Brexit.

[imtommygunn]

The question is who got shafted.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

The question is who got shafted.

Looks like good deal for Brits,  no tariffs?

[Dubh driocht]

Best news of the day;

https://mobile.twitter.com/nealerichmond/status/1342148650512900098

Well done to Peter Sheridan, Michel Barnier and Irish government/civil servants

[bennydorano]

The question is who got shafted.

Looks like good deal for Brits,  no tariffs?

That is the essence (and basics) of a FTA, but at 2,000 pages long there's obviously much more to it. It's not an improvement on EU membership rights, so highly unlikely the UK has gained too much.  Plus, no financial services included in the deal, being dealt with separately.
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN28Y1EK?__twitter_impression=true

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

The question is who got shafted.

Looks like good deal for Brits,  no tariffs?

That is the essence (and basics) of a FTA, but at 2,000 pages long there's obviously much more to it. It's not an improvement on EU membership rights, so highly unlikely the UK has gained too much.  Plus, no financial services included in the deal, being dealt with separately.
https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN28Y1EK?__twitter_impression=true

I'm not well read on subject tbh.what did Brits lose out on?

[bennydorano]

The deal itself isn't available yet for joe public so Christ knows the intricacies of it all, but the linked graphic tweet shows the basic stuff the UK have lost immediately https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/status/1342137128042561538?s=19

[Milltown Row2]

Roaming charges back on!

[balladmaker]

The question is who got shafted.

UK shafted .... the penny will drop in the New Year when they realise the impact of Brexit on their 'precious' union.  The little Englanders can wallow in their delusions of empire and sovereignty, whilst the rest of us can hopefully get on with living and progressing our futures.  The north has come out of it well from an EU perspective, and the structure of the deal will further confirm that there is only one direction of travel for the island of Ireland, and that is unification.

[Main Street]

Roaming charges back on!

You have been shafted of your EU citizenry.
The country's now split between Brexit Irish and EU Irish, but hey, hands across the border.

[sid waddell]

Roaming charges back on!

You have been shafted of your EU citizenry.
The country's now split between Brexit Irish and EU Irish, but hey, hands across the border.

All people born in NI have the right to EU citizenship

NI students will still be able to participate in the Erasmus programme whereas those in Britain won't be able to

The Irish government have played a blinder throughout this whole process

But what a waste of time and energy for them

[armaghniac]

NI students will still be able to participate in the Erasmus programme whereas those in Britain won't be able to

Will they? Eramus works through institutions, not citizenship. A British person attending TCD can go on Erasmus, an Irish person attending UU probably cannot, unless there is an arrangement as part of the NI deal.

[sid waddell]

NI students will still be able to participate in the Erasmus programme whereas those in Britain won't be able to

Will they? Eramus works through institutions, not citizenship. A British person attending TCD can go on Erasmus, an Irish person attending UU probably cannot, unless there is an arrangement as part of the NI deal.

It seems if they go to NI colleges they'll be able to

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55442685

[Main Street]

Roaming charges back on!

You have been shafted of your EU citizenry.
The country's now split between Brexit Irish and EU Irish, but hey, hands across the border.

All people born in NI have the right to EU citizenship

NI students will still be able to participate in the Erasmus programme whereas those in Britain won't be able to

The Irish government have played a blinder throughout this whole process

But what a waste of time and energy for them

The Irish gov supposedly "playing a blinder"  has had absolutely no effect on the now diminished EU status of Irish citizens resident in NI.
To claim  that the irish gov has played a blinder is a con job. There is no special status for Irish Nationals living in the NI. If the Irish gov had said nothing argued nothing, the status would be the same
NI Irish nationals  will be treated just like any EU national living in a non EU country.  In other words, the EU (Irish) citizenry is passive until movement to an EU country where it becomes activated. For instance as long as one is resident in NI  there in no protection from the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.
The current withdrawl agreement 'does not provide any particular guarantees of the practical continuation of EU citizenship rights for those (EU Nationals) resident or working in Northern Ireland', at present there is just a promise of sorts in the withdrawl agreement. 

[armaghniac]

NI students will still be able to participate in the Erasmus programme whereas those in Britain won't be able to

Will they? Eramus works through institutions, not citizenship. A British person attending TCD can go on Erasmus, an Irish person attending UU probably cannot, unless there is an arrangement as part of the NI deal.

It seems if they go to NI colleges they'll be able to

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55442685

I hadn't seen that. However, if it is the case the Irish government is funding this then it is another case of the British getting away without doing a proper job.

[ardtole]

Word is that a free trade deal with EU has been agreed though nothing formally confirmed yet and no cabinet convened yet

No doubt the trawlermen will be the latest group to be shafted by Johnson after believing a load of bluster, just like the thick loyalist gobshites in the occupied six. Can't wait to see Francois, the blowhard's blowhard, and rest of ERG wankers going apeshit over his latest betrayal.

The trawlermen took the coin from the spanish and french for their quotas back in the day so their claim to sovereignty in their own waters is utter balls and needs called out for what it is.

51% of the Northern Ireland fishing quota is held by one boat but it's that big it can't dock in Kilkeel where it's registered to and docks in Killybegs.

Drove by the harbour in Portavogie a few weeks back on a Sunday afternoon and I'd say a good few of those boats aren't overly seaworthy and nowhere near the numbers in their hayday.

I would have worked at the portavogie fish market during the school holidays in the early to mid nineties, they would have had a fleet of close to 80 then I'd guess. I read somewhere recently that their fleet was approximately 20.

Definitely the strangest town/village i was ever in.

Still is but they now let us Katlics into the place 

Be a while before they have a hurling team all the same.