families apart in the process.

What part of illegal don't you understand. How can you tear a family apart if they shouldn't actually be there in the first place.

What part of deporting parents of American-born children, leaving the rest of the family behind, do you think is defensible and consistent with the supposed party of family values? Is deporting a woman in the states since her teens and leaving her American-born teenage kids without a mother not tearing a family apart?

Just because a loophole has been used doesn't mean they all get to stay. Granting passports to children of parents who are illegally in a country is madness.
No reason the kids can't go back with them. They can always return when they are older.

Its ok to rip kids suddenly from the only lives and society they've known and send them off to live in, what is for them, a foreign country, where who knows what kind of work their parents will get or if the kids even know the language?


Then that's on the parents to prepare them for their real life. Tough titty. You keep making excuses for people who have broken the law.

God forbid we look at them as people with "real lives" rather than as vacuous statistics who are not real people, just "criminals".

And I haven't "made excuses". I'm saying that sending jackbooted thugs, to use a favourite term of the right when it comes to government agents, out to round up busboys and cleaning ladies, ripping them away from their families, is NOT an appropriate response to the problem.


Boycey

Could we not just keep the squabbling about Trump to the one thread please?

Taylor

Potential the beginning of WW3.

One would nearly think there was an election this year

under the bar

Act of war without the authorisation of the UN or the Iraqi government.  Absolute ass-holes.

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Taylor on January 03, 2020, 07:35:47 AM
Potential the beginning of WW3.

One would nearly think there was an election this year

No.

Square Ball

Be interesting to see what Putin says about it. Wonder how many innocents will suffer because of these actions.
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

whitey

Well the problem is that no Democrat will be publicly supportive (or neutral) even if it is proven to be the correct decision. On top of that, the media will be far from neutral commentators on the incident

Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: whitey on January 03, 2020, 01:26:54 PM
Well the problem is that no Democrat will be publicly supportive (or neutral) even if it is proven to be the correct decision. On top of that, the media will be far from neutral commentators on the incident

Why was the decision taken to kill this man?

dec

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/255784560904773633

@realDonaldTrump
Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran.  He is desperate.
5:39 PM · Oct 9, 2012

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/379717298296086529

@realDonaldTrump
I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face!
5:23 PM · Sep 16, 2013

balladmaker

Quote from: dec on January 03, 2020, 01:36:13 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/255784560904773633

@realDonaldTrump
Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran.  He is desperate.
5:39 PM · Oct 9, 2012

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/379717298296086529

@realDonaldTrump
I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face!
5:23 PM · Sep 16, 2013

It's frightening stuff ..... when there's an election on the horizon let's bang the war drum

tbrick18

If another country did this to an American general, it would be an act of terrorism.
When America does it, its protecting American interests (usually this means oil, money or political control).
IMO, America are one of the worst purveyors of terrorism this planet has seen. Yet, they will portray themselves as the victims when Iran retaliate in some way.

I'm not for a second supporting Iran in this, but the United States of Assh*les really do not give a fook about anyone anywhere unless it lines their pockets or gives them more power.

Taylor

Quote from: tbrick18 on January 03, 2020, 01:58:01 PM
If another country did this to an American general, it would be an act of terrorism.
When America does it, its protecting American interests (usually this means oil, money or political control).
IMO, America are one of the worst purveyors of terrorism this planet has seen. Yet, they will portray themselves as the victims when Iran retaliate in some way.

I'm not for a second supporting Iran in this, but the United States of Assh*les really do not give a fook about anyone anywhere unless it lines their pockets or gives them more power.

And it is not like it is only Trump who is responsible.
A long list of Presidents before him have been responsible for a lot worse

five points

Quote from: tbrick18 on January 03, 2020, 01:58:01 PM
IMO, America are one of the worst purveyors of terrorism this planet has seen. 

You're clearly neither an Iranian woman nor gay man.