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Sure they have enough for a team so.

During Summer Holidays doubtful, always a few away or sick.  I would be very surprised if we won U15 , also not sure on Colts numbers they may be including U13's who won't be playing in Ballyroan as we tend to stick to age groups.

I think 16

We are tight on numbers at that age, for some reason.  As are Colt, the plan is to enter two teams at A & B.  BallyroanAbbey at U13 we're B they got knocked out at quarter final stage.  We were entering A, Colt came with a proposal I think the other clubs are with them barring Clough Ballacolla.  So we are now A & B with around 33 players total.

I agree on Ross,  but his not the reason we're not going well.  Just another signpost to mediocrity ( could be hopeful on that)

Is there a particular age that you think should be the cut-off point for a player's involvement with the county team? A mandatory retirement age?

Ross has spent 20 years looking after his health and fitness at elite levels, just in order to represent Laois (and with very little gain).

I don't think anyone could deny that he is still in the top 10 best forwards in the county.

I would normally try to ignore these nonsensical posts but Ross deserves a little more respect for what he has given to Laois and what he is continuing to give.

Absolute BS but you keep telling yourself this, his been about 50% the player he was for about 5-6 years maybe longer.  Pace is gone that's life, not big enough to throw himself about.  Sick of stupid argument he was great for years thus he can't be criticised and should remain on the panel.  His not up to it, nor is there anything to be gained by his continual involvement as a player.  I have no issue with him being part of the management as he has a lot to offer that way. 

You can think Ross is a legend but also think it's over.  I don't see any conflict with this thinking.

We are just in a bad place,  can't beat the first one on one physically.  We must of coughed the ball up 70% of the time in a tight tackle.  Bringing Ross on is not the solution to this,  I heard about the Kildare practice game but he is a shadow of the player he was.   To be honest his inclusion is an open joke at this stage,  there is only so long this can be defended.  Shoot me

[Sounds like you are waiting a lifetime to say that]

Shocking result, would be acceptable for hurling... not football.
Can't find any match report or lineup anywhere.

and theres the issue right there

some in the Football Fraternity labouring under the impression that football in the county is better than what it actually is

The Footballers got torn apart by a Division 4 Team today

Thats the level they are at

Sounds like you are waiting a lifetime to say that, I think it's counter productive to get into basically how bad the other is.   Neither are in a particularly good place.

As I have said for a long time now we won't solve anything till we look at the foundations of which we are built on but nobody seems to want to get into that. 

P.S Can't say I did not see yesterday coming and there will be more pain.

Quote from: Smellyball on October 09, 2021, 07:44:30 PM
If only the world knew that all the oracle's of football reside in the Laois GAA forum, there would never be a mistake made.
For people to post in here that Sheehans appointment is doomed to failure is ridiculous.
He probably wouldn't have been my first choice but I don't claim to to foresee the future and know it won't end well.
Perhaps part of the problem in Laois is all the whingeing and moaning that goes on in the background. An appointment has been made, if the county got behind the team the chances of success may improve.
For those claiming this is an awful appointment - out of interest, who was the last manager you were happy with when they were announced?
Quote from:  BallyroanAbu on Oct 10th 2021, 2:47:59 AM
Happy to oracle it, complete shit show but the definition of madness is to repeat the same thing and expect different results.  We can do better,  Jesus they have dragged us to a point where we think we deserve it.

Will ya listen to yourself and cop on

We've been on the slide since we decided we knew more than Micko and got shut of him, that wasn't today or yesterday

if not delusions of grandeur then delusions of respectability with some of the football crowd on here

from what I've seen at underage, there a massive failing in a lot of clubs in even getting the basics into their juvenile players. We punched above our weight for a few years at minor etc but that's long gone now as well.

We haven't hit rock bottom yet but its coming.

Don't disagree with you on the fact that we have not yet hit rock bottom,  I do agree our underage is struggling.  What I don't agree with is some sort who is better that who between Hurling and Football.  I would say both are not in a great place and needs massive investment and restructure.  How this is going to happen and when I have no clue.   

The O'Byrne is a pre season tournament, a blank canvas to try players out in new positions, to blood young players, experiment with tactics etc. Results in these type of competitions are irrelevant and if anything shipping a big defeat to Wexford (conceding 6 goals in the process) will mean the management/players will have learned a hell of a lot.

Laois are now firmly in transition, we need to accept that it will likely get worse, if not a lot worse before it will get better. We're at a very low ebb, so ignore short-termism and lets focus on mini victories or little gains. I don't mean results either btw, I mean the implementation of new tactics/brand of football, the emergence of new young players who may well catch the eye, an increased professionalism with a long term plan in place etc.

So when is this happening ?  I suppose I am trying to be smart but transition would be great if I could firmly see any plan to go forward.  There isn't and I am not sure anybody has the appetite or foresight to do this,  hopefully I am wrong. 

Shocking result, would be acceptable for hurling... not football.
Can't find any match report or lineup anywhere.

and theres the issue right there

some in the Football Fraternity labouring under the impression that football in the county is better than what it actually is

The Footballers got torn apart by a Division 4 Team today

Thats the level they are at

Sounds like you are waiting a lifetime to say that, I think it's counter productive to get into basically how bad the other is.   Neither are in a particularly good place.

As I have said for a long time now we won't solve anything till we look at the foundations of which we are built on but nobody seems to want to get into that. 

P.S Can't say I did not see yesterday coming and there will be more pain.

Quote from: Smellyball on October 09, 2021, 07:44:30 PM
If only the world knew that all the oracle's of football reside in the Laois GAA forum, there would never be a mistake made.
For people to post in here that Sheehans appointment is doomed to failure is ridiculous.
He probably wouldn't have been my first choice but I don't claim to to foresee the future and know it won't end well.
Perhaps part of the problem in Laois is all the whingeing and moaning that goes on in the background. An appointment has been made, if the county got behind the team the chances of success may improve.
For those claiming this is an awful appointment - out of interest, who was the last manager you were happy with when they were announced?
Quote from:  BallyroanAbu on Oct 10th 2021, 2:47:59 AM
Happy to oracle it, complete shit show but the definition of madness is to repeat the same thing and expect different results.  We can do better,  Jesus they have dragged us to a point where we think we deserve it.

Wide Wide Wide, it's a goal

I think the core mid 20s are turning down the opportunity to play under Billy en masse.

I disagree that we are at a crossroads,  we are gone a fair bit down the wrong road.   We have created a culture of apathy where nobody but few headbangers really care.  Our standards keep dropping and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.  Billy is not the cause of this but he is a symptom he should never have been facilitated as a player in Laois or as a Manager.  We have lost our identity if we ever had one  Micko,Liam K, Justin, TOF, Mike Quirke & Billy they serve their own agenda (as they rightly should) but we have lost everything.  Laois is not far off been Wicklow when we should be striving to be Meath.  Somewhere I hope somebody shouts stop.

Portlaoise to win,  I was so impressed by their first half against us.  Unreal stuff

Unfortunately for O Connell, it may not be the fairest decision but Portlaoise have to start with Brody.  When he puts his mind to it his one of the best keepers in the Country.  I heard him at the Water Break it's just different level,  O Connell would be thereabouts with every other team in the County.  It's just Brody is that good.

Fair play Portlaoise they were savage, we were poor.  Where Portlaoise stand I'm unsure maybe we made them look better than they are