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Title: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 28, 2021, 06:30:37 PM
There would have been some odds available for that particular pairing at the outset, but sin é.

Bring it on!  :)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: pbat on August 28, 2021, 06:35:16 PM
Both teams have a big liabilities that cant be dropped in O'Shea and Morgan. Don't think Mayo will be cute enough for Tyrone's
knackerism.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: lenny on August 28, 2021, 06:39:47 PM
Novel final pairing. Wonder when it’ll be on, probably 4 or 5 weeks time.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 28, 2021, 06:43:28 PM
Novel final pairing. Wonder when it’ll be on, probably 4 or 5 weeks time.

Saturday, September 11th, according to gaa.ie.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on August 28, 2021, 06:44:37 PM
Novel final pairing. Wonder when it’ll be on, probably 4 or 5 weeks time.

Saturday, September 11th, according to gaa.ie.
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Think lenny was trying to be smart. Better hope mayo don't have any covid cases between now and then.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2021, 06:46:26 PM
There would have been some odds available for that particular pairing at the outset, but sin é.

Bring it on!  :)

I got a 1. Mayo  2. Tyrone forecast at 50/1, only put three on it though
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 28, 2021, 06:49:02 PM
There would have been some odds available for that particular pairing at the outset, but sin é.

Bring it on!  :)

I got a 1. Mayo  2. Tyrone forecast at 50/1, only put three on it though

Good man!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on August 28, 2021, 06:49:12 PM
Call me childish but it's great to see the media get it so wrong. Talking about a Dublin Kerry final before a ball was kicked this year.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 28, 2021, 06:51:18 PM
Best of luck to Tyrone. Being the team to actually lose to Mayo in an AI Final would be a terrible burden to bear.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Estimator on August 28, 2021, 06:52:54 PM
There would have been some odds available for that particular pairing at the outset, but sin é.

Bring it on!  :)

22/1 before the Ulster Final
Stuck £2.50 on it.

Tyrone were 16/1 to win the AI at the time
Stuck £5 on that.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on August 28, 2021, 07:02:06 PM
Nice to see a match thread with the correct teams anyway!
 ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 28, 2021, 07:14:47 PM
It was energy-sapping for Tyrone today, that was their final really just beating 1 of the big 3 teams when it mattered. Mayo are primed and all the pieces of the jigsaw are in place. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyHarp on August 28, 2021, 07:18:06 PM
What happened the Mayo v Kerry All Ireland final thread?  ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2021, 07:20:58 PM
It was energy-sapping for Tyrone today, that was their final really just beating 1 of the big 3 teams when it mattered. Mayo are primed and all the pieces of the jigsaw are in place.

You could say it was mayo’s final too. I am not convinced either will be able to get up to the pace of their semi finals.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WhoDat on August 28, 2021, 07:24:37 PM
if mayo press tyrone's kickouts, morgan will crumble. he was a shambles today.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 28, 2021, 07:41:34 PM
if mayo press tyrone's kickouts, morgan will crumble. he was a shambles today.
Will hardly be a if, Mayo will press the Tyrone kickouts. If Tyrone management don't come up with a solution it will be the losing of this final for them.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 28, 2021, 07:51:22 PM
Drop O'Shea,? No way, he tailor made for the Tyrone Midfield especially the way Tyrone kicked long all day. Put him straight in at Midfield.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 28, 2021, 07:52:55 PM
I said u man who started the Mayo v Kerry thread was going to look a real dick, if things went pear shaped, lol.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Capt Pat on August 28, 2021, 07:57:58 PM
Mayo will be favourites imho. However the favourites lost both semi finals, who knows what way it will go.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 28, 2021, 08:00:07 PM
Mayo will be favourites imho. However the favourites lost both semi finals, who knows what way it will go.

Hmmm, but Tyrone knocked out the heretofore favourites so they'll probably be favourites for this game.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on August 28, 2021, 08:03:43 PM
Bookies have Mayo as 1 point favourites
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on August 28, 2021, 08:34:52 PM
Bookies have Mayo as 1 point favourites
0-13 to 0-12 scoreline won't surprise me.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fionntamhnach on August 28, 2021, 09:07:57 PM
Tyrone and Mayo have met five times in the history of the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship, Mayo currently lead with four victories to Tyrone's one.

1989 - Mayo 0-12 Tyrone 1-6 (Semi Final)
2004 - Mayo 0-16 Tyrone 1-9 (Quarter Final)
2008 - Tyrone 0-13 Mayo 1-9 (Round 3)
2013 - Mayo 1-16 Tyrone 0-13 (Semi Final)
2016 - Mayo 0-13 Tyrone 0-12 (Quarter Final)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on August 28, 2021, 09:25:15 PM
Best of luck to Tyrone. Being the team to actually lose to Mayo in an AI Final would be a terrible burden to bear.

Here, kid. Have you the EuroMillions numbers?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on August 28, 2021, 10:04:40 PM
Wife due to give birth to a boy the week after the final. We still don't have a name.

Theres an opening there if anyone wants to be a hero on September 11th!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on August 28, 2021, 10:07:47 PM
Bookies have Mayo as 1 point favourites
0-13 to 0-12 scoreline won't surprise me.

For the first time since 1951 Mayo will be favourites going into an AI final. They have a big chance this time around. For me it’s about as 50/50 a game as any final in a long time, it’s just too hard to call it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: An Watcher on August 28, 2021, 10:18:11 PM
Big opportunity for Mayo but also a big opportunity for Tyrone.  Fantastic to have a final without the dubs or kerry.  Donegal Mayo last one?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 28, 2021, 10:33:32 PM
Tyrone and Mayo have met five times in the history of the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship, Mayo currently lead with four victories to Tyrone's one.

1989 - Mayo 0-12 Tyrone 1-6 (Semi Final)
2004 - Mayo 0-16 Tyrone 1-9 (Quarter Final)
2008 - Tyrone 0-13 Mayo 1-9 (Round 3)
2013 - Mayo 1-16 Tyrone 0-13 (Semi Final)
2016 - Mayo 0-13 Tyrone 0-12 (Quarter Final)

Not good reading for Tyrone and held to low scores in each game. History to repeat itself once more?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 28, 2021, 10:37:02 PM
No, of course it's not good reading for Tyrone, but what possible bearing can that have in 2021?

And yes, I'm aware that League results are meaningless, when it comes to the Championship, so we need to prepare for the game of our lives in 2021, simple as that.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyHarp on August 28, 2021, 10:59:17 PM
Tyrone and Mayo have met five times in the history of the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship, Mayo currently lead with four victories to Tyrone's one.

1989 - Mayo 0-12 Tyrone 1-6 (Semi Final)
2004 - Mayo 0-16 Tyrone 1-9 (Quarter Final)
2008 - Tyrone 0-13 Mayo 1-9 (Round 3)
2013 - Mayo 1-16 Tyrone 0-13 (Semi Final)
2016 - Mayo 0-13 Tyrone 0-12 (Quarter Final)

Not good reading for Tyrone and held to low scores in each game. History to repeat itself once more?

Tyrone’s last few championship games v Kerry didn’t make for great reading either. I don’t think they’ll get too worked up about the above results
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: An Watcher on August 28, 2021, 11:01:40 PM
No All Ireland winners on either team but Mayo carrying a hell of alot more baggage with regards to losing them.  Hopefully Tyrone will be able to take advantage somehow
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: From the Bunker on August 28, 2021, 11:07:38 PM
No All Ireland winners on either team but Mayo carrying a hell of alot more baggage with regards to losing them.  Hopefully Tyrone will be able to take advantage somehow

Tyrone have had their fair share of coming up short the last decade! There is plenty of baggage there also, so get off of your high horse!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Armagh Girl on August 28, 2021, 11:15:30 PM
Congratulations to Tyrone on their Fantastic display today.  Thought McGeary had a great game and well deserved Man of Match (loved his interview)....Now you have to go on an Win it.....Good Luck for the Final as it is sure to be a great game!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on August 28, 2021, 11:25:19 PM
No All Ireland winners on either team but Mayo carrying a hell of alot more baggage with regards to losing them.  Hopefully Tyrone will be able to take advantage somehow

2016 U21 and 2013 minor All-Ireland winners on the Mayo team the latter was beating Tyrone in the final.

Tyrone won the U21 All-Ireland in 2015 with a simliar management team. A few won Minor All-Ireland medals in 2008 and 2010.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 28, 2021, 11:40:31 PM
Congratulations to Tyrone on their Fantastic display today.  Thought McGeary had a great game and well deserved Man of Match (loved his interview)....Now you have to go on an Win it.....Good Luck for the Final as it is sure to be a great game!

Thank you, Cailín Ard Mhacha!  :)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2021, 07:56:47 AM
Big opportunity for Mayo but also a big opportunity for Tyrone.  Fantastic to have a final without the dubs or kerry.  Donegal Mayo last one?

Yep. And the team that knocked Kerry out won that one. Plus Mayo lost two finals to Ulster opposition, Cavan in 1948 and the 2012 final. Could be another one in two weeks time too.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Estimator on August 29, 2021, 10:03:02 AM
I'd assume Gough will get the final. Lane and Coldrick got the two semi-finals.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on August 29, 2021, 10:11:01 AM
Mayo will be favourites imho. However the favourites lost both semi finals, who knows what way it will go.

Hmmm, but Tyrone knocked out the heretofore favourites so they'll probably be favourites for this game.
That will.suit Mayo. In 2001 the team that beat Kerry in the semifinal were unbackable in the final. The team from Connacht hammered them.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on August 29, 2021, 10:28:11 AM
If the 2 semi finals are anything to go by this will be a real war of attrition. Even though both sides had monumental victories against the odds in the semi final, both sides have a lot of improvement to make in terms of quality for the final. It is hard to quantify exactly the confidence boost that each side would have gained from their semi final victories but this shouldn’t be underestimated.

Mayo will have to decide whether to start O’Se and I suspect that they probably will. He was poor the last day but he does bring an enormous level of physicality, he just probably shouldn’t be deployed isolated close to goal. He is capable of winning a lot of ball around midfield against that Tyrone midfield and that is one area where Mayo would expect to come out on top.

Tyrone you would feel have to start Mc Shane based on yesterday’s cameo, without him
they would not have won that match and he brings a ball winning capability inside that McCurry can’t provide.

Both sides also now have to face a complete mindset change going into the final. Both will now see this as a great opportunity of lifting Sam and that brings a totally different pressure. Mayo possibly moreso as they are favourites going into a final for the first time in living memory.

The extra weeks will not really matter too much although a 4 week gap for Mayo is not ideal especially since I would imagine that a lot of their analysis and tactical work would have been predicated on them facing Kerry in the final.

Really difficult match to call but if the semi finals are anything to go by then it will be a bruising encounter as both sides play high octane physical games.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Armamike on August 29, 2021, 11:48:33 AM
Surely nobody could begrudge Mayo winning this one.

Will Mayo be happier they're not up against Dublin or Kerry? Would guess they won't have the same mental hangups playing Tyrone.

Tyrone are pretty mundane but they're well drilled, composed and efficient.  It's taken them this far. They won't lack self-belief.

Mayo should learn from Kerry's mistakes in over carrying the ball constantly into the middle of the Tyrone defence.

Would expect Mayo to be ravenous for this but hard one to call.  The law of averages says they have to eventually win one but it's hard to trust them in a final.  They're going to have to some way find that composure and clinical edge they've missed at key times in previous finals they should have won.

It's a final so as always, expect the unexpected.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Redhand Santa on August 29, 2021, 12:23:24 PM
No All Ireland winners on either team but Mayo carrying a hell of alot more baggage with regards to losing them.  Hopefully Tyrone will be able to take advantage somehow

Tyrone have had their fair share of coming up short the last decade! There is plenty of baggage there also, so get off of your high horse!

I didn’t think you followed the football itself anymore. Good to see you posting without mentioning Dublin or money.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2021, 12:32:16 PM
How many all Ireland finals have Tyrone lost? For me they don’t lose winnable finals - the Dublin one wasn’t winnable and this is going back a while but the 86 one wasn’t either. Kerry and Dublin were just too good. The three they won were touch and go if they would win but when it was tight they got it done.

This is a hard one to call. I think Mayo are a bit better but I expect them to be very nervous too which will level it out a bit. I have a feeling that will swing it tyrone’s way and they will win.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 29, 2021, 01:08:28 PM
If the 2 semi finals are anything to go by this will be a real war of attrition. Even though both sides had monumental victories against the odds in the semi final, both sides have a lot of improvement to make in terms of quality for the final. It is hard to quantify exactly the confidence boost that each side would have gained from their semi final victories but this shouldn’t be underestimated.

Mayo will have to decide whether to start O’Se and I suspect that they probably will. He was poor the last day but he does bring an enormous level of physicality, he just probably shouldn’t be deployed isolated close to goal. He is capable of winning a lot of ball around midfield against that Tyrone midfield and that is one area where Mayo would expect to come out on top.

Tyrone you would feel have to start Mc Shane based on yesterday’s cameo, without him
they would not have won that match and he brings a ball winning capability inside that McCurry can’t provide.

Both sides also now have to face a complete mindset change going into the final. Both will now see this as a great opportunity of lifting Sam and that brings a totally different pressure. Mayo possibly moreso as they are favourites going into a final for the first time in living memory.

The extra weeks will not really matter too much although a 4 week gap for Mayo is not ideal especially since I would imagine that a lot of their analysis and tactical work would have been predicated on them facing Kerry in the final.

Really difficult match to call but if the semi finals are anything to go by then it will be a bruising encounter as both sides play high octane physical games.
O'Sé was pretty poor alright in the last game but I believe he was carrying a heel injury into the game so that may be the reason for him being below par.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on August 29, 2021, 01:08:40 PM
How many all Ireland finals have Tyrone lost? For me they don’t lose winnable finals - the Dublin one wasn’t winnable and this is going back a while but the 86 one wasn’t either. Kerry and Dublin were just too good. The three they won were touch and go if they would win but when it was tight they got it done.

This is a hard one to call. I think Mayo are a bit better but I expect them to be very nervous too which will level it out a bit. I have a feeling that will swing it tyrone’s way and they will win.
The 95 final  produced great music.

https://youtu.be/cxeAr3n2Ous
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on August 29, 2021, 01:31:13 PM
How many all Ireland finals have Tyrone lost? For me they don’t lose winnable finals - the Dublin one wasn’t winnable and this is going back a while but the 86 one wasn’t either. Kerry and Dublin were just too good. The three they won were touch and go if they would win but when it was tight they got it done.

This is a hard one to call. I think Mayo are a bit better but I expect them to be very nervous too which will level it out a bit. I have a feeling that will swing it tyrone’s way and they will win.
The 95 final  produced great music.

https://youtu.be/cxeAr3n2Ous

Even before I clicked the link I knew what it was going to be. A classic tune.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2021, 01:35:09 PM
I forgot about 95. That was a very strange one with the redmond thing. Ok this century they have won the winnable ones lol.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: islamae on August 29, 2021, 03:15:13 PM
Big opportunity for Mayo but also a big opportunity for Tyrone.  Fantastic to have a final without the dubs or kerry.  Donegal Mayo last one?

Yep. And the team that knocked Kerry out won that one. Plus Mayo lost two finals to Ulster opposition, Cavan in 1948 and the 2012 final. Could be another one in two weeks time too.
Such an optimist😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Eire90 on August 29, 2021, 04:38:50 PM
a saturday final is great
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2021, 05:00:11 PM
The final none of the experts and few non experts predicted or expected.
It's a bit like the Best man and Bridesmaid turned up but the Bride and Groom didn't!
Won't bother either of the contestants.
People saying both will want a dogfight but maybe the Rhus would be better avoiding such as Tyrone more used to dogfights in Ulster.
Haven't commented on yesterday's game as I didn't see it being on Confirmation duties.
Syferus says that Coldrick was the difference giving Tyrone frees for things which he waved play on for when it happened the other way round.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Main Street on August 29, 2021, 05:19:13 PM
"The Dogs of Ulster" -   sounds good.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 29, 2021, 05:31:35 PM
...
Syferus says that Coldrick was the difference giving Tyrone frees for things which he waved play on for when it happened the other way round.

Your source is suspect, I'd say (Quelle surprise!) -- check out the respective scores from frees first, perhaps?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2021, 05:47:19 PM
You saying Syf got something wrong  :o
He predicted a handy win for Kerry too ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 29, 2021, 06:23:09 PM
You saying Syf got something wrong  :o
He predicted a handy win for Kerry too ;D

 ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ballinaman on August 29, 2021, 07:43:30 PM
A nice change of dressing rooms for our lads. M before T .

Will be a great game.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 29, 2021, 07:50:42 PM
Mayo firm favourites, that'll do!  :)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on August 29, 2021, 08:46:55 PM
I forgot about 95. That was a very strange one with the redmond thing. Ok this century they have won the winnable ones lol.
Tyrone had an exceptional team in the mid noughties. That hasn't been replicated yet.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2021, 10:13:28 PM
Tyrones to lose after that miraculous performance. The fitness levels were unreal. I think catching Covid has just improved them.

But if I was having a bet on this the draw looks a decent bet to have a flutter with. Both teams won’t have any hangups facing each other.

When is it? 2 weeks or will Tyrone ask for another extension?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Capt Pat on August 29, 2021, 10:29:31 PM
There is a house in Ballsbridge of all places with Mayo bunting out 2 weeks in advance of the final. Mayo are losing the run of themselves, they think they have won it already.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on August 29, 2021, 10:31:28 PM
There is a house in Ballsbridge of all places with Mayo bunting out 2 weeks in advance of the final. Mayo are losing the run of themselves, they think they have won it already.

If only Mayo bunting was enough, we'd have 20 or 30 All Irelands at this stage.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: From the Bunker on August 29, 2021, 10:32:44 PM
There is a house in Ballsbridge of all places with Mayo bunting out 2 weeks in advance of the final. Mayo are losing the run of themselves, they think they have won it already.

That's Ballymun Kickhams fans getting ready for the Dublin Championship.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on August 29, 2021, 10:33:12 PM
Any white and red sheep yet?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cavan19 on August 30, 2021, 08:33:10 AM
There is a house in Ballsbridge of all places with Mayo bunting out 2 weeks in advance of the final. Mayo are losing the run of themselves, they think they have won it already.

I don't think one house in Ballsbridge with bunting out can be classified as Mayo losing the run of themselves.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on August 30, 2021, 09:20:52 AM
There is a house in Ballsbridge of all places with Mayo bunting out 2 weeks in advance of the final. Mayo are losing the run of themselves, they think they have won it already.

That's Ballymun Kickhams fans getting ready for the Dublin Championship.
Could be a Portuguese family otherwise
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 30, 2021, 11:28:34 AM
There is a house in Ballsbridge of all places with Mayo bunting out 2 weeks in advance of the final. Mayo are losing the run of themselves, they think they have won it already.

That's Ballymun Kickhams fans getting ready for the Dublin Championship.
Could be a Portuguese family otherwise
Could be a Ballymun supporter but, somehow, I doubt it.
Ballymun is a long way from Balls bridge and hoodies and trainers are the formal dress attire. Hush puppies and designer gear are de either in the leafy suburb of Balls ridge.


Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 30, 2021, 11:30:39 AM
There is a house in Ballsbridge of all places with Mayo bunting out 2 weeks in advance of the final. Mayo are losing the run of themselves, they think they have won it already.

That's Ballymun Kickhams fans getting ready for the Dublin Championship.
Could be a Portuguese family otherwise
Could be a Ballymun supporter but, somehow, I doubt it.
Ballymun is a long way from Balls bridge and hoodies and trainers are the formal dress attire. Hush puppies and designer gear are de either in the leafy suburb of Balls ridge.
Damn predictive spelling spelling! ;D  ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 30, 2021, 02:59:52 PM
There is a house in Ballsbridge of all places with Mayo bunting out 2 weeks in advance of the final. Mayo are losing the run of themselves, they think they have won it already.

Quick, lock them up!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 30, 2021, 03:36:44 PM
What a final to look forward to now. I'm living on the Sligo Mayo border here and so many of my close mates being Mayo men as well as my boss and manager puts some spice on this for me. The final is being played on my birthday too!!

I think the bookies have this one right at the moment with Mayo being slight favourites but there's really very little in it. Mayo are 5/6 and Tyrone are 11/8 so not huge favourites. Probably about right


Two teak tough teams with no shortage of talent in defense and attack. I can't wait!

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: JoG2 on August 30, 2021, 04:15:18 PM
What a final to look forward to now. I'm living on the Sligo Mayo border here and so many of my close mates being Mayo men as well as my boss and manager puts some spice on this for me. The final is being played on my birthday too!!

I think the bookies have this one right at the moment with Mayo being slight favourites but there's really very little in it. Mayo are 5/6 and Tyrone are 11/8 so not huge favourites. Probably about right


Two teak tough teams with no shortage of talent in defense and attack. I can't wait!

Has the ref been named yet? Can't see any other ref allowing as much to go in the next game. It'll be all on the day, Tyrone maybe slight underdogs, but a couple of goals and anything can happen. The game will be relentless, that's for sure. Up Mayo
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 30, 2021, 04:23:28 PM
They announced the hurling ref on the Tuesday two weeks before the final so I presume they will announce the football ref tomorrow.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on August 30, 2021, 04:56:45 PM
What a final to look forward to now. I'm living on the Sligo Mayo border here and so many of my close mates being Mayo men as well as my boss and manager puts some spice on this for me. The final is being played on my birthday too!!

I think the bookies have this one right at the moment with Mayo being slight favourites but there's really very little in it. Mayo are 5/6 and Tyrone are 11/8 so not huge favourites. Probably about right


Two teak tough teams with no shortage of talent in defense and attack. I can't wait!

Has the ref been named yet? Can't see any other ref allowing as much to go in the next game. It'll be all on the day, Tyrone maybe slight underdogs, but a couple of goals and anything can happen. The game will be relentless, that's for sure. Up Mayo

Joe McQuillian favourite to referee.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2021, 05:24:34 PM
Mayo deserve to be favourites purely based on the two semi finals and that they took out the team that many didn't think would be beaten this year.


Downfall in AI finals for Mayo under Horan was conceding goals.

2012 v Donegal 2-11 to 0-13 (13 scores each)
2013 v Dublin 2-12 to 1-14 (14 scores v 15)
2020 v Dublin 2-14 to 0-15 (16 scores v 15)

If Tyrone are to win the final i feel they'll have to score at least 2 goals, easier said that done especially if Mayo defend as well as they did against Dublin.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: joemamas on August 30, 2021, 05:30:55 PM
What a final to look forward to now. I'm living on the Sligo Mayo border here and so many of my close mates being Mayo men as well as my boss and manager puts some spice on this for me. The final is being played on my birthday too!!

I think the bookies have this one right at the moment with Mayo being slight favourites but there's really very little in it. Mayo are 5/6 and Tyrone are 11/8 so not huge favourites. Probably about right


Two teak tough teams with no shortage of talent in defense and attack. I can't wait!

Has the ref been named yet? Can't see any other ref allowing as much to go in the next game. It'll be all on the day, Tyrone maybe slight underdogs, but a couple of goals and anything can happen. The game will be relentless, that's for sure. Up Mayo

Joe McQuillian favourite to referee.

Thanks hoynevalley, Kerry for Sam, Eire 90, Thegreatest, Macker 15, ck_Redhand, Cobra and all your other aliases, Get lost for the next two weeks Kerry were beaten. you are a complete tool.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 30, 2021, 05:32:05 PM
What a final to look forward to now. I'm living on the Sligo Mayo border here and so many of my close mates being Mayo men as well as my boss and manager puts some spice on this for me. The final is being played on my birthday too!!

I think the bookies have this one right at the moment with Mayo being slight favourites but there's really very little in it. Mayo are 5/6 and Tyrone are 11/8 so not huge favourites. Probably about right


Two teak tough teams with no shortage of talent in defense and attack. I can't wait!

Has the ref been named yet? Can't see any other ref allowing as much to go in the next game. It'll be all on the day, Tyrone maybe slight underdogs, but a couple of goals and anything can happen. The game will be relentless, that's for sure. Up Mayo

Joe McQuillian favourite to referee.
Dublin Joe.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Estimator on August 30, 2021, 05:41:24 PM
Last few years of AI Final Refs:
2020: David Coldrick
2019: David Gough & Conor Lane
2018: Conor Lane
2017: Joe McQuillan
2016: Conor Lane & Maurice Deegan
2015: David Coldrick
2014: Eddie Kinsella
2013: Joe McQuillan
2012: Maurice Deegan
2011: Joe McQuillan
2010: David Coldrick

McQuillan - 3
Coldrick - 3
Lane - 3
Deegan - 2
Gough - 1
Eddie Kinsella - 1

I'd say Gough will be the man to take charge this time. Lane & Coldrick got the semi-finals - Gough wasn't involved (not on the line). Can't see the GAA dropping someone else in who hasn't been in charge of a previous final. And McQuillan already has 3 finals to his name.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WhoDat on August 30, 2021, 05:48:47 PM
mayo are in a great position to win this
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on August 30, 2021, 05:56:29 PM
What a final to look forward to now. I'm living on the Sligo Mayo border here and so many of my close mates being Mayo men as well as my boss and manager puts some spice on this for me. The final is being played on my birthday too!!

I think the bookies have this one right at the moment with Mayo being slight favourites but there's really very little in it. Mayo are 5/6 and Tyrone are 11/8 so not huge favourites. Probably about right


Two teak tough teams with no shortage of talent in defense and attack. I can't wait!

Has the ref been named yet? Can't see any other ref allowing as much to go in the next game. It'll be all on the day, Tyrone maybe slight underdogs, but a couple of goals and anything can happen. The game will be relentless, that's for sure. Up Mayo

Joe McQuillian favourite to referee.

Oh Christ. Dublin will definitely   win then. I don’t know how, but Joe will find a way to make it happen
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 30, 2021, 06:02:01 PM
Last few years of AI Final Refs:
2020: David Coldrick
2019: David Gough & Conor Lane
2018: Conor Lane
2017: Joe McQuillan
2016: Conor Lane & Maurice Deegan
2015: David Coldrick
2014: Eddie Kinsella
2013: Joe McQuillan
2012: Maurice Deegan
2011: Joe McQuillan
2010: David Coldrick

McQuillan - 3
Coldrick - 3
Lane - 3
Deegan - 2
Gough - 1
Eddie Kinsella - 1

I'd say Gough will be the man to take charge this time. Lane & Coldrick got the semi-finals - Gough wasn't involved (not on the line). Can't see the GAA dropping someone else in who hasn't been in charge of a previous final. And McQuillan already has 3 finals to his name.

That's probably right. Lane wont get it after the messing in the semi with no stopping the game more than anything I'd say.

I do think Gough is a very good ref but he tends to try to make it all about himself. If he'd relax a bit and stop trying to prove he's got eyes on the back of his head he'd be the best by a mile.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on August 30, 2021, 06:39:10 PM
What a final to look forward to now. I'm living on the Sligo Mayo border here and so many of my close mates being Mayo men as well as my boss and manager puts some spice on this for me. The final is being played on my birthday too!!

I think the bookies have this one right at the moment with Mayo being slight favourites but there's really very little in it. Mayo are 5/6 and Tyrone are 11/8 so not huge favourites. Probably about right


Two teak tough teams with no shortage of talent in defense and attack. I can't wait!

Has the ref been named yet? Can't see any other ref allowing as much to go in the next game. It'll be all on the day, Tyrone maybe slight underdogs, but a couple of goals and anything can happen. The game will be relentless, that's for sure. Up Mayo

Joe McQuillian favourite to referee.
Dublin Joe.

I think he lost that title in 2012 when James Horan called him out. Very generous to Mayo since.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on August 30, 2021, 06:43:41 PM
mayo are in a great position to win this

I would have Mayo as strong favourites.  Didn't play well against the dubs but got the result.  Sign of a good team.. The extra 2 week rest will benefit against a tired Tyrone team.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on August 30, 2021, 07:59:12 PM
The result all hinges on who Thomas O Se doesn't pick as winner. He reckons Kerry wont win an All Ireland with the current management team, Kerry county board should stick with them so ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WhoDat on August 30, 2021, 08:04:23 PM
mayo are in a great position to win this

I would have Mayo as strong favourites.  Didn't play well against the dubs but got the result.  Sign of a good team.. The extra 2 week rest will benefit against a tired Tyrone team.

the 4 week break will have been a blessing in disguise for them. 2 weeks to get the bodies and minds back in order after the dublin game, and now 2 weeks to focus on opposition. normally i would say a 2 week turnaround between games is ideal, but both semifinals were physically and emotionally draining for the winners, and tyrone now only have the two weeks to rest the bodies and refocus the minds. now maybe they'll bounce on with the momentum, but i just feel it could come a little too quick for them and mayo are in a really good position now to get this right.

i also just feel mayo have the superior individuals in their squad and there is no baggage with those young lads. it'll be a close one but it's really mayo's best opportunity in years.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Muck Savage on August 30, 2021, 08:15:12 PM
2 weeks ago Tyrone were ravaged with Covid and only got the full squad together last Tuesday for the first time in 3-4 week. Based on performance the put out with 1 weeks work think of what they can do with 2 weeks work. Tyrones to lose
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2021, 08:29:26 PM
Nothing between them. They could play 100 times and win 50 each.
This will all come down to small things on the day, whoever gets the bit of luck.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 30, 2021, 08:30:21 PM
I don't really buy the whole Mayo facing a tired Tyrone team thing. If Mayo win it won't be because Tyrone lacked fitness.

Both have had 4 games now, Tyrone had a handy day against Cavan but had it gradually more difficult since then with Donegal being close for good parts of it then Monaghan only winning by a point and Kerry going to extra time. They now have two weeks to prepare for the final. I'd say covid issues to one side that's pretty much exactly the kind of build up to a final you'd want to have.

Mayo pretty similar, 2 very easy games to Leitrim and Sligo, Galway had them under pressure for a half before they pulled away then a real battle with extra time against Dublin. Mayo have had 4 weeks to prepare so maybe might get one or two guys back from injury they wouldn't have otherwise had but really it's not a huge advantage to them over the two weeks Tyrone have.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 30, 2021, 08:31:36 PM
mayo are in a great position to win this

I would have Mayo as strong favourites.  Didn't play well against the dubs but got the result.  Sign of a good team.. The extra 2 week rest will benefit against a tired Tyrone team.

Outscored Dublin 0-13 to 0-4 in the final 55 minutes of the game. The very definition of playing well and why they got the result.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 30, 2021, 08:39:05 PM
I'm fairly sure the analysis after the Dublin Vs Mayo game was that neither team played particularly well and that Kerry would have been well able to either of them. It would seem that a few weeks and the fact they're now facing Tyrone and not Kerry has seen that Mayo performance being retrospectively moved to a fantastic performance.

Don't get me wrong, they were good, you have to be to beat Dublin, but there was a load of errors in there too. 7 points down at half time, a retaken 45 to gain a draw, some of the easiest frees and marks missed you could ever see (given the stick Morgan is getting for missing a few 45's that would be a big surprise that Mayo's frailties there are not discussed more).
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 30, 2021, 08:48:50 PM
Nothing between them. They could play 100 times and win 50 each.
This will all come down to small things on the day, whoever gets the bit of luck.

This sums it up for me too. It's great for people who have no skin in the game, but it's heart-rivetting stuff for us who do!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on August 30, 2021, 10:13:20 PM
mayo are in a great position to win this

I would have Mayo as strong favourites.  Didn't play well against the dubs but got the result.  Sign of a good team.. The extra 2 week rest will benefit against a tired Tyrone team.

Outscored Dublin 0-13 to 0-4 in the final 55 minutes of the game. The very definition of playing well and why they got the result.

Sorry I meant Mayo forwards didnt play well in normal time. Only scores 0-4. They stepped up in extra time.  Tommy Conroy in particular stood up. Other years he would of been taken off early.  James Horan justified on keeping him on.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on August 30, 2021, 10:27:07 PM
David Brady reckons Cillian O'Connor could make appearance off the bench. Cillian deserves to be on pitch when Mayo win their All Ireland.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WhoDat on August 30, 2021, 10:43:25 PM
I'm fairly sure the analysis after the Dublin Vs Mayo game was that neither team played particularly well and that Kerry would have been well able to either of them. It would seem that a few weeks and the fact they're now facing Tyrone and not Kerry has seen that Mayo performance being retrospectively moved to a fantastic performance.

Don't get me wrong, they were good, you have to be to beat Dublin, but there was a load of errors in there too. 7 points down at half time, a retaken 45 to gain a draw, some of the easiest frees and marks missed you could ever see (given the stick Morgan is getting for missing a few 45's that would be a big surprise that Mayo's frailties there are not discussed more).

i think mayo showed huge bottle towards the end of the second half and the extra time against dublin. some of their subs were fantastic, the hession lad in particular. their conditioning, while always terrific for the last 10 years, was maybe the first time ever ahead of dublin's. i don't think kerry would have been able for them and if there's any retrospective going on since the tyrone game, it's that kerry were clearly immensely overrated from the off. one dimensional and too reliant on one or two players.

i think morgan's kickouts were very dodgy the last day and if i were a tyrone supporter i'd be worried about him under the mayo press.

that said, mayo took a while to get going against both galway and dublin, and if they fall behind like that again, tyrone could shut up shop. however, people said that would would happen to them against dublin - that they'd concede a big lead to dublin and then the dubs would just play keep ball and see out the game. didn't happen in the end, they clawed it back. they don't seem to panic very much in these seemingly crisis situations. kerry looked panicked and all over the shop the last day. i just don't see mayo getting caught in the headlights like that.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Tubberman on August 30, 2021, 10:46:07 PM
David Brady reckons Cillian O'Connor could make appearance off the bench. Cillian deserves to be on pitch when Mayo win their All Ireland.

Brady says a lot of things. It won't happen.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 30, 2021, 11:09:00 PM
Cillian O'Connor and Aidan O'Shea are the Mayo heroes. Sure they may as well have carried the team past Dublin by themselves.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 30, 2021, 11:46:52 PM
Am I dreaming or did one of the commentators or pundits in the mayo Dublin game not say something about O'Shea having only scored a couple of points in all his games against Dublin??
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: highorlow on August 30, 2021, 11:48:01 PM
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Cillian O'Connor and Aidan O'Shea are the Mayo heroes. Sure they may as well have carried the team past Dublin by themselves.

They should do like the World Cup and have Kerry v Dublin play a curtain raiser for the final for the 3rd place spot.

Shur open a thread there buck on that and have a good chat to yourself. Clown .
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2021, 12:05:37 AM
Am I dreaming or did one of the commentators or pundits in the mayo Dublin game not say something about O'Shea having only scored a couple of points in all his games against Dublin??

There is such a queue of prolific scorers v Dublin in championship the last decade, it's quiet surprising how poor he has been. I mean i can think of at least one over that period.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2021, 07:12:03 AM
Cillian O'Connor and Aidan O'Shea are the Mayo heroes. Sure they may as well have carried the team past Dublin by themselves.

If it's not Monaghan you're obsessed with, it's Mayo. Moron.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on August 31, 2021, 07:23:30 AM
Cillian O'Connor and Aidan O'Shea are the Mayo heroes. Sure they may as well have carried the team past Dublin by themselves.

Will never truly understand the disdain some of ye have for them two bucks . Cillian takes no shit and refuses to ever be bullied on the pitch, for some reason that gets to some . Aido I dunno,  hes never been described as a dirty player , it must be the media profile he has that gets to some .

Either way they owe Mayo nothing , gave it their all and will do so again. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on August 31, 2021, 09:39:35 AM
I think that O Shea is due a big game in the final. A player of his status does not underperform to that level 2 games in a row.  You could see a Canavan role ala 03 captaincy. On off and on again to see it out.  Mayo just might have that up their sleeves. They nearly done it in the semi final but they froze when it came to bringing him on again... 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on August 31, 2021, 09:42:47 AM
Wife due to give birth to a boy the week after the final. We still don't have a name.

Theres an opening there if anyone wants to be a hero on September 11th!

Dazzler it is then..
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on August 31, 2021, 10:05:44 AM
I think that O Shea is due a big game in the final. A player of his status does not underperform to that level 2 games in a row.  You could see a Canavan role ala 03 captaincy. On off and on again to see it out.  Mayo just might have that up their sleeves. They nearly done it in the semi final but they froze when it came to bringing him on again...

If Horan had any doubts about playing O’Shea, they’d have been thoroughly extinguished when watching Tyrone’s midfield get decimated in the semi-final. Aidan wouldn’t quite have David Moran’s aerial ability, but his hands and physical presence in that sector will be more than anything Tyrone can throw at him. I’d expect O’Shea will play the full match between the 65s, with DOC going to 11 to counterbalance McGeary’s insane running, and Loftus going to wing forward.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: redzone on August 31, 2021, 10:07:43 AM
Wife due to give birth to a boy the week after the final. We still don't have a name.

Theres an opening there if anyone wants to be a hero on September 11th!

Dazzler it is then..
If I know Dazzler.....
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on August 31, 2021, 10:15:36 AM
Tyone have lads in their dressing room who know what its like to win a senior all ireland medal, mayo do not. Will that have any influence on things on the day?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on August 31, 2021, 10:23:18 AM
Wont matter, all lessons have been learned. both teams have played poorly in all ireland finals in the last 3/4 years. All players have had that empty feeling of leaving it behind,  all players will know what they need to do personally to perform at their best.
and then you have the likes of Keegan, Mc Geary (my player of the year) who just get stuck and never leave it behind them.
its 50/50 no matter what way I look at it and there hasn't been a final on this type of knife edge since 2012.   
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on August 31, 2021, 10:40:26 AM
Tyone have lads in their dressing room who know what its like to win a senior all ireland medal, mayo do not. Will that have any influence on things on the day?

I’m probably being unnecessarily twisty here. But do you think Mayo would have a better chance of winning an AI if Horan invited Kevin Walsh and Padraic Joyce into the fold for the next fortnight? Or is maybe being a great player in a great team, of no benefit as a manager?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on August 31, 2021, 10:57:38 AM
David Brady reckons Cillian O'Connor could make appearance off the bench. Cillian deserves to be on pitch when Mayo win their All Ireland.

Brady says a lot of things. It won't happen.

He was right about Cluxton before the media got wind of it. The AI final will be decided on fine margins. If O'Connor was even fit for 10 minutes at the end of the match then Mayo would be foolish not to consider putting him on the bench.   
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on August 31, 2021, 11:11:43 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-did-kerry-expect-tyrone-to-line-up-as-they-had-in-killarney-1.4659937

Tyrone are so comfortable on the ball. Is there a better support running team? Their conditioning is clearly superb. The Covid illness was not a factor. They got stronger in extra-time. Their one big worry is that they were destroyed on the kick out. Their saving grace was the turnover count.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on August 31, 2021, 11:14:45 AM
David Brady reckons Cillian O'Connor could make appearance off the bench. Cillian deserves to be on pitch when Mayo win their All Ireland.

Brady says a lot of things. It won't happen.

He was right about Cluxton before the media got wind of it. The AI final will be decided on fine margins. If O'Connor was even fit for 10 minutes at the end of the match then Mayo would be foolish not to consider putting him on the bench.

I'd hazard a guess tubberman knows better  than brady where cillian is up to .
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Halfquarter on August 31, 2021, 11:23:39 AM
Cillian O'Connor and Aidan O'Shea are the Mayo heroes. Sure they may as well have carried the team past Dublin by themselves.

Sour grapes are best eaten in silence.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on August 31, 2021, 11:58:41 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-did-kerry-expect-tyrone-to-line-up-as-they-had-in-killarney-1.4659937

Tyrone are so comfortable on the ball. Is there a better support running team? Their conditioning is clearly superb. The Covid illness was not a factor. They got stronger in extra-time. Their one big worry is that they were destroyed on the kick out. Their saving grace was the turnover count.
I think you can see that the COVID hampered their preparations to the point that there were loads of technical mistakes, it was a serious shift put in, but they made loads of mistakes often of their own doing. The full forward line and midfield were at sea for long periods of the game, also due to Kerrys excellence in those areas, however I think if they stay COVID free they can only improve and would need to to match the peoples favourites Mayo.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Taylor on August 31, 2021, 12:49:13 PM
Mayo are favourites for the game which is very strange.

Can only assume its because of the weight of money that has been put on Mayo.

This is a straight up coin toss.

The chaotic element of the game which Kerry failed to cope with will not phase Mayo but then again have Mayo faced anything like the hunger we bring to the table.

Cant wait for it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 31, 2021, 12:52:33 PM
Am I dreaming or did one of the commentators or pundits in the mayo Dublin game not say something about O'Shea having only scored a couple of points in all his games against Dublin??
You're not dreaming, I'm afraid.
I checked Willie Joe's results archive and it appears that Aido only scored a single point aginst the Dubs in finals and semis. That was in the 2015 replay.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2021, 12:58:29 PM
Any white and red sheep yet?

Plenty with red markings on them all over Mayo.  :P
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on August 31, 2021, 01:32:13 PM
Farr
What way or is it still too early for ticket talk around your way.. Does anyone know did it work out ok for Limerick Cork supporters?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2021, 01:49:37 PM
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Senior Clubs – 16 * 118 -= 1888

Intermediate Clubs – 15 * 98 = 1470

Junior Clubs – 15 * 80 = 1200

Each club receives 10 tickets for evey player on panel = 410

Ten extra tickets for major urban centres -= 30

9 top selling clubs in Club Development Draw = 54

Total Tickets given to football clubs to allocate – 5,052

Total tickets as per secretary on Midwest today – 10.950

Exclusive Hurling Clubs, Players, Officials and County Board Officers, Coaches amd Corporate all have to be looked after from the remaining 5898 tickets.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2021, 01:50:37 PM
Above posted on mayogaablog by REDCOL formerly of this parish.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on August 31, 2021, 02:25:04 PM
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Senior Clubs – 16 * 118 -= 1888

Intermediate Clubs – 15 * 98 = 1470

Junior Clubs – 15 * 80 = 1200

Each club receives 10 tickets for evey player on panel = 410

Ten extra tickets for major urban centres -= 30

9 top selling clubs in Club Development Draw = 54

Total Tickets given to football clubs to allocate – 5,052

Total tickets as per secretary on Midwest today – 10.950

Exclusive Hurling Clubs, Players, Officials and County Board Officers, Coaches amd Corporate all have to be looked after from the remaining 5898 tickets.

Gonna be some rows in clubhouses up and down Mayo this week, especially the junior clubs. Giving more to senior clubs is crazy.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Redhand Santa on August 31, 2021, 02:48:17 PM
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Senior Clubs – 16 * 118 -= 1888

Intermediate Clubs – 15 * 98 = 1470

Junior Clubs – 15 * 80 = 1200

Each club receives 10 tickets for evey player on panel = 410

Ten extra tickets for major urban centres -= 30

9 top selling clubs in Club Development Draw = 54

Total Tickets given to football clubs to allocate – 5,052

Total tickets as per secretary on Midwest today – 10.950

Exclusive Hurling Clubs, Players, Officials and County Board Officers, Coaches amd Corporate all have to be looked after from the remaining 5898 tickets.

Gonna be some rows in clubhouses up and down Mayo this week, especially the junior clubs. Giving more to senior clubs is crazy.

Never mind the junior clubs, 5,898 tickets not going to clubs in the county sounds like a lot!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on August 31, 2021, 02:49:35 PM
Sounds very high alright.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cobra on August 31, 2021, 03:20:50 PM
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Senior Clubs – 16 * 118 -= 1888

Intermediate Clubs – 15 * 98 = 1470

Junior Clubs – 15 * 80 = 1200

Each club receives 10 tickets for evey player on panel = 410

Ten extra tickets for major urban centres -= 30

9 top selling clubs in Club Development Draw = 54

Total Tickets given to football clubs to allocate – 5,052

Total tickets as per secretary on Midwest today – 10.950

Exclusive Hurling Clubs, Players, Officials and County Board Officers, Coaches amd Corporate all have to be looked after from the remaining 5898 tickets.

There would be war if this goes on Tyrone.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 31, 2021, 03:56:27 PM
Am I dreaming or did one of the commentators or pundits in the mayo Dublin game not say something about O'Shea having only scored a couple of points in all his games against Dublin??
You're not dreaming, I'm afraid.
I checked Willie Joe's results archive and it appears that Aido only scored a single point aginst the Dubs in finals and semis. That was in the 2015 replay.

Hard to fathom for a player of his caliber having played in so many of those contests. I've seen that man in games I was at against Sligo, especially the Connacht final down in the Hyde a few years ago and he was unplayable.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on August 31, 2021, 04:06:00 PM
Am I dreaming or did one of the commentators or pundits in the mayo Dublin game not say something about O'Shea having only scored a couple of points in all his games against Dublin??
You're not dreaming, I'm afraid.
I checked Willie Joe's results archive and it appears that Aido only scored a single point aginst the Dubs in finals and semis. That was in the 2015 replay.

Hard to fathom for a player of his caliber having played in so many of those contests. I've seen that man in games I was at against Sligo, especially the Connacht final down in the Hyde a few years ago and he was unplayable.

How many frees did COC convert from AOS constantly being fouled when he was double and triple marked against Dublin over the years ?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on August 31, 2021, 04:10:11 PM
Am I dreaming or did one of the commentators or pundits in the mayo Dublin game not say something about O'Shea having only scored a couple of points in all his games against Dublin??
You're not dreaming, I'm afraid.
I checked Willie Joe's results archive and it appears that Aido only scored a single point aginst the Dubs in finals and semis. That was in the 2015 replay.

Hard to fathom for a player of his caliber having played in so many of those contests. I've seen that man in games I was at against Sligo, especially the Connacht final down in the Hyde a few years ago and he was unplayable.
Was that the year Sligo had a 19 year old gasún at FB?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 31, 2021, 04:21:32 PM
Am I dreaming or did one of the commentators or pundits in the mayo Dublin game not say something about O'Shea having only scored a couple of points in all his games against Dublin??
You're not dreaming, I'm afraid.
I checked Willie Joe's results archive and it appears that Aido only scored a single point aginst the Dubs in finals and semis. That was in the 2015 replay.

Hard to fathom for a player of his caliber having played in so many of those contests. I've seen that man in games I was at against Sligo, especially the Connacht final down in the Hyde a few years ago and he was unplayable.
Was that the year Sligo had a 19 year old gasún at FB?

Aye, not the wisest decision on reflection. 2015
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on August 31, 2021, 04:33:28 PM
2013 v donegal was his best game
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Keyser soze on August 31, 2021, 04:49:22 PM
I see the match has been postponed until Michelle O'Neill gets out of isolation.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 31, 2021, 04:52:10 PM
I see the match has been postponed until Michelle O'Neill gets out of isolation.

In fairness she should be out of isolation by late next week but you'd really want to give her another week at least to get back to full fitness for an All_Ireland final.

You can't just go around and pick up county Councillors for a big game like this, wouldn't be fair on them.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fionntamhnach on August 31, 2021, 06:04:43 PM
Going slightly off-topic (as I'm looking to see how remaining clubs games in Tyrone can be scheduled for the 2021 season) but still somewhat on-topic, can anyone confirm that the All-Ireland final must be played to a finish on the 11th September i.e. normal time, then extra-time if there's a draw, and still a draw penalty kicks? Or is there a possibility of a replay if there is a draw after normal or extra-time?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on August 31, 2021, 06:13:57 PM
Going slightly off-topic (as I'm looking to see how remaining clubs games in Tyrone can be scheduled for the 2021 season) but still somewhat on-topic, can anyone confirm that the All-Ireland final must be played to a finish on the 11th September i.e. normal time, then extra-time if there's a draw, and still a draw penalty kicks? Or is there a possibility of a replay if there is a draw after normal or extra-time?

This is all I can find on it from December last year.

"Penalties to decide an All-Ireland final are off the table for 2021 - unless a decider goes to a replay."

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/penalties-table-ireland-finals-next-23203467


GAA website says extra time is possible
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 01, 2021, 01:42:18 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 01, 2021, 01:44:06 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on September 01, 2021, 01:47:15 PM
Best of luck to Joe.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 01:52:28 PM
What a final to look forward to now. I'm living on the Sligo Mayo border here and so many of my close mates being Mayo men as well as my boss and manager puts some spice on this for me. The final is being played on my birthday too!!

I think the bookies have this one right at the moment with Mayo being slight favourites but there's really very little in it. Mayo are 5/6 and Tyrone are 11/8 so not huge favourites. Probably about right


Two teak tough teams with no shortage of talent in defense and attack. I can't wait!

Has the ref been named yet? Can't see any other ref allowing as much to go in the next game. It'll be all on the day, Tyrone maybe slight underdogs, but a couple of goals and anything can happen. The game will be relentless, that's for sure. Up Mayo

Joe McQuillian favourite to referee.

Thanks hoynevalley, Kerry for Sam, Eire 90, Thegreatest, Macker 15, ck_Redhand, Cobra and all your other aliases, Get lost for the next two weeks Kerry were beaten. you are a complete tool.

Joe McQuillian is down to referee final. Apology accepted Joe
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 01, 2021, 02:02:24 PM
Strange to have an Ulster man ref it over someone like Gough? Not that it makes a difference, strange decision all the same though
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on September 01, 2021, 02:07:54 PM
Gough is over rated anyway. He is definitely one of the better ones but there is no real outstanding referee in the game at the minute. McQuillan would not be in the top 5 but always seems to manage to get a lot of big matches. The problem is that the rules are not applied consistently among different referees.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: joemamas on September 01, 2021, 02:21:24 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 02:36:58 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: joemamas on September 01, 2021, 02:48:49 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

Just like you kerry guys and your alter egos;

Kerry for Sams
The Greatest
Eire 90
Macker 15
CK Redhand
Fear anFhiranne

your infantile wind ups' are getting very old.
The gig is up, can you please disappear from what was a very good genuine GAA Blog.
btw shit job by the MODS.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 02:54:57 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy

Just like you kerry guys and your alter egos;

Kerry for Sams
The Greatest
Eire 90
Macker 15
CK Redhand
Fear anFhiranne

your infantile wind ups' are getting very old.
The gig is up, can you please disappear from what was a very good genuine GAA Blog.
btw shit job by the MODS.

Calm down please. No need to get personal.  You're in a final and complaining about a referee.  If you have issue with me please put on ignore or jog on. I'm from the Midlands . Dont know what on about Kerry.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: StephenC on September 01, 2021, 03:47:48 PM
Mayo County Board selling tickets to companies in the area for €590 each. Got to keep that training fund topped up.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thebackbar1 on September 01, 2021, 03:58:31 PM
Mayo County Board selling tickets to companies in the area for €590 each. Got to keep that training fund topped up.
Supposedly the contractors working on mchale park are refusing to accept facebook likes in lieu of payment hence the need for cash.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 01, 2021, 04:38:38 PM
Got to say I'm happy enough it's not Gough for the final for the sake of the game. He's far too fussy for a high intensity game like this. AFAIK both teams have been reffed by Joe once this year, Tyrone Vs Donegal and Mayo Vs Roscommon. In the Donegal game I think Joe was pretty good to Tyrone, we got a few handy ones and maybe got away with a few too, although he did give a black card and a penalty that I still don't know how he got to that decision. The Murphy sending off I think he was left with no choice so in balance probably about even.

I think any football fan if they come out after a match and think the ref was about even for both teams that's all you can ask for given the poor standard they are at the moment.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on September 01, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
I think the ref will do fine, he has the big game experience, Mayo fans gave him a lot of bad stick over the years and in many opinions blaming referees became a feature of Mayo football, a key feature of teams not addressing the core issues as to why they were beat and  thankfully they have moved on and are a much better proposition for it.   It is a big day for the players, supporters, for referees and you have to wish him well, both teams are good and hardy footballing teams and mind their own business,  so it should be a great final..no excuses... 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 01, 2021, 04:50:17 PM
I think the ref will do fine, he has the big game experience, Mayo fans gave him a lot of bad stick over the years and in many opinions blaming referees became a feature of Mayo football, a key feature of teams not addressing the core issues as to why they were beat and  thankfully they have moved on and are a much better proposition for it.   It is a big day for the players, supporters, for referees and you have to wish him well, both teams are good and hardy footballing teams and mind their own business,  so it should be a great final..no excuses...

Said without a hint of irony in a thread for a Tyrone game lol.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 01, 2021, 04:57:08 PM
...

Said without a hint of irony in a thread for a Tyrone game lol.

Tyrone versus who?  ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 01, 2021, 05:18:53 PM
Could we both be as bad as each other??
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 01, 2021, 05:28:13 PM
Could we both be as bad as each other??

I would say so lol. But there has been some horrible calls against Tyrone over the last few years. The black card and non penalty Mcquillan awarded to Donegal could have ended tyrone sessions right there and then if murphy had of scored it.

Been saying this for years but bad referring calls should not be ending teams entire season. Need more from the umpires and lines men

Conor Lane could have ended mayos season as well with his poor performance.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 05:29:07 PM
Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 05:31:53 PM
I think the ref will do fine, he has the big game experience, Mayo fans gave him a lot of bad stick over the years and in many opinions blaming referees became a feature of Mayo football, a key feature of teams not addressing the core issues as to why they were beat and  thankfully they have moved on and are a much better proposition for it.   It is a big day for the players, supporters, for referees and you have to wish him well, both teams are good and hardy footballing teams and mind their own business,  so it should be a great final..no excuses...

If Jerome Henry was referee the Mayo folks still wouldn't be happy.  It a bit cheap from joemamas having a go at McQuillian.  Referees can't get every single decision right.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 01, 2021, 05:34:43 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

Just like you kerry guys and your alter egos;

Kerry for Sams
The Greatest
Eire 90
Macker 15
CK Redhand
Fear anFhiranne

your infantile wind ups' are getting very old.
The gig is up, can you please disappear from what was a very good genuine GAA Blog.
btw shit job by the MODS.

I can assure you I have nothing to do with hoynevalley and I've no idea what would given you any notion that I'm from Kerry.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 01, 2021, 05:42:31 PM
I think the ref will do fine, he has the big game experience, Mayo fans gave him a lot of bad stick over the years and in many opinions blaming referees became a feature of Mayo football, a key feature of teams not addressing the core issues as to why they were beat and  thankfully they have moved on and are a much better proposition for it.   It is a big day for the players, supporters, for referees and you have to wish him well, both teams are good and hardy footballing teams and mind their own business,  so it should be a great final..no excuses...

If Jerome Henry was referee the Mayo folks still wouldn't be happy.  It a bit cheap from joemamas having a go at McQuillian.  Referees can't get every single decision right.

There’s a whole host of boys on this forum who are NEVER happy with any referee. Their team is ALWAYS a victim of poor refereeing, no matter the result or the circumstances.

(Not having a go at joemamas as I neither know what he said about McQuillan nor do I recall him being critical of refs on other occasions).
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 01, 2021, 05:51:10 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

He absolutely did have choice. It was stupid from Vaughan, but never a red and absolutely was only given to even up the numbers
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 01, 2021, 05:51:30 PM
Annoyed tbh, feel like Gough would’ve suited Mayo more
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on September 01, 2021, 06:35:38 PM
Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?

Harrison only got a few minutes in extra-time the last day, so I doubt he's fit to start. Hession was very impressive when he came on with his pace and lack of fear breaking the Dublin defensive lines in that second half so he should definitely be in contention.

McShane should be sprung off the bench where he's been most effective. Canavan is very young and hasn't played much this year due to injury, so I think the Tyrone management will side with experience on the big day.

James Horan should drop O'Shea. He was a liability against Dublin with his inability to track runners. He's just not suited to the wide open spaces of Croke Park.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 01, 2021, 06:41:17 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

He absolutely did have choice. It was stupid from Vaughan, but never a red and absolutely was only given to even up the numbers

It was one of the most straight forward reds for a referee to give in All-Ireland final. That final was there for Mayo to win and that moment of madness from Vaughan was the games turning point.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 01, 2021, 06:43:36 PM
I'd absolutely be starting McShane now for the final. He came on after 43 minutes in the semi, so played around 60 minutes at full championship intensity and bar a handling error when he first came on he looked great.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 01, 2021, 06:44:05 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

He absolutely did have choice. It was stupid from Vaughan, but never a red and absolutely was only given to even up the numbers

It was one of the most straight forward reds for a referee to give in All-Ireland final. That final was there for Mayo to win and that moment of madness from Vaughan was the games turning point.

Yes, any annoyance on that red should be solely focused on Vaughan.

I’m sure he regrets what he did to this day.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 07:15:08 PM
Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?

Harrison only got a few minutes in extra-time the last day, so I doubt he's fit to start. Hession was very impressive when he came on with his pace and lack of fear breaking the Dublin defensive lines in that second half so he should definitely be in contention.

McShane should be sprung off the bench where he's been most effective. Canavan is very young and hasn't played much this year due to injury, so I think the Tyrone management will side with experience on the big day.

James Horan should drop O'Shea. He was a liability against Dublin with his inability to track runners. He's just not suited to the wide open spaces of Croke Park.

Very impressed with Hession. What age is he?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 07:17:47 PM
Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?

Harrison only got a few minutes in extra-time the last day, so I doubt he's fit to start. Hession was very impressive when he came on with his pace and lack of fear breaking the Dublin defensive lines in that second half so he should definitely be in contention.

McShane should be sprung off the bench where he's been most effective. Canavan is very young and hasn't played much this year due to injury, so I think the Tyrone management will side with experience on the big day.

James Horan should drop O'Shea. He was a liability against Dublin with his inability to track runners. He's just not suited to the wide open spaces of Croke Park.

Oshea struggles against Dublin and Kerry as teams superior athletes around the middle.  Unless Tyrone put McKenna on OShea will struggle against his physicality.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 01, 2021, 08:15:18 PM
Just reading there will be no extra time if needed . Wasnt it up on website only last week there would be ET but no penalties?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 08:23:30 PM
Just reading there will be no extra time if needed . Wasnt it up on website only last week there would be ET but no penalties?

Think All Ireland final will be replay if drawn game?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 01, 2021, 08:26:48 PM
Yeah ,that's been reported now this evening but I'm asking wasnt it pencilled in for extra time originally?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 01, 2021, 08:32:59 PM
Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?

Harrison only got a few minutes in extra-time the last day, so I doubt he's fit to start. Hession was very impressive when he came on with his pace and lack of fear breaking the Dublin defensive lines in that second half so he should definitely be in contention.

McShane should be sprung off the bench where he's been most effective. Canavan is very young and hasn't played much this year due to injury, so I think the Tyrone management will side with experience on the big day.

James Horan should drop O'Shea. He was a liability against Dublin with his inability to track runners. He's just not suited to the wide open spaces of Croke Park.

Oshea struggles against Dublin and Kerry as teams superior athletes around the middle.  Unless Tyrone put McKenna on OShea will struggle against his physicality.

Not sure I’d have said “struggles”, until the past 2 outings against Dublin when as well as being exposed for speed regularly at midfield, he clearly missed having his henchmen Seamie and Tom alongside him for the aerial duels. Mayo used to be able to spread the 3 of them across the middle third and they didn’t need a whole pile of pace as long as the keepers were kicking it long. They won more than their share and had a habit of locking opponents in when they didn’t.

Tyrone could try to set up a game plan to outrun O’Shea and wear the legs off him, but I can’t see them winning enough primary possession in the middle third to make it a feature of the game. They’ll be reliant on working it out from the back, which will allow Mayo numbers back. If they kick long time O’Shea, they won’t win the ball.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 01, 2021, 08:39:20 PM
Just reading there will be no extra time if needed . Wasnt it up on website only last week there would be ET but no penalties?
Reading where? From GAA ie


Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Tubberman on September 01, 2021, 08:41:49 PM
Just reading there will be no extra time if needed . Wasnt it up on website only last week there would be ET but no penalties?
Reading where? From GAA ie




Connaught Telegraph reporting that John Prenty said there wouldn't be extra time
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 01, 2021, 09:19:46 PM
Would have been some profitable year without Covid with 2 AI semi final replays!
Maybe someone thought let’s not bother with ET for the final and get some more in for the replay
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Chimley on September 01, 2021, 09:24:47 PM
Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?

Harrison only got a few minutes in extra-time the last day, so I doubt he's fit to start. Hession was very impressive when he came on with his pace and lack of fear breaking the Dublin defensive lines in that second half so he should definitely be in contention.

McShane should be sprung off the bench where he's been most effective. Canavan is very young and hasn't played much this year due to injury, so I think the Tyrone management will side with experience on the big day.

James Horan should drop O'Shea. He was a liability against Dublin with his inability to track runners. He's just not suited to the wide open spaces of Croke Park.

Very impressed with Hession. What age is he?

Hession was eligible for the U-20s this year but I'm not sure what exact age he is.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Nanderson on September 01, 2021, 09:33:02 PM
Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?

Harrison only got a few minutes in extra-time the last day, so I doubt he's fit to start. Hession was very impressive when he came on with his pace and lack of fear breaking the Dublin defensive lines in that second half so he should definitely be in contention.

McShane should be sprung off the bench where he's been most effective. Canavan is very young and hasn't played much this year due to injury, so I think the Tyrone management will side with experience on the big day.

James Horan should drop O'Shea. He was a liability against Dublin with his inability to track runners. He's just not suited to the wide open spaces of Croke Park.

Very impressed with Hession. What age is he?

Hession was eligible for the U-20s this year but I'm not sure what exact age he is.
I have a funny feeling there will word from the Mayo camp before the final the O'Shea has an injury and isn't fit to start and that way Horan doesn't technically drop him but he knows that he held them back against Dublin and he can bring him on sometime in 2nd half depending on how that game is going
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2021, 09:50:19 PM
Drop O'Shea!? O'connor not big enough to play against the Tyrone Midfield
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 01, 2021, 10:01:52 PM
Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?

Harrison only got a few minutes in extra-time the last day, so I doubt he's fit to start. Hession was very impressive when he came on with his pace and lack of fear breaking the Dublin defensive lines in that second half so he should definitely be in contention.

McShane should be sprung off the bench where he's been most effective. Canavan is very young and hasn't played much this year due to injury, so I think the Tyrone management will side with experience on the big day.

James Horan should drop O'Shea. He was a liability against Dublin with his inability to track runners. He's just not suited to the wide open spaces of Croke Park.

Oshea struggles against Dublin and Kerry as teams superior athletes around the middle.  Unless Tyrone put McKenna on OShea will struggle against his physicality.

Not sure I’d have said “struggles”, until the past 2 outings against Dublin when as well as being exposed for speed regularly at midfield, he clearly missed having his henchmen Seamie and Tom alongside him for the aerial duels. Mayo used to be able to spread the 3 of them across the middle third and they didn’t need a whole pile of pace as long as the keepers were kicking it long. They won more than their share and had a habit of locking opponents in when they didn’t.

Tyrone could try to set up a game plan to outrun O’Shea and wear the legs off him, but I can’t see them winning enough primary possession in the middle third to make it a feature of the game. They’ll be reliant on working it out from the back, which will allow Mayo numbers back. If they kick long time O’Shea, they won’t win the ball.

They wont. They will go long. It malfunctioned against Kerry but retaining possession from kick outs by going short to a corner back is something Morgan has come out and said that they have moved away from because while it pads his stats for ball retantion it's completely useless in terms of getting scores.

Kerry won 100% of their kick outs the last day and only crossed the 45  once. 4 scores is all they got.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: The Trap on September 01, 2021, 10:20:56 PM
Thought and hoped David Gough would be the ref. He is the best in my view.......from what I have seen Joe gets a lot of big calls wrong, doesn't let the game flow and can lean in one direction or the other. He will probably have a bearing on the outcome in one way or another.......one question.....would this match be decided on penalties if needed or go to a replay? Definitely think it should be a replay and not penalties!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on September 01, 2021, 10:40:48 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

He absolutely did have choice. It was stupid from Vaughan, but never a red and absolutely was only given to even up the numbers

It was one of the most straight forward reds for a referee to give in All-Ireland final. That final was there for Mayo to win and that moment of madness from Vaughan was the games turning point.
ho knows

Yes, any annoyance on that red should be solely focused on Vaughan.

I’m sure he regrets what he did to this day.
Who knows didn't he swap his home clubfor a big club not much more than a  month later... not too many would do that..is he still playing..
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 01, 2021, 10:45:45 PM
Thought and hoped David Gough would be the ref. He is the best in my view.......from what I have seen Joe gets a lot of big calls wrong, doesn't let the game flow and can lean in one direction or the other. He will probably have a bearing on the outcome in one way or another.......one question.....would this match be decided on penalties if needed or go to a replay? Definitely think it should be a replay and not penalties!

Above all refs that seems to pick one side for special attention Gough is the worst and he's the fussiest.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on September 01, 2021, 10:56:07 PM
I will say again. Why are Mayo people giving out about the ref and the ball hasn't been thrown in.... get on with it and get over it ffs
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: highorlow on September 01, 2021, 11:01:50 PM
Quote
I will say again. Why are Mayo people giving out about the ref and the ball hasn't been thrown in.... get on with it and get over it ffs

We are moaning c***ts by nature. Probably Cromwells fault 😀
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: fearsiuil on September 01, 2021, 11:40:15 PM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

He absolutely did have choice. It was stupid from Vaughan, but never a red and absolutely was only given to even up the numbers

It was one of the most straight forward reds for a referee to give in All-Ireland final. That final was there for Mayo to win and that moment of madness from Vaughan was the games turning point.
ho knows

Yes, any annoyance on that red should be solely focused on Vaughan.

I’m sure he regrets what he did to this day.
Who knows didn't he swap his home clubfor a big club not much more than a  month later... not too many would do that..is he still playing..
Still playing with Castlebar Mitchels. Paul Donaghy moved to Dungannon from a neighbouring small senior club didn't he?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 01, 2021, 11:52:51 PM
I will say again. Why are Mayo people giving out about the ref and the ball hasn't been thrown in.... get on with it and get over it ffs

I'm from Tyrone if you're referring to me.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 02, 2021, 12:01:53 AM
Drop O'Shea!? O'connor not big enough to play against the Tyrone Midfield

Oconnor cleaned Fenton the last day.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 02, 2021, 12:03:55 AM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

He absolutely did have choice. It was stupid from Vaughan, but never a red and absolutely was only given to even up the numbers

It was one of the most straight forward reds for a referee to give in All-Ireland final. That final was there for Mayo to win and that moment of madness from Vaughan was the games turning point.
ho knows

Yes, any annoyance on that red should be solely focused on Vaughan.

I’m sure he regrets what he did to this day.
Who knows didn't he swap his home clubfor a big club not much more than a  month later... not too many would do that..is he still playing..
Still playing with Castlebar Mitchels. Paul Donaghy moved to Dungannon from a neighbouring small senior club didn't he?

Did Donie return to Ballinrobe?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: fearsiuil on September 02, 2021, 10:47:04 AM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

He absolutely did have choice. It was stupid from Vaughan, but never a red and absolutely was only given to even up the numbers

It was one of the most straight forward reds for a referee to give in All-Ireland final. That final was there for Mayo to win and that moment of madness from Vaughan was the games turning point.
ho knows

Yes, any annoyance on that red should be solely focused on Vaughan.

I’m sure he regrets what he did to this day.
Who knows didn't he swap his home clubfor a big club not much more than a  month later... not too many would do that..is he still playing..
Still playing with Castlebar Mitchels. Paul Donaghy moved to Dungannon from a neighbouring small senior club didn't he?

Did Donie return to Ballinrobe?
Are you too stupid to read my short post you quoted? See in bold.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 02, 2021, 11:18:53 AM
Joe McQuillan confirmed as the ref for this All-Ireland final.

Was hoping for Gough.

+1 way more assertive, McQuillan is not.
Advantage Tyrone, as he is an Ulster Referee, Tyrone will be very well aware of how far they can push the boundries, which TBH they are very good at.
Was at the game on Saturday and watched the entire game again last night , got confirmation of that.
Not a slight on Tyrone by any manner of means, as they were the better team on Saturday.

Dublin Joe has been very generous to Mayo againat the Dubs 2012  2013 and 2015. James Horan called him out after 2011. McQuillian had no choice but to send off Don Vaughan in 2017 final.  Listen ye are favourites and have the better team. No need to be whining about referee. Some Mayo supporters are never happy 🙄🙄🙄

He absolutely did have choice. It was stupid from Vaughan, but never a red and absolutely was only given to even up the numbers

It was one of the most straight forward reds for a referee to give in All-Ireland final. That final was there for Mayo to win and that moment of madness from Vaughan was the games turning point.
ho knows

Yes, any annoyance on that red should be solely focused on Vaughan.

I’m sure he regrets what he did to this day.
Who knows didn't he swap his home clubfor a big club not much more than a  month later... not too many would do that..is he still playing..
Still playing with Castlebar Mitchels. Paul Donaghy moved to Dungannon from a neighbouring small senior club didn't he?

Did Donie return to Ballinrobe?
Are you too stupid to read my short post you quoted? See in bold.

I thought he had transferred home. Relax the cacks Timmy.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: inroundthesquare on September 02, 2021, 08:44:59 PM
Guessing some potential match-ups.. assuming similar team selection

Morgan

Hampsey v Conroy
McNamee v O'Shea
McKernan v O'Donoghue

M'O'Neill v Loftus
Burns v McHale
Harte v K. McLoughlin

Kennedy v O'Connor
Kilpatrick v Ruane

K.McGeary v Durcan
Sludden v Plunkett
Meyler v Coen

McKenna v Hession
M. Donnelly v Keegan
McCurry v O'Hora

Hennelly


SUBS:

Harrison, Mullin, Walsh, Carr, Flynn, C O'Shea, D. Coen

McShane, McCann, Canavan, Bradley, R. Brennan, McDonnell, Rafferty


Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 02, 2021, 09:19:35 PM
I’d put my house on O’Shea playing almost the full match at midfield, DOC picking up McGeary, Keegan playing firmly at 6 no matter who plays CHF for Tyrone, and O’Hora picking up McShane. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Durcan or Mullen moved back onto McCurry.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 02, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
O'Hora will pick up McCurry I'd say as he's the one Tyrone forward guaranteed to stay inside. Could also pick up McShane if he starts. Maybe Keegan on Donnelly and Durcan on McKenna or vice versa.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 02, 2021, 11:18:46 PM
I’d put my house on O’Shea playing almost the full match at midfield, DOC picking up McGeary, Keegan playing firmly at 6 no matter who plays CHF for Tyrone, and O’Hora picking up McShane. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Durcan or Mullen moved back onto McCurry.

That could play right into our hands I'd say.  ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 03, 2021, 03:32:37 AM
I will say again. Why are Mayo people giving out about the ref and the ball hasn't been thrown in.... get on with it and get over it ffs

I'm from Tyrone if you're referring to me.

lol
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WhoDat on September 03, 2021, 11:21:08 AM
will mayo have oisin mullin back?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 03, 2021, 01:19:15 PM
will mayo have oisin mullin back?

James Horan in the recent off the ball interview hasn't ruled out Mullin or E McLaughlin from featuring in this final.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WhoDat on September 03, 2021, 03:37:39 PM
mcloughlin playing seems a bit far fetched
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: From the Bunker on September 03, 2021, 05:19:31 PM
will mayo have oisin mullin back?

James Horan in the recent off the ball interview hasn't ruled out Mullin or E McLaughlin from featuring in this final.

James is smart enough to lead the media into this story. It keeps the opposition guessing, it gives the media a story to write and it take the focus away from the rest of the squad.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 03, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
will mayo have oisin mullin back?

James Horan in the recent off the ball interview hasn't ruled out Mullin or E McLaughlin from featuring in this final.

James is smart enough to lead the media into this story. It keeps the opposition guessing, it gives the media a story to write and it take the focus away from the rest of the squad.

James Horan usually goes the opposite way with the media. Rules a player out from returning only for him to play come match day.

The smile he was giving in the interview leads me to believe that both will feature. If they do return the 4 weeks preparation for this final has turned out to be a big bonus for Mayo.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 03, 2021, 05:50:07 PM
I didn't see anything from the Mayo media day they did after the Kerry game. Who did they put up?

I was quite impressed by what Tyrone did, a good few people available and the interviews up on the Offtheball youtube were quite interesting.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 04, 2021, 07:07:43 AM
I’d put my house on O’Shea playing almost the full match at midfield, DOC picking up McGeary, Keegan playing firmly at 6 no matter who plays CHF for Tyrone, and O’Hora picking up McShane. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Durcan or Mullen moved back onto McCurry.

That could play right into our hands I'd say.  ;)

Morgan would want to have better kickouts if thst's to be the case. I thought he was very poor on these against Kerry the last day.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyHarp on September 04, 2021, 07:41:41 AM
Morgan getting a lot of stick about his kick outs the last day and granted some were poor but I thought it was a fairly clear strategy to kick them long and battle for position out the field. By not kicking short Tyrone didn’t face energy sapping full pitch running build up which, given the Covid situation was entirely sensible. Yes some went astray and we didn’t win much break ball but that all isn’t Morgan’s fault. Kerry played it short every time which in my view played a huge part in them struggling for energy and cramping late in the game. If we kick long to the opposition 65 and lose the ball but win it back again before they reach our 45 then I’ll take that before passing it around on our 21 yard line sapping the energy of our defenders and coughing up position closer to our own goals.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 04, 2021, 08:11:53 AM
Allowing Kerry have their kickouts may well have been a great idea. But Mayo’s fitness and ability to run with the ball out of defence is far superior to Kerry’s.  Albeit not as economical with their shooting when they get to the other end.

I expect AOS to be midfield for the throw-ins, but to play most of the match at centre forward. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 04, 2021, 09:48:32 AM
will mayo have oisin mullin back?

Mullen will be back. McLaughlan no.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2021, 11:43:37 AM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: lenny on September 04, 2021, 02:34:10 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyHarp on September 04, 2021, 06:26:18 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Top bants 👍👍
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 04, 2021, 07:18:06 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jim Bob on September 04, 2021, 07:25:54 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

The squad are meeting tonight in Mcaleer’s to discuss it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 04, 2021, 08:43:08 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyHarp on September 04, 2021, 08:51:55 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.

Aye, though not as funny as when Tyrone win it and half of this board go into hiding.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Real Talk on September 04, 2021, 08:56:03 PM
Morgan getting a lot of stick about his kick outs the last day and granted some were poor but I thought it was a fairly clear strategy to kick them long and battle for position out the field. By not kicking short Tyrone didn’t face energy sapping full pitch running build up which, given the Covid situation was entirely sensible. Yes some went astray and we didn’t win much break ball but that all isn’t Morgan’s fault. Kerry played it short every time which in my view played a huge part in them struggling for energy and cramping late in the game. If we kick long to the opposition 65 and lose the ball but win it back again before they reach our 45 then I’ll take that before passing it around on our 21 yard line sapping the energy of our defenders and coughing up position closer to our own goals.

Morgan is very astute player with a wide variety of skills and B H assessment of his performance is correct.  Back a few years Tyrone outsmarted the Kerry twin towers of Donaghy &   Walsh so i dont think O'Shea will pose much of a threat .   In any case this a very different ball game with the different style of Mayo's play and the quality of good footballers on both sides ( from 1 to 26 )... it will be a classic game also with with 2 top class management teams .... descision making on the side-line will be key ... 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 04, 2021, 09:06:41 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.

If we were going to lose a final, I’d like it to be Mayo to beat us.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: StPatsAbu on September 04, 2021, 09:20:19 PM
Galway fans will be supporting Tyrone, Armagh fans will be supporting Mayo.  You have to live the tribal "anyone but the next door neighbour" rivalry of the gaa! 😁
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 04, 2021, 09:37:33 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.

Pretty sure laois , louth and Meath already have .

Never understand the Tyrone ignorance over gaa history.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 04, 2021, 09:50:48 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.

Pretty sure laois , louth and Meath already have .

Never understand the Tyrone ignorance over gaa history.

All before that so called priest curse or was it the widow?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 04, 2021, 09:58:14 PM
All long before Tyrone won one anyway that's for sure , know your history.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyHarp on September 04, 2021, 10:09:38 PM
All long before Tyrone won one anyway that's for sure , know your history.

Ffs, every time Mayo get within an asses roar of an AI final that history is rammed down everyone’s throat, how could anyone not know about it? I’ll be happy for Mayo when they finally win so we can stop hearing about it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jim Bob on September 04, 2021, 11:07:33 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.

Pretty sure laois , louth and Meath already have .

Never understand the Tyrone ignorance over gaa history.

Post up your evidence of this supposed Tyrone  ‘ignorance ‘ of Gaa history
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 04, 2021, 11:59:50 PM
Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.

Pretty sure laois , louth and Meath already have .

Never understand the Tyrone ignorance over gaa history.

Your ignorance of where Captain Obvious is from amazing.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 05, 2021, 12:02:08 AM
Mayo for sandwiches.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 05, 2021, 12:02:51 AM
Who does the average Dub supporter want to see win in the final? Always got the impression they didn’t really like Mayo but didn’t mind Tyrone.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: StPatsAbu on September 05, 2021, 01:17:06 AM
Who does the average Dub supporter want to see win in the final? Always got the impression they didn’t really like Mayo but didn’t mind Tyrone.

The average Dub supporter prefers to see a Man City win
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Ty4Sam on September 05, 2021, 08:28:22 AM
Does anyone know if Croke Park hotel is residents only on Saturday? If so, are the other local bars booking only? Cheers
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2021, 10:45:22 AM
Mayo are 4/6 favourites, that’s a brutal price, based solely on beating Dublin, based on both games (semi’s) Tyrone look slightly better fitness wise and bench…

Should be a close game, but Tyrone have the better value for a betting perspective
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 11:10:28 AM
Why do you think Tyrone looked better fitness wise? Mayo even after being blitzed first half still looked pretty fit to me.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 05, 2021, 11:14:54 AM
Mayo are 4/6 favourites, that’s a brutal price, based solely on beating Dublin, based on both games (semi’s) Tyrone look slightly better fitness wise and bench…

Should be a close game, but Tyrone have the better value for a betting perspective

Part of me doesn’t disagree with you. But as Mayo are the sole team to beat Dublin since 2014, that’s surely the only reason anyone would ever need to make them favourites??
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2021, 11:25:54 AM
Why do you think Tyrone looked better fitness wise? Mayo even after being blitzed first half still looked pretty fit to me.

Extra time they still (bar a couple of cramps) were bombing up and down the pitch, Dublin for whatever reason were not at the races this year, and that not taking anything from Mayo’s brilliant result.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 05, 2021, 11:28:27 AM
Mayo are 4/6 favourites, that’s a brutal price, based solely on beating Dublin, based on both games (semi’s) Tyrone look slightly better fitness wise and bench…

Should be a close game, but Tyrone have the better value for a betting perspective
Mayo have recent AIF experience
Tyrone are fit but Mayo are cute.
Plus they have a few tinkers.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 11:31:28 AM
Dublin weren’t at the level they’re normally at - very different from not being at the races.

The likes of Conroy in extra time was unplayable so I don’t think anything Tyrone have in that regard Mayo haven’t. Tbh I would be very surprised if Tyrone were fitter or better conditioned than Mayo.

If you were to believe the media Kerry lost against Tyrone rather than Tyrone won against Kerry anyway...

That said for me Mayo will need to be about 10-20% better than Tyrone to win because I just think they will be too nervous if it’s close. There is a chance they are but we’ll see...
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 05, 2021, 11:39:49 AM
It was 5 points to 1-3 in extra time despite Tyrone being full of running and Kerry players cramping up all over. Tyrone may well win next weekend, but it won't be down to superior fitness.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 05, 2021, 11:49:15 AM
In the normal scheme of things teams rise and fall. A team at their peak will win the all Ireland against a team on the rise. The team on the rise wil win one or 2 years later.
This happened in 07-11 Kerry beat Cork in 07 and 09 and Dublin lost a load of seminals. Cork won in 10 and Dublin fell over the line on 2011.

The system broke down after 2015.

Let's say it is back running again.
Tyrone last reached the final in 2018.
Mayo were there last year. If Mayo have learnt their stuff they should win and destroy the MGHU  stereotype.


Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 05, 2021, 11:59:33 AM
Mayo wont lose this one , mayo are the best team in Ireland at present and will win this comfortably  by a bigger margin than anyone will predict .
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 12:19:37 PM
It was 5 points to 1-3 in extra time despite Tyrone being full of running and Kerry players cramping up all over. Tyrone may well win next weekend, but it won't be down to superior fitness.

Exactly. Mayo are the only team who can match Dublin fitness wise.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Whishtup on September 05, 2021, 01:36:01 PM
I'm to-ing and fro-ing with this one. Mayo will die on their feet as they will see this as, finally, the opportunity to put the ghost to bed. But is this what will ultimately beat them? The pressure is firmly on Mayo here whereas Tyrone are in bonus territory.
I can't see Tyrone make as many mistakes as they did against Kerry. The reality is that we didn't play anywhere as well as we could offensively and should have been out the gap. Kerry did a cracking job on the long kickouts. Mayo won't be able to achieve this. I am worried that O'Shea has a big game in him. If Tommy Conroy is kept as quiet as Sean O' Se was, then we're in good shape.  Last week I said Mayo. Today I say Tyrone, comfortably. I like the fact that Morgan is booming the kickouts if the short play isn't on. Better to lose the ball in midfield than in front of goal and also have the chance of a breaking ball to the half forwards. Makes for good viewing too. Go long for the 1st quarter and see what change we are getting out of it. Looking back at the semi, Dublin were pedestrian at times and frustrated at other times in a way that neither Tyrone and Kerry were. Never looked forward to a game as much as there isn't the same deep rooted emotional attachment that you would find in games against Kerry/Dublin (and Armagh!)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: highorlow on September 05, 2021, 01:56:09 PM
Agree with the last post. The difficult challenge for Tyrone is putting another performance together the next day.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 05, 2021, 02:07:45 PM
It was 5 points to 1-3 in extra time despite Tyrone being full of running and Kerry players cramping up all over. Tyrone may well win next weekend, but it won't be down to superior fitness.

Exactly. Mayo are the only team who can match Dublin fitness wise.
Yes fitness wise advantage goes to Mayo for this final in my view. Can match Dublin for physicality and conditioning also.

Main questions I'd ask of Tyrone is can they score goals and keep their discipline as if they don't score a few goals and get a few black cards again or a red i can't see them winning.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 02:37:22 PM
I honestly can not see Tyrone winning this comfortably. For me Mayo will win comfortably or Tyrone will win in a very tight game.

People are playing Dublin down. Dublin were still very good and I honestly don’t think Kerry or Tyrone would have beat them. Mayo made harder work of it than they should have but that is what Mayo tend to do.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: nrico2006 on September 05, 2021, 02:56:02 PM
The top teams are all fit. Anybody trying to speculate who is fitter is simply, speculating. They are both extremely fit teams, with fitness not being a deciding factor in this game.

Tyrone had a long lay-off before the last game due to covid, therefore I am hoping for an improved performance in the final, with less mistakes  given the fact they have played more recently than Mayo and have been training away in the mean time. My main concern would be whether Tyrone can score goals. Its long been MHs way to take less risks and as a result Tyrone have a poor goal scoring record. I'm not convinced that aspect has changed yet. 2 of the 3 goals last week were due to fortune more than anything. I hope I'm wrong. Cannot afford black cards either.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 05, 2021, 03:00:17 PM
Kerry looked surprisingly unfit the last day out.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Whishtup on September 05, 2021, 03:05:58 PM
In Mckenna, McShane, Canavan, you get a sense ghat they are hungry for goals. If they can provide that great again, Mayo will be drawn back to a deeper style of defending. That's when the Donnelly's, mcgearys, sluddens, mccurrys, Morgan, need to be 99% accurate.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 05, 2021, 03:06:42 PM
I honestly can not see Tyrone winning this comfortably. For me Mayo will win comfortably or Tyrone will win in a very tight game.

People are playing Dublin down. Dublin were still very good and I honestly don’t think Kerry or Tyrone would have beat them. Mayo made harder work of it than they should have but that is what Mayo tend to do.

I don’t think either will win comfortably, squads at too similar a level, and fitness seems in line. It will be a nervy tight game with the last 15 mins riddled with 2 teams who don’t want to lose!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 05, 2021, 03:27:10 PM
It's not fitness per se , s&c , speed . Paddy , oisin and Leroy are near impossible to stop if they hit the gears.  Mattie and diarmuid will dominate , I just can't see Tyrone been able to nullify our bucks , call me cocky and stupidly confident if ya wish ,  I just think we are better outfit than Tyrone. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 05, 2021, 03:34:42 PM
I think it will be a dogfight

And I think the referee will have a big bearing on the outcome based on how he decides to ref the game
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 03:38:02 PM
I’m cautiously confident, however McQuillan over Gough has dampened my enthusiasm a little.

I think Mayo will start poorly again. But through a combination of indiscipline, poor shooting, and just not going all out from Tyrone, will be well in it at half time. In the second half Mayo switch into 6th gear and I think over the course of the half they have too much for Tyrone to live with. Pull away in the end to win by ~5 points.

I think if Tyrone give away the amount of soft frees they did against Kerry it could be crucial, but I would’ve relied on Gough to give them more consistently.

I expect Mullin to start and McLaughlin at least to be named on the 26.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 03:38:19 PM
The match ups will be very interesting. Who does keegan pick up, who does Hampsey pick up. It’ll be very interesting who meyler picks up. I think he might pick up diarmuid O’Connor.

O’Shea would have a lot more joy against that Tyrone midfield too.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 03:39:06 PM
I think Tyrone need a five point lead at half time, and I don’t think they will (or I pray they don’t)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WhoDat on September 05, 2021, 03:48:33 PM
Mayo wont lose this one , mayo are the best team in Ireland at present and will win this comfortably  by a bigger margin than anyone will predict .

i actually agree. mayo will win it comfortably enough i feel. tyrone just have an awful lot to think about with regards to match ups etc. - who do they put on o'donoghue and conroy, who do they tackle first durcan or keegan (what if keegan is released up the field??), where will o'shea play and who will pick him up, what about the midfield battle (mayo have a distinct advantage here), what if oisin mullin emerges from the bench, or even more shockingly, what if mcloughlin makes a comeback, what do they do about the pace of hession? and and nothing they sprung tactically on kerry will come as a shock to mayo and probably won't work on them either. and as a result peter keane will be gone before halloween.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 03:52:35 PM
I’m cautiously confident, however McQuillan over Gough has dampened my enthusiasm a little.

I think Mayo will start poorly again. But through a combination of indiscipline, poor shooting, and just not going all out from Tyrone, will be well in it at half time. In the second half Mayo switch into 6th gear and I think over the course of the half they have too much for Tyrone to live with. Pull away in the end to win by ~5 points.

I think if Tyrone give away the amount of soft frees they did against Kerry it could be crucial, but I would’ve relied on Gough to give them more consistently.

I expect Mullin to start and McLaughlin at least to be named on the 26.

The keeper match up will be crucial. Maybe this is my bias, because I’ve always been a massive supporter and defender of Robbie Hennelly. But, while they both have a mistake in them, I think Morgan is far more erratic, and I think Mayo could make a hay on his lockouts in crucial times of the match
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 03:56:00 PM
The Aidan OS question is interesting. *If* he does start it has to be a kind of centre forward ish role, drifting into a third midfield role when need to give DOC and Ruane a bit of height and steel and sometimes drifting into full forward when it’s on
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 05, 2021, 03:57:45 PM
I would think most teams who’ve played against Mayo the past decade have encountered this problem. They’re usually very predictable in their line ups, but are still somehow really unpredictable in their play. Even when Aidan is parked at the edge of the square they’ll ignore him for long periods of time.

I think that’s why they’re so much fun to watch. They’re exceptionally well conditioned, super competitive, highly skilled, and hugely confident players - but they aren’t over coached. They tend to play it as they see it.

Tyrone might be going that way too. But it’ll take them a few years to unburden Harte’s shackles. Mickey is rightly on the highest pedestal of Tyrone legends, but by f**k he dragged his county into a mess of robotic anti-football before being pushed out.

Mon Mayo
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 05, 2021, 03:58:42 PM
Will McShane start? It's probably easier to deal with him from the start when all defenders are fresh.

From a Mayo point of view, I'd be worried Conroy and O'Donoghue could get bottled up in the Tyrone defence. However Stephen O'Brien did cause some trouble running at Tyrone and Conroy is probably a better version of O'Brien. Gavin White also did well carrying the ball at pace and we've 3 or 4 players made for that. We have got caught out previously against defensive sides, committing too many forward, bringing the ball into traffic and being caught on the break.

We should have the edge in midfield, but then again so did Kerry. Hennelly and Morgan have a very mixed record with free kicks. It could simply come down to that in the end.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 03:59:54 PM
Mullins (if fit) to take on Donnelly?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 05, 2021, 04:02:22 PM
The Aidan OS question is interesting. *If* he does start it has to be a kind of centre forward ish role, drifting into a third midfield role when need to give DOC and Ruane a bit of height and steel and sometimes drifting into full forward when it’s on

This has been a common theme on this thread.

Can anyone explain to me why AOS wouldn’t play midfield against Tyrone? Given that Tyrone (based on the last few games) do not have the same pace and athleticism in midfield as they do elsewhere, would it not be the best place for him to line out? And beyond this, if played there, that he would be the best fielder in the midfield are a by a distance… surely surely it’s the obvious call to slap no.8 on his back and play him between the 65s?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 05, 2021, 04:02:36 PM
Mullins (if fit) to take on Donnelly?

I'd say Mullin on McKenna. Keegan is made for Donnelly as he will drift outfield at times.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 04:05:43 PM
The Aidan OS question is interesting. *If* he does start it has to be a kind of centre forward ish role, drifting into a third midfield role when need to give DOC and Ruane a bit of height and steel and sometimes drifting into full forward when it’s on

This has been a common theme on this thread.

Can anyone explain to me why AOS wouldn’t play midfield against Tyrone? Given that Tyrone (based on the last few games) do not have the same pace and athleticism in midfield as they do elsewhere, would it not be the best place for him to line out? And beyond this, if played there, that he would be the best fielder in the midfield are a by a distance… surely surely it’s the obvious call to slap no.8 on his back and play him between the 65s?

I’d still prefer to see him with legs around him in midfield. It’s also the question of mayo lacking a target man in the forwards. But it’s been proven now that if AOS is going to be just twiddling his thumbs with no support it’s pointless, and he did himself no favour with his performance against Dublin. Yet if he is moved in at the right time, like the second half against Galway, it could work very well

So many ifs
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 05, 2021, 04:06:29 PM
Keegan won’t be on McKenna I wouldn’t think. McKenna drifts in and out of games and is quite content to hang around away from the action. If the semi showed us anything, it’s that Leroy needs to be plum central in the thick of things, to drive Mayo forward.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 04:06:48 PM
Rewatching Tyrone Kerry, I do worry about Mayo faffing around in front of Tyrones defences and running down blind alleys/into tackles and gifting turnovers
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: lenny on September 05, 2021, 04:09:42 PM
I can only see one winner unfortunately and that’s Tyrone. I would love to see this mayo side get over the line after so many heartbreaks. If you look at both sides options up front it’s clear tyrone have much the better players. They also have excellent forwards to come off the bench like mcshane, canavan and bradley. Mayo have better defenders but tyrone defend well as a unit. Mayo probably shade midfield but tyrone were cleaned out in midfield v kerry and it didn’t matter. Mayo’s running game will play into tyrones hands and I fancy tyrone to win comfortably enough in the end.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 05, 2021, 04:12:10 PM
The Aidan OS question is interesting. *If* he does start it has to be a kind of centre forward ish role, drifting into a third midfield role when need to give DOC and Ruane a bit of height and steel and sometimes drifting into full forward when it’s on

This has been a common theme on this thread.

Can anyone explain to me why AOS wouldn’t play midfield against Tyrone?
Given that Tyrone (based on the last few games) do not have the same pace and athleticism in midfield as they do elsewhere, would it not be the best place for him to line out? And beyond this, if played there, that he would be the best fielder in the midfield are a by a distance… surely surely it’s the obvious call to slap no.8 on his back and play him between the 65s?
Because Mayo are unlikely to change their midfield pairing of Diarmuid O'Connor and Matthew Ruane who played so well against Dublin. Ruane has been the best fielder of the ball on the Mayo team this year and his direct play/running is one area that Tyrone will have to stop. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 05, 2021, 04:19:27 PM
Would you honestly say DOC was that good against Dublin?

He played decent. Put in a good shift doing the dirty jobs well.

But that does not an unbreakable midfield partnership make.

DOC on McGeary has genuine merit. We all know McGeary is going to turn up everywhere. But if his shadow, and fellow absolutely everywhere outlet, is a footballer as capable as DOC, this might well be counter productive energy on Tyrone’s behalf
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 04:24:33 PM
Would you honestly say DOC was that good against Dublin?

He played decent. Put in a good shift doing the dirty jobs well.

But that does not an unbreakable midfield partnership make.

DOC on McGeary has genuine merit. We all know McGeary is going to turn up everywhere. But if his shadow, and fellow absolutely everywhere outlet, is a footballer as capable as DOC, this might well be counter productive energy on Tyrone’s behalf

I think that DOC does a lot of the work that goes unnoticed and I appreciated more when I watched the match back
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 05, 2021, 04:32:52 PM
I can only see one winner unfortunately and that’s Tyrone. I would love to see this mayo side get over the line after so many heartbreaks. If you look at both sides options up front it’s clear tyrone have much the better players. They also have excellent forwards to come off the bench like mcshane, canavan and bradley. Mayo have better defenders but tyrone defend well as a unit. Mayo probably shade midfield but tyrone were cleaned out in midfield v kerry and it didn’t matter. Mayo’s running game will play into tyrones hands and I fancy tyrone to win comfortably enough in the end.

Classic example of cute hoorism before a final. You won't lull us into a sense of expectation  ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 05, 2021, 06:03:20 PM
I can only see one winner unfortunately and that’s Tyrone. I would love to see this mayo side get over the line after so many heartbreaks. If you look at both sides options up front it’s clear tyrone have much the better players. They also have excellent forwards to come off the bench like mcshane, canavan and bradley. Mayo have better defenders but tyrone defend well as a unit. Mayo probably shade midfield but tyrone were cleaned out in midfield v kerry and it didn’t matter. Mayo’s running game will play into tyrones hands and I fancy tyrone to win comfortably enough in the end.

 :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 05, 2021, 06:35:08 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-mayo-won-t-offer-up-the-same-gifts-as-kerry-1.4663136?fbclid=IwAR3K3VArO6XAyHjNX_c97JJBQmO6u85Cdk8Tu89LfW9xBxioz0ErV-rCkVk&mode=amp
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 05, 2021, 10:46:03 PM
An awful lot of second guessing about how impressive each semi final victory was. I was listening to the Mayo News podcast where someone said Tyrone had beaten a poor Kerry side and that it couldn't compare to their win over the great Dublin side. And that might be true, but equally you could build a case that the Dubs were a much diminished outfit on and off the field this year and until they came up against Mayo hadn't played anybody all summer who had any belief at all that they might win. When Mayo did that the Dubs folded completely. Ultimately we haven't got that much to go on this year and there isn't a really good form guide.

I stick by what I've said all summer: Tyrone are a team in transition and even with a normal season with McKenna Cup and full league it was going to be a big ask for Logan and Dooher. I always thought next year and the year after were the best bets, with more time for them to get their ideas across and with their u21 crop at a great age and with Donnelly and Petey Harte still around. To have reached this final with a shortened season, with McShane and Canavan having not bedded in as hoped with injury, with McKenna still to find his ideal role, is quite extraordinary. But with momentum behind them, who knows.

Ultimately though, Mayo are more settled and have been here more often of late. I think Mayo will win, and if Tyrone have to lose an AI then there truly is no team I'd rather lose to. Doesn't mean I'm conceding though  ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 05, 2021, 10:53:16 PM
Mayo wont lose this one , mayo are the best team in Ireland at present and will win this comfortably  by a bigger margin than anyone will predict .
Not me!
I did predict that Mayo.would beat Dublin by a half dozen points at the start of thàt semi thread and I see no reason to alter my view this time.
Okay the result was only half that but my money will be on Mayo this time also.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 05, 2021, 11:39:48 PM
Loving the Mayo confidence with this one, yet again, and just wondering what Screenexile's handicap is for filling his boots too!  :P ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 06, 2021, 01:56:46 AM
Loving the Mayo confidence with this one, yet again, and just wondering what Screenexile's handicap is for filling his boots too!  :P ;)

Jeez Tyrone are great at fabricating an air of confidence into existence so they can convince themselves to get annoyed.
One Mayo fan and a couple of tyrone fans confident, afaics

I'm to-ing and fro-ing with this one. Mayo will die on their feet as they will see this as, finally, the opportunity to put the ghost to bed. But is this what will ultimately beat them? The pressure is firmly on Mayo here whereas Tyrone are in bonus territory.
I can't see Tyrone make as many mistakes as they did against Kerry. The reality is that we didn't play anywhere as well as we could offensively and should have been out the gap. Kerry did a cracking job on the long kickouts. Mayo won't be able to achieve this. I am worried that O'Shea has a big game in him. If Tommy Conroy is kept as quiet as Sean O' Se was, then we're in good shape.  Last week I said Mayo. Today I say Tyrone, comfortably. I like the fact that Morgan is booming the kickouts if the short play isn't on. Better to lose the ball in midfield than in front of goal and also have the chance of a breaking ball to the half forwards. Makes for good viewing too. Go long for the 1st quarter and see what change we are getting out of it. Looking back at the semi, Dublin were pedestrian at times and frustrated at other times in a way that neither Tyrone and Kerry were. Never looked forward to a game as much as there isn't the same deep rooted emotional attachment that you would find in games against Kerry/Dublin (and Armagh!)

Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.

Aye, though not as funny as when Tyrone win it and half of this board go into hiding.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 06, 2021, 08:47:36 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ciar%C3%A1n-mcdonald-s-second-coming-ushers-in-a-new-era-for-mayo-1.4663361

Ciarán McDonald’s second coming ushers in a new era for Mayo
County luminary is seen as having had a major impact on senior team over past two years
about 3 hours ago
Aonghus Ó Maicín


 
 
 
Ciarán McDonald may have parted ways with his intercounty playing days in 2007, but within Mayo’s mind and soul he never really left. There was always hope of a comeback. It felt imminent at times. Whispers of his return became a perennial conversation every summer and even as he entered his late 30s, a good run of form with his club, Crossmolina Deel Rovers, would spark the debate. Could he still do the job?
Ageing may have diminished his powers but the county still longed to see those wavy blonde locks in a Mayo jersey once more, one final exhibition from the tip of that left predator boot. For all the whispers of imminent returns though, allied with reports of a club player in good nick, McDonald remained in the shadows.
The whispers eventually died down for a few years, only to resurface again in 2017. This time however, there was more substance to the chatter.
The word was that McDonald had joined up with Mayo’s rejuvenated academy system, and the early reports of the former player’s work had been immensely impressive. If anyone could cultivate the next McDonald, surely it would be the man himself.
His discreet return followed an informal meeting with Mike Connelly, Mayo GAA chairperson at the time, before an Under-21 Connacht championship clash between Mayo and Galway in 2017. Alongside his former team-mates David Heaney and Maurice Sheridan, the Crossmolina man agreed to come in from the cold. The night ultimately ended in defeat for Mayo, but had the county’s fans known what was happening behind the scenes, they would have been quietly satisfied with their lot leaving Tuam Stadium.
“You get talking to Ciarán for 10 or 15 minutes and you know that you’re on the right track,” remembers Connelly. “I wouldn’t have known a whole pile about him, directly or personally, but of all the coaches we would’ve brought on board, and they were all good, Ciarán was hugely, hugely impressive in a lot of ways. He lives, sleeps and dreams about coaching and tactics and all that sort of stuff.
 
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“And the other huge quality he has is that he’s brilliant with young fellas. He’s a great understanding of their current life situation and what they have to endure, whether it’s social media or school or college or whatever.”
Surprise
His presence back in and around Mayo football caught most by surprise. He wasn’t a noted coach, although he did a little underage coaching in his local area.
The most noteworthy sample of work on his short coaching résumé was his time with the local national school which won a county Cumann na mBunscol title. But it wasn’t the title that left an impression on those with a keen eye on footballing matters within the county. The children had played with the swagger so often associated with their coach.
Parents, teachers and casual observers in the MacHale Park stand at the 2017 Cumann na mBunscol finals looked on in awe.
Clever angles. Deft flicks. Reading the game to a level far beyond their years. Most importantly though, the youngsters were clearly loving their football as their coach offered gentle encouragement from the sideline.
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The performance had all the hallmarks of a coach who had spent his retirement years assiduously studying the game, popping up at countless seminars and workshops. But according to Connelly: “He never did a thing.”
And maybe that’s not such a surprise. McDonald’s greatest strength as a player was his way of seeing the game different to everybody else. Though that doesn’t necessarily translate to coaching excellence, judging by the early evidence of his work with underage players it did translate for McDonald. Immediately defying his reserved personality, just as he did during his playing career, he threw himself into the midst of the action with Mayo’s academies, predominantly with the Under-14 panel.
“Once he got in the door and out on the field, and once he got stuck in, you’d swear he was at it for months. You’d swear he was at it for years. It just came to him so naturally. He just needed to break through that little barrier to get out and get in there.
“We would have him coaching Under-14 games – A versus B – and Ciarán would be in the middle of the park playing with them. We had an Under-14, Under-15 and Under-16 academy and he was involved in coaching in all three of them. Ciarán McDonald would stay coaching 24/7,” says Connelly.
 Mayo’s Brendan Harrison celebrates with Ciarán McDonald after the 2021 GAA All-Ireland senior football championship semi-final against Dublin in Croke Park. Photograph: James Crombie/Inpho
“What I’ve heard is if Ciarán could prolong a session, he would,” adds Alan Dillon, his former team-mate. “That’s how driven he is as a player and a coach. If it was a 90-minute session, Ciarán would always try to bring it to 120 minutes. He was brought up through the early years of John Maughan when there was a real focus on physical fitness and hard work. And nobody probably worked as hard as Ciarán McDonald when he was a player and he probably has that huge work ethic as a coach.
“There’s always a time limit with strength and conditioning coaches, who don’t want players to max out on a Tuesday night to give them time to recover for a Thursday session, but that’s not a bad trait to have.”
Ascent
The work he was carrying out wasn’t going to go unnoticed and somebody as astute as James Horan was unlikely to ignore the stream of glittering reports.
In 2019, the first season of Horan’s second stint in charge, Mayo crashed out of the championship following another semi-final defeat to Dublin. But the 10-point gap between the sides at the final whistle almost seemed generous to the Westerners. Although they had failed to get the better of their rivals since 2012, they always served up a tussle the record-setters could find nowhere else. It was a portentous day for Horan and his side, the inevitability of multiple retirements finally flickering on the horizon.
It left the Mayo manager with plenty to mull over during the winter period. And so his attention was eventually drawn to the man causing a stir for all the right reasons within the academy structures.
McDonald joined the Mayo management team that December and has since helped lead a relatively young squad to back-to-back All-Ireland finals, despite losing many ultra-dependables of recent years to retirement. It’s difficult to gauge his influence, though it’s widely felt that his contribution to the way Mayo have gone about business over the last two seasons has been significant.
“There’s a freedom there,” insists Dillon. “There’s an expression there. Everyone is probably enjoying their football.”
That begs the question: are Mayo’s academy structures losing out by McDonald’s involvement with the senior panel?
“If it was me, my next plan would be to recruit him as a full-time coach for all our development squads and he would also play a big role with minor and Under-20 squads,” says Connelly.
“What you would love to see is Ciarán spending four or five years with the squads – whether it was Under-14, Under-15, Under-16 or Under-17 – and as they come of age, you would see the fruits of his work at a later stage.”
Not everyone would agree with those sentiments, Dillon included.
“Ultimately, the success of the county is driven by the senior team and that’s no disrespect to the academies. Certainly, they are hugely important as a feeder system but we cannot have Ciarán’s focus being moved or diluted going back into academies.
“While you’d love to clone two or three Ciarán Macs, there’s an opportunity for other coaches now to step in and fill his shoes.
“And it’s a great time for him to be involved at senior level, to see where these players can get to, to see how they can develop.”
Ultimately, there is no right answer.
But after years without the services of their luminary in any guise, it’s a dilemma Mayo will be happy to endure.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 06, 2021, 09:54:21 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/malachy-clerkin-regrets-the-rest-will-have-a-few-but-this-is-mayo-and-tyrone-s-week-1.4665445

Both teams have obvious deficiencies. Mayo haven’t turned up in either of the first halves of their last two games in Croke Park. They were able to paper over the crack of missing Cillian O’Connor all the way through Connacht but for all of Ryan O’Donoghue’s moxie, his free-taking began to creak at just the wrong time against Dublin. Aidan O’Shea had the worst game of his life in the semi-final and now, at the age of 31, they have to work out what to do with him all over again.
Tyrone are no dead cert either. Much like Mayo, they put in a half of truly hapless football in the Ulster final against a Monaghan team who didn’t do anything more sophisticated than push up on them and wire into them. Their starting forwards attempted just one shot from play in the first half against Kerry - a Darren McCurry effort that was blocked down. Their kick-out is mercurial, to say the least.
After years of wondering would anyone ever find a hole in the Death Star, we’re heading into a final where neither team is close to being the finished product. There will be lots of mistakes, plenty of turnovers, handling errors to beat the band. There will, you’d imagine, be a distinct lack of polish to it all. An understandable absence of the studious do-the-right-thing excellence of the Dublin years.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 06, 2021, 09:59:22 AM
I worry for Mayo when I see the article Aidan O Shea just allowed himself to be part off in the Sunday World this weekend. It shows a lack of focus and a lack of respect for his team mates and manager. I think they are amazingly (and I mean amazingly for Mayo having lost so many finals) taking Tyrone for granted.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 06, 2021, 10:07:34 AM
Loving the Mayo confidence with this one, yet again, and just wondering what Screenexile's handicap is for filling his boots too!  :P ;)

Jeez Tyrone are great at fabricating an air of confidence into existence so they can convince themselves to get annoyed.
One Mayo fan and a couple of tyrone fans confident, afaics

I'm to-ing and fro-ing with this one. Mayo will die on their feet as they will see this as, finally, the opportunity to put the ghost to bed. But is this what will ultimately beat them? The pressure is firmly on Mayo here whereas Tyrone are in bonus territory.
I can't see Tyrone make as many mistakes as they did against Kerry. The reality is that we didn't play anywhere as well as we could offensively and should have been out the gap. Kerry did a cracking job on the long kickouts. Mayo won't be able to achieve this. I am worried that O'Shea has a big game in him. If Tommy Conroy is kept as quiet as Sean O' Se was, then we're in good shape.  Last week I said Mayo. Today I say Tyrone, comfortably. I like the fact that Morgan is booming the kickouts if the short play isn't on. Better to lose the ball in midfield than in front of goal and also have the chance of a breaking ball to the half forwards. Makes for good viewing too. Go long for the 1st quarter and see what change we are getting out of it. Looking back at the semi, Dublin were pedestrian at times and frustrated at other times in a way that neither Tyrone and Kerry were. Never looked forward to a game as much as there isn't the same deep rooted emotional attachment that you would find in games against Kerry/Dublin (and Armagh!)

Are we still going to split Dublin, or has that lost momentum?

The refs all ready list the game for someone before the ball has been thrown in!

More importantly is it definitely on next week?

Not sure if Tyrone have agreed to play next week or not yet. Should get word by Monday or Tuesday.

Nothing funnier than an outbreak of COVID.
No team wants to be that team that loses a senior All Ireland final to Mayo. Will be funny if Tyrone are that team.

Aye, though not as funny as when Tyrone win it and half of this board go into hiding.



I think Tyrone need a five point lead at half time, and I don’t think they will (or I pray they don’t)


Mayo wont lose this one , mayo are the best team in Ireland at present and will win this comfortably  by a bigger margin than anyone will predict .

Mayo wont lose this one , mayo are the best team in Ireland at present and will win this comfortably  by a bigger margin than anyone will predict .
Not me!
I did predict that Mayo.would beat Dublin by a half dozen points at the start of thàt semi thread and I see no reason to alter my view this time.
Okay the result was only half that but my money will be on Mayo this time also.

But sure there’s nothin wrong with a bit of optimism. I hate people playing the poor me.
As a Tyronie, I’m confident. I don’t think we’ve seen the full picture from the team yet. I think each game we have got stronger and I’m hoping we’ve timed it well to have the final as the showpiece where we have McShane, McKenna, Canavan, McCurry firing on all cylinders.

It’s a great place to be, going into a final with a general expectancy that we can win. It’ll be close I think. Really close!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tiempo on September 06, 2021, 10:09:37 AM
I worry for Mayo when I see the article Aidan O Shea just allowed himself to be part off in the Sunday World this weekend. It shows a lack of focus and a lack of respect for his team mates and manager. I think they are amazingly (and I mean amazingly for Mayo having lost so many finals) taking Tyrone for granted.

Was a truly shambolic effort and likely to come back to haunt him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0o3l7LqK6o
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 06, 2021, 10:10:36 AM
I worry for Mayo when I see the article Aidan O Shea just allowed himself to be part off in the Sunday World this weekend. It shows a lack of focus and a lack of respect for his team mates and manager. I think they are amazingly (and I mean amazingly for Mayo having lost so many finals) taking Tyrone for granted.

What was the jist?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 06, 2021, 10:12:16 AM
I worry for Mayo when I see the article Aidan O Shea just allowed himself to be part off in the Sunday World this weekend. It shows a lack of focus and a lack of respect for his team mates and manager. I think they are amazingly (and I mean amazingly for Mayo having lost so many finals) taking Tyrone for granted.

What was the jist?

Well there is a full page photo of Aiden running on the beach in his speedos for a start.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tiempo on September 06, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 06, 2021, 10:25:31 AM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the Tyrone semi final, but was obviously finalised before the game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 06, 2021, 10:29:27 AM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the final, but was obviously finalised before the Tyrone game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

What attitude?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 06, 2021, 10:42:47 AM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the Tyrone semi final, but was obviously finalised before the game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

I would say within their camp it is not the norm but might be the norm for O Shea and it will surely not be something his team mates will like to see, especially since they are most likely trying to keep their heads down and stay away from the hype. A really really poor decision from O Shea.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 06, 2021, 10:43:23 AM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the Tyrone semi final, but was obviously finalised before the game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

From what I can see O'Shea says his girlfriend is from Kerry but he has converted her to being a Mayo fan, and that the final will be tough whether it is against Kerry or Tyrone. Much ado about nothing.

Brolly was banging on about the 'new Mayo' a few weeks ago after initially saying they'd lose to Dublin. That's par for the course when he gets something wrong, a team is rebranded to suggest his prediction was based on a previous version of that team. Now he has rolled in behind the new Tyrone. If we lose he'll be the first to stick the knife in and will be bigging up Mayo ending the barren years.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 06, 2021, 11:02:08 AM

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on September 06, 2021, 11:02:15 AM
No yearraing from me, I just cant see where we (mayo) are going to get the scores from. Even with the matchups Tyrone have probably 2 Mayo forwards to quieten, Tommy C and Ryan. Tommy has great potential but only really lets loose in 5 to 10 minute bursts and then only really when in CHF, he can easily be bottled up in the corner. Ryan will bust his arse all day but does like to take 2 or 3 lads on and Tyrone will love that.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: lenny on September 06, 2021, 11:24:50 AM
No yearraing from me, I just cant see where we (mayo) are going to get the scores from. Even with the matchups Tyrone have probably 2 Mayo forwards to quieten, Tommy C and Ryan. Tommy has great potential but only really lets loose in 5 to 10 minute bursts and then only really when in CHF, he can easily be bottled up in the corner. Ryan will bust his arse all day but does like to take 2 or 3 lads on and Tyrone will love that.

That’s the way I see it also. I can’t see Mayo scoring any more than 0.12 or 0.13. That’s being optimistic also and I just don’t see that as being enough. On O’Shea he’s not the talisman for Mayo any more and he’s now just a marginal selection. Because of that I don’t see the article as being all that significant. There is probably a fair chance he will be left out if Mayo are at full strength.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tiempo on September 06, 2021, 11:30:56 AM
No yearraing from me, I just cant see where we (mayo) are going to get the scores from. Even with the matchups Tyrone have probably 2 Mayo forwards to quieten, Tommy C and Ryan. Tommy has great potential but only really lets loose in 5 to 10 minute bursts and then only really when in CHF, he can easily be bottled up in the corner. Ryan will bust his arse all day but does like to take 2 or 3 lads on and Tyrone will love that.

That’s the way I see it also. I can’t see Mayo scoring any more than 0.12 or 0.13. That’s being optimistic also and I just don’t see that as being enough. On O’Shea he’s not the talisman for Mayo any more and he’s now just a marginal selection. Because of that I don’t see the article as being all that significant. There is probably a fair chance he will be left out if Mayo are at full strength.

At full strength the captain doesn't make the team?

Begorra there would be riots if Hasselhoff didn't make the cut
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 06, 2021, 11:37:45 AM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the final, but was obviously finalised before the Tyrone game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

What attitude?

Doing the whole "up for the match" style piece, bigging up family links with the opposition County, before Kerry had even got to the final! If she was from Limerick or Donegal would he have said it?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 06, 2021, 12:16:47 PM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the final, but was obviously finalised before the Tyrone game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

What attitude?

Doing the whole "up for the match" style piece, bigging up family links with the opposition County, before Kerry had even got to the final! If she was from Limerick or Donegal would he have said it?

that whole piece was done months ago. It's recency is down to the fact that Mayo are in the final and it was part of a promo for a company that released it as part of an 10th anniversary press release at the end of July.
Good chance this was all done long before the Connacht Final and only getting published now in that paper. Its been regurgitated a few times now by the same publishing stable. Slow news days etc, but the printers getting value for money from the same story.

Can never understand the rage people have on the rare occasion this lad's photo is in a paper. If we makes a few extra euro's off getting his photo taken, good luck to him. He'll be getting loads of abuse from certain quarters no matter what he does.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on September 06, 2021, 12:19:56 PM
Fuckin daftness from O'Shea, really really poor judgement. It isnt going to make a difference to the result but in the list of hinder or help ya, its definitely in the doesnt help ya bucket. And if we lose then its just grist to the mill of Brolly, O'Rourke et al.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 06, 2021, 12:21:49 PM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the final, but was obviously finalised before the Tyrone game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

What attitude?

Doing the whole "up for the match" style piece, bigging up family links with the opposition County, before Kerry had even got to the final! If she was from Limerick or Donegal would he have said it?

that whole piece was done months ago. It's recency is down to the fact that Mayo are in the final and it was part of a promo for a company that released it as part of an 10th anniversary press release at the end of July.
Good chance this was all done long before the Connacht Final and only getting published now in that paper. Its been regurgitated a few times now by the same publishing stable. Slow news days etc, but the printers getting value for money from the same story.

Can never understand the rage people have on the rare occasion this lad's photo is in a paper. If we makes a few extra euro's off getting his photo taken, good luck to him. He'll be getting loads of abuse from certain quarters no matter what he does.

Months ago my bollix
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Crete Boom on September 06, 2021, 12:33:46 PM
So I take it I shouldn't bother watching the final cause O'Shea has lost it for us again but this time he has given us a week's notice?
Also why can't the Knockmore lads let the rest of us in the county know earlier since their celebrity power couple always seem to know we are doomed before everyone else going by Brolly's articles in the paper??
Why can't O'Shea, now that he is Captain let Keegan, O'Donoghue and Conroy et all, explain to the lads that it might be easier on themselves and fans a like to bow out gracefully in a semi final and let us enjoy a final with two proper teams of down to earth, volunteer hero, fíor Gael laden with warriors battle it out on the hallowed ground and then we can enjoy the videos of them sweeping the dressing rooms and Irish dancing to Damien Dempsey after showing us all how real football is played??
I dunno at this stage I have lived through Liam McHale losing us All Ireland finals just to keep himself in hair gel to look good for his NBA moves on the court, Ciaran 'Barbie' McDonald more interested in tattoos than kicking points and now O'Shea burgeoning career as an extra on Baywatch losing us another decider!!
The biggest crime of all was the removal of two fíor Gael football men like Holmes and Connelly, who not only brought the highest degree of professionalism along with tactical acumen but they also held their silence after their tragic betrayal when they quite easily could have run to a journalist with an axe to grind against Mayo after any of the final loses and cashed in with a tell all type interview!! Mayo god help us indeed!!!
Congrats to Tyrone in advance on All Ireland title number 4 I just wish the next title comes against a more worthy opponent!!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 06, 2021, 12:36:21 PM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the final, but was obviously finalised before the Tyrone game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

What attitude?

Doing the whole "up for the match" style piece, bigging up family links with the opposition County, before Kerry had even got to the final! If she was from Limerick or Donegal would he have said it?

that whole piece was done months ago. It's recency is down to the fact that Mayo are in the final and it was part of a promo for a company that released it as part of an 10th anniversary press release at the end of July.
Good chance this was all done long before the Connacht Final and only getting published now in that paper. Its been regurgitated a few times now by the same publishing stable. Slow news days etc, but the printers getting value for money from the same story.

Can never understand the rage people have on the rare occasion this lad's photo is in a paper. If we makes a few extra euro's off getting his photo taken, good luck to him. He'll be getting loads of abuse from certain quarters no matter what he does.

Months ago my bollix

Google it yourself if you like. It's there from the end of July, likely an embargo release on it anyway to coincide with the anniversary for the company being promoted. That's how these things work.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 06, 2021, 12:37:47 PM
So I take it I shouldn't bother watching the final cause O'Shea has lost it for us again but this time he has given us a week's notice?
Also why can't the Knockmore lads let the rest of us in the county know earlier since their celebrity power couple always seem to know we are doomed before everyone else going by Brolly's articles in the paper??
Why can't O'Shea, now that he is Captain let Keegan, O'Donoghue and Conroy et all, explain to the lads that it might be easier on themselves and fans a like to bow out gracefully in a semi final and let us enjoy a final with two proper teams of down to earth, volunteer hero, fíor Gael laden with warriors battle it out on the hallowed ground and then we can enjoy the videos of them sweeping the dressing rooms and Irish dancing to Damien Dempsey after showing us all how real football is played??
I dunno at this stage I have lived through Liam McHale losing us All Ireland finals just to keep himself in hair gel to look good for his NBA moves on the court, Ciaran 'Barbie' McDonald more interested in tattoos than kicking points and now O'Shea burgeoning career as an extra on Baywatch losing us another decider!!
The biggest crime of all was the removal of two fíor Gael football men like Holmes and Connelly, who not only brought the highest degree of professionalism along with tactical acumen but they also held their silence after their tragic betrayal when they quite easily could have run to a journalist with an axe to grind against Mayo after any of the final loses and cashed in with a tell all type interview!! Mayo god help us indeed!!!
Congrats to Tyrone in advance on All Ireland title number 4 I just wish the next title comes against a more worthy opponent!!!

don't forget how people putting flags outside of their houses has cost us all Irelands in the past.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: JoG2 on September 06, 2021, 12:40:13 PM
No yearraing from me, I just cant see where we (mayo) are going to get the scores from. Even with the matchups Tyrone have probably 2 Mayo forwards to quieten, Tommy C and Ryan. Tommy has great potential but only really lets loose in 5 to 10 minute bursts and then only really when in CHF, he can easily be bottled up in the corner. Ryan will bust his arse all day but does like to take 2 or 3 lads on and Tyrone will love that.

That’s the way I see it also. I can’t see Mayo scoring any more than 0.12 or 0.13. That’s being optimistic also and I just don’t see that as being enough. On O’Shea he’s not the talisman for Mayo any more and he’s now just a marginal selection. Because of that I don’t see the article as being all that significant. There is probably a fair chance he will be left out if Mayo are at full strength.

Potentially, Hennelly could bag a couple. Keegan, Durcan 1/2 each. Ruane / Loftus in midfield could and have hit decent scores between them in this year's championship. Mcloughlin, McHale, O'Connor a couple between them. And even if Conroy and O'Donoghue didn't manage a single point from play, could still hit 5/6 between them from dead balls... That's Mayo up around 14/15 without even thinking about goals. All conjecture of course, but showing where Mayo could rack up a decent scoreline if the 2 inside forwards are completely nullified from play.

How much physicality McQuillan allows will have a massive baring on the game. Will be an intriguing contest to say the least... Mayo by 5 (though I predicted Kerry by 5 in the semi final!)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 06, 2021, 12:49:12 PM
How much physicality McQuillan allows will have a massive baring on the game. Will be an intriguing contest to say the least... Mayo by 5 (though I predicted Kerry by 5 in the semi final!)

Fecking brill!  ;D :D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 06, 2021, 12:53:52 PM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the final, but was obviously finalised before the Tyrone game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

What attitude?

Doing the whole "up for the match" style piece, bigging up family links with the opposition County, before Kerry had even got to the final! If she was from Limerick or Donegal would he have said it?

that whole piece was done months ago. It's recency is down to the fact that Mayo are in the final and it was part of a promo for a company that released it as part of an 10th anniversary press release at the end of July.
Good chance this was all done long before the Connacht Final and only getting published now in that paper. Its been regurgitated a few times now by the same publishing stable. Slow news days etc, but the printers getting value for money from the same story.

Can never understand the rage people have on the rare occasion this lad's photo is in a paper. If we makes a few extra euro's off getting his photo taken, good luck to him. He'll be getting loads of abuse from certain quarters no matter what he does.

Months ago my bollix

Google it yourself if you like. It's there from the end of July, likely an embargo release on it anyway to coincide with the anniversary for the company being promoted. That's how these things work.

He's quoted talking about a match against either Kerry or Tyrone. Would take some balls to be talking about that before a connacht final  ;D

The interview was obviously done a day or 2 after the Dublin game and saved for a Sunday paper. Don't think it will make a blind bit of difference myself, but he's probably making a rod for his back if the result doesn't work out.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: JoG2 on September 06, 2021, 12:58:14 PM
How much physicality McQuillan allows will have a massive baring on the game. Will be an intriguing contest to say the least... Mayo by 5 (though I predicted Kerry by 5 in the semi final!)

Fecking brill!  ;D :D

Book the open top bus now at a reduced rate!  ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2021, 12:59:04 PM
No yearraing from me, I just cant see where we (mayo) are going to get the scores from. Even with the matchups Tyrone have probably 2 Mayo forwards to quieten, Tommy C and Ryan. Tommy has great potential but only really lets loose in 5 to 10 minute bursts and then only really when in CHF, he can easily be bottled up in the corner. Ryan will bust his arse all day but does like to take 2 or 3 lads on and Tyrone will love that.

That’s the way I see it also. I can’t see Mayo scoring any more than 0.12 or 0.13. That’s being optimistic also and I just don’t see that as being enough. On O’Shea he’s not the talisman for Mayo any more and he’s now just a marginal selection. Because of that I don’t see the article as being all that significant. There is probably a fair chance he will be left out if Mayo are at full strength.

Tyrone championship scores against Mayo. 0-12,0-13,0-13,1-9,1-6 and 0-13 was enough for Mayo to bring Dublin to extra time.

They'll be more opportunities for Mayo to score a goal or two against that Tyrone defence than Dublins and I feel Tyrone best chance of winning is scoring at least two goals but as Jim McGuinness said they are less likely to get gifts off the Mayo defence.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Real Talk on September 06, 2021, 01:13:04 PM
I think the the mid-field issue is over talked ... Tyrone won 3 All-Irelands and there wasn't any significant mid field displays in that period .. they always played a fifth man team game.  That had one chief driver and that Brian Dooher.  He is now bringing that effect from the sideline and has a unbelievable "never say die mentality" ,will to win and experience.  I'd say Tyrone will start McShane now that he has had enough game time under his belt. When given the correct type of ball he is actually unmarkable with his ability to score off either foot, they just can't wait until the second half to bring him on .... although you never know.  They may prefer to wait till the 3rd quarter when the will have assessed Mayo's strengths and weaknesses.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 01:34:08 PM
So I take it I shouldn't bother watching the final cause O'Shea has lost it for us again but this time he has given us a week's notice?
Also why can't the Knockmore lads let the rest of us in the county know earlier since their celebrity power couple always seem to know we are doomed before everyone else going by Brolly's articles in the paper??
Why can't O'Shea, now that he is Captain let Keegan, O'Donoghue and Conroy et all, explain to the lads that it might be easier on themselves and fans a like to bow out gracefully in a semi final and let us enjoy a final with two proper teams of down to earth, volunteer hero, fíor Gael laden with warriors battle it out on the hallowed ground and then we can enjoy the videos of them sweeping the dressing rooms and Irish dancing to Damien Dempsey after showing us all how real football is played??
I dunno at this stage I have lived through Liam McHale losing us All Ireland finals just to keep himself in hair gel to look good for his NBA moves on the court, Ciaran 'Barbie' McDonald more interested in tattoos than kicking points and now O'Shea burgeoning career as an extra on Baywatch losing us another decider!!
The biggest crime of all was the removal of two fíor Gael football men like Holmes and Connelly, who not only brought the highest degree of professionalism along with tactical acumen but they also held their silence after their tragic betrayal when they quite easily could have run to a journalist with an axe to grind against Mayo after any of the final loses and cashed in with a tell all type interview!! Mayo god help us indeed!!!
Congrats to Tyrone in advance on All Ireland title number 4 I just wish the next title comes against a more worthy opponent!!!

don't forget how people putting flags outside of their houses has cost us all Irelands in the past.

I thought it was people enjoying the build up and showing any signs of optimism!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 06, 2021, 01:37:13 PM
Its on Brolly's twitter feed if anyone cares to look for a laugh

Christ on a bike. That's unbelievable. Playing up the Kerry connections before a potential final against the Kingdom. And his poor Kerry girlfriend not knowing who to support in the final! Funny how it was published the day after the final, but was obviously finalised before the Tyrone game. Is this attitude the norm in Mayo?

What attitude?

Doing the whole "up for the match" style piece, bigging up family links with the opposition County, before Kerry had even got to the final! If she was from Limerick or Donegal would he have said it?

that whole piece was done months ago. It's recency is down to the fact that Mayo are in the final and it was part of a promo for a company that released it as part of an 10th anniversary press release at the end of July.
Good chance this was all done long before the Connacht Final and only getting published now in that paper. Its been regurgitated a few times now by the same publishing stable. Slow news days etc, but the printers getting value for money from the same story.

Can never understand the rage people have on the rare occasion this lad's photo is in a paper. If we makes a few extra euro's off getting his photo taken, good luck to him. He'll be getting loads of abuse from certain quarters no matter what he does.

Months ago my bollix
Be careful Larry ;you could lose your town halls!
That appeared in the Mayo News at least two months ago. Mind you, no photos.
Some time ago Paul Flynn took part in some advertising campaign or other. Pint is that his likeness on was put on a billboard on the railway bridge in Ballybough. One of the highest profile spots in Dublin and I can't recall  Brolly or anyone else reacting.  Players, Dubs especially, have took part in promotional campaigns without a a squawk from Brolly.
The man's a wart on the arse of humanity.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Crete Boom on September 06, 2021, 01:43:55 PM
So I take it I shouldn't bother watching the final cause O'Shea has lost it for us again but this time he has given us a week's notice?
Also why can't the Knockmore lads let the rest of us in the county know earlier since their celebrity power couple always seem to know we are doomed before everyone else going by Brolly's articles in the paper??
Why can't O'Shea, now that he is Captain let Keegan, O'Donoghue and Conroy et all, explain to the lads that it might be easier on themselves and fans a like to bow out gracefully in a semi final and let us enjoy a final with two proper teams of down to earth, volunteer hero, fíor Gael laden with warriors battle it out on the hallowed ground and then we can enjoy the videos of them sweeping the dressing rooms and Irish dancing to Damien Dempsey after showing us all how real football is played??
I dunno at this stage I have lived through Liam McHale losing us All Ireland finals just to keep himself in hair gel to look good for his NBA moves on the court, Ciaran 'Barbie' McDonald more interested in tattoos than kicking points and now O'Shea burgeoning career as an extra on Baywatch losing us another decider!!
The biggest crime of all was the removal of two fíor Gael football men like Holmes and Connelly, who not only brought the highest degree of professionalism along with tactical acumen but they also held their silence after their tragic betrayal when they quite easily could have run to a journalist with an axe to grind against Mayo after any of the final loses and cashed in with a tell all type interview!! Mayo god help us indeed!!!
Congrats to Tyrone in advance on All Ireland title number 4 I just wish the next title comes against a more worthy opponent!!!

don't forget how people putting flags outside of their houses has cost us all Irelands in the past.

I thought it was people enjoying the build up and showing any signs of optimism!
Can we not just buy the process thing the GAA spent millions developing for Dublin, it should at least give us naive Mayo folk a few pointers on how many Ford Escorts and Opel Cadets we can paint green and red or how big a Mayo4Sam sign should be??
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 01:44:50 PM
I see a good point made on the mayo blog comments

“ 4/6 of the Tyrone backs scored from play. 3 in the 1st half alone. How did this happen? It stemmed from the total failure of the opposite Kerry players to track back. The 3 scores were very soft and uncontested. There is no way at all that the Mayo FF line or whomever is marking them will allow this to occur or repeat itself.”
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 06, 2021, 01:50:51 PM
I see a good point made on the mayo blog comments

“ 4/6 of the Tyrone backs scored from play. 3 in the 1st half alone. How did this happen? It stemmed from the total failure of the opposite Kerry players to track back. The 3 scores were very soft and uncontested. There is no way at all that the Mayo FF line or whomever is marking them will allow this to occur or repeat itself.”

Lookit, you could wrap yourself up in circles analysing things like that. The flip of that is that it’ll be harder for the Mayo FF line to attack if they’re being put on the back foot. You could literally take any point and prob argue both sides to it.
Just on Flag watch as well, there’s a few Mayo flags seen in Omagh and surrounding areas. But Sally’s have their banner up now so it’s all good.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 06, 2021, 01:51:36 PM
I see a good point made on the mayo blog comments

“ 4/6 of the Tyrone backs scored from play. 3 in the 1st half alone. How did this happen? It stemmed from the total failure of the opposite Kerry players to track back. The 3 scores were very soft and uncontested. There is no way at all that the Mayo FF line or whomever is marking them will allow this to occur or repeat itself.”

Does Mayo supporters see any possible way that Mayo could lose this All-Ireland final on Saturday?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 01:55:38 PM
I see a good point made on the mayo blog comments

“ 4/6 of the Tyrone backs scored from play. 3 in the 1st half alone. How did this happen? It stemmed from the total failure of the opposite Kerry players to track back. The 3 scores were very soft and uncontested. There is no way at all that the Mayo FF line or whomever is marking them will allow this to occur or repeat itself.”

Does Mayo supporters see any possible way that Mayo could lose this All-Ireland final on Saturday?

Plenty, and as a Mayo supporter I’m well aware of all the bizarre ways to lose we’ve demonstrated over the years. But what’s the point dwelling on it? For the next few days at least we still have a chance, so might as well enjoy it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Crete Boom on September 06, 2021, 01:59:54 PM
I see a good point made on the mayo blog comments

“ 4/6 of the Tyrone backs scored from play. 3 in the 1st half alone. How did this happen? It stemmed from the total failure of the opposite Kerry players to track back. The 3 scores were very soft and uncontested. There is no way at all that the Mayo FF line or whomever is marking them will allow this to occur or repeat itself.”

Does Mayo supporters see any possible way that Mayo could lose this All-Ireland final on Saturday?

We never think we are going to lose any final, sure why would we. We always have everything covered, interviews in papers, cars, sheep even ducks painted green and red, houses decked in flags, Mayo4Sam written everywhere from the south of France to Belmullet. When we win on Saturday (hard luck Tyrone by the way) it will be the start of seven in a row!!
If getting ahead of ourselves was a problem for Mayo sure surely other counties would let us know or a journalist or two at least would write an informative article about it??
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WT4E on September 06, 2021, 02:01:20 PM
I think the the mid-field issue is over talked ... Tyrone won 3 All-Irelands and there wasn't any significant mid field displays in that period .. they always played a fifth man team game.  That had one chief driver and that Brian Dooher.  He is now bringing that effect from the sideline and has a unbelievable "never say die mentality" ,will to win and experience.  I'd say Tyrone will start McShane now that he has had enough game time under his belt. When given the correct type of ball he is actually unmarkable with his ability to score off either foot, they just can't wait until the second half to bring him on .... although you never know.  They may prefer to wait till the 3rd quarter when the will have assessed Mayo's strengths and weaknesses.

Was big Hub not MOTM in 03 final?

And Cavanagh was always a big performer in 03 and 05 throughout the champo???
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 06, 2021, 02:12:37 PM
I see a good point made on the mayo blog comments

“ 4/6 of the Tyrone backs scored from play. 3 in the 1st half alone. How did this happen? It stemmed from the total failure of the opposite Kerry players to track back. The 3 scores were very soft and uncontested. There is no way at all that the Mayo FF line or whomever is marking them will allow this to occur or repeat itself.”

Does Mayo supporters see any possible way that Mayo could lose this All-Ireland final on Saturday?

Plenty, and as a Mayo supporter I’m well aware of all the bizarre ways to lose we’ve demonstrated over the years. But what’s the point dwelling on it? For the next few days at least we still have a chance, so might as well enjoy it

Indeed - sure look, I've seen it written that someone had flags and stuff up outside their house in Ballsbridge or Blackrock or somewhere. According to some thats enough for the team to lose the run of themselves. Has cost us the All Ireland already.

In all seriousness - it's a 50 50 game, the bookies have the odds a little skewed in my view, and Mayo need to play to the very best of their abilities and hope for a slice of luck which seems to have eluded us in too many finals before now.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 06, 2021, 02:14:43 PM
That’s some serious under-assessment of the roles Hughes, Cavanagh and mcGinley played in AI Finals.

There’s forgetfulness in many internet comments. There’s revisionism everywhere and it’s frustrating. And then there’s the “are you f**king mental?” contributions. That’s where this one belongs.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on September 06, 2021, 02:21:59 PM
Perhaps the O Shea factor could bea feature. Mayo's captain and talisman has already had his annual stinker out of the way before the final.. Assuming he has got his head in the right place in the last couple of weeks, he is on his day a potential matchwinner for Mayo.  All the talk is that Mayo wont start him and watch how the game is going.  Big call to drop him when he could have a key role to play, and can finally get the monkey of his back in an all Ireland final. If Aidan O Shea plays he could well have a big influence on proceedings either in midfield, tracking Donnelly or indeed bolstering the inside threat of the Mayo ff line.  I have a half feeling he will be timed to come in when Mc Shane comes in.     
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 02:23:07 PM
Perhaps the O Shea factor could bea feature. Mayo's captain and talisman has already had his annual stinker out of the way before the final.. Assuming he has got his head in the right place in the last couple of weeks, he is on his day a potential matchwinner for Mayo.  All the talk is that Mayo wont start him and watch how the game is going.  Big call to drop him when he could have a key role to play, and can finally get the monkey of his back in an all Ireland final. If Aidan O Shea plays he could well have a big influence on proceedings either in midfield, tracking Donnelly or indeed bolstering the inside threat of the Mayo ff line.  I have a half feeling he will be timed to come in when Mc Shane comes in.     

I think id start him around the middle and then float him further forward later on depending on how the game is going
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2021, 02:27:44 PM
Perhaps the O Shea factor could bea feature. Mayo's captain and talisman has already had his annual stinker out of the way before the final.. Assuming he has got his head in the right place in the last couple of weeks, he is on his day a potential matchwinner for Mayo.  All the talk is that Mayo wont start him and watch how the game is going.  Big call to drop him when he could have a key role to play, and can finally get the monkey of his back in an all Ireland final. If Aidan O Shea plays he could well have a big influence on proceedings either in midfield, tracking Donnelly or indeed bolstering the inside threat of the Mayo ff line.  I have a half feeling he will be timed to come in when Mc Shane comes in.     

If I recall right AOS nearly always performed well against Tyrone while he's struggled to deliver any impact v Dublin.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on September 06, 2021, 02:33:11 PM
Perhaps the O Shea factor could bea feature. Mayo's captain and talisman has already had his annual stinker out of the way before the final.. Assuming he has got his head in the right place in the last couple of weeks, he is on his day a potential matchwinner for Mayo.  All the talk is that Mayo wont start him and watch how the game is going.  Big call to drop him when he could have a key role to play, and can finally get the monkey of his back in an all Ireland final. If Aidan O Shea plays he could well have a big influence on proceedings either in midfield, tracking Donnelly or indeed bolstering the inside threat of the Mayo ff line.  I have a half feeling he will be timed to come in when Mc Shane comes in.     

If I recall right AOS nearly always performed well against Tyrone while he's struggled to deliver any impact v Dublin.
Yes, he has no fear of Tyrone. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 02:34:35 PM
Perhaps the O Shea factor could bea feature. Mayo's captain and talisman has already had his annual stinker out of the way before the final.. Assuming he has got his head in the right place in the last couple of weeks, he is on his day a potential matchwinner for Mayo.  All the talk is that Mayo wont start him and watch how the game is going.  Big call to drop him when he could have a key role to play, and can finally get the monkey of his back in an all Ireland final. If Aidan O Shea plays he could well have a big influence on proceedings either in midfield, tracking Donnelly or indeed bolstering the inside threat of the Mayo ff line.  I have a half feeling he will be timed to come in when Mc Shane comes in.     




I watched back the 2016 game there yesterday, the first score of the game was a brilliant kick from himself from outside the 45 on the outside of the boot. Seemed fairly quiet after that. Last kick of the game he took a free kick and played an absolute hospital pass to Clarke, could’ve been a disaster!
If I recall right AOS nearly always performed well against Tyrone while he's struggled to deliver any impact v Dublin.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 06, 2021, 02:40:33 PM
Perhaps the O Shea factor could bea feature. Mayo's captain and talisman has already had his annual stinker out of the way before the final.. Assuming he has got his head in the right place in the last couple of weeks, he is on his day a potential matchwinner for Mayo.  All the talk is that Mayo wont start him and watch how the game is going.  Big call to drop him when he could have a key role to play, and can finally get the monkey of his back in an all Ireland final. If Aidan O Shea plays he could well have a big influence on proceedings either in midfield, tracking Donnelly or indeed bolstering the inside threat of the Mayo ff line.  I have a half feeling he will be timed to come in when Mc Shane comes in.     

He'll definitely start, don't think there's any question there. We've lots of depth in terms of defensive cover, but we don't really have a nailed on full forward or centre half forward.

I'd say he'll start at 11 and spend most of the first half around midfield anyway.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 02:44:17 PM
Perhaps the O Shea factor could bea feature. Mayo's captain and talisman has already had his annual stinker out of the way before the final.. Assuming he has got his head in the right place in the last couple of weeks, he is on his day a potential matchwinner for Mayo.  All the talk is that Mayo wont start him and watch how the game is going.  Big call to drop him when he could have a key role to play, and can finally get the monkey of his back in an all Ireland final. If Aidan O Shea plays he could well have a big influence on proceedings either in midfield, tracking Donnelly or indeed bolstering the inside threat of the Mayo ff line.  I have a half feeling he will be timed to come in when Mc Shane comes in.     

He'll definitely start, don't think there's any question there. We've lots of depth in terms of defensive cover, but we don't really have a nailed on full forward or centre half forward.

I'd say he'll start at 11 and spend most of the first half around midfield anyway.

I’d agree with this
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: highorlow on September 06, 2021, 02:56:05 PM
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  But Sally’s have their banner up now so it’s all good.

Great steak in that shop. Mighty spot.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 06, 2021, 03:09:50 PM
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  But Sally’s have their banner up now so it’s all good.

Great steak in that shop. Mighty spot.

Good spot all right. Many a night (and £) spent in it over the years. I’d link a pic but not sure how too.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 06, 2021, 03:19:41 PM

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 06, 2021, 03:32:20 PM
 :D
that's class in fairness.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 06, 2021, 03:39:25 PM
We can lose the run of ourselves up here with the best of them. Plus we get a head start on painting kerbs. It gets started in July, we just need to get rid of the blue!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 06, 2021, 04:08:52 PM
We can lose the run of ourselves up here with the best of them. Plus we get a head start on painting kerbs. It gets started in July, we just need to get rid of the blue!!

Ah it's a bit of craic. No harm in it. People who give out about that sort of stuff must have nothing but misery in their lives.
The Kerbstones is another story entirely though....
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 07:39:59 PM
I was already sure in my own mind that they’d make but now afaic  they’ll 100% be starting https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2021/09/06/mayo-duo-mullin-and-mclaughlin-in-contention-to-face-tyrone/?fbclid=IwAR01fmAIiFDGi2TqPi85J3_LvSyoT_yVQ8OSVfJDM-axNsjibtWz4dD74vs
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 06, 2021, 09:14:52 PM
See the Home and Away cast are behind the green and red of Mayo anyway.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 10:06:27 PM
Rewatching the 2013 semi final, half an hour in. By god my memory of us not being able to kick snow off a rope wasn’t wrong at all! Best part was Freeman having a goal ruled out because the ref was pulling it back for a free. Then McLoughlin kicked the 13m, more less centre, wide!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Chimley on September 06, 2021, 10:09:32 PM
Rewatching the 2013 semi final, half an hour in. By god my memory of us not being able to kick snow off a rope wasn’t wrong at all! Best part was Freeman having a goal ruled out because the ref was pulling it back for a free. Then McLoughlin kicked the 13m, more less centre, wide!

Wait until you get to the penalty for Mayo. We never should have got that. It was outside the box for sure.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 10:13:27 PM
It seems to be Chris Barrett coming up with the big scores!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 06, 2021, 10:24:15 PM
Rewatching the 2013 semi final, half an hour in. By god my memory of us not being able to kick snow off a rope wasn’t wrong at all! Best part was Freeman having a goal ruled out because the ref was pulling it back for a free. Then McLoughlin kicked the 13m, more less centre, wide!

Wait until you get to the penalty for Mayo. We never should have got that. It was outside the box for sure.

They even showed the replay on the big screen. Dermot Carlin and Joe Mcmahon were pleading with the referee to watch it again.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Tubberman on September 06, 2021, 10:24:59 PM
It seems to be Chris Barrett coming up with the big scores!

Yeah he got us going that day, but once we got into our stride we won it comfortably enough from what i remember
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 10:36:43 PM
It seems to be Chris Barrett coming up with the big scores!

Yeah he got us going that day, but once we got into our stride we won it comfortably enough from what i remember

32 mins: Tyrone 0-7 Mayo 0-3

38 mins: Tyrone 0-7 Mayo 1-7
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 06, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
I think they’re could be a similar trend on Saturday. Poor first half from Mayo, Tyrone leave them in it at half time, Mayo kick on second half
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on September 06, 2021, 10:39:08 PM
CAnt see how McLaughlin can start - double broken jaw?? Sure he wouldnt even have been eating. Its in the Telegraph so that probably means neither of them will ever play for Mayo again.
Having them would be huge, even if it was to come in at some stage. You cant keep losing quality players and it not have a big impact, without those 2 and COC Mayo are down 20% of a starting team with the additional impact of 3 impact subs moving into the starting team and 3 lesser lads moving onto the bench.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Chimley on September 06, 2021, 10:42:26 PM
CAnt see how McLaughlin can start - double broken jaw?? Sure he wouldnt even have been eating. Its in the Telegraph so that probably means neither of them will ever play for Mayo again.
Having them would be huge, even if it was to come in at some stage. You cant keep losing quality players and it not have a big impact, without those 2 and COC Mayo are down 20% of a starting team with the additional impact of 3 impact subs moving into the starting team and 3 lesser lads moving onto the bench.

The only thing that makes sense there is if he wasn't as badly injured as reported. Horan said that he was back at training on the bike on the Tuesday so that seems to indicate that it wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2021, 11:05:34 PM
CAnt see how McLaughlin can start - double broken jaw?? Sure he wouldnt even have been eating. Its in the Telegraph so that probably means neither of them will ever play for Mayo again.
Having them would be huge, even if it was to come in at some stage. You cant keep losing quality players and it not have a big impact, without those 2 and COC Mayo are down 20% of a starting team with the additional impact of 3 impact subs moving into the starting team and 3 lesser lads moving onto the bench.

The only thing that makes sense there is if he wasn't as badly injured as reported. Horan said that he was back at training on the bike on the Tuesday so that seems to indicate that it wasn't too bad.

Seems to be the case alright. The telegraph loves their leaks but they are rarely wrong with such leaks.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 07, 2021, 07:53:14 AM



David Brady has been hard to take seriously after he said Armagh would challenge Tyrone in 2017, but this should be a good night.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 07, 2021, 08:00:41 AM



David Brady has been hard to take seriously after he said Armagh would challenge Tyrone in 2017, but this should be a good night.

Can't be having that Colm fella. The amount of crap he but up about tyrone and the whole covid thing I am surprised he wanted to come up to tyrone
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Redhand Santa on September 07, 2021, 08:24:43 AM
I don't think I've ever felt a sense of confidence coming from Mayo going into a final like this one. It's probably the first time they've been favourites going into a final (Tyrone are always underdogs in finals) and they're playing a county that they generally always beat. It's set up perfectly and you sense for the first time that Mayo are thinking of home coming celebrations as opposed to the fear of another loss. Many have admitted being delighted to see Kerry losing.

But having said all that I do feel Tyrone have a great chance. We've serious athletic ability to match Mayo around the middle sector and have quality forwards to do damage including from the bench. I'd love to see Mayo win an All Ireland but not this year. None of this Tyrone team have experienced All Ireland success either and deserve it every bit as much.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on September 07, 2021, 08:39:48 AM
As the telegraph states. Mayo feel this is their best chance of an all Ireland in 70 years.. Do you lads really feel that there were no significant chances in the last 70 years, or is it just because its Tyrone you are playing and in fairness you have our number. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 07, 2021, 10:16:23 AM
I was fully confident in 2017 to be honest. After they beat Kerry in the semi that year, I honestly couldn't see either Tyrone or Dublin beating them. This year, while it's a novel pairing has me thinking "ffs, we take out the Dubs and may lose another final".

Hard to allow myself to dream after all the disappointments in previous years.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on September 07, 2021, 10:33:32 AM
If its the Connaught Telegraph your talking about then paper never refused ink is all I'll say. If its the UK Telegraph then enough said.
Anyone who thinks this is a "great chance" doesn't know what they are talking about, Mayo are slight favourites with the bookies because thats where the money is going, but only slightly so.
Looking back at the respective semis, Mayo should never have won it, Tyrone had more of a structure and more of a plan. Mayo just ended up in a situation where they landed on the right side of the scoreboard for once.
Tyrone are more experienced, Mayo are half young bucks, potentially missing young player of the year and the highest scoring forward in the history of the GAA.
Tyrone have people in the setup who know how to/what its like to win senior all irelands recently, our collective experience is all about losing them.
I really dont see the case for making Mayo favorites.
Regarding the 70 year comment, the all ireland was won twice in 1996, should have been won again in 1997 but no-one thought to mark Maurice Fitz and at least once between 2012 and 2017. This is not the best chance by any means, being a point up and a man up, with 6 minutes to go in normal time and just after being awarded a scoreable free to go 2 up and waste some more time before someone decided to get themselves sent off was probably another one of the better chances over the past 70 years than this years final.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Halfquarter on September 07, 2021, 10:56:02 AM
I was fully confident in 2017 to be honest. After they beat Kerry in the semi that year, I honestly couldn't see either Tyrone or Dublin beating them. This year, while it's a novel pairing has me thinking "ffs, we take out the Dubs and may lose another final".

Hard to allow myself to dream after all the disappointments in previous years.

That was the big fear before the Semi-Final, we take out the Dubs and then get beaten in the Final, admittedly most people thought Kerry would be in the Final.
It would be a sickener to be beaten by Kerry, as over the years of Dublin dominance they never laid a glove on Dublin and left  all the heavy lifting to Mayo.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on September 07, 2021, 11:18:15 AM
I was fully confident in 2017 to be honest. After they beat Kerry in the semi that year, I honestly couldn't see either Tyrone or Dublin beating them. This year, while it's a novel pairing has me thinking "ffs, we take out the Dubs and may lose another final".

Hard to allow myself to dream after all the disappointments in previous years.

That was the big fear before the Semi-Final, we take out the Dubs and then get beaten in the Final, admittedly most people thought Kerry would be in the Final.
It would be a sickener to be beaten by Kerry, as over the years of Dublin dominance they never laid a glove on Dublin and left  all the heavy lifting to Mayo.
Our All Ireland final appearances over the past 20 years generally throw whatever you think before hand out of the window when the game comes anyway. I've made solid cases in my own head where we might win only to be proven spectacularly wrong (2006 being the worst!) and gone to Croker presuming we were going to get trimmed only to nearly win it (2016, 2017)
We also do own goals, have the ref come down heavily in favour of the opposition, give the opposition a 1 goal head start and other mad things as well so who knows what madness next Saturday will bring. Feck all point analysing.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 07, 2021, 11:48:07 AM
https://punditarena.com/gaa/eoin-harte/joe-brolly-rte-coverage-mayo-tyrone/
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 07, 2021, 11:49:29 AM
If its the Connaught Telegraph your talking about then paper never refused ink is all I'll say. If its the UK Telegraph then enough said.
Anyone who thinks this is a "great chance" doesn't know what they are talking about, Mayo are slight favourites with the bookies because thats where the money is going, but only slightly so.
Looking back at the respective semis, Mayo should never have won it, Tyrone had more of a structure and more of a plan. Mayo just ended up in a situation where they landed on the right side of the scoreboard for once.
Tyrone are more experienced, Mayo are half young bucks, potentially missing young player of the year and the highest scoring forward in the history of the GAA.
Tyrone have people in the setup who know how to/what its like to win senior all irelands recently, our collective experience is all about losing them.
I really dont see the case for making Mayo favorites.
Regarding the 70 year comment, the all ireland was won twice in 1996, should have been won again in 1997 but no-one thought to mark Maurice Fitz and at least once between 2012 and 2017. This is not the best chance by any means, being a point up and a man up, with 6 minutes to go in normal time and just after being awarded a scoreable free to go 2 up and waste some more time before someone decided to get themselves sent off was probably another one of the better chances over the past 70 years than this years final.

Love the final paragraph. Nail on the head
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2021, 12:02:08 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 07, 2021, 12:15:45 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 07, 2021, 12:35:50 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland...

Indeed, and the only AI winner about the place will be in our dressing room though!  ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rosnarun on September 07, 2021, 12:38:44 PM
Mayo may have a young team but they play like they were never told how much it sucks to lose and yet  have the experience of playing in a (slightly Odd) all Ireland
which i think is a great mixture .
now is the time to win it as they may never play in another Final . imagine telling Wexford after their 4 in a row that they'd never play another final again.  you just never can Tell
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2021, 12:51:29 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland...

Indeed, and the only AI winner about the place will be in our dressing room though!  ;)

I don’t think that matters at all... when the nerves are going in the last ten or fifteen he can’t kick it over the bar or slow the game down at critical moments etc. Both teams IMO were nervy in the semis and should have won by more. Probably more Tyrone than Mayo in that regard tbh.

Probably right rh88.

The last ten or fifteen minutes of this, unless it’s a hammering session one way or the other which very few think it will be, are going to be nervy.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on September 07, 2021, 01:38:36 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland...

Indeed, and the only AI winner about the place will be in our dressing room though!  ;)

I don’t think that matters at all... when the nerves are going in the last ten or fifteen he can’t kick it over the bar or slow the game down at critical moments etc. Both teams IMO were nervy in the semis and should have won by more. Probably more Tyrone than Mayo in that regard tbh.

Probably right rh88.

The last ten or fifteen minutes of this, unless it’s a hammering session one way or the other which very few think it will be, are going to be nervy.
Indeed, if I'm not lucky enough to get a ticket then I'll be behind the couch if its close int he last 10 minutes. funnily enough I'm very bad watching on TV, much less stressed when actually there.
Sound on, annoying commentator says something that pisses me off, sound off, silence for 10 minutes, try radio commentary, match is going well, someone moves where they are sitting, roar at them for moving, opposition score a point, all their fault for moving, go outside, walk around the house, say I'll check it again in 10 minutes, dont last 2, come back in, not going well, f**k this I'm not watching it anymore, go outside again, big roar from inside, run back in, we scored a goal, mighty, I'll watch the rest of it, loose the kickout and they point, f**k it, back out again. And on the madness goes......
So someone just give me a ticket, much better for my mental health, my family and pets collective safety
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 07, 2021, 02:32:32 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland...

Indeed, and the only AI winner about the place will be in our dressing room though!  ;)

I don’t think that matters at all... when the nerves are going in the last ten or fifteen he can’t kick it over the bar or slow the game down at critical moments etc. Both teams IMO were nervy in the semis and should have won by more. Probably more Tyrone than Mayo in that regard tbh.

Probably right rh88.

The last ten or fifteen minutes of this, unless it’s a hammering session one way or the other which very few think it will be, are going to be nervy.
Indeed, if I'm not lucky enough to get a ticket then I'll be behind the couch if its close int he last 10 minutes. funnily enough I'm very bad watching on TV, much less stressed when actually there.
Sound on, annoying commentator says something that pisses me off, sound off, silence for 10 minutes, try radio commentary, match is going well, someone moves where they are sitting, roar at them for moving, opposition score a point, all their fault for moving, go outside, walk around the house, say I'll check it again in 10 minutes, dont last 2, come back in, not going well, f**k this I'm not watching it anymore, go outside again, big roar from inside, run back in, we scored a goal, mighty, I'll watch the rest of it, loose the kickout and they point, f**k it, back out again. And on the madness goes......
So someone just give me a ticket, much better for my mental health, my family and pets collective safety

You sound like my uncle, only he gets his wife to shout the scores out the window at him. :D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: APM on September 07, 2021, 03:33:26 PM
It might have already been said, but I think Tyrone have a disadvantage from the 2 week turnaround after the Kerry match.  They will have spent the first week coming down from that high. Mayo on the other hand have more time adjust after coming of the high of beating Dublin.  How much will that really mean?

As a neutral fan, I think it's great that there is only a short build up to the final.  With a 3-4 week build up, you eventually get sick looking at the same meaningless articles as the media rip the bag out of it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 07, 2021, 03:40:39 PM
It might have already been said, but I think Tyrone have a disadvantage from the 2 week turnaround after the Kerry match. ...

We had barely a week before the Kerry game, so 2 clear weeks  before the Mayo game is a veritable luxury!  :P
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Keyser soze on September 07, 2021, 03:55:19 PM
I read Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh's autobiography, he was involved in training the Kerry lads based in Dublin in the 70's and 80's and he said that for him the most important element of training in getting players ready for a match was 'freshness' which struck me as the word I would have used when looking at the Kerry Tyrone semi.

PS don't ask me to define freshness but I know exactly what he meant. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 07, 2021, 04:18:46 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: the_daddy on September 07, 2021, 04:20:47 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol
Kerry men had medals in 02 and Armagh had them in 03. No-one in the game has.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 07, 2021, 04:22:00 PM
I just caught up with the last 10 pages and I tell ye what it's been a pleasure to read, decent debate, tactical analysis, very little spouting shite about the opposition, no crying about refs. A little bit of nonsense about who's supporters are most confident, like that matters a damn.

Anyway, I have my bunting up here in South Sligo, I might as well be in the heart of Mayo here with all the green and red flags!!

I had a spin down to Galway on Sunday and I have to say the Mayo part of the N17 is well decked out so as always fair play to ye, it's great to see and well replicated up home by all accounts.



Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 07, 2021, 04:23:01 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol
Kerry men had medals in 02 and Armagh had them in 03. No-one in the game has.

 ::) ::) f**k me I'm a dope, of course, I was going by the winners not having any medals.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 07, 2021, 04:27:39 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol

That Kerry team in 2002, most had won it in 2000.

Can’t recall any All Ireland in 2003.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 07, 2021, 04:36:05 PM
Any decent podcasts or listen back episodes out for the final yet?? I was hoping we'd have a few yesterday but the ones I usually listen to seem to have all be about the ladies final day
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: APM on September 07, 2021, 04:41:57 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol

That Kerry team in 2002, most had won it in 2000.

Can’t recall any All Ireland in 2003.
2012 - Mayo - Donegal - no?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 07, 2021, 04:43:29 PM
I'm not the only one who struggles with reading  :)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 07, 2021, 04:44:25 PM
Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol

That Kerry team in 2002, most had won it in 2000.

Can’t recall any All Ireland in 2003.
2012 - Mayo - Donegal - no?

Ya 2012 would be the last time, they were asking if there was any *other* time this century
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Onthe40 on September 07, 2021, 04:53:50 PM
so many ifs or buts with this one its just so hard to call

if Tyrone are able to bring the intensity of the last day I can't see the Mayo fwd line coping
If Mayo perform like they did in the first 40 v the Dubs then I can't see them winning
However
Mayos hunger, work rate and pace in the 2nd half v Galway and Dublin will be hard to stop if they being it in the first half

Head on the chop, I'll go for a draw :)

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rosnarun on September 07, 2021, 04:54:28 PM
Any decent podcasts or listen back episodes out for the final yet?? I was hoping we'd have a few yesterday but the ones I usually listen to seem to have all be about the ladies final day
the mayo news one is usually very good unless that bore Ginnigan is on it .
but the mayo news team them selves are excellent , Mcgreal ,Finnerty Flanagan Rob murphy and lately BJP as a Presenter . with top class contributors . They are pretty fair to all even allowing for natural Bias
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 07, 2021, 05:13:32 PM
Good man I'll have a gander.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 07, 2021, 06:24:47 PM
Aidan henry of the connacht telegraph reporting Cillian is back training
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 07, 2021, 06:42:10 PM
Aidan henry of the connacht telegraph reporting Cillian is back training

If true its a huge ask and risk putting him in. When was the last time he played?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Tubberman on September 07, 2021, 06:46:27 PM
Aidan henry of the connacht telegraph reporting Cillian is back training

If true its a huge ask and risk putting him in. When was the last time he played?

Not since Clare game in the league. I cant see any way he could possibly be put on. If he does come on, we're either fcked, or we're hammering ye!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2021, 06:48:53 PM
Aidan henry of the connacht telegraph reporting Cillian is back training

If true its a huge ask and risk putting him in. When was the last time he played?

Not since Clare game in the league. I cant see any way he could possibly be put on. If he does come on, we're either fcked, or we're hammering ye!

If only a few players caught Covid and asked for an extension then another one, he’d be fit then
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 07, 2021, 06:49:24 PM
Aidan henry of the connacht telegraph reporting Cillian is back training

If true its a huge ask and risk putting him in. When was the last time he played?

Not since Clare game in the league. I cant see any way he could possibly be put on. If he does come on, we're either fcked, or we're hammering ye!

LOL that would be the 2 situations to bring him on.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WhoDat on September 07, 2021, 06:51:12 PM
Aidan henry of the connacht telegraph reporting Cillian is back training

don't believe it for a second.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 07, 2021, 07:06:48 PM
Aidan henry of the connacht telegraph reporting Cillian is back training


Reports are emerging that Cillian O'Connor is back in Mayo training.

It has fuelled speculation he could be included in the James Horan's 26-man match day squad for next Saturday's All-Ireland SFC final against Tyrone.

It would be a remarkable comeback for the all-time top scorer in the championship after he sustained an Achilles tendon injury in the final National League match against Clare last June.



Reading between the lines of what is reported he could be on the 26 while McLaughlin and Mullin will start.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 07, 2021, 07:15:14 PM
Could be one vacancy up for grabs in the 26 , depends on how getting fluid out of the knee impacts a player .
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Chimley on September 07, 2021, 07:35:54 PM
Could be one vacancy up for grabs in the 26 , depends on how getting fluid out of the knee impacts a player .

Ah don't be putting us on a downer in the week of an AI. At least it sounds like it's not a starter.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 07, 2021, 08:39:47 PM
Looking back at previous championship games between mayo and tyrone. While mayo have been sometimes unlucky in the final they got lucky in 2 previous championship games. In 2013 petey was taken out of it and not even a free given, a tackle outside the box was given as a penalty. In 2016 Lee constant off the ball fouling some how ended up with Sean getting sent off and they got a few more than generous calls in their favour.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 07, 2021, 09:07:59 PM
Looking back at previous championship games between mayo and tyrone. While mayo have been sometimes unlucky in the final they got lucky in 2 previous championship games. In 2013 petey was taken out of it and not even a free given, a tackle outside the box was given as a penalty. In 2016 Lee constant off the ball fouling some how ended up with Sean getting sent off and they got a few more than generous calls in their favour.

Yeah that means ye will win sat . No bother to ye , oh btw tom cunnife shoulder was exactly that fair and true square
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on September 07, 2021, 09:21:57 PM
Looking back at previous championship games between mayo and tyrone. While mayo have been sometimes unlucky in the final they got lucky in 2 previous championship games. In 2013 petey was taken out of it and not even a free given, a tackle outside the box was given as a penalty. In 2016 Lee constant off the ball fouling some how ended up with Sean getting sent off and they got a few more than generous calls in their favour.
Sorry not being a Dub, but TCs shoulder on Petey is in the textbook as to how to shoulder. Leeroy learned from the Ricey book of niggle and only got past chapter 2 :)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 07, 2021, 09:47:28 PM
Looking back at previous championship games between mayo and tyrone. While mayo have been sometimes unlucky in the final they got lucky in 2 previous championship games. In 2013 petey was taken out of it and not even a free given, a tackle outside the box was given as a penalty. In 2016 Lee constant off the ball fouling some how ended up with Sean getting sent off and they got a few more than generous calls in their favour.

Yeah that means ye will win sat . No bother to ye , oh btw tom cunnife shoulder was exactly that fair and true square

I'm only on the wind up. I watched the shoulder again there. Not sure about it. It was a square shoulder but Peter was going for the ball while Tom was directly going for Peter. Peter couldn't brace himself for it. Not sure what the rules are in that case. I would have thought if one player going for the ball while the other was going for the player it would have been a foul. There was no malice in however
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 07, 2021, 09:50:18 PM
First they build a victory platform, now they bring back O'Connor for a winners medal.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2021, 09:54:00 PM
Player dipping for ball and being shouldered is a foul all day long… player going for a ball and being shouldered is not, providing he’s squared on.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 07, 2021, 09:56:55 PM
Looking back at previous championship games between mayo and tyrone. While mayo have been sometimes unlucky in the final they got lucky in 2 previous championship games. In 2013 petey was taken out of it and not even a free given, a tackle outside the box was given as a penalty. In 2016 Lee constant off the ball fouling some how ended up with Sean getting sent off and they got a few more than generous calls in their favour.

Yeah that means ye will win sat . No bother to ye , oh btw tom cunnife shoulder was exactly that fair and true square

the rule doesnt say anything about that , i dont agree with the rule tbh and think it could cause serious damage to someone someday as every year goes by these top players get stronger and better conditioned , some power in them hits nowadays.

I'm only on the wind up. I watched the shoulder again there. Not sure about it. It was a square shoulder but Peter was going for the ball while Tom was directly going for Peter. Peter couldn't brace himself for it. Not sure what the rules are in that case. I would have thought if one player going for the ball while the other was going for the player it would have been a foul. There was no malice in however
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Whishtup on September 07, 2021, 10:59:06 PM
It's the angle he came in at(coming from front) , made no attempt to play the ball and Harte's body was open as he was reaching for the ball. Shoulder to shoulder does not trump dangerous play. Depending on ref could be yellow or straight red so he was a lucky boy. Nobody wants to see this type of tackle and I would not complain if a Tyrone player was sent off for this.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 07, 2021, 11:36:30 PM
It's the angle he came in at(coming from front) , made no attempt to play the ball and Harte's body was open as he was reaching for the ball. Shoulder to shoulder does not trump dangerous play. Depending on ref could be yellow or straight red so he was a lucky boy. Nobody wants to see this type of tackle and I would not complain if a Tyrone player was sent off for this.

I made and deleted a post there because I had a video of the play and explained how I thought it was a cert foul too. However I then looked at the rules and quickly deleted my post :)

My assumption was that it was a foul because Harte wasn't in possession of the ball, however all the rules say about a shoulder is....

1.9   Provided that he has at least one foot on the ground, a player may make a shoulder to shoulder charge on an opponent- 

(a) who is in possession of the ball,

or

(b) who is playing the ball,

or 

(c)  when both players are moving in the direction of the ball to play it


Harte didn't have the ball. He never had the ball, he touched it but wasn't in possession and the contact was after Harte had played it so situation (a) didn't exist. Situation (b) is questionable and could be argued either way, Harte attempted to play the ball, it slipped through his fingers and was hit moments later. I'd say under that stipulation it was a fair hit. However it was certainly a fair hit under stipulation (c) as both players were still moving towards the ball.

The only remaining questions are;

1) was it shoulder to shoulder and it clearly was.
2) Was TC's foot on the ground? It was.

The challenge is 45 seconds into this vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV0t36dyEBk&t=49s

Now whether the GAA should allow such a challenge is a different proposition but I think they should. It's a manly game and if you can't hit a man fair and square on the shoulder and buckle him then what are we at??
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 07, 2021, 11:49:14 PM
Is CoC being parachuted into the team unfit to make an appearance in the last few minutes if Mayo are up just so he can get his hands on a medal? No way he could be back from an achilles Tendon in 2 and a half months.

I'm only guessing but that would be incredible from the management to use a bench space like that. No player in the country probably deserves a medal more but when you have only 11 subs and a really good chance of using a lot of them if it goes to extra time.

Surely this has to be nonsense.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 08, 2021, 12:27:17 AM
Is CoC being parachuted into the team unfit to make an appearance in the last few minutes if Mayo are up just so he can get his hands on a medal? No way he could be back from an achilles Tendon in 2 and a half months.

I'm only guessing but that would be incredible from the management to use a bench space like that. No player in the country probably deserves a medal more but when you have only 11 subs and a really good chance of using a lot of them if it goes to extra time.

Surely this has to be nonsense.

Can't see him being on the bench at all. He was still in a cast and crutches up to a few weeks ago. Even if he's back walking now, there would be several months of physio and rehab before you could go back playing.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 08, 2021, 01:15:52 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnyztPqbRc&feature=youtu.be

Cant wait to see the videos next week
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 08, 2021, 06:18:39 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-mayo-s-track-record-suggests-they-can-take-the-final-step-1.4667662?mode=ampAll things considered, I’m siding with Mayo. They have pulled themselves out of disastrous situations against both Galway and Dublin. They have showed that when the intensity gets up to the highest level, that’s where they thrive.

Tyrone knew they could disrupt Kerry by turning up the heat. But the higher they turn the heat on Mayo, the more Mayo like it.

When it comes right down to it, Mayo have beaten better teams than Tyrone have over the past few seasons. They have everything in their track record except the last thing, the most important thing. Now’s their time to go and get it.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 08, 2021, 06:50:38 AM
Is CoC being parachuted into the team unfit to make an appearance in the last few minutes if Mayo are up just so he can get his hands on a medal? No way he could be back from an achilles Tendon in 2 and a half months.

I'm only guessing but that would be incredible from the management to use a bench space like that. No player in the country probably deserves a medal more but when you have only 11 subs and a really good chance of using a lot of them if it goes to extra time.

Surely this has to be nonsense.

Don't think there is extra time, goes straight to a replay.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: naka on September 08, 2021, 07:47:14 AM
I thought it was extra time ?
If a replay when is it fixed for ?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 08:46:18 AM
I thought it was extra time ?
If a replay when is it fixed for ?

I'd imagine the following week, and if so, anyone who had a ticket for the first game should not get a ticket for the second game, seems fair considering the amount of true supporters that have missed out..... see how that plays out  ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 08, 2021, 09:28:38 AM
I thought it was extra time ?
If a replay when is it fixed for ?

According to the GAA fixtures website, there will be extra  time if necessary
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 08, 2021, 09:33:18 AM
Extra time if needed this weekend. If it's still level replay on Sunday 19th
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tiempo on September 08, 2021, 09:34:22 AM
Is CoC being parachuted into the team unfit to make an appearance in the last few minutes if Mayo are up just so he can get his hands on a medal? No way he could be back from an achilles Tendon in 2 and a half months.

I'm only guessing but that would be incredible from the management to use a bench space like that. No player in the country probably deserves a medal more but when you have only 11 subs and a really good chance of using a lot of them if it goes to extra time.

Surely this has to be nonsense.

Ahh would ye put a sock in it, Pete Harte is twice the player

The man couldn't even kick a ball through a tyre from point blank range

Some Mayonnaise lads expect a medal just for getting out of bed in the morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtcy-WgTWbI
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 08, 2021, 10:36:12 AM
Is CoC being parachuted into the team unfit to make an appearance in the last few minutes if Mayo are up just so he can get his hands on a medal? No way he could be back from an achilles Tendon in 2 and a half months.

I'm only guessing but that would be incredible from the management to use a bench space like that. No player in the country probably deserves a medal more but when you have only 11 subs and a really good chance of using a lot of them if it goes to extra time.

Surely this has to be nonsense.
Oh, no it isn’t! It’s just James H playing his version of silly buggers, as Jack Charlton might put it. He wants to keep everybody guessing, including Dooher and Lohan, until the last possible moment.
That way, Tyrone’s pre-matchups can’t be finalised until Horan finally shows his hand.I’m guessing that won’t happen until the teams line up behind the Artane Boys Band!
 From what I’m hearing from down home, Eoghan Mac is probably fit to play but won’t start.
The rumour is that his jaw break wasn’t as bad as originally feared. He didn't need to have the jaw wired, merely had plates inserted. (And no, I don't understand that either!)
Can’t  see Cillian starting or making the bench but we all will have to wait until the throw-in.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: iorras on September 08, 2021, 11:07:55 AM
Never thought I'd be saying this but please God the COC rumours are just Connaught Telegraph shite talk.
Shades of Dermot Flanagan in 97, when he had a small hospital on his leg going into the match, could barely walk in the parade, had to be taken off after about 5 minutes and then JM nearly changed every line on the team to accommodate the substitution.
Not one of JM's finest hours.
We dont need the sideshow of a player who could not possibly be fit being parachuted in. Anyone who thinks Dooher and L
Unless it was some mad theory like, well he cant run but he can kick with his good foot so have him in standing in the corner to take frees! NFL special teams :)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 08, 2021, 12:24:18 PM
If you look at Horan’s tenure with Mayo, he is given to a few things but sentimentality wouldn’t seem to be one of them.

I sincerely doubt CoC went from protective boot to high intensity training in the course of a couple of days. If he was light training over the previous few weeks, he may have just ramped it up this past week (likely against doctor’s orders) to give it a shot. And if that’s worked out he will surely be on the bench. He doesn’t have to be match fit to be a scoring threat for 10-15 mins.

But that’s a lot of ifs, and i can’t see Horan giving him the nod unless they’re all in a line.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 08, 2021, 12:29:57 PM
Anyone listening to Aiden Henry needs their head examined
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on September 08, 2021, 12:59:25 PM
Assuming there won't be any Roscommon people in their 26 and as Tyrone have no chip on the shoulder issue I'm giving a hesitant vote to Co.Mayo to win it on the 70th anniversary of their last one.
It's a 50/50 game so down to whoever performs best on the day, gets the more things right, less errors etc.
At least for the first time in 7 or 8 years it's not a foregone conclusion.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 08, 2021, 01:17:04 PM
Assuming there won't be any Roscommon people in their 26 and as Tyrone have no chip on the shoulder issue I'm giving a hesitant vote to Co.Mayo to win it on the 70th anniversary of their last one.
It's a 50/50 game so down to whoever performs best on the day, gets the more things right, less errors etc.
At least for the first time in 7 or 8 years it's not a foregone conclusion.

Not that I'd consider them rossies in any way shape or form but in 51 saen Flanagan ballagh and mick loftus born in kiltoom,  kinda puts that notion to bed in the context of your " mayo cant win with rossies involved"
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on September 08, 2021, 02:08:16 PM
Was Sean Flanagan not a blow in from Co Mayo?
Mick Loftus left Ros when he was 2 I believe.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 08, 2021, 02:20:41 PM
Was Sean Flanagan not a blow in from Co Mayo?
Mick Loftus left Ros when he was 2 I believe.

Haha yes he was from toureen originally I think , agahamore club I'm sure I read somewhere but my point still stands. Any ticket for me
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Crete Boom on September 08, 2021, 02:21:55 PM
Was Sean Flanagan not a blow in from Co Mayo?
Mick Loftus left Ros when he was 2 I believe.

Sean Flanagan was from Aghamore I believe.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: joemamas on September 08, 2021, 02:22:57 PM
Anyone listening to Aiden Henry needs their head examined

half agree, but at least it is not a cliche filled article, like half the crap you read from the more "seasoned" Dublin and Kerry journalists.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 08, 2021, 02:24:42 PM
Oh, no it isn’t! It’s just James H playing his version of silly buggers, as Jack Charlton might put it. He wants to keep everybody guessing, including Dooher and Lohgan, until the last possible moment.
....

This amuses me, as if Messrs Dooher and Logan wouldn't be wise to Horan and his grey arts!  :P ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 08, 2021, 02:36:53 PM
Oh, no it isn’t! It’s just James H playing his version of silly buggers, as Jack Charlton might put it. He wants to keep everybody guessing, including Dooher and Lohgan, until the last possible moment.
....

This amuses me, as if Messrs Dooher and Logan wouldn't be wise to Horan and his grey arts!  :P ;)

You try to hide your confidence but its telling,  your ilk are in for some rude awakening sat evening
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 08, 2021, 02:51:53 PM
Was Sean Flanagan not a blow in from Co Mayo?
Mick Loftus left Ros when he was 2 I believe.

Sean Flanagan was from Aghamore I believe.

He was

A relation of mine went to school with him
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 08, 2021, 02:59:29 PM
Oh, no it isn’t! It’s just James H playing his version of silly buggers, as Jack Charlton might put it. He wants to keep everybody guessing, including Dooher and Lohgan, until the last possible moment.
....

This amuses me, as if Messrs Dooher and Logan wouldn't be wise to Horan and his grey arts!  :P ;)

You try to hide your confidence but its telling,  your ilk are in for some rude awakening sat evening

Sickening arrogance!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 08, 2021, 03:00:59 PM
Oh, no it isn’t! It’s just James H playing his version of silly buggers, as Jack Charlton might put it. He wants to keep everybody guessing, including Dooher and Lohgan, until the last possible moment.
....

This amuses me, as if Messrs Dooher and Logan wouldn't be wise to Horan and his grey arts!  :P ;)

You try to hide your confidence but its telling,  your ilk are in for some rude awakening sat evening

Sickening arrogance!

Absolutely
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: blanketattack on September 08, 2021, 03:02:59 PM
How many all Ireland finals have Tyrone lost? For me they don’t lose winnable finals - the Dublin one wasn’t winnable and this is going back a while but the 86 one wasn’t either. Kerry and Dublin were just too good. The three they won were touch and go if they would win but when it was tight they got it done.

This is a hard one to call. I think Mayo are a bit better but I expect them to be very nervous too which will level it out a bit. I have a feeling that will swing it tyrone’s way and they will win.

6 points up in the second half and about to take a penalty isn't a winnable situation?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 03:03:56 PM
Oh, no it isn’t! It’s just James H playing his version of silly buggers, as Jack Charlton might put it. He wants to keep everybody guessing, including Dooher and Lohgan, until the last possible moment.
....

This amuses me, as if Messrs Dooher and Logan wouldn't be wise to Horan and his grey arts!  :P ;)

You try to hide your confidence but its telling,  your ilk are in for some rude awakening sat evening

Sickening arrogance!

Absolutely

Its better than the shite that normally comes from supporters!! Big your team up, makes a dam bit of difference on here who wins
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 08, 2021, 03:30:37 PM
Extra time if needed this weekend. If it's still level replay on Sunday 19th

John Prenty said the other day that this final will go straight to a replay if kevel after 70 minutes.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 08, 2021, 03:32:52 PM
Oh, no it isn’t! It’s just James H playing his version of silly buggers, as Jack Charlton might put it. He wants to keep everybody guessing, including Dooher and Lohgan, until the last possible moment.
....

This amuses me, as if Messrs Dooher and Logan wouldn't be wise to Horan and his grey arts!  :P ;)

You try to hide your confidence but its telling,  your ilk are in for some rude awakening sat evening

Sickening arrogance!

Absolutely

Its better than the shite that normally comes from supporters!! Big your team up, makes a dam bit of difference on here who wins

Exactly, all Ireland finals don’t come around every day. Might as well enjoy it! Plenty of time for complaining and cynicism after if they lose. Who knows what way it will go, but we can enjoy the build up while we’re still in it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 08, 2021, 03:55:11 PM
Is CoC being parachuted into the team unfit to make an appearance in the last few minutes if Mayo are up just so he can get his hands on a medal? No way he could be back from an achilles Tendon in 2 and a half months.

I'm only guessing but that would be incredible from the management to use a bench space like that. No player in the country probably deserves a medal more but when you have only 11 subs and a really good chance of using a lot of them if it goes to extra time.

Surely this has to be nonsense.

Ahh would ye put a sock in it, Pete Harte is twice the player

The man couldn't even kick a ball through a tyre from point blank range

Some Mayonnaise lads expect a medal just for getting out of bed in the morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtcy-WgTWbI

And again, I'm from Tyrone lol
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 08, 2021, 03:59:17 PM
Any decent podcasts or listen back episodes out for the final yet?? I was hoping we'd have a few yesterday but the ones I usually listen to seem to have all be about the ladies final day
the mayo news one is usually very good unless that bore Ginnigan is on it .
but the mayo news team them selves are excellent , Mcgreal ,Finnerty Flanagan Rob murphy and lately BJP as a Presenter . with top class contributors . They are pretty fair to all even allowing for natural Bias

I actually listened to the latest one last night there with Stephen Rochford and BJP. Decent listen even if it did come with the usual few hyperbolic statements about Tyrone play.

Funny the Mayo News Pod probably gives Tyrone more credit and actually analysed the Tyrone players individually better than most of the apparent neutral MSN pods who have pretty much only talked about how kerry lost the game since last week.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: An Watcher on September 08, 2021, 04:25:51 PM
Thinking of my thoughts before previous All-Ireland finals and where this one fits from the best chance to no chance:

2003 - knew this would be close but slightly fancied us to do it
2005 - probably our best team ever but playing an excellent Kerry team so too close to call
2021 - slight underdogs maybe weighing it 45/55 in mayo favour
2008 - not quite as bad as the two below but didn't fancy us at all
1986 - bit young but even at that age I knew we were up against it
2018 - went down in hope rather than expectation.  Not much of a chance

Basically all if the above means I only ever fancied Tyrone in one final and we've won three.  Don't fancy them this weekend either but as someone else says, it's great to be involved and hopefully I'm
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 08, 2021, 04:44:28 PM
Thinking of my thoughts before previous All-Ireland finals and where this one fits from the best chance to no chance:

2003 - knew this would be close but slightly fancied us to do it
2005 - probably our best team ever but playing an excellent Kerry team so too close to call
2021 - slight underdogs maybe weighing it 45/55 in mayo favour
2008 - not quite as bad as the two below but didn't fancy us at all
1986 - bit young but even at that age I knew we were up against it
2018 - went down in hope rather than expectation.  Not much of a chance

Basically all if the above means I only ever fancied Tyrone in one final and we've won three.  Don't fancy them this weekend either but as someone else says, it's great to be involved and hopefully I'm
And 1995? For me that Dublin team was arguably the worst team to win the All-Ireland in the last 30 years.

Right now we have Tyrone who aren't at the level of their All-Ireland winning teams of 2003, 05,08  and Mayo aren't at the level they were at in 2013 to 2017 however one will win the All-Ireland.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 08, 2021, 04:54:35 PM
Thinking of my thoughts before previous All-Ireland finals and where this one fits from the best chance to no chance:

2003 - knew this would be close but slightly fancied us to do it
2005 - probably our best team ever but playing an excellent Kerry team so too close to call
2021 - slight underdogs maybe weighing it 45/55 in mayo favour
2008 - not quite as bad as the two below but didn't fancy us at all
1986 - bit young but even at that age I knew we were up against it
2018 - went down in hope rather than expectation.  Not much of a chance

Basically all if the above means I only ever fancied Tyrone in one final and we've won three.  Don't fancy them this weekend either but as someone else says, it's great to be involved and hopefully I'm

Have you erased 1995 from your memory?

2003 - was so tight to call. Anything could have happened. But if  Stevie scores that goal, and Hughes deservedly gets the line instead of Marsden, and we would’ve had 2 in a row

2005/08 - couldn’t see Tyrone losing them.

2018 - was contented knowing Tyrone would be nowhere near winning that one.

1995 - close to call. Probably had Dublin as slight favourite

2021 - a very hard one to call, although I have a bad feeling   Tyrone will edge it.

I’m away to wash my mouth out
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 08, 2021, 05:12:18 PM
Thinking of my thoughts before previous All-Ireland finals and where this one fits from the best chance to no chance:

2003 - knew this would be close but slightly fancied us to do it
2005 - probably our best team ever but playing an excellent Kerry team so too close to call
2021 - slight underdogs maybe weighing it 45/55 in mayo favour
2008 - not quite as bad as the two below but didn't fancy us at all
1986 - bit young but even at that age I knew we were up against it
2018 - went down in hope rather than expectation.  Not much of a chance

Basically all if the above means I only ever fancied Tyrone in one final and we've won three.  Don't fancy them this weekend either but as someone else says, it's great to be involved and hopefully I'm

Have you erased 1995 from your memory?

2003 - was so tight to call. Anything could have happened. But if  Stevie scores that goal, and Hughes deservedly gets the line instead of Marsden, and we would’ve had 2 in a row

2005/08 - couldn’t see Tyrone losing them.

2018 - was contented knowing Tyrone would be nowhere near winning that one.

1995 - close to call. Probably had Dublin as slight favourite

2021 - a very hard one to call, although I have a bad feeling   Tyrone will edge it.

I’m away to wash my mouth out

And all people in tyrone are content knowing that they won't have to worry about armagh getting to a semi final never mind final for another very long time yet 😂
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 08, 2021, 05:32:22 PM
Thinking of my thoughts before previous All-Ireland finals and where this one fits from the best chance to no chance:

2003 - knew this would be close but slightly fancied us to do it
2005 - probably our best team ever but playing an excellent Kerry team so too close to call
2021 - slight underdogs maybe weighing it 45/55 in mayo favour
2008 - not quite as bad as the two below but didn't fancy us at all
1986 - bit young but even at that age I knew we were up against it
2018 - went down in hope rather than expectation.  Not much of a chance

Basically all if the above means I only ever fancied Tyrone in one final and we've won three.  Don't fancy them this weekend either but as someone else says, it's great to be involved and hopefully I'm

Have you erased 1995 from your memory?

2003 - was so tight to call. Anything could have happened. But if  Stevie scores that goal, and Hughes deservedly gets the line instead of Marsden, and we would’ve had 2 in a row

2005/08 - couldn’t see Tyrone losing them.

2018 - was contented knowing Tyrone would be nowhere near winning that one.

1995 - close to call. Probably had Dublin as slight favourite

2021 - a very hard one to call, although I have a bad feeling   Tyrone will edge it.

I’m away to wash my mouth out

And all people in tyrone are content knowing that they won't have to worry about armagh getting to a semi final never mind final for another very long time yet 😂

Whatever gets you through the day  ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: An Watcher on September 08, 2021, 05:38:59 PM
Totally forgot about 95, probably similar odds to this year tbh. 
As for 08, couldn't see Tyrone losing.  Seriously, against the 3 in a row chasing kerry!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: JoG2 on September 08, 2021, 05:39:27 PM
Any decent podcasts or listen back episodes out for the final yet?? I was hoping we'd have a few yesterday but the ones I usually listen to seem to have all be about the ladies final day
the mayo news one is usually very good unless that bore Ginnigan is on it .
but the mayo news team them selves are excellent , Mcgreal ,Finnerty Flanagan Rob murphy and lately BJP as a Presenter . with top class contributors . They are pretty fair to all even allowing for natural Bias

I actually listened to the latest one last night there with Stephen Rochford and BJP. Decent listen even if it did come with the usual few hyperbolic statements about Tyrone play.

Funny the Mayo News Pod probably gives Tyrone more credit and actually analysed the Tyrone players individually better than most of the apparent neutral MSN pods who have pretty much only talked about how kerry lost the game since last week.

Listened to OTB and The GAA Hour... If you didn't know the score you'd swear Tyrone had wiped the floor with Kerry.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 08, 2021, 06:10:43 PM
Any decent podcasts or listen back episodes out for the final yet?? I was hoping we'd have a few yesterday but the ones I usually listen to seem to have all be about the ladies final day
the mayo news one is usually very good unless that bore Ginnigan is on it .
but the mayo news team them selves are excellent , Mcgreal ,Finnerty Flanagan Rob murphy and lately BJP as a Presenter . with top class contributors . They are pretty fair to all even allowing for natural Bias

I actually listened to the latest one last night there with Stephen Rochford and BJP. Decent listen even if it did come with the usual few hyperbolic statements about Tyrone play.

Funny the Mayo News Pod probably gives Tyrone more credit and actually analysed the Tyrone players individually better than most of the apparent neutral MSN pods who have pretty much only talked about how kerry lost the game since last week.

Listened to OTB and The GAA Hour... If you didn't know the score you'd swear Tyrone had wiped the floor with Kerry.

Hugely critical of Kerry, but at least the ones in the immediate aftermath of the game barely mentioned Tyrone.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 08, 2021, 07:04:48 PM

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 08, 2021, 08:49:42 PM



Ahahaha class
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jim Bob on September 08, 2021, 09:32:32 PM
Thinking of my thoughts before previous All-Ireland finals and where this one fits from the best chance to no chance:

2003 - knew this would be close but slightly fancied us to do it
2005 - probably our best team ever but playing an excellent Kerry team so too close to call
2021 - slight underdogs maybe weighing it 45/55 in mayo favour
2008 - not quite as bad as the two below but didn't fancy us at all
1986 - bit young but even at that age I knew we were up against it
2018 - went down in hope rather than expectation.  Not much of a chance

Basically all if the above means I only ever fancied Tyrone in one final and we've won three.  Don't fancy them this weekend either but as someone else says, it's great to be involved and hopefully I'm

Have you erased 1995 from your memory?

2003 - was so tight to call. Anything could have happened. But if  Stevie scores that goal, and Hughes deservedly gets the line instead of Marsden, and we would’ve had 2 in a row

2005/08 - couldn’t see Tyrone losing them.

2018 - was contented knowing Tyrone would be nowhere near winning that one.

1995 - close to call. Probably had Dublin as slight favourite

2021 - a very hard one to call, although I have a bad feeling   Tyrone will edge it.

I’m away to wash my mouth out

And all people in tyrone are content knowing that they won't have to worry about armagh getting to a semi final never mind final for another very long time yet 😂

Whatever gets you through the day  ;)

I would love to have a repeat of those Tyrone Armagh days of the mid noughties to be honest. Those days were special. Not talking about the victories but just the general competition between the best two teams in Ireland who happened to be neighbours. Tension like I ve never experienced before or since !! It was unreal !
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 08, 2021, 09:52:24 PM
Sickening arrogance: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTjkOryoOjJ/

 :P

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 08, 2021, 10:05:26 PM
Sickening arrogance: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTjkOryoOjJ/

 :P

Is that real??
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 08, 2021, 10:09:44 PM
Sickening arrogance: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTjkOryoOjJ/

 :P

Is that real??

Looks like it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 08, 2021, 10:10:39 PM
Sickening arrogance: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTjkOryoOjJ/

 :P

Is that real??

Yep, absolutely -- on their Facebook page too 'Mocha Beans Ballina'.   :-\
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 08, 2021, 10:10:47 PM
Sickening arrogance: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTjkOryoOjJ/

 :P

Is that real??

Yes

Mind blowing how fvckin stupid they are

They even have a “replica” of Sam where supporters can get some practice in lifting Sam somewhere else in Ballina.

If I wasn’t 3000 miles away I’d smash every window in the place
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 08, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
Ah who gives a monkeys it's a bitta craic.

FFS if you listen to the podcast I just heard with Brian mcguigan you'd be saying that was pure arrogance too.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 08, 2021, 10:21:41 PM

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Crete Boom on September 08, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
Sickening arrogance: https://www.instagram.com/p/CTjkOryoOjJ/

 :P

Is that real??

Yes

Mind blowing how fvckin stupid they are

They even have a “replica” of Sam where supporters can get some practice in lifting Sam somewhere else in Ballina.

If I wasn’t 3000 miles away I’d smash every window in the place

So is Aidan O'Shea off the hook now and we can all blame Mocha Beans for the loss!! Jesus there seems to be an awful lot of people losing this final already, I'm having trouble keeping up with it all!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Chimley on September 08, 2021, 10:44:12 PM
I think the coffee will be needed more on Sunday.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 08, 2021, 10:45:36 PM
Cootehill having the craic.


 (https://ibb.co/pbRjHDL)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 08, 2021, 10:50:05 PM
Cootehill having the craic.


 (https://ibb.co/pbRjHDL)

Cootehill Cavan?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 08, 2021, 11:05:26 PM
Cootehill Cavan?
Yes. Niall Moyna on TV  tonight has predicted Mayo to win because he thinks Mayos hunger will be greater and Tyrone wouldn't be able to match the intensity they brought to the Kerry game.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 08, 2021, 11:19:02 PM
Cootehill Cavan?
Yes. Niall Moyna on TV  tonight has predicted Mayo to win because he thinks Mayos hunger will be greater and Tyrone wouldn't be able to match the intensity they brought to the Kerry game.

That line of thinking is just so stupid to me.

Team A has done something before so there's no way they can the very same thing again. Idiotic imo.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 08, 2021, 11:35:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB3j5ZQKZf4

Mugsy and Alan Brogan. Decent chat about the game.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: nrico2006 on September 09, 2021, 09:11:50 AM
Cootehill Cavan?
Yes. Niall Moyna on TV  tonight has predicted Mayo to win because he thinks Mayos hunger will be greater and Tyrone wouldn't be able to match the intensity they brought to the Kerry game.

That line of thinking is just so stupid to me.

Team A has done something before so there's no way they can the very same thing again. Idiotic imo.

Big time.  The odds would be on Tyrone actually bringing more intensity for this game.  Does Moyna not realise that there was little training done prior to the final and there were players who were recently not 100%. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 09, 2021, 09:24:42 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 09, 2021, 10:04:26 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 09, 2021, 10:07:04 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.

I agree. Kerry were literally one kick of the ball away from being hailed as “more than a match for Tyrone’s intensity”.

This thread is proof enough that most people don’t remember what they had for breakfast, let alone what happened in a match 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 09, 2021, 10:12:56 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

TBH there was little sign of Mayo’s intensity in the first half against the Dubs, even their supporters on here were done with it.  If they have a half like that against Tyrone, I don’t see a way back for them. A Dublin team that thought they had done enough switched off and allowed them back in again. Will Mayo manage a full 70 mins at that level? I don’t know. ( I suppose you could argue the 2nd half and Extra time) It will be interesting but I don’t believe there will be anything lacking in either sides intensity tbh.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 09, 2021, 10:23:53 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

You have form larryin89 in such pre-final braggadocio where Mayo's involved, however, you are equally well versed in chomping on those words in the rather inevitable aftermath.  :P
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 09, 2021, 10:25:16 AM
Over half the kerry team were lying on the ground with cramp .
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 09, 2021, 10:33:48 AM
Andy Moran lost 6 finals
If Mayo.win on Sunday that sort of Mayo experience will belong in the past.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 09, 2021, 10:36:19 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

You have form larryin89 in such pre-final braggadocio where Mayo's involved, however, you are equally well versed in chomping on those words in the rather inevitable aftermath.  :P

Not this time , we will hammer Tyrone out the gate on sat
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 09, 2021, 10:40:38 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

You have form larryin89 in such pre-final braggadocio where Mayo's involved, however, you are equally well versed in chomping on those words in the rather inevitable aftermath.  :P

Not this time , we will hammer Tyrone out the gate on sat

I can actually smell the fear of Tyrone from here!  :D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 09, 2021, 10:56:37 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

You have form larryin89 in such pre-final braggadocio where Mayo's involved, however, you are equally well versed in chomping on those words in the rather inevitable aftermath.  :P

Not this time , we will hammer Tyrone out the gate on sat

I can actually smell the fear of Tyrone from here!  :D

Is that evident through championship history one 1 point loss in five championshp meetings . No fear of Tyrone,  pure bananas talk that . What's to fear,  they've done nothing in recent times to suggest mayo should fear them , they got a victory over a badly set up kerry . I'd still fancy a mediocre kerry ( albeit exceptionally talented forwards in o shea and clifford ) to beat Tyrone.  Peter keane is just a useless manager as was proven by cork last year
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 09, 2021, 11:14:22 AM
https://www.businesspost.ie/companies/credit-offered-for-mayos-crunch-day-30a9d541?utm_campaign=article&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=web  (https://www.businesspost.ie/companies/credit-offered-for-mayos-crunch-day-30a9d541?utm_campaign=article&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=web)


Ballina credit union doing loans for celebrations.

The run of themselves, they are losing it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 09, 2021, 11:24:12 AM
Is that evident through championship history one 1 point loss in five championshp meetings . No fear of Tyrone,  pure bananas talk that . What's to fear,  they've done nothing in recent times to suggest mayo should fear them , they got a victory over a badly set up kerry . I'd still fancy a mediocre kerry ( albeit exceptionally talented forwards in o shea and clifford ) to beat Tyrone.  Peter keane is just a useless manager as was proven by cork last year

A little secret: 2008 was not in the Championship (according to some Mayo pundits), it was the last round of the Qualifiers.

History, do you really want to go there, where performances are concerned respectively in All-Ireland Finals in recent years?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 09, 2021, 11:27:55 AM
Forget O’Shea, if you lose now you can firmly point the finger of blame at Larry.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 09, 2021, 11:50:57 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

TBH there was little sign of Mayo’s intensity in the first half against the Dubs, even their supporters on here were done with it.  If they have a half like that against Tyrone, I don’t see a way back for them. A Dublin team that thought they had done enough switched off and allowed them back in again. Will Mayo manage a full 70 mins at that level? I don’t know. ( I suppose you could argue the 2nd half and Extra time) It will be interesting but I don’t believe there will be anything lacking in either sides intensity tbh.

Same was said after the Galway game, that Dublin wouldn't give them a sniff. However we all know Dublin aren't worth a shit this year now.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 09, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

TBH there was little sign of Mayo’s intensity in the first half against the Dubs, even their supporters on here were done with it.  If they have a half like that against Tyrone, I don’t see a way back for them. A Dublin team that thought they had done enough switched off and allowed them back in again. Will Mayo manage a full 70 mins at that level? I don’t know. ( I suppose you could argue the 2nd half and Extra time) It will be interesting but I don’t believe there will be anything lacking in either sides intensity tbh.

Same was said after the Galway game, that Dublin wouldn't give them a sniff. However we all know Dublin aren't worth a shit this year now.
True, but you can say the same about Tyrone Kerry. Sure we had a Kerry AI thread on here for a week before hand. Tyrone were just making up the numbers against a champion elect Kerry team. Now they are a tired Kerry team that relied on one player. You could write whatever narrative you want and get one or two things to back it up. It’ll be a toss up. Whoever is less scared of losing will win I think.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 09, 2021, 12:06:45 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

You have form larryin89 in such pre-final braggadocio where Mayo's involved, however, you are equally well versed in chomping on those words in the rather inevitable aftermath.  :P

Not this time , we will hammer Tyrone out the gate on sat

Screenshotted for future reference.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: StPatsAbu on September 09, 2021, 12:15:12 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

You have form larryin89 in such pre-final braggadocio where Mayo's involved, however, you are equally well versed in chomping on those words in the rather inevitable aftermath.  :P

Not this time , we will hammer Tyrone out the gate on sat

While all dressed in your Baywatch gear like AOS?  ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 09, 2021, 12:25:54 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.

I agree. Kerry were literally one kick of the ball away from being hailed as “more than a match for Tyrone’s intensity”.

This thread is proof enough that most people don’t remember what they had for breakfast, let alone what happened in a match 2 weeks ago.

I think this needs to be remembered. If Morgan doesn't put the ball over from 70 metres, which is what you'd expect, Kerry go to the final.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: the goal was on on September 09, 2021, 12:47:51 PM
Mayo forwards won’t trouble tyrone. Only got joy when Dublin tired and lost a few men. Tyrone defenders not gonna tire .
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: TMAC on September 09, 2021, 12:59:34 PM
Imagine how much fitter they will be having now completely got over covid!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on September 09, 2021, 01:04:39 PM
I think many people are overlooking the fact that Tyrone's preparation could not have been anything but badly impacted in the run up to the semi final yet they still managed to win. Based on both counties 2 x semi finals, I would say that Tyrone probably have the greater scope for improvement. But they will have to improve since Mayo will put them under much more pressure than Kerry managed. Both teams were far from flawless in their respective semi finals even if they each managed to record monumental victories. It's about as 50/50 as a game could be since there is no clear or reliable formlines. I wouldn't rule out a draw in this one.   
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 09, 2021, 01:06:57 PM
Midwest radio have followed the CT s Aidan henry in reporting cillian is back training and in contention for 26 ???
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: LeoMc on September 09, 2021, 01:11:35 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 01:14:42 PM
Imagine how much fitter they will be having now completely got over covid!

Any Tyrone players teaching at the minute? With all the cases going at the minute they could miss out
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 09, 2021, 01:20:35 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 09, 2021, 01:22:37 PM
Midwest radio have followed the CT s Aidan henry in reporting cillian is back training and in contention for 26 ???

I really hope he starts.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 09, 2021, 01:24:03 PM
Imagine how much fitter they will be having now completely got over covid!

Any Tyrone players teaching at the minute? With all the cases going at the minute they could miss out

Peter harte I think. Is McGeary still teaching PE in holy trinity?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: macdanger2 on September 09, 2021, 01:27:54 PM

Looking forward to this now - my first time seeing Mayo win in Croke Park was in 1989 against Tyrone (no ticket of course, myself & my brother lifted over the turnstile by our father) so I generally have good memories of playing them. Great respect for Tyrone also, they ate Kerry up in the noughties whereas we rolled over for them. It's a 50/50 game and I'm sure both teams & supporters will think they have a huge chance of winning this AI. I hope to f*ck it's us!! 

If you look back at the SFs, both teams had the rub of the green they needed to get over the line - if both semis went to a replay, I'd say we'd have a different final pairing. In the games themselves, DOC keeping the ball in and the rebound going straight to a Mayoman; on another day, that ball goes wide or goes to a Dublin player and we probably lose the game; same with the retaken 45, it could easily have worked out that Hennelly scores the 1st one and misses the 2nd one. For Tyrone, 9/10 times SOB checks his run, scores that goal and Kerry probably win; or the rebound from Canavan's (very poor) shot falls to a Kerry player instead of McShane and it's a different game. These are the small little breaks you need to get to win a tight game and I'd say whoever wins on Sunday will have a couple of these fall their way.

I think Tyrone will have a different gameplan for Mayo on Sunday compared to against Kerry; whereas Kerry had a few key individuals, we're more of a team unit (as are Tyrone IMO). I don't think they'll concede the kickouts to us like they did against Kerry although they may not go full press. I'd say the first half will be a cagey affair, both teams will be anxious not to concede goals early on, but it'll open up in the second half.

As regards match ups, I'd put Keegan on Donnelly - Donnelly moving out the field will suit us as Keegan will thrive out the field (@ 10/1 he's my tip for POTY). Mullins on McKenna. Swannie on McCurrry. I'm not sure who we'll put on McShane when he comes on (or if he starts) - I'd rate him as the best forward between the two teams so we need to keep a close watch on him.

It could come down to which goalkeeper is more accurate on the day from frees - both can be top notch or absolute sh*te. Come on ta f*ck Hennelly!!!!

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 01:43:32 PM
Yeah its the first final in a while I've been looking forward to, I hope its a ding dong battle and the weather doesn't play a part in it, plus both teams keep 15 players each on the pitch the whole game, no excuses, best team wins.

Was siding with Tyrone as they are great value (betting wise), McGeary could be a decent shout for MOM but the closer we get it's been Mayo's recent disappointments (of which there has been many) that might have the greater desire to get over the line.

Either way there won't be too much between them at the end.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 09, 2021, 01:55:59 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

Poor Larry's totally fecking delusional, and it's a sin to mock the afflicted!  :P
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyHarp on September 09, 2021, 02:19:41 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

I actually quite enjoy the simplistic logic of Larry's analysis - Mayo brilliant, Tyrone bad. Sometimes its quite refreshing to view the world through the lens of a young kid or a village idiot.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tbrick18 on September 09, 2021, 02:41:47 PM
Imagine how much fitter they will be having now completely got over covid!

Any Tyrone players teaching at the minute? With all the cases going at the minute they could miss out

Peter harte I think. Is McGeary still teaching PE in holy trinity?

Morgan is a teacher too - though he and Harte are in Primary schools which I suspect are not as risky as secondary schools for covid.
Don't know about McGeary.

I have to say it's a breath of fresh air to have a final where there is no clear favourite to win. I think the majority of the country would love to see Mayo finally get over the line. But Tyrone love that us-against-them-all factor and will be as motivated by that as Mayo will be to finally get a win.
I think it has to be said, on balance, the two best teams are in the final.

When you look at the two team, Tyrone for me seem to carry the biggest scoring threat. But, I think Mayo have a much better middle third than Tyrone which should starve the Tyrone attack of supply. I think defensively, both teams are very similar and in terms of work rate there's not much between them either.
A couple of question marks on both sides though....can Tyrone replicate the performance from the SF in the Final or was it a a one off as they were playing Kerry the overwhelming favorites. For Mayo, do they have the bottle to finally keep it together to win a final? What will Aidan O'Shea do? Will Morgan have one of his awful days or will he keep the head and be awesome?

A great bit of drama, can't wait.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 09, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

I actually quite enjoy the simplistic logic of Larry's analysis - Mayo brilliant, Tyrone bad. Sometimes its quite refreshing to view the world through the lens of a young kid or a village idiot.

What would you like me to tell ya that mcshane off the bench is going to make the difference , that mattie Donnelly is unremarkable, thatnits too close to call , its 50/50 . I dont believe any of the narrative spun about this been close , we are a far better outfit than Tyrone,  a possible hb line of oisin , paddy and eoghan if fit with Leroy pushing up from the last line as we get a foothold is unstoppable , nothing and I mean nothing is going to stop Mayo winning the all Ireland.  Who the fook are Tyrone anyway ,last time I seen them in a final they were attroslcious . Nobody mentioned Tyrone all year, now all of a sudden cause they got a sloppy victory over a disorganised disjointed poorly set up kerry they are world beaters . Mayo by 7-9 points easy
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 09, 2021, 02:54:17 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

Well now!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Redhand Santa on September 09, 2021, 02:54:25 PM
Yeah its the first final in a while I've been looking forward to, I hope its a ding dong battle and the weather doesn't play a part in it, plus both teams keep 15 players each on the pitch the whole game, no excuses, best team wins.

Was siding with Tyrone as they are great value (betting wise), McGeary could be a decent shout for MOM but the closer we get it's been Mayo's recent disappointments (of which there has been many) that might have the greater desire to get over the line.

Either way there won't be too much between them at the end.

I really cant see their being much difference in the desire. Not one of the Tyrone team has an All Ireland senior medal and most of them were involved in the defeat in 2018 (not to mention numerous semi and quarter final losses). Plus a lot of the panel have experienced losing to Mayo in 2016 or 2013 as a minor. Tyrone also aren't exactly blessed with a huge number of All Ireland wins either (it's not like a Kerry or Dublin).
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 09, 2021, 03:26:21 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

I actually quite enjoy the simplistic logic of Larry's analysis - Mayo brilliant, Tyrone bad. Sometimes its quite refreshing to view the world through the lens of a young kid or a village idiot.

What would you like me to tell ya that mcshane off the bench is going to make the difference , that mattie Donnelly is unremarkable, thatnits too close to call , its 50/50 . I dont believe any of the narrative spun about this been close , we are a far better outfit than Tyrone,  a possible hb line of oisin , paddy and eoghan if fit with Leroy pushing up from the last line as we get a foothold is unstoppable , nothing and I mean nothing is going to stop Mayo winning the all Ireland.  Who the fook are Tyrone anyway ,last time I seen them in a final they were attroslcious . Nobody mentioned Tyrone all year, now all of a sudden cause they got a sloppy victory over a disorganised disjointed poorly set up kerry they are world beaters . Mayo by 7-9 points easy

Did you get a ticket yet? Mayo NEVER do anything easy. I really can't call it, though I enjoy your optimism about it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 09, 2021, 03:51:41 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

I actually quite enjoy the simplistic logic of Larry's analysis - Mayo brilliant, Tyrone bad. Sometimes its quite refreshing to view the world through the lens of a young kid or a village idiot.

What would you like me to tell ya that mcshane off the bench is going to make the difference , that mattie Donnelly is unremarkable, thatnits too close to call , its 50/50 . I dont believe any of the narrative spun about this been close , we are a far better outfit than Tyrone,  a possible hb line of oisin , paddy and eoghan if fit with Leroy pushing up from the last line as we get a foothold is unstoppable , nothing and I mean nothing is going to stop Mayo winning the all Ireland.  Who the fook are Tyrone anyway ,last time I seen them in a final they were attroslcious . Nobody mentioned Tyrone all year, now all of a sudden cause they got a sloppy victory over a disorganised disjointed poorly set up kerry they are world beaters . Mayo by 7-9 points easy

That's awesome stuff! ;D 8)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wolfetones on September 09, 2021, 03:57:25 PM
Imagine how much fitter they will be having now completely got over covid!

Any Tyrone players teaching at the minute? With all the cases going at the minute they could miss out

Peter Harte
Niall Morgan
Kieran McGeary
Conn Kilpatrick
Niall Sludden
Conor Meyler
Liam Rafferty
Mark Bradley
Darragh McAnenly
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jim Bob on September 09, 2021, 04:20:37 PM
Ronan o neill ..schoolmaster in coalisland college
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 05:17:19 PM
Imagine how much fitter they will be having now completely got over covid!

Any Tyrone players teaching at the minute? With all the cases going at the minute they could miss out

Peter Harte
Niall Morgan
Kieran McGeary
Conn Kilpatrick
Niall Sludden
Conor Meyler
Liam Rafferty
Mark Bradley
Darragh McAnenly

According to TMAC they’re a bunch of useless Cnuts because they are teachers  ;D. Should be well fit for the match as they haven’t done a hands turn in 2 years
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyHarp on September 09, 2021, 05:46:08 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

I actually quite enjoy the simplistic logic of Larry's analysis - Mayo brilliant, Tyrone bad. Sometimes its quite refreshing to view the world through the lens of a young kid or a village idiot.

What would you like me to tell ya that mcshane off the bench is going to make the difference , that mattie Donnelly is unremarkable, thatnits too close to call , its 50/50 . I dont believe any of the narrative spun about this been close , we are a far better outfit than Tyrone,  a possible hb line of oisin , paddy and eoghan if fit with Leroy pushing up from the last line as we get a foothold is unstoppable , nothing and I mean nothing is going to stop Mayo winning the all Ireland.  Who the fook are Tyrone anyway ,last time I seen them in a final they were attroslcious . Nobody mentioned Tyrone all year, now all of a sudden cause they got a sloppy victory over a disorganised disjointed poorly set up kerry they are world beaters . Mayo by 7-9 points easy

Class 😂 Hopefully you get a ticket Larry so at least a small village in Mayo will get a bit of peace for a few hours.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on September 09, 2021, 06:44:35 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40694789.html
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 09, 2021, 07:54:23 PM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

I actually quite enjoy the simplistic logic of Larry's analysis - Mayo brilliant, Tyrone bad. Sometimes its quite refreshing to view the world through the lens of a young kid or a village idiot.

What would you like me to tell ya that mcshane off the bench is going to make the difference , that mattie Donnelly is unremarkable, thatnits too close to call , its 50/50 . I dont believe any of the narrative spun about this been close , we are a far better outfit than Tyrone,  a possible hb line of oisin , paddy and eoghan if fit with Leroy pushing up from the last line as we get a foothold is unstoppable , nothing and I mean nothing is going to stop Mayo winning the all Ireland.  Who the fook are Tyrone anyway ,last time I seen them in a final they were attroslcious . Nobody mentioned Tyrone all year, now all of a sudden cause they got a sloppy victory over a disorganised disjointed poorly set up kerry they are world beaters . Mayo by 7-9 points easy

Did you get a ticket yet? Mayo NEVER do anything easy. I really can't call it, though I enjoy your optimism about it.

No , unfortunately not . No leads either which is demoralizing at this stage . It is what it is I suppose . Going since 1984 , missed five games bar New York and London albeit seen one in London one year 90s . It's a fair attendance record since seven years old , I'd put a wager there would only be about 5k in that kind of category . I'll be honest and admit I'm finding it a tad emotional .
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 08:24:51 PM
Ffs would someone sort him out with a ticket? We ours be crap if you didn’t get to it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 09, 2021, 08:30:24 PM
How many Tyrone fans do yous think roughly will have been at every All-Ireland senior final involving Tyrone come Saturday? Would it be in the 5k category?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 09, 2021, 08:44:58 PM

Maybe it’s time to get a little bit serious here….. ;D

I hope we have a great game and that, one way or the other, we’ll have a clear cut winner.
Obviously, I’m hoping that Mayoo will prevail but neither team can afford to get cocky bases on their Given what’s been said and written, both teams beat their respective opponents off the field and they played with class, determination knocking their opponents about like skittles.
But a little bit of adverse luck here and there and both results could have been very different..
Mayo were blessed that Robbie Henelly goe the proverbial second bite of the cherry and brought the game to extra time. If we lost at that stage, we'd have only ourselves to blame. If Tyrone should go 7 points in front, Mayo can kiss goodbye to Sam for yet another year.
My one fear is that Mayo will do what Mayo are very inclined to do and that is to fade out of the game at times.
Just hope they won’t do this next Saturday!
Tyrone?
They got a rub of the green, like Mayo. Kerry stayed with them right to the very end and literally there was only a kick of the ball between them. If Stephen O’Brien didn’t act the fool, Kerry would have gotten a goal and I couldn’t see Tyrone coming back after that.
David Clifford’s cramp came  at the right time for Tyrone. If he had played to the end,  feel Mayo could very well be facing Kerry on Saturday.
In short, both teams rode their luck in their respective semis. Both sides can’t be lucky in the same game so let the best team win.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 09, 2021, 09:21:12 PM
How many Tyrone fans do yous think roughly will have been at every All-Ireland senior final involving Tyrone come Saturday? Would it be in the 5k category?

I wasn't alive in 86 but I've been to every final involving Tyrone since. Not going to this one as I really really really can't get Covid next week and it's killing me, but it's for the best.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: An Watcher on September 09, 2021, 09:26:57 PM
Same as that.  Been to them all except 86.  He would have lifted me over the barrier but I wanted to watch football on the TV!!  Don't think there would be too many that would have been at them all.  Dont think I'll make this one either
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 09, 2021, 09:28:29 PM
How many Tyrone fans do yous think roughly will have been at every All-Ireland senior final involving Tyrone come Saturday? Would it be in the 5k category?

I wasn't alive in 86 but I've been to every final involving Tyrone since. Not going to this one as I really really really can't get Covid next week and it's killing me, but it's for the best.

At.least you've seen 3 wins. I'm sure you good folk of Tyrone wouldn't begrudge us one if we do manage to do it on Saturday.  :P
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 09, 2021, 10:08:49 PM
Same as that.  Been to them all except 86.  He would have lifted me over the barrier but I wanted to watch football on the TV!!  Don't think there would be too many that would have been at them all.  Dont think I'll make this one either

Maybe a good bit less than 5k then.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 09, 2021, 10:15:31 PM

Maybe it’s time to get a little bit serious here….. ;D

I hope we have a great game and that, one way or the other, we’ll have a clear cut winner.
Obviously, I’m hoping that Mayoo will prevail but neither team can afford to get cocky bases on their Given what’s been said and written, both teams beat their respective opponents off the field and they played with class, determination knocking their opponents about like skittles.
But a little bit of adverse luck here and there and both results could have been very different..
Mayo were blessed that Robbie Henelly goe the proverbial second bite of the cherry and brought the game to extra time. If we lost at that stage, we'd have only ourselves to blame. If Tyrone should go 7 points in front, Mayo can kiss goodbye to Sam for yet another year.
My one fear is that Mayo will do what Mayo are very inclined to do and that is to fade out of the game at times.
Just hope they won’t do this next Saturday!
Tyrone?
They got a rub of the green, like Mayo. Kerry stayed with them right to the very end and literally there was only a kick of the ball between them. If Stephen O’Brien didn’t act the fool, Kerry would have gotten a goal and I couldn’t see Tyrone coming back after that.
David Clifford’s cramp came  at the right time for Tyrone. If he had played to the end,  feel Mayo could very well be facing Kerry on Saturday.
In short, both teams rode their luck in their respective semis. Both sides can’t be lucky in the same game so let the best team win.

I keep seeing this being posted and mentioned by pundits and it's a really strange one given our actual history of holding on to leads against good sides.

2021 AISF Vs Kerry - 5 points up and scraped over the line by 1
2020 Ulster Vs Donegal - 4 points up at first water break and lost by 2
2019 AISF Vs Kerry - 4 points up at half time and lost by 3
2018 AIF Vs Dublin - 4 points up at the start and lost by 6


That's the last 3 times we've been put out of the championship prior to this year. We've had 4/5 point leads in all those games and blew them. Tyrone do not defend leads well against top teams regardless of the narrative. We've gone back into a shell of defending deep, we'll get black and red cards and give away a heap of frees. Hopefully those lessons will finally be learnt.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 09, 2021, 10:16:17 PM

Will Morgan have one of his awful days or will he keep the head and be awesome?


I'm puzzled over why Tyrone people are so hard on Niall Morgan. Can you give us some examples of these awful days you mention? I don't remember him having any particular disasters. If anything, I'd have thought of him as one of the elite inter-county goalkeepers currently playing. Am I nuts, or what? What am I missing?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 09, 2021, 10:16:42 PM
Maybe the key is to get a 5 point lead and not 4 points lol.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 09, 2021, 10:18:44 PM

Will Morgan have one of his awful days or will he keep the head and be awesome?


I'm puzzled over why Tyrone people are so hard on Niall Morgan. Can you give us some examples of these awful days you mention? I don't remember him having any particular disasters. If anything, I'd have thought of him as one of the elite inter-county goalkeepers currently playing. Am I nuts, or what? What am I missing?

Vital free missing is the only real issue with him. He can be erratic with kickouts but I think he mostly puts them in a good area. Games against Kerry, Mayo and Donegal have all been lost in recent years when he's had a bad day from the 45 yard mark off the ground.

That being said I wouldn't want anyone else in his place and he is an elite keeper.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 09, 2021, 10:46:49 PM
The one thing that worries me is our scoring.

On the 69th minute, we were on 1-10. That's fairly low. Kerry had 0-15. Had that Canavan shot not fallen to McShane, we were looking at a very disappointing return. Almost choking level.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: An Watcher on September 09, 2021, 11:16:43 PM
I'm back n forward on this but one thing I'm clinging to is that mayo do not have a forward in Clifford's class.  Cillian O'connor being out injured is a massive loss.  The other kerry forwards hardly got a sn8ff and hopefully it'll be the same on Saturday
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: MayoBuck on September 09, 2021, 11:37:25 PM
One of the local papers had the 5 previous championship results between Mayo and Tyrone. One thing that stood out is Tyrone have never scored more than 13 points in those games. They got that in the 2008 win and the loss in 2013.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tonto1888 on September 10, 2021, 06:02:21 AM
I can’t see a thing other than a Tyrone win.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: An Watcher on September 10, 2021, 06:23:22 AM
I was at that 2008 win and if memory serves me correctly, right at the end Ricey lay on the ball to stop mayo getting it.  Then dooher lay on ricey to make it even more difficult.  It was a battle that day before then went on to blow dublin out of the water.  Also think a young Tom parsons was outstanding that day.  God I'm getting old!!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: lenny on September 10, 2021, 06:57:43 AM
I can’t see a thing other than a Tyrone win.

Scoreline prediction - Tyrone 2.13  Mayo 0.14
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 10, 2021, 08:47:51 AM
Where do Mayo cross the Shannon on the way home? Galway stopped the bus in 1998 didn't they to symbolically carry Sam across the Shannon near Athlone.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 10, 2021, 08:53:47 AM
Where do Mayo cross the Shannon on the way home? Galway stopped the bus in 1998 didn't they to symbolically carry Sam across the Shannon near Athlone.
Tarmonbarry I think. Here's hoping they'll have a reason to get off the bus and walk across this weekend.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 10, 2021, 08:56:20 AM
Where do Mayo cross the Shannon on the way home? Galway stopped the bus in 1998 didn't they to symbolically carry Sam across the Shannon near Athlone.
Tarmonbarry I think. Here's hoping they'll have a reason to get off the bus and walk across this weekend.

That's correct
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Tubberman on September 10, 2021, 09:10:01 AM
Where do Mayo cross the Shannon on the way home? Galway stopped the bus in 1998 didn't they to symbolically carry Sam across the Shannon near Athlone.

Sam won't be leaving croker so if we win we won't have the chance to carry him across the Shannon.
Tarmonbarry would be the crossing point if they went N5, but they went by train last year
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: nrico2006 on September 10, 2021, 09:29:37 AM
The one thing that worries me is our scoring.

On the 69th minute, we were on 1-10. That's fairly low. Kerry had 0-15. Had that Canavan shot not fallen to McShane, we were looking at a very disappointing return. Almost choking level.

I have the same concern.  I mentioned here a few weeks ago that we were lucky enough to get 3 goals and that we usually don't score any.  In the Kerry game our points return was poor, especially considering the extra period of play.  Its very likely that tyrone won't score any goals this weekend therefore the points return will need to be high.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: skeog on September 10, 2021, 09:38:37 AM
Tyrones secret weapon is Michael Moynagh who according to Fergal can come up with a substitution which can be okay.With the kitman being around 40 yrs why would he not know.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 10, 2021, 09:44:36 AM
The one thing that worries me is our scoring.

On the 69th minute, we were on 1-10. That's fairly low. Kerry had 0-15. Had that Canavan shot not fallen to McShane, we were looking at a very disappointing return. Almost choking level.

I have the same concern.  I mentioned here a few weeks ago that we were lucky enough to get 3 goals and that we usually don't score any.  In the Kerry game our points return was poor, especially considering the extra period of play.  Its very likely that tyrone won't score any goals this weekend therefore the points return will need to be high.

If McShane starts I would expect to see a better return. We have to remember he is prob our key (I’m loathed to use marquee) forward (jury still seems to be out on McCurry on the big days) and only now looks like an option  from the start. If him and McCurry start then it’s a headache for Mayo as both with need extra attention that may free up space for others.

When are the dummy teams going to be announced so we can plug on with the next bit of over analysis?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: CK_Redhand on September 10, 2021, 10:03:00 AM
I don't expect any curve balls in team selection. Biggest questions are will O'Shea and mcShane start. I think both will.

McCurry is likely to get bottled up again but is crucial for frees and maybe a mark or point or two from play. His decision making has improved this year. Tyrone midfield has been quietly going about their business I think one of them will have a great game. I'll call Kilpatrick for a goal.

For mayo I'm worried about conroy who is overdue a goal. Ruane is hard to stop and O'Shea has a point to prove.  I'll go for a draw 1-13 each. Tyrone by a point after extra time.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 10, 2021, 10:07:30 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/tyrone-and-proud-nobody-wants-us-to-win-but-that-s-just-fine-1.4668673?mode=amp&s=08 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/tyrone-and-proud-nobody-wants-us-to-win-but-that-s-just-fine-1.4668673?mode=amp&s=08)

They hate us, they hate us, they us

But that's the way we like it, we like it, we like it

Oh whoa whoa whoaaaa
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Scarlet on September 10, 2021, 10:09:51 AM
It's nailed on!!

https://www.rte.ie/learn/2020/1221/1185842-old-moores-almanac/
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Louther on September 10, 2021, 10:15:07 AM
It’s a very hard game to call. I think cause it’s Mayo, that factor is having a bearing on that. Does anyone trust them to see it out? They’ve lost games that they’ve had won on this stage.

Both teams will be physically a match for each other. I think Tyrone scoring power isn’t great but they have impact players from bench to rectify this. Mayo themselves aren’t noted for shooting the lights out.

It’s interesting that Tyrone have been solid in starting their two Croke Park games, strong first halves and then somewhat holding on by end of the game - Monaghan and Kerry. They’ve let leads go.

Mayo have been the opposite. Relying on strong second halves to rescue the Dublin game and win the Galway game. If Mayo get a good start and lead into the second half will Tyrone have to come out more and chase the game? Could be massive factor.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 10, 2021, 10:20:29 AM
I think both teams will have their purple patch. Where they blast off 4-5 points or a goal and points in a 10 min period. It’ll be how the other team react to that, will heads drop a bit or will it light the fires for a fight back.
I’m going for Tyrone half time, draw full time. And plenty of swings and roundabouts in between. Either way I don’t think either team will have balls to do a Dublin and calmly pass the ball around the defence and midfield if they are holding a bit of a lead. Which is a good thing from the spectators POV.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 10, 2021, 10:29:04 AM
Extra time but no penalties, is that right?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 10, 2021, 10:35:27 AM
History is written by the victors

Both Dublin and Kerry had chances to kill their games but didn’t take them.  Mayo and Tyrone could just as easily be watching Saturdays game from the high stool.

That being said, it’s almost impossible to call this one. Will the day be wet or dry? Will the referee get the big calls right? Will there be Black cards? How will the free takers perform under pressure?

Here’s hoping for a great sporting game and may the best team win
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Geoff Tipps on September 10, 2021, 10:40:29 AM
Extra time but no penalties, is that right?

Correct. Replay on the 19th.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: armaghniac on September 10, 2021, 10:43:57 AM

That being said, it’s almost impossible to call this one. Will the day be wet or dry? Will the referee get the big calls right? Will there be Black cards? How will the free takers perform under pressure?

I think we do know that it will be dry.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Armagh18 on September 10, 2021, 10:52:08 AM

Looking forward to this now - my first time seeing Mayo win in Croke Park was in 1989 against Tyrone (no ticket of course, myself & my brother lifted over the turnstile by our father) so I generally have good memories of playing them. Great respect for Tyrone also, they ate Kerry up in the noughties whereas we rolled over for them. It's a 50/50 game and I'm sure both teams & supporters will think they have a huge chance of winning this AI. I hope to f*ck it's us!! 

If you look back at the SFs, both teams had the rub of the green they needed to get over the line - if both semis went to a replay, I'd say we'd have a different final pairing. In the games themselves, DOC keeping the ball in and the rebound going straight to a Mayoman; on another day, that ball goes wide or goes to a Dublin player and we probably lose the game; same with the retaken 45, it could easily have worked out that Hennelly scores the 1st one and misses the 2nd one. For Tyrone, 9/10 times SOB checks his run, scores that goal and Kerry probably win; or the rebound from Canavan's (very poor) shot falls to a Kerry player instead of McShane and it's a different game. These are the small little breaks you need to get to win a tight game and I'd say whoever wins on Sunday will have a couple of these fall their way.

I think Tyrone will have a different gameplan for Mayo on Sunday compared to against Kerry; whereas Kerry had a few key individuals, we're more of a team unit (as are Tyrone IMO). I don't think they'll concede the kickouts to us like they did against Kerry although they may not go full press. I'd say the first half will be a cagey affair, both teams will be anxious not to concede goals early on, but it'll open up in the second half.

As regards match ups, I'd put Keegan on Donnelly - Donnelly moving out the field will suit us as Keegan will thrive out the field (@ 10/1 he's my tip for POTY). Mullins on McKenna. Swannie on McCurrry. I'm not sure who we'll put on McShane when he comes on (or if he starts) - I'd rate him as the best forward between the two teams so we need to keep a close watch on him.

It could come down to which goalkeeper is more accurate on the day from frees - both can be top notch or absolute sh*te. Come on ta f*ck Hennelly!!!!
Good post and best of luck (boke) to both teams. I’d say O’Hora and Mullins between them will pick up McShane and McKenna.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 10, 2021, 10:59:27 AM
History is written by the victors

Both Dublin and Kerry had chances to kill their games but didn’t take them.  Mayo and Tyrone could just as easily be watching Saturdays game from the high stool.

That being said, it’s almost impossible to call this one. Will the day be wet or dry? Will the referee get the big calls right? Will there be Black cards? How will the free takers perform under pressure?

Here’s hoping for a great sporting game and may the best team win

Of course he won’t. It’s Joe McQuillan.

He’ll be sure to make  a balls of the match. That’s  one thing  you can be sure of
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: JoG2 on September 10, 2021, 11:02:21 AM
Extra time but no penalties, is that right?

Yes.. Reply if needed the weekend after
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rrhf on September 10, 2021, 11:11:29 AM
Hold the trains, et.. I think that is where it is going. A pure 50/50 game and a big call / moment could make the difference   To the sound, solid long suffering Mayo lads who are on here, we wish you all the best, please don't hate us, but as a wise man once said.... it's time to take Sam to Tyrone...
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cobra on September 10, 2021, 11:27:45 AM
Tyrone by 4

We simply won't lose.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Crete Boom on September 10, 2021, 11:42:53 AM
Hold the trains, et.. I think that is where it is going. A pure 50/50 game and a big call / moment could make the difference   To the sound, solid long suffering Mayo lads who are on here, we wish you all the best, please don't hate us, but as a wise man once said.... it's time to take Sam to Tyrone...

While I will be broken again if it is another tragic loss for us tomorrow I can never be mad at Tyrone for the way the make Patteen Spillane face even more red when ever you play them in a big match in Croker!! ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on September 10, 2021, 12:21:42 PM
I can't remember a match being analysed to death as much as this one. Podcasts have been made analysing the match which have lasted longer than the actual match will itself. Pundits trying to second guess tactics, match ups, team selections etc as if it is some sort of exact science. I think we must be getting very near the point where we are reaching the peak of GAA over analysis by the media. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 10, 2021, 12:24:37 PM
I can't remember a match being analysed to death as much as this one. Podcasts have been made analysing the match which have lasted longer than the actual match will itself. Pundits trying to second guess tactics, match ups, team selections etc as if it is some sort of exact science. I think we must be getting very near the point where we are reaching the peak of GAA over analysis by the media.

Exactly, all it takes is for a key player to go off injured early on or even worse sent off and it changes everything, and you cannot predict something like that.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 10, 2021, 12:25:43 PM
I can't remember a match being analysed to death as much as this one. Podcasts have been made analysing the match which have lasted longer than the actual match will itself. Pundits trying to second guess tactics, match ups, team selections etc as if it is some sort of exact science. I think we must be getting very near the point where we are reaching the peak of GAA over analysis by the media.

The conundrum over whether to start mcshane or not has taken over everything I've read.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: mouview on September 10, 2021, 12:41:54 PM
I can't remember a match being analysed to death as much as this one. Podcasts have been made analysing the match which have lasted longer than the actual match will itself. Pundits trying to second guess tactics, match ups, team selections etc as if it is some sort of exact science. I think we must be getting very near the point where we are reaching the peak of GAA over analysis by the media.

Exactly, all it takes is for a key player to go off injured early on or even worse sent off and it changes everything, and you cannot predict something like that.

Or a couple of OGs!

The one thing that makes me fear for Mayo is that I can't really see them losing! Both teams struggled / had to work so hard for scores to an extent in their semi-finals, but Mayo's opponents then were more proven, with less subsequent weaknesses than Kerry. Tyrone showed great stubbornness and work rate to overcome Kerry but still had to rely on the 3 goals, 2 of which were as a result of poor defending, and had the luck to see Kerry score none of their own. As poor as Galway are, I'd fancy our chances reasonably enough were we in the final tomorrow, and Mayo are much superior to us. I think they'll be stronger throughout the field and better in midfield in particular, and find scores that much easier to come by.  Mayo by 5 at least.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Armagh18 on September 10, 2021, 12:51:11 PM
The one thing that worries me is our scoring.

On the 69th minute, we were on 1-10. That's fairly low. Kerry had 0-15. Had that Canavan shot not fallen to McShane, we were looking at a very disappointing return. Almost choking level.
In fairness Mayos scoring wasn’t great vs the Dubs either and O’Connor is a massive loss, although I’ve a feeling we’ll see him on the bench.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 10, 2021, 12:56:32 PM
I really think we’ll win this one. I think we’ll win most kick outs and we’ll edge the turnovers, and if that happens I don’t see Tyrone creating enough chances to kick scores.

I think Mayos defence are far more comfortable on the ball and at driving the team forward. I think because of that Tyrone will be turned over in there own defense more often.

Anyway, Mayo For Sam!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cobra on September 10, 2021, 01:02:41 PM
I want to say that if Tyrone do not win (unlikely) I couldn't be happier that it will be Mayo. They're great people and have been great friends to Tyrone over the years. So while a Tyrone loss would be awful it will be tempered ever so slightly.

You're right about the analysis. It's just relentless. Trying to predict chaos.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 10, 2021, 01:05:39 PM
The one thing that worries me is our scoring.

On the 69th minute, we were on 1-10. That's fairly low. Kerry had 0-15. Had that Canavan shot not fallen to McShane, we were looking at a very disappointing return. Almost choking level.
In fairness Mayos scoring wasn’t great vs the Dubs either and O’Connor is a massive loss, although I’ve a feeling we’ll see him on the bench.

One difference was Mayo was up against a well organised Dublin defence the best chance of beating them was in a low scoring game.

Kerry compared to the Dubs aren't as well organised defensively and points wise Tyrone only scored 11 in 70 minutes. The goals was obviously huge in bringing the game to extra time and the 3rd goal key to winning the match by a point.



Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: APM on September 10, 2021, 01:06:36 PM
I can't remember a match being analysed to death as much as this one. Podcasts have been made analysing the match which have lasted longer than the actual match will itself. Pundits trying to second guess tactics, match ups, team selections etc as if it is some sort of exact science. I think we must be getting very near the point where we are reaching the peak of GAA over analysis by the media.

Exactly, all it takes is for a key player to go off injured early on or even worse sent off and it changes everything, and you cannot predict something like that.

Or a couple of OGs!

The one thing that makes me fear for Mayo is that I can't really see them losing! Both teams struggled / had to work so hard for scores to an extent in their semi-finals, but Mayo's opponents then were more proven, with less subsequent weaknesses than Kerry. Tyrone showed great stubbornness and work rate to overcome Kerry but still had to rely on the 3 goals, 2 of which were as a result of poor defending, and had the luck to see Kerry score none of their own. As poor as Galway are, I'd fancy our chances reasonably enough were we in the final tomorrow, and Mayo are much superior to us. I think they'll be stronger throughout the field and better in midfield in particular, and find scores that much easier to come by.  Mayo by 5 at least.

You can't see Mayo losing?  If there is a way to lose an All Ireland final, Mayo will inevitably find it.

Tyrone always struggle with Mayo and Mayo always struggle with finals. It's nearly impossible to call.
I hope Mayo do it; despite their inability to get over the line, they have been for me, the most inspirational team in the last 20 years. 

I seen that a publican somewhere has characterised the game as being The Curse v The Virus. 
To me its The Romantics v The Cynics

Maybe that's a bit unfair on Tyrone and Mayo are well fit for a some cynical football when its needed,

In line with that thinking, the heart says Mayo.  But the head says Tyrone get the crucial breaks at the right time and with 5 mins left, they will be defending a 3pt lead, playing keep ball, sacrificing a black cards and taking momentum out of the game at every chance they get. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Dire Ear on September 10, 2021, 01:36:02 PM
Betting question,  if you wanted team a to win by more than 3 points;  do you write, team a,  -3?
Cheers
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rois on September 10, 2021, 01:47:11 PM
The poor presenter on Newstalk doesn't know how to deal with the Conor Grimes/Datsun Donaghey phenomenon...
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2021, 01:48:40 PM
Betting question,  if you wanted team a to win by more than 3 points;  do you write, team a,  -3?
Cheers

That be a draw, 1-13 to 1-10 would be a draw -3
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Eire90 on September 10, 2021, 01:49:16 PM
Question for those on here do you prefer a saturday final or sunday Final.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 10, 2021, 01:49:54 PM
Who are the Galway and Roscommon ones cheering for tomorrow?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 10, 2021, 01:51:12 PM
I’m glad Tyrone has the backing of  Derry and Armagh anyway. United we stand.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cobra on September 10, 2021, 01:55:40 PM
Betting question,  if you wanted team a to win by more than 3 points;  do you write, team a,  -3?
Cheers

-3 they have to win by 4 or more.
-2 they have to win by 3 or more.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Dire Ear on September 10, 2021, 01:56:31 PM
Thank you
Tyrone by 4
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 10, 2021, 02:02:38 PM
I’m glad Tyrone has the backing of  Derry and Armagh anyway. United we stand.

Absolutely!  ;D

Sure you’d do the same for us.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 10, 2021, 02:06:51 PM
I’m glad Tyrone has the backing of  Derry and Armagh anyway. United we stand.

Absolutely!  ;D

Sure you’d do the same for us.
Ya never give us the chance to hate on you anymore. Unfair really.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: greatpoint on September 10, 2021, 02:20:36 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40694789.html

Between this and what he said on OTB, Bogue's really backed up his assertion that he's become a Tyrone supporter. Pity about the historical inaccuracies though, it would have actually improved the article had he been more accurate.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: bennydorano on September 10, 2021, 02:23:50 PM
I haven’t really been following this thread and no doubt most of the points have already been made but my 2 cents:- I think Mayo will win by 4 or 5 points, i’ve a Zen like feeling of calmness that I know the result, but there is of course no basis for it.

The aftermath of the Tyrone v Kerry match was a strange one for me, Tyrone were rightly lauded for masterminding a victory against raging hot favourites but then for the next few days there was some strange takes on it like Tyrone weren’t been giving enough credit etc..I actually thought they were given way too much credit – Tyrone came out the right side of an incredibly tight game against a team generally thought to have underperformed and been extremely tactically naïve, Kerry missed an open goal, Conor McKenna’s 2nd goal was so incredibly fortuitous, I just felt Tyrone got the rub of the green and by law of averages they wont be as lucky again.

I think Mayo bring an organised chaos that will trouble Tyrone, Tyrone are solid & formulaic and will be quite confident in their ability to shackle Mayo, but they’ll have to shackle about 3 or 4 different types of Mayo by the end of the game and I think one of them will get through.  Ignore the passion, desire, drive and history - I just think Mayo are a better side with a better manager.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rois on September 10, 2021, 02:32:50 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40694789.html

Between this and what he said on OTB, Bogue's really backed up his assertion that he's become a Tyrone supporter. Pity about the historical inaccuracies though, it would have actually improved the article had he been more accurate.
So most of the historical facts came from others, just wondering which parts you found inaccurate?

Do you accuse him of being a Tyrone supporter because the article isn't criticising Tyrone?  I don't think that was the point of it. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 10, 2021, 02:42:03 PM
I just felt Tyrone got the rub of the green and by law of averages they wont be as lucky again.

I'm sure people said that about Armagh's run to the final in 2002?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: bennydorano on September 10, 2021, 02:58:29 PM
I just felt Tyrone got the rub of the green and by law of averages they wont be as lucky again.

I'm sure people said that about Armagh's run to the final in 2002?
What an excellent and totally relevant point to make.

I actually had a line in my post about this not being petty, blinkered Armagh post, but removed it, guess I should have left it in. Luck is luck, roll with it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: blanketattack on September 10, 2021, 03:13:16 PM
One thing odd about this year's final, is regardless of who wins tomorrow, at best they'll start as 3rd favourite for the All-Ireland in 2022, or if Tyrone win a tight one, probably 4th favourite.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on September 10, 2021, 03:20:22 PM
Who are the Galway and Roscommon ones cheering for tomorrow?
Speaking for myself totally neutral once the Rhus have 26 Co Mayo people on their match day squad.
I'd say Ros people 50/50 while Galways 90/10 for the neighbours.
Hope it's a good exciting game and nice not to have Dublin or Kerry in it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 10, 2021, 03:28:06 PM
The one thing that worries me is our scoring.

On the 69th minute, we were on 1-10. That's fairly low. Kerry had 0-15. Had that Canavan shot not fallen to McShane, we were looking at a very disappointing return. Almost choking level.

What of the 2003 Final, where we prevailed with 0-12, only, and hardly could be described as choking?

It all depends, I'd say, and depending on how frugal the respective defences are, it might be surprising as to what will be actually necessary.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: greatpoint on September 10, 2021, 03:34:43 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40694789.html

Between this and what he said on OTB, Bogue's really backed up his assertion that he's become a Tyrone supporter. Pity about the historical inaccuracies though, it would have actually improved the article had he been more accurate.
So most of the historical facts came from others, just wondering which parts you found inaccurate?

Do you accuse him of being a Tyrone supporter because the article isn't criticising Tyrone?  I don't think that was the point of it.

I'm not accusing him of anything, he's stated before that he considers himself a Tyrone supporter since moving there. I'm saying it's clear to see that is the case.

In terms of inaccuracies:

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Ever since the O’Neill’s lost the Nine Years War, Tyrone has been the most anti-establishment county of them all.

The O'Neills did not unilaterally lose the NYW, it was not theirs to lose.

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against the British forces brought in by the Tudor invasion.

The forces were not British, this is an anachronism.

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While battles were fought all over Ireland, the most significant ones were fought in Ulster.

The most significant and decisive battle was fought in Munster, in addition to other very significant ones fought outside of Ulster.

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“Queen Elizabeth was tortured by Tyrone. The War that O’Neill started, the Nine Year War, took more money off the Crown that any other operation outside the Spanish Armada."

Elizabeth had recently granted O'Neill his English title when the war started and he was fighting on the English side at that time. To simply say that Elizabeth was tortured by him, in addition to saying he started the war, is reductive.

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I suppose Gaelic Tyrone was the last bastion of Gaelic Ulster. It was the last to fall, but some would say it never really fell,” he notes.

Tyrone was not the last area under Gaelic rule to fall. Even long before the NYW began, the O'Neills had allowed anglicisation, through English influence, to begin.

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When the boat left Rathmullan with Hugh O’Neill and 90 of his followers, bound for mainland Europe and the exile of the Flight of the Earls, it cleared the way for the Plantation of Ulster.

Approximately 90 people, including Rory O'Donnell and his followers, sailed from Rathmullan. The idea that the O'Donnells were there as followers of Hugh O'Neill is very silly.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rois on September 10, 2021, 04:14:48 PM
 ;D Are you my father or my sister??

I haven’t a clue about the accuracy, I don’t know much about those topics, but poor old Declan’s used the words of others, not all his own.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 10, 2021, 04:15:24 PM


In terms of inaccuracies:

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Ever since the O’Neill’s lost the Nine Years War, Tyrone has been the most anti-establishment county of them all.

The O'Neills did not unilaterally lose the NYW, it was not theirs to lose.

The O'Neills were front and centre, hence why it's also known as Tyrone's Rebellion

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against the British forces brought in by the Tudor invasion.

The forces were not British, this is an anachronism.

Moot, I'd say, and it helps to contextualise in a modern setting.


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While battles were fought all over Ireland, the most significant ones were fought in Ulster.

The most significant and decisive battle was fought in Munster, in addition to other very significant ones fought outside of Ulster.


Kinsale? Fair enough, though it centrally involved O'Neill & O'Donnell.


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“Queen Elizabeth was tortured by Tyrone. The War that O’Neill started, the Nine Year War, took more money off the Crown that any other operation outside the Spanish Armada."

Elizabeth had recently granted O'Neill his English title when the war started and he was fighting on the English side at that time. To simply say that Elizabeth was tortured by him, in addition to saying he started the war, is reductive.


Not really I'd say, she was at her wits' end with O'Neill, though held on just long enough to frustrate the Gaelic efforts. And to say that O'Neill was "fighting on the English side" is pushing it a bit, imho.

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I suppose Gaelic Tyrone was the last bastion of Gaelic Ulster. It was the last to fall, but some would say it never really fell,” he notes.

Tyrone was not the last area under Gaelic rule to fall. Even long before the NYW began, the O'Neills had allowed anglicisation, through English influence, to begin.


Really, so where was?

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When the boat left Rathmullan with Hugh O’Neill and 90 of his followers, bound for mainland Europe and the exile of the Flight of the Earls, it cleared the way for the Plantation of Ulster.

Approximately 90 people, including Rory O'Donnell and his followers, sailed from Rathmullan. The idea that the O'Donnells were there as followers of Hugh O'Neill is very silly.

Perhaps a bit simplistic, yes, but O'Neill was pre-eminent.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 10, 2021, 04:37:26 PM
back to the football....

Cahair O'Kane
@CahairOKane1
Mayo team #GAA
1. Rob Hennelly
2. Padraig O'Hora
3. Lee Keegan
4. Michael Plunkett
5. Paddy Durcan
6. Stephen Coen
7. Enda Hession
8. Matthew Ruane
9. Conor Loftus
10. Diarmuid O'Connor
11. Aidan O'Shea
12. Bryan Walsh
13. Kevin McLoughlin
14. Tommy Conroy
15. Ryan O'Donoghue
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 10, 2021, 04:39:37 PM
No Oisin Mullin and Eoghan McLaughlin and as expected no Cillian O'Connor
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 10, 2021, 04:48:01 PM
back to the football....

Cahair O'Kane
@CahairOKane1
Mayo team #GAA
1. Rob Hennelly
2. Padraig O'Hora
3. Lee Keegan
4. Michael Plunkett
5. Paddy Durcan
6. Stephen Coen
7. Enda Hession
8. Matthew Ruane
9. Conor Loftus
10. Diarmuid O'Connor
11. Aidan O'Shea
12. Bryan Walsh
13. Kevin McLoughlin
14. Tommy Conroy
15. Ryan O'Donoghue

Yeah, right!  :P ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 10, 2021, 05:01:36 PM
No Oisin Mullin and Eoghan McLaughlin and as expected no Cillian O'Connor

Enda Hession, Bryan Walsh out and  Oisin Mullin and Eoghan McLaughlin in 5 minutes before throw in?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 10, 2021, 05:02:12 PM
And ours:

Our XV (https://twitter.com/TyroneGAALive/status/1436355217646362629/photo/1)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: LeoMc on September 10, 2021, 05:18:15 PM
And ours:

Our XV (https://twitter.com/TyroneGAALive/status/1436355217646362629/photo/1)
Another new number 6, new sub keeper and 2 number 26’s?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rosnarun on September 10, 2021, 05:37:12 PM
mayos is not the 15 Horan would have wanted but we just have to get on with it .
Mayo have no time or room for excuses so if the Ref scores 2-06 for tyrone and sends 3 nay players off we just have to accept it ,
and WIN
My humble prediction

 Mayo 2:14 tyrone 1:10
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: CK_Redhand on September 10, 2021, 05:39:18 PM
And ours:

Our XV (https://twitter.com/TyroneGAALive/status/1436355217646362629/photo/1)
Another new number 6, sub keeper not 16, and 2 number 26’s?
Same team that started against kerry but half backs have new numbers?

Will it be conor shields or cormac munroe?  Tyrone masterplan to stump Horan :D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 10, 2021, 05:39:45 PM
At a GAA do a few years in the Burlo in Dublin ago my Dad was mistaken by a few Mayo lads as the flying Doctor from 1951. Pádraig Carney.

He went along with it for a few mins and then had to fess up that he was a mere Longford man in case they tried to hasten his demise due to auld curse.

(Most of this is true - it was the Cuala do that Joe Brolly neary cause a riot at)

That said, and no offense to my many Tyrone pals, I hope Mayo finally do it.
Jesus will weep if they don't.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: greatpoint on September 10, 2021, 06:04:18 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán
The O'Neills were front and centre, hence why it's also known as Tyrone's Rebellion

Front and centre with the O'Donnells (as you've alluded to), along with other less powerful Gaelic leaders. My point remains, it was not simply the O'Neills' war to lose.

The term Tyrone's Rebellion has fallen out use in modern work on the topic, the Nine Years War is the preferred name. Jim O'Neill, whom Bogue quotes, explains this in his book on the conflict. O'Neill did not start the war and was largely forced into it out of circumstance.

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Moot, I'd say, and it helps to contextualise in a modern setting.

It's absolutely incorrect and confounding to understanding the history. How does incorrectly using British instead of English help further contextualise it to a modern reader?

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Kinsale? Fair enough, though it centrally involved O'Neill & O'Donnell

Kinsale, and the Battle of the Curlew Pass as well.

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Not really I'd say, she was at her wits' end with O'Neill, though held on just long enough to frustrate the Gaelic efforts. And to say that O'Neill was "fighting on the English side" is pushing it a bit, imho.

O'Neill petitioned Elizabeth to become the Lord President of Ulster and was fully supported by the English administration in the years before the war. He also fought alongside the English and defeated the Gaelic leader Hugh Maguire at the Battle of Belleek, even sustaining an injury fighting for the English cause.

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Really, so where was?

Brian Óg O'Rourke of West Breifne (Leitrim) was the last Gaelic leader to submit to English rule.

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Perhaps a bit simplistic, yes, but O'Neill was pre-eminent.

O'Neill being pre-eminent or not has no bearing on the inaccuracy of the statement.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 10, 2021, 06:05:38 PM
No Oisin Mullin and Eoghan McLaughlin and as expected no Cillian O'Connor

Enda Hession, Bryan Walsh out and  Oisin Mullin and Eoghan McLaughlin in 5 minutes before throw in?

Yes
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jayop on September 10, 2021, 07:26:45 PM
Barry O'Donnell
@bod_uherald

Meath 96 winners the Jubilee team tomorrow- a team fondly remembered by all Tyrone and Mayo fans- be an interesting reaction at Croke Park
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 10, 2021, 07:41:34 PM
Barry O'Donnell
@bod_uherald

Meath 96 winners the Jubilee team tomorrow- a team fondly remembered by all Tyrone and Mayo fans- be an interesting reaction at Croke Park

Ha! I'm hoping it's because it's 25 years and not because the GAA are trolling Tyrone/Mayo.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: larryin89 on September 10, 2021, 08:00:35 PM
eoghan mcghloughin not in 26 per programme
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Armagh Girl on September 10, 2021, 08:27:17 PM
Good Luck to our neighbour's Tyrone, hopefully tomorrow they bring Sam back North again!!  It should be a great match and expect them to win by a few points.... :)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Muck Savage on September 10, 2021, 08:28:33 PM
I haven’t really been following this thread and no doubt most of the points have already been made but my 2 cents:- I think Mayo will win by 4 or 5 points, i’ve a Zen like feeling of calmness that I know the result, but there is of course no basis for it.

The aftermath of the Tyrone v Kerry match was a strange one for me, Tyrone were rightly lauded for masterminding a victory against raging hot favourites but then for the next few days there was some strange takes on it like Tyrone weren’t been giving enough credit etc..I actually thought they were given way too much credit – Tyrone came out the right side of an incredibly tight game against a team generally thought to have underperformed and been extremely tactically naïve, Kerry missed an open goal, Conor McKenna’s 2nd goal was so incredibly fortuitous, I just felt Tyrone got the rub of the green and by law of averages they wont be as lucky again.

I think Mayo bring an organised chaos that will trouble Tyrone, Tyrone are solid & formulaic and will be quite confident in their ability to shackle Mayo, but they’ll have to shackle about 3 or 4 different types of Mayo by the end of the game and I think one of them will get through.  Ignore the passion, desire, drive and history - I just think Mayo are a better side with a better manager.

Or are Tyrone's name written on it this year? Donegal game could have been different with Murphy not being sent off. The Monaghan game was very tight, against Kerry there were two fortuitous goals, Mckennas 2nd as you say and McShane was right place right time the rebound could have gone anywhere.

If the game is tight with 10 mins to go I suspect Tyrone will win, they are use to tight finishes and I think Mayo will wobble with all the bad experiences of past. For Mayo to win they need to be 5-6 points up to be able to see it out.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: pjm on September 10, 2021, 08:50:18 PM
eoghan mcghloughin not in 26 per programme

Where is a good spot to watch the match in Belfast?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 10, 2021, 09:05:40 PM
I sincerely wish the neighbours what it takes to get over the line tomorrow.I hope the team that lines out will be legends by nightfall.

As the Follower used to say, they will be remembered by their people.
And everyone else.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 10, 2021, 09:09:58 PM
Hard to know how it'll go. Can't call it. Hopefully we'll do it. Up Mayo.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thejuice on September 10, 2021, 09:25:34 PM
Barry O'Donnell
@bod_uherald

Meath 96 winners the Jubilee team tomorrow- a team fondly remembered by all Tyrone and Mayo fans- be an interesting reaction at Croke Park

Ha! I'm hoping it's because it's 25 years and not because the GAA are trolling Tyrone/Mayo.

You couldn’t make it up, like all the stars are aligning.

Who’ll get the biggest cheer? Martin O’Connell? Coyler? McDermott?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2021, 09:35:55 PM
Is the AOS thing about underperforming in Croke in a final being overplayed? Has he had some decent finals and are people expecting too much?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2021, 09:44:40 PM
No up for the match? Or has that been done away with?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 10, 2021, 09:45:07 PM
No up for the match? Or has that been done away with?

Was just asking the same!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2021, 09:46:24 PM
No up for the match? Or has that been done away with?

Was just asking the same!!

Probably timetabled for few weeks ago  ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 10, 2021, 09:47:29 PM
There was no hurling one either.

Could be scrapped. It had gone stale this long time.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2021, 09:49:46 PM
The one thing that worries me is our scoring.

On the 69th minute, we were on 1-10. That's fairly low. Kerry had 0-15. Had that Canavan shot not fallen to McShane, we were looking at a very disappointing return. Almost choking level.

What of the 2003 Final, where we prevailed with 0-12, only, and hardly could be described as choking?

It all depends, I'd say, and depending on how frugal the respective defences are, it might be surprising as to what will be actually necessary.

That's true but two different games completely.

I just worry that of that 1-10 on 69 mins, 0-5 was scored by the defence. I hope it was down to underrated Kerry defending and not a drying up of attacking prowess. It sorta started in the 2nd half v Monaghan. It worries me.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 10, 2021, 09:56:54 PM
It’s understandable. McCurry is the man you are looking for to keep the scoreboard ticking. He can find it tough to break free from tight shackles.

That said, every game has its own dynamic and there’ll always be worries. It was goals before the last game.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 10, 2021, 10:11:33 PM
Is the AOS thing about underperforming in Croke in a final being overplayed? Has he had some decent finals and are people expecting too much?

He hasn't scored in any unfortunately.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 10, 2021, 10:35:39 PM
No up for the match? Or has that been done away with?

Theres plenty of Philomena Begley stuff on YouTube if you're after it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 10, 2021, 10:38:45 PM
eoghan mcghloughin not in 26 per programme

Where is a good spot to watch the match in Belfast?

Pavilion, Parador and Errigal all on the Ormeau Road beside each other. You should get it in at least 1 or 2 of them.

The Bot be good too.
Others here will know places in the city centre.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2021, 10:40:51 PM
eoghan mcghloughin not in 26 per programme

Where is a good spot to watch the match in Belfast?

Pavilion, Parador and Errigal all on the Ormeau Road beside each other. You should get it in at least 1 or 2 of them.

The Bot be good too.
Others here will know places in the city centre.
The Garrick was showing the hurling final

Edit: just seen it’s showing sacker
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 10, 2021, 10:46:02 PM
Barry O'Donnell
@bod_uherald

Meath 96 winners the Jubilee team tomorrow- a team fondly remembered by all Tyrone and Mayo fans- be an interesting reaction at Croke Park

Ha! I'm hoping it's because it's 25 years and not because the GAA are trolling Tyrone/Mayo.

You couldn’t make it up, like all the stars are aligning.

Who’ll get the biggest cheer? Martin O’Connell? Coyler? McDermott?

I’d say they’ll all get a touch from the Mayo crowd.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Main Street on September 10, 2021, 10:46:49 PM
With Ulster blood being thicker than common sense and a higher nature, I do hope that Tyrone (albeit our lesser Ulsterites) will bring back Sam. Though it's more than a hope of a victory because you get the feeling that they've rediscovered that ingredient to eek out victory in  important games .....even  against their betters! There is a  championship winning style team ethic about them and the ugly duckling, the swarm tackle, is as  highly tuned as in their vintage years. There's a question about what effect ref Gentle Joe will have, I hope he takes a Coldrick view of officiating.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2021, 10:51:48 PM
MS, from a Monaghan POV, did you think Tyrone were there for the taking in the 2nd half in the Ulster Final?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 10, 2021, 10:55:48 PM
I sincerely wish the neighbours what it takes to get over the line tomorrow.I hope the team that lines out will be legends by nightfall.

As the Follower used to say, they will be remembered by their people.
And everyone else.

God bless you Seafóid. We appreciate it. I hope the West awakens.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2021, 11:02:38 PM
Another thing that stood out from the semi v Kerry was that McCurry was being dominated by O'Sullivan. Under Harte, McCurry would have been pulled shortly after halftime. The current management stood by him, even after the black card, and it's arguable that his late points were the most crucial.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 10, 2021, 11:03:25 PM
Both Up for the Match and the presentation of the Jubilee teams are victims of the pandemic. There's no point in having an Up for the Match when you can't have a studio audience. The Jubilee team would bring more people to Croke Park and is therefore forbidden. I think they let Martin Storey, who was captain of Wexford in 1996, in for the hurling final and had some sort of presentation, which means Tommy Dowd (I'm told; I would have bet Darren Fay was the captain) will be there to represent the gallant Champions of 25 years ago.

There'll be booing, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 10, 2021, 11:10:43 PM
Another thing that stood out from the semi v Kerry was that McCurry was being dominated by O'Sullivan. Under Harte, McCurry would have been pulled shortly after halftime. The current management stood by him, even after the black card, and it's arguable that his late points were the most crucial.
I’m not sure saying that he was being dominated by O’Sullivan is a fair assessment. He was being targeted for double & triple marking. He was usually able to beat O’Sullivan to the ball but was meeting Kerry men (generally their midfielders) coming the other way. They were able to impose their physicality on him and he was goosed.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Chimley on September 10, 2021, 11:39:09 PM
I'm hopeful for tomorrow but it's through ignoring our long record of losing finals. I think the fact that we've lost finals in all sorts of ways by now, we are ready to actually win one for a change. It gives me hope that the only team to lower our colours in the championship at HQ since 2012 has been Dublin.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: fearsiuil on September 10, 2021, 11:40:27 PM
One thing odd about this year's final, is regardless of who wins tomorrow, at best they'll start as 3rd favourite for the All-Ireland in 2022, or if Tyrone win a tight one, probably 4th favourite.
Jeez, how's that favourites tag for 2021 working out for ye!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: An Watcher on September 10, 2021, 11:42:19 PM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2021, 11:43:49 PM
Another thing that stood out from the semi v Kerry was that McCurry was being dominated by O'Sullivan. Under Harte, McCurry would have been pulled shortly after halftime. The current management stood by him, even after the black card, and it's arguable that his late points were the most crucial.
I’m not sure saying that he was being dominated by O’Sullivan is a fair assessment. He was being targeted for double & triple marking. He was usually able to beat O’Sullivan to the ball but was meeting Kerry men (generally their midfielders) coming the other way. They were able to impose their physicality on him and he was goosed.

Oh he was totally dominated by O'Sullivan. Many balls were 1-on-1. The Kerry man produced a masterclass and it was class to witness.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 12:08:01 AM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!

Seriously? I’d say all Ulster bar Armagh would be cheering you’s tinkers on
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 11, 2021, 12:18:40 AM
Another thing that stood out from the semi v Kerry was that McCurry was being dominated by O'Sullivan. Under Harte, McCurry would have been pulled shortly after halftime. The current management stood by him, even after the black card, and it's arguable that his late points were the most crucial.
I’m not sure saying that he was being dominated by O’Sullivan is a fair assessment. He was being targeted for double & triple marking. He was usually able to beat O’Sullivan to the ball but was meeting Kerry men (generally their midfielders) coming the other way. They were able to impose their physicality on him and he was goosed.

Oh he was totally dominated by O'Sullivan. Many balls were 1-on-1. The Kerry man produced a masterclass and it was class to witness.
Nah, I wouldn’t agree with that. His biggest issues came about under pressure from more than one Kerry player.
That intensity from Kerry’s middle section dwindled and McCurry made some hay.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: blewuporstuffed on September 11, 2021, 12:19:56 AM
eoghan mcghloughin not in 26 per programme

Where is a good spot to watch the match in Belfast?

Pavilion, Parador and Errigal all on the Ormeau Road beside each other. You should get it in at least 1 or 2 of them.

The Bot be good too.
Others here will know places in the city centre.

I'd say the bot or the errigal is your best bet
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 11, 2021, 12:20:11 AM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!

Seriously? I’d say all Ulster bar Armagh would be cheering you’s tinkers on
There is no way Derry want them to win.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 11, 2021, 12:21:18 AM
eoghan mcghloughin not in 26 per programme

Where is a good spot to watch the match in Belfast?

Pavilion, Parador and Errigal all on the Ormeau Road beside each other. You should get it in at least 1 or 2 of them.

The Bot be good too.
Others here will know places in the city centre.

I'd say the bot or the errigal is your best bet
I’d say go to West Belfast and it would be harder to miss than to hit.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 11, 2021, 12:21:41 AM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!

Seriously? I’d say all Ulster bar Armagh would be cheering you’s tinkers on

Just 6 more years until Armagh’s jubilee team are back in Croke Park. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 11, 2021, 12:28:29 AM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!

Seriously? I’d say all Ulster bar Armagh would be cheering you’s tinkers on

Absolute No chance Derry, Armagh or Donegal, and Down probably don’t want Tyrone getting closer to their 5 either.  Fermanagh might be split though and Antrim most likely don’t care.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: blanketattack on September 11, 2021, 12:40:24 AM
Another thing that stood out from the semi v Kerry was that McCurry was being dominated by O'Sullivan. Under Harte, McCurry would have been pulled shortly after halftime. The current management stood by him, even after the black card, and it's arguable that his late points were the most crucial.
I’m not sure saying that he was being dominated by O’Sullivan is a fair assessment. He was being targeted for double & triple marking. He was usually able to beat O’Sullivan to the ball but was meeting Kerry men (generally their midfielders) coming the other way. They were able to impose their physicality on him and he was goosed.

Oh he was totally dominated by O'Sullivan. Many balls were 1-on-1. The Kerry man produced a masterclass and it was class to witness.

I agree. All of the first 6 or so balls in were simply 1-on-1 and either TOS beat him to the ball or dispossessed him.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 11, 2021, 12:49:29 AM
I haven’t really been following this thread and no doubt most of the points have already been made but my 2 cents:- I think Mayo will win by 4 or 5 points, i’ve a Zen like feeling of calmness that I know the result, but there is of course no basis for it.

The aftermath of the Tyrone v Kerry match was a strange one for me, Tyrone were rightly lauded for masterminding a victory against raging hot favourites but then for the next few days there was some strange takes on it like Tyrone weren’t been giving enough credit etc..I actually thought they were given way too much credit – Tyrone came out the right side of an incredibly tight game against a team generally thought to have underperformed and been extremely tactically naïve, Kerry missed an open goal, Conor McKenna’s 2nd goal was so incredibly fortuitous, I just felt Tyrone got the rub of the green and by law of averages they wont be as lucky again.

I think Mayo bring an organised chaos that will trouble Tyrone, Tyrone are solid & formulaic and will be quite confident in their ability to shackle Mayo, but they’ll have to shackle about 3 or 4 different types of Mayo by the end of the game and I think one of them will get through.  Ignore the passion, desire, drive and history - I just think Mayo are a better side with a better manager.

There's always many different perspectives on one game for sure, but I struggle with "Tyrone were given way too much credit". This is a team under new management who really needed the standard build up of McKenna Cup and league to bed in for their first shot at the championship, and even with that it was going to be tough. They didn't get that - their preparation as a new management team was limited to a quickfire league campaign in May. Then their marquee forward hasn't been able to start a game and their big young hope as a playmaker has also been out injured. Lack of games has also hurt in getting McKenna re adjusted. Thrown in 20 cases of Covid in the build up to Kerry and playing a fifth of the game with 14 (no complaints with either call but Kerry got away with some similar ones). Other than all that we've been really lucky  :D. The reality is that this team hasn't been credited enough for reaching this stage, I see it as an incredible achievement in the circumstances.

I also haven't really tipped Tyrone all summer. I knew we should beat Cavan but given the injuries at the time and post the Kerry hammering I felt Cavan had a nice wee shot there. And I was pretty much 50/50 for Donegal and Monaghan and less than that for Kerry, so I'd be daft to tip Tyrone at this stage.

What I will do is wish the boys all the best and that they bring a big performance, which would give them every chance. Also safe travels to all our fans and to the Mayo folk. I'd genuinely be shouting for Mayo in any other circumstances.

Up Tyrone.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ballinaman on September 11, 2021, 05:33:58 AM
As the old saying goes, sometimes you need to lose ten finals before you win one  ;)

We’ll keep coming back until it’s done.

Up Mayo
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:00:07 AM
Anyone got a link to the official Mayo 26?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tonto1888 on September 11, 2021, 07:02:46 AM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!

Seriously? I’d say all Ulster bar Armagh would be cheering you’s tinkers on

As an Armagh man I have to say I genuinely don’t mind who wins. Providing it’s not Tyrone haha.
Seriously. I’m not cheering Tyrone on but I’m not cheering against them either. I just want a good game and nothing controversial to take away from whoever wins.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:10:21 AM
Betting question,  if you wanted team a to win by more than 3 points;  do you write, team a,  -3?
Cheers
Yep, you’d write Tyrone -3, for Tyrone to win by 4 points or more.
Odds with both PP and Boyles is 10/3.  So 10 quid bet would return 43.33 if successful.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:42:09 AM
Anyone got a link to the official Mayo 26?
Indo has named the following:

Oisin Mullen
James Carr
Jordan Flynn
Darren Coen
Conor O’Shea
Brendan Harrison
Rory Byrne (GK)
Colm Boyle
Rory Brickenden
Aidan Orme

That leaves them one short, which I presume is Darren MacHale.

Mullen to start instead of Hession I reckon.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 07:45:57 AM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!

Seriously? I’d say all Ulster bar Armagh would be cheering you’s tinkers on

Absolute No chance Derry, Armagh or Donegal, and Down probably don’t want Tyrone getting closer to their 5 either.  Fermanagh might be split though and Antrim most likely don’t care.

Chelsea v Villa is on at the same time.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 11, 2021, 09:00:38 AM
Anyone got a link to the official Mayo 26?
Indo has named the following:

Oisin Mullen
James Carr
Jordan Flynn
Darren Coen
Conor O’Shea
Brendan Harrison
Rory Byrne (GK)
Colm Boyle
Rory Brickenden
Aidan Orme

That leaves them one short, which I presume is Darren MacHale.

Mullen to start instead of Hession I reckon.

Brother in law sent me a pic of the program which has:
Byrne
Harrison
Boyle
Mullen
Brickenden
Flynn
O'Shea
Durcan
Coen
Orme
Carr

which would mean James Durcan is the 'extra' name from the Indo.
Question - is the program team the same as the official team submitted to Croke Park?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 11, 2021, 09:02:29 AM
Anyone got a link to the official Mayo 26?
Indo has named the following:

Oisin Mullen
James Carr
Jordan Flynn
Darren Coen
Conor O’Shea
Brendan Harrison
Rory Byrne (GK)
Colm Boyle
Rory Brickenden
Aidan Orme

That leaves them one short, which I presume is Darren MacHale.

Mullen to start instead of Hession I reckon.

Brother in law sent me a pic of the program which has:
Byrne
Harrison
Boyle
Mullen
Brickenden
Flynn
O'Shea
Durcan
Coen
Orme
Carr

which would mean James Durcan is the 'extra' name from the Indo.
Question - is the program team the same as the official team submitted to Croke Park?
would mean MacHale not in the squad, and also would put an end to the speculation around McLaughlin and Cillian
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: JoG2 on September 11, 2021, 09:20:22 AM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!

Seriously? I’d say all Ulster bar Armagh would be cheering you’s tinkers on
There is no way Derry want them to win.

Up Mayo ye boy ye!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: laoislad on September 11, 2021, 09:31:20 AM
Up Mayo 🟢🔴
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 09:56:52 AM
Safe travels to all from both counties today, and be grateful for a big GAA day out. I think after the last 18 months we'll never take it for granted again.
 COME ON TYRONE!!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 11, 2021, 10:09:33 AM
Today is the day. Perhaps it’s my bias, as the designated Robbie Hennelly defender for the last decade. But I really feel like today is the final leg in the Robbie Hennelly redemption arc. Niall Morgan to pull at least one clanger of Hennelly 2016 proportions, Hennelly to put in a heroic display. Mayo lift the cup.

For the sake of god and all things that are holy, I hope I’m right.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 11, 2021, 10:36:54 AM
If Mayo do win it will hurt in Roscommon.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on September 11, 2021, 10:56:49 AM
Perfect day for football, just hope that the game is not decided by some controversy or a refereeing incident and may the best team win - and let's hope its Mayo!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 11:06:12 AM
Winning margin 1-3 points seems like the best value 15/4 either team or 8/1 the draw
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thefont on September 11, 2021, 11:07:09 AM
Despite all the press I've seen no mention of the real connection between the competing counties which involved a migration of Irish speaking families to the Ballycroy / Inishbiggle area in the 19th century sometime (I think).

From a quick google I couldn't find anything conclusive - I only heard it myself in this video where an elderly man mentions his family are from Tyrone and names other families that migrated West (link below) - Ó Domhnaill, Ó Cleirigh, Ó hEinrí.

https://youtu.be/me5BMR38jvU?t=172

Good luck to both teams from a very nervous Maigheoach!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 11, 2021, 11:53:31 AM
Despite all the press I've seen no mention of the real connection between the competing counties which involved a migration of Irish speaking families to the Ballycroy / Inishbiggle area in the 19th century sometime (I think).

From a quick google I couldn't find anything conclusive - I only heard it myself in this video where an elderly man mentions his family are from Tyrone and names other families that migrated West (link below) - Ó Domhnaill, Ó Cleirigh, Ó hEinrí.

https://youtu.be/me5BMR38jvU?t=172

Good luck to both teams from a very nervous Maigheoach!

Must read up on that, interesting, however those are Cenal Chonaill names
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Armagh18 on September 11, 2021, 12:33:50 PM
Thank Christ this game is almost here as I can't read another article or listen to another podcast.  C'mon Tir eoghain you're definitely on your own!!!!

Seriously? I’d say all Ulster bar Armagh would be cheering you’s tinkers on

Just 6 more years until Armagh’s jubilee team are back in Croke Park.
Scary.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 11, 2021, 12:38:27 PM
Fergie lost one already.
Tyrone need it
But Mayo need it more.


https://youtu.be/HSwda46cNMg
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 11, 2021, 12:43:20 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-gut-sense-is-that-mayo-will-draw-on-every-past-experience-and-find-release-1.4670387?mode=amp

But I think Mayo hold a slight advantage because they are just so battle hardened. What hasn’t already happened to them? All of those grim defeats have to be beneficial somewhere along the line. Because: here they are, again.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: greatpoint on September 11, 2021, 12:56:30 PM
Despite all the press I've seen no mention of the real connection between the competing counties which involved a migration of Irish speaking families to the Ballycroy / Inishbiggle area in the 19th century sometime (I think).

From a quick google I couldn't find anything conclusive - I only heard it myself in this video where an elderly man mentions his family are from Tyrone and names other families that migrated West (link below) - Ó Domhnaill, Ó Cleirigh, Ó hEinrí.

https://youtu.be/me5BMR38jvU?t=172

Good luck to both teams from a very nervous Maigheoach!

Must read up on that, interesting, however those are Cenal Chonaill names

O’Donnell and O’Clery are definitely Tír Chonaill names.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Tatler Jack on September 11, 2021, 12:58:26 PM
I only caught bits of both semis so watched back during the week. You could make a case for either side but I feel Mayo have a bit more to offer and especially in ET looked better while Tyrone looked like they were hanging on. Both teams got decisive breaks in their semis and today’s winners could well be the team that gets breaks - fortunate goal, goalkeeper error, black card, ref decisions etc. Good luck to both teams and great to have neither Dubs or Kingdom around the place. And to our neighbours enjoy the celebrations - I will be glad for some of my Mayo friends if they win - normal detest will return next year!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 11, 2021, 01:40:03 PM
Is the AOS thing about underperforming in Croke in a final being overplayed? Has he had some decent finals and are people expecting too much?

Expect Oshea to brake expect his duck today. Always plays well against Tyrone.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Real Talk on September 11, 2021, 02:13:00 PM
 In the current "water break" scenario .... then key game-plan situations can be addressed to the players ... by the start of the 4th quarter the best players will be on the field ... this is when McShane can have a huge impact.   
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 11, 2021, 02:13:55 PM
I'm going for Tyrone. I think Kerry were a little better than Dublin this year.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 11, 2021, 02:45:58 PM
Think the break has suited Mayo getting Mullen fit and downing the hype beating the dubs. Tyrone got a couple lucky breaks against naive Kerry defence.  Kerry will be more streetwise.  Mayo had advantage of extra 2 week rest. The word is Mullen, and Flynn in for Plunkett and Walsh. O'Shea will dominant the Tyrone midfield which is their weakness. Peter Harte, Matthew Donnelly, Niall Morgan and Darren McCurry never play well against Tyrone. Mayo have best 6 forwards in country. Would expect Conroy and O'Donoghue are the marquee to forwards mayo missed in previous years to put up big tallies from play. Could be 2-3 in Conroy.  Best of luck to both teams. I hope final is more competitive than hurling and I think mayo will power Tyrone away. Mayo by 10 . Mayo 3-16 Tyrone 0-15.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: greatpoint on September 11, 2021, 02:53:18 PM
Was thinking Mayo might just do it this time, their performance against Dublin maybe slightly more impressive than Tyrone’s against Kerry.

But then I saw David Brady’s tweet and the quotes from Andy Moran. Yiz never learn do yiz?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: macdanger2 on September 11, 2021, 03:15:24 PM
Good to luck all travelling today.

Hope it's a good match and a Mayo win
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: greatpoint on September 11, 2021, 03:25:48 PM

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 11, 2021, 03:28:41 PM
Was thinking Mayo might just do it this time, their performance against Dublin maybe slightly more impressive than Tyrone’s against Kerry.

But then I saw David Brady’s tweet and the quotes from Andy Moran. Yiz never learn do yiz?

What did Moran say?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 11, 2021, 03:32:30 PM



If you loose say nothing and if you win say far less.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 03:37:25 PM



Jesus Christ. Might actually make a twitter account now if we were to win.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 11, 2021, 03:38:12 PM
Despite all the press I've seen no mention of the real connection between the competing counties which involved a migration of Irish speaking families to the Ballycroy / Inishbiggle area in the 19th century sometime (I think).

From a quick google I couldn't find anything conclusive - I only heard it myself in this video where an elderly man mentions his family are from Tyrone and names other families that migrated West (link below) - Ó Domhnaill, Ó Cleirigh, Ó hEinrí.

https://youtu.be/me5BMR38jvU?t=172

Good luck to both teams from a very nervous Maigheoach!

Must read up on that, interesting, however those are Cenal Chonaill names

O’Donnell and O’Clery are definitely Tír Chonaill names.
I think the migration was mid 1600s with Cromwell tours
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: From the Bunker on September 11, 2021, 03:39:10 PM
Was thinking Mayo might just do it this time, their performance against Dublin maybe slightly more impressive than Tyrone’s against Kerry.

But then I saw David Brady’s tweet and the quotes from Andy Moran. Yiz never learn do yiz?

Two former players say a few silly things and you tarnish a whole county with arrogance.

No matter what a county says before an All Ireland. It's still the same embarrassing feeling when you lose!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Winning margin 1-3 points seems like the best value 15/4 either team or 8/1 the draw
Two fivers on Diarmuid O’Connor for me, for a bit of fun

To score first point of game - 33/1
To get first yellow card of game - 20/1
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 11, 2021, 03:54:12 PM
Was thinking Mayo might just do it this time, their performance against Dublin maybe slightly more impressive than Tyrone’s against Kerry.

But then I saw David Brady’s tweet and the quotes from Andy Moran. Yiz never learn do yiz?

Two former players say a few silly things and you tarnish a whole county with arrogance.

No matter what a county says before an All Ireland. It's still the same embarrassing feeling when you lose!

Would call it confidence rather than arrogance. With kerry out of the way mayo will be strong favourites. Think kerry played their final the last day.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Capt Pat on September 11, 2021, 04:30:16 PM
A hesitant vote to Mayo by a point. It should be a good game.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: clarshack on September 11, 2021, 04:31:13 PM
Feels like we are out numbered by Mayo supporters here.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 11, 2021, 04:34:51 PM
Joe McQuillan as referee. Now Ger Canning on commentary. Tyrone winning will put the feckin’ tin hat on it!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 11, 2021, 04:43:02 PM
soon. 😅
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 11, 2021, 04:45:17 PM
Oisin Mullen starting instead Enda Hession no real surprise there. Any late change for Tyrone?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: From the Bunker on September 11, 2021, 04:46:47 PM
Feels like we are out numbered by Mayo supporters here.

Mayo have had the last 10 years experience of getting tickets. Plus they had extra weeks on Tyrone to forage!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: hoynevalley on September 11, 2021, 04:47:10 PM
Mayo warming up on the hill. The saw doctors music playing on Croke Park speaker.  The omens are looking good for Mayo. Start of new era.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 05:00:01 PM
Have went for the draw
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 05:03:45 PM
Morgan rattled already, not a good sign
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 11, 2021, 05:08:52 PM
Mayo an amazing start.  This looks real, winners waiting on the podium. 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 05:09:15 PM
Two doctors running on for that tackle? They’ll be busy today
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 05:21:22 PM
Still struggling to figure out how Mayo didn't score that goal, should have put the foot through the rebound rather than try to place it(in the same area a Tyrone player was covering too)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 05:21:31 PM
Good game thus far. Water break 17 minutes played. Mayo 0-3 Tyrone 0-4
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 05:21:57 PM
Good game, Hampsey & McCurry with class scores.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 05:25:04 PM
AoS been anonymous so far, that shot sums up his performance
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 05:25:09 PM
3 excellent points from play for Tyrone
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 05:31:51 PM
Good block for the goal attempt there.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 05:34:51 PM
Another good save there, both teams leaving too much room at the bck.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 05:35:05 PM
Serious save by Hennelly, saved their arses there. Mayo so exposed by the long ball in
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 05:35:31 PM
Mayo are going to have to wait a bit longer by looks of it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 05:36:41 PM
Morgan is a seriously good player, Tyrone getting really good scores from play.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 05:37:37 PM
Ryan O Donahue Mayos best player, really standing up.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 11, 2021, 05:38:43 PM
Mayo are going to have to wait a bit longer by looks of it

You think it’ll go to a replay too?  ;)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 05:39:27 PM
Black card all day long.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 05:41:26 PM
At least O'Shea winning abit of ball. Ruane. O'connor, McLoughlin, Loftus, need wake up a tad.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 05:42:37 PM
That's a penalty
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 05:43:25 PM
That was inside
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 05:43:54 PM
Half time Tyrone 0-10 Mayo 0-8. Both sides had a good chance to score a goal and I'd put them down to poor misses than good saves.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 05:44:21 PM
Tomas on the money there, Mayo have been playing a bit too timid, they need to run at Tyrone and then they'll cause them problems. But then tbf they only really stepped it up in the 2nd half against Dublin, maybe it'll be the same here.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: screenexile on September 11, 2021, 05:44:44 PM
How was that not a yellow???
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 11, 2021, 05:44:52 PM
Mayo will be happy to be only 2 behind.

They need a serious second half now.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 11, 2021, 05:45:03 PM
That's a penalty
About 2 foot outside
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Estimator on September 11, 2021, 05:45:07 PM
Mayo falling into the same trap as Kerry.. Tyrone letting Mayo lads run it from midfield and half back, they think they've a free run at it, until, unsurprisingly, they get bottled up again and again.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 05:45:40 PM
Tyrone played well, Mayo as usual in previous games poor enough in the first half. Good enough game of football but alot of chances going amiss both sides.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Estimator on September 11, 2021, 05:46:26 PM
O'Hora got away with black card challenge, McGeary got away with a yellow card challenge.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 11, 2021, 05:46:30 PM
Black card all day long.

The very reason the back card was brought in. Ridiculous not even to get a yellow. Mayo getting a bit of help from Mcquillan
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 05:46:36 PM
Tyrone the better side some mighty scores from play, Mayo mainly taking frees, with exception of great score from Coen. Mcgeary should have got a yellow for the foul outside the square
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wolfetones on September 11, 2021, 05:46:47 PM
Was there not a very obvious black card for a foul on McCurry?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 05:47:05 PM
That's a penalty
About 2 foot outside

Two foot?  I suppose it depends on which foul he blew for
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tonto1888 on September 11, 2021, 05:47:10 PM
Was there no yellow card there?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tonto1888 on September 11, 2021, 05:48:05 PM
Was there not a very obvious black card for a foul on McCurry?

There was. And a yellow for McGeary missed also
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 11, 2021, 05:48:08 PM
That was inside

Think it was just outside
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 05:49:18 PM
The harte foul was inside, its hard to know which he blew for, as he went for a chat with the umpires. Tyrone probably should be a couple of more points in front.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 05:50:31 PM
Unless Mayo step up Tyrone will stretch that lead. O’Shea only fit for long balls and lay offs. Honestly don’t know if they can win it with him there.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: SouthDublinBro on September 11, 2021, 05:52:19 PM
Lee Keegan is some tr**p.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Ed Ricketts on September 11, 2021, 05:54:01 PM
Game being played on Tyrone’s terms. They are much more composed and efficient.

Mayo looking a bit Mayo in a final-ish. Lots of possession, but doing too many stupid things. Hopefully they can tighten it up and play a bit smarter in the second half.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 05:54:18 PM
That was inside

Think it was just outside

Correct it was. O’Hora was lucky he didn't see black.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 11, 2021, 05:55:11 PM
That's a penalty
About 2 foot outside

Two foot?  I suppose it depends on which foul he blew for

Yeah I am not sure which one it was. Either or they were both outside. Bit like in 2013 when they got a penalty for outside the box
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 05:55:31 PM
For Tyrone goal chance, McStay reckons McKenna should have caught initial ball, instead of laying it on to the running McCurry. What an ape McStay is.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 11, 2021, 05:56:54 PM
Hessian in for O Hora at half time surely?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 11, 2021, 05:57:02 PM
That's a penalty
About 2 foot outside

Two foot?  I suppose it depends on which foul he blew for
Doesn’t matter. It’s one continuous foul, not one foul or the other. The contact carried on into the box. You blow for the latest contact/give advantage and give the foul from the position most advantageous to the attacking team. You should know that surely
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 11, 2021, 05:57:29 PM
I think for o hora I don't think he had a "pull" at him, he sort of hit him and knocked him although if he got black he wouldn't have had many complaints. The penalty call was right, the high challenge was just outside. It could still go either way and a goal in this game could win it for either side.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 11, 2021, 05:59:11 PM
Mayo to bottle it again. Looking good for it so far
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:00:00 PM
Sean Cavanagh a dick
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:00:25 PM
Any chance RTE can find some other Tyrone man to be on these games? Cavanagh is bloody hard to listen to. It is possible to be partial to your own county but also at least appear to look at things a bit objectively.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 06:01:47 PM
How is that not a black card?! Am I missing something? Its a drag down by o hora??
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 06:03:13 PM
That's a penalty
About 2 foot outside

Two foot?  I suppose it depends on which foul he blew for
Doesn’t matter. It’s one continuous foul, not one foul or the other. The contact carried on into the box. You blow for the latest contact/give advantage and give the foul from the position most advantageous to the attacking team. You should know that surely

Eh? I didn’t hear at which point he blew so I’m not sure what you’re talking about, if he didn’t blow for the first contact but blew for the second then looking at it in slow motion it looked inside, he didn’t give advantage as he’d have had his hand up, I never seen him call advantage
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:04:04 PM
Didn't think. I see Loftus 2nd Half, Ruane needs to be playing Midfield.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 06:04:10 PM
Honestly if Mayo are to win this O’Shea needs subbed.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 11, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
A strike by Tyrone no 9?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:06:49 PM
I say there about 5 or 6 Mayo men in front of him I sub. Awful miss by Conroy there.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 11, 2021, 06:08:40 PM
That's a penalty
About 2 foot outside

Two foot?  I suppose it depends on which foul he blew for
Doesn’t matter. It’s one continuous foul, not one foul or the other. The contact carried on into the box. You blow for the latest contact/give advantage and give the foul from the position most advantageous to the attacking team. You should know that surely

Eh? I didn’t hear at which point he blew so I’m not sure what you’re talking about, if he didn’t blow for the first contact but blew for the second then looking at it in slow motion it looked inside, he didn’t give advantage as he’d have had his hand up, I never seen him call advantage
Fair enough, no issue. It’s on the edge of the box and happened so quickly so he prob subconsciously play advantage without putting the hand up and let the tackle/contact come to its conclusion. Probably was a pen
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 11, 2021, 06:09:25 PM
Right call
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:09:28 PM
Lol did Burns think he was actually going to get away with that
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 11, 2021, 06:09:51 PM
Lol did Burns think he was actually going to get away with that

He did
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:10:13 PM
Good God what a miss
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:10:49 PM
Very disjointed match, Mayo making some very poor decisions. Number of players in both teams playing poorly, some awful decision making. How come Mayo no left footed free taker.?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 11, 2021, 06:10:53 PM
Is touching the ball on the ground in your own box not a 14 yard free, cos it’s a technical foul?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Ed Ricketts on September 11, 2021, 06:10:59 PM
Oh Mayo…
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 06:11:20 PM
Bad miss on that for O’Donoghue. Still 10-8 with 44 minutes played.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: screenexile on September 11, 2021, 06:11:28 PM
Should have been a black card for Tyrone there too!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 06:11:37 PM
Keeper well off his line, grounds for a retake?

Close to square ball for the penalty, but I think DOC timed it well
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 11, 2021, 06:11:40 PM
Is touching the ball on the ground in your own box not a 14 yard free, cos it’s a technical foul?

It's a penalty
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: screenexile on September 11, 2021, 06:11:56 PM
Is touching the ball on the ground in your own box not a 14 yard free, cos it’s a technical foul?

If it’s in the 6 yard box it’s a pen.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:13:10 PM
Loftus playing very poor.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 06:13:26 PM
Great score from Hennelly, terrible from Sludden
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 06:13:45 PM
Is touching the ball on the ground in your own box not a 14 yard free, cos it’s a technical foul?

If it’s in the 6 yard box it’s a pen.

Penalty all day long and has been for a while
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 11, 2021, 06:14:01 PM
Is touching the ball on the ground in your own box not a 14 yard free, cos it’s a technical foul?

If it’s in the 6 yard box it’s a pen.
Fair enough yea that must be the exception
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 11, 2021, 06:14:09 PM
Game over
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:14:15 PM
Straight in, goal, pure fluke.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 11, 2021, 06:15:15 PM
Brilliant ball for goal.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:15:24 PM
What a shocking goal to concede, there needs to be a call from either defender or goalkeeper there, neither wanted to take authority

It was a tricky ball in terms of where it was played into, but there's no excuse for conceding that sort of goal when you have a 2v 1 advantage
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 06:15:31 PM
Great ball and Finish by Mcshane. Poor defending by Mayo. Tyrone lead 1-10 to 0-9 48 minutes played.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 06:15:37 PM
Straight in, goal, pure fluke.
Wasn’t remotely a fluke.
But Hennelly made it easy coming off his line.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:16:21 PM
Very poor from McKenna, standard very poor.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: From the Bunker on September 11, 2021, 06:17:17 PM
Ruane, O'Hora, K. Mcloughlin, DOC, Loftus..... not in it!  :-\
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:17:33 PM
Straight in, goal, pure fluke.
Wasn’t remotely a fluke.
But Hennelly made it easy coming off his line.

Hennelly looked like he was in 2 minds what to do, he'd have been better staying back rather than going halfway. He should have cleaned ball and all if he went out at all

Dangerous ball played in for sure but that's a poor goal to concede
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:18:51 PM
That's poor free taking,
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:18:59 PM
Couple of shocking misses by Tyrone there
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 06:19:06 PM
Tbh I kind of hoped Mayo won this but they just aren’t good enough
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 11, 2021, 06:19:46 PM
Tyrone have left 3 easy points behind them in this 2nd half
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 06:19:54 PM
Tyrone’s point taking was excellent in the first half. Gone to shite this half. They’ll need to get the radar back going
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 11, 2021, 06:20:00 PM
Good response to.the goal. Mayo never take the easy road.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:20:27 PM
Shooting away to the dogs.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 06:20:45 PM
Tbh I kind of hoped Mayo won this but they just aren’t good enough

Piss poor and Kerry would have beaten them also by this effort
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:21:56 PM
Some of them Mayo forwards, WTF.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 06:22:41 PM
Seen better shooting at an under 13 club game
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
Tactically and individually they just don’t have it. Starting to dominate but it will take them too long to catch up.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 06:23:13 PM
Straight in, goal, pure fluke.

Lol wut?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 06:23:20 PM
Some of them Mayo forwards, WTF.

Chit the nest again. Mayo just dont win senior All Irelands
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:23:24 PM
Christ that's an absolutely awful miss from Mayo, they've not been good at all and yet they've had enough poor misses that they could be well in the lead regardless
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Capt Pat on September 11, 2021, 06:24:00 PM
Mayo are blowing this. Walsh shot for a point like he was shooting for a goal and missed.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:26:12 PM
Mayo need to sub 3 or 4 of the forwards, Loftus should not seen the 2nd half. Tyrone playing just about OK, but Mayo as usual have kicked themselves out of it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 06:26:22 PM
They could be winning. Would take them half the evening scoring three points the way they are currently playing.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 06:26:47 PM
Finally
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:27:39 PM
All over now. Good goal.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 06:27:59 PM
Poor second half, some Mayo players anonymous. Just as I say it Kevin McL with point
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 06:28:03 PM
60 minutes 2nd goal for Tyrone. 2-10 to 0-12
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 11, 2021, 06:28:39 PM
Brilliantly taken goal.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Ed Ricketts on September 11, 2021, 06:29:15 PM
Jesus, Mayo have been dreadful. Tyrone not really a lot better, but have that wee bit more composure.

Exceptionally poor quality final, especially this second half. Worst since 2010.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 06:29:22 PM
Two quick points in reply. Game very much still on.

Some catch in midfield for the Tyrone goal
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:30:31 PM
Don't see this crap from the Dubs!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 06:30:54 PM
If you watch the goals does the keeper have to leave his line?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:31:25 PM
Hard to see a way back for Mayo at this stage. Only have themselves to blame tbh, they've had numerous golden opportunities that they squandered, and their defending for both goals was non existent.

They're still just 3 behind at the minute, but with how they're looking in front of goal today, I wouldn't have much faith in them overturning that gap
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:32:59 PM
Looking at the replay, Hennelly looks lost as he wanders out. There were a couple of defenders around McKenna as he ran in so he looked to be covered, Hennelly going out left an open goal for McCurry to palm into.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:33:28 PM
Good luck picking a man of the match from both teams.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2021, 06:33:52 PM
Looking at the replay, Hennelly looks lost as he wanders out. There were a couple of defenders around McKenna as he ran in so he looked to be covered, Hennelly going out left an open goal for McCurry to palm into.

Both goals are his fault
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 06:35:03 PM
66 minutes played. Tyrone 2-11 Mayo 0-14.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:35:29 PM
Mayo haven't make the subs when required, there about half the Mayo team could be subbed, least Tyrone bringing on good Forwards.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:35:35 PM
Looking at the replay, Hennelly looks lost as he wanders out. There were a couple of defenders around McKenna as he ran in so he looked to be covered, Hennelly going out left an open goal for McCurry to palm into.

Both goals are his fault

Yeah that's my view on it too. Fairly coming back down to earth after his heroics in the semi.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mourne Red on September 11, 2021, 06:36:56 PM
Aidan O'Se been terrible again in another AI Final
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 06:38:05 PM
I do not understand why he is still on.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:38:33 PM
Coen, Keegan played rightly, Hampsey, McCurry for Tyrone.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 06:40:03 PM
Congratulations Tyrone better team on the day
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Estimator on September 11, 2021, 06:40:14 PM
Aidan O'Se been terrible again in another AI Final
Doesn't seem close to any fitness. Waddling about the place. Should've been taken off a long time ago.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: screenexile on September 11, 2021, 06:40:21 PM
Tyrone absolutely deserving of that they’ve been excellent… as much as it pains me!!!

Mayo have been terrible!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:40:25 PM
O'Shea should be subbed, but I got about 5 to take off in front of him.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mourne Red on September 11, 2021, 06:40:27 PM
Shocking decision there from Dublin Joe.. 2 reds all day
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 06:40:30 PM
70 minutes played Tyrone 2-13 Mayo 0-14. Red card for Ruane.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tonto1888 on September 11, 2021, 06:40:32 PM
McQuillan!!!!!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rich Ricci on September 11, 2021, 06:40:45 PM
Mayo's decision making and finishing has been dreadful. No composure shown whatsoever.

Not sure how Loftus lasted as long as he did but the same could be said for a lot of their players.

Tyrone worthy winners.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Ed Ricketts on September 11, 2021, 06:41:00 PM
Mayo shooting has been pathetic. A lot of it not even under any real pressure. They don’t have the head for this. Cursed forever.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:41:38 PM
I think Tyrone played poor enough today, so whats that say about Mayo.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:42:36 PM
O'Shea subbed early in the semi and Mayo played fantastic. Not subbed today and they've been brutal. Coincidence?
Tbf he's not the only one at fault today, but he didn't show up at all today.

That was a joke of a call from Joe, 2 reds if you're giving anything.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 06:43:14 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Where are Larry and David Brady?!?!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:43:42 PM
End of the day you need at least 3 scoring forwards to win an all Ireland, Mayo have maybe just one. Tyrone plenty of scoring options.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 06:44:13 PM
Looking at the replay, Hennelly looks lost as he wanders out. There were a couple of defenders around McKenna as he ran in so he looked to be covered, Hennelly going out left an open goal for McCurry to palm into.

Both goals are his fault
Missed a few frees too. If they could let him take every free twice, his strike improves a lot.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:44:51 PM
It's seems fairly mad that Tyrone are going to win Sam here and I wouldn't have had them near the top of the contenders this year, and I don't even think they were especially impressive today.

But at the end of the day they got through all their games, and they've certainly been the better team today. So it's not undeserved at all.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 11, 2021, 06:45:16 PM
Mayo shooting has been pathetic. A lot of it not even under any real pressure. They don’t have the head for this. Cursed forever.

Yeah that’s about the height of it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on September 11, 2021, 06:45:43 PM
Petey Harte, what a f**king performance
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:46:39 PM
I was going to say Mayo lost their composure late on, but they never had it today. They missed enough chances to win a couple of games, and yet if they had a few cool heads late on they could still have took it. But the old failings came back again, and they just didn't produce on the day.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2021, 06:46:58 PM
Congratulations Tyrone fully deserved that win. FT Tyrone 2-14 Mayo 0-15
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 06:47:17 PM
Why isn’t o’Shea in the square??

Best team by a good bit won.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 06:47:56 PM
Can we get some of that Tyrone intensity, game management & spirit in Roscommon. Fair play to them by far the better team
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 11, 2021, 06:48:10 PM
Well done Tyrone. Much more composed. Better team today, no complaints.
We didn't help ourselves. Feel like the scoreboard was a bit deceptive but at the same time we were kept at arms length the entire time.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 11, 2021, 06:49:16 PM
Might not be the best team on paper but they know how to grind it out. Deserving winners. Sams going north
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Capt Pat on September 11, 2021, 06:49:56 PM
Well done to Tyrone. Deserving all Ireland champs.

What can Mayo do to mess up next year? The missed penalty was the turning point.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 06:50:04 PM
Said after the semi final that it would be the most Mayo thing ever for them to be the team to end Dublin's win streak, and then lose the final. When I saw how the other semi played out, I thought Mayo had a brilliant opportunity and that they should be winning it, but they were absolutely brutal on the day. Had plenty of chances but wasted loads of them. Tyrone the better team by a good bit and deserving winners.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 06:51:20 PM
Dublin would beat either team on that showing the day, they be bck on the scene nxt Yr. Tyrone played well enough to win but that's as poor a final since the Kerry hammering of Cork and Mayo in All-Ireland final in previous yrs.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 11, 2021, 06:51:30 PM
Congratulations to Tyrone

The better team won
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 06:51:55 PM
Poor oul Lee Keegan. Too many of his teammates had no composure. Despite the penalty miss and the loss of the two goals, the game was still there for them if they’d played well in the last 10 minutes + injury time. But they just didn’t have it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 11, 2021, 06:52:01 PM
Fair play Tyrone. Two midfielders deserve extraordinary credit. Niall Morgan motm me. Dooher and Logan really kind of showed that Harte was last year m’s man. Tyrone went man for man and trusted themselves. They were brilliant.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Main Street on September 11, 2021, 06:52:10 PM
Tyrone are not just the better team on the day, they are the best team this year and totally deserved.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 06:53:19 PM
They have been fantastic tactically. Those managers have proved very very good.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
Why isn’t o’Shea in the square??

Best team by a good bit won.

Was he on?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 11, 2021, 06:53:43 PM
And also, without any doubt whatsoever, Lee Keegan is the greatest player never to win an All Ireland. Might well be the greatest player ever. He’s just extraordinary.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on September 11, 2021, 06:53:57 PM
The far better team on the day won.
Rhu forwards were clueless in the second half.
Why was Aidan O Shea on the pitch ?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: pbat on September 11, 2021, 06:58:25 PM
Mayo got what they deserved, especially O Shea and Horan. When AOS done a Baywatch spread in the Sunday World and Horan letting it happen, you do these when you've a pocket full of medals. Them two men are all about themselves and not willing to make the sacrifices need to win Celt Crosses. Dave Hickey or Bernard Flynn a few years ago were not far wrong.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 11, 2021, 06:58:46 PM
Well done to Tyrone much the better team and won by a bit spare. As for Mayo at least it wasn't one of those finals they left behind them but you knew their goose was cooked once they missed that penalty.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 11, 2021, 06:59:38 PM
All i kept hearing was Tyrones mid field was their week link but they were outstanding along with Niall Morgan and many others. A fantastic team performance great skilful players.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: screenexile on September 11, 2021, 07:01:21 PM
And also, without any doubt whatsoever, Lee Keegan is the greatest player never to win an All Ireland. Might well be the greatest player ever. He’s just extraordinary.

Was brilliant all day bound to be sick this evening!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:01:47 PM
Donegal lad behind Hampsey making a show of himself and his county 😆
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Post by: tonto1888 on September 11, 2021, 07:02:44 PM
Congratulations to all the Tyrone posters. Enjoy the celebrations
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 07:03:25 PM
Mayo got what they deserved, especially O Shea and Horan. When AOS done a Baywatch spread in the Sunday World and Horan letting it happen, you do these when you've a pocket full of medals. Them two men are all about themselves and not willing to make the sacrifices need to win Celt Crosses. Dave Hickey or Bernard Flynn a few years ago were not far wrong.

Alot of truth in that, Aido made a gobshite of himself. Lee Keegan on the other hand is a serious bit of stuff, feel sorry for him, hes a winner most of his team mates are losers
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 11, 2021, 07:03:46 PM
Well done Tyrone. Best team by far on the day.

Mayo had too many passengers. The soccer shite for the penalty annoyed me.

Lee Keegan was Mayo's only soldier.

As for Aidan O'Shea.............sweet Jesus.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 11, 2021, 07:03:59 PM
Donegal lad behind Hampsey making a show of himself and his county 😆

Nothing to do with the rest of us.

I expect his family will be mortified though.

What a gobshite.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Armagh Girl on September 11, 2021, 07:04:16 PM
Well Done Tyrone you were excellent today and were the best team by far. Glad to see Sam coming over the border again. they had to play against Mayo and a referee who had no black cards to give Mayo along with the biased RTE commentary.
Enjoy your night 😊😊
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Capt Pat on September 11, 2021, 07:04:54 PM
That Donegal fan should be banned from receiving all ireland final tickets for a while. He obviously knows someone receiving tickets for a final his county isn't involved in.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Estimator on September 11, 2021, 07:05:17 PM
There would have been some odds available for that particular pairing at the outset, but sin é.

Bring it on!  :)

22/1 before the Ulster Final
Stuck £2.50 on it.

Tyrone were 16/1 to win the AI at the time
Stuck £5 on that.

I'd £5 on Tyrone -5   :(
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on September 11, 2021, 07:06:02 PM
How the fk did Horan leave AOS on the entire game?! I was cheering for Mayo at the start but that annoyed me no end.

Tyrone much more composed and assure of themselves on the ball. Fair play to them and I hope they give Dublin/Kerry many more challenges to come.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 07:06:05 PM
O'Shea was poor, but there were 6 or 7 players even poorer than him today, don't see anybody mention them.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 11, 2021, 07:06:45 PM
What’s this about the Donegal man?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 11, 2021, 07:08:25 PM
Tyrone far and away the better team. Thoroughly deserved champions.

Mayo lost their heads completely. That was almost painful watching them implode in that last 15 minutes. Total lack of leadership and composure, and no scoring forwards. Just a disorganized rabble in the end.

And I’m someone who was shouting for them on account of my mother and her extended family.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 11, 2021, 07:10:07 PM
What’s this about the Donegal man?

Some young bellend sitting first row over Hampsey’s left shoulder making a complete show of himself making obscene gestures.

Thankfully the camera moved him out of the viewer.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:10:34 PM
What’s this about the Donegal man?
Behind Hampsey at the beginning of the captain’s speech. Gesturing with his fingers!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: lenny on September 11, 2021, 07:10:43 PM
I can’t see a thing other than a Tyrone win.

Scoreline prediction - Tyrone 2.13  Mayo 0.14

Not a bad prediction if I do say so myself.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 11, 2021, 07:11:16 PM
What’s this about the Donegal man?

Gobshite making rude gestures behind the presentation podium.

On Twitter.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:11:46 PM
O'Shea was poor, but there were 6 or 7 players even poorer than him today, don't see anybody mention them.
That can be the only answer as to why Horan didn’t take him off like he did v the Dubs. I wouldn’t say there was anyone poorer, but there were a few as bad.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Mourne Red on September 11, 2021, 07:12:06 PM
O'Shea was poor, but there were 6 or 7 players even poorer than him today, don't see anybody mention them.

Name them.. I'd argue Hennelly was maybe worse than him but that would be it
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 07:12:38 PM
Donegal lad behind Hampsey making a show of himself and his county 😆

Nothing to do with the rest of us.

I expect his family will be mortified though.

What a gobshite.

Spoiled rotten brat with rich parents, could do with a good kick up the hole.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rodney trotter on September 11, 2021, 07:13:07 PM
Tyrone were the better team throughout. Mayo were the making the same routine mistakes which I thought they would have rectified. ]

Tyrone bench was also very strong and made a bg impact. McShane and Canavan.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 11, 2021, 07:13:32 PM
Donegal lad behind Hampsey making a show of himself and his county 😆

Nothing to do with the rest of us.

I expect his family will be mortified though.

What a gobshite.

Spoiled rotten brat with rich parents, could do with a good kick up the hole.

What did he do?

(I couldn’t watch any more)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 07:14:31 PM
Mayo got what they deserved, especially O Shea and Horan. When AOS done a Baywatch spread in the Sunday World and Horan letting it happen, you do these when you've a pocket full of medals. Them two men are all about themselves and not willing to make the sacrifices need to win Celt Crosses. Dave Hickey or Bernard Flynn a few years ago were not far wrong.

Absolutely. When there's a "running on a beach in speedos for the newspaper" championship, he'll win the medal.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 11, 2021, 07:14:54 PM
Donegal lad behind Hampsey making a show of himself and his county 😆

Nothing to do with the rest of us.

I expect his family will be mortified though.

What a gobshite.

Spoiled rotten brat with rich parents, could do with a good kick up the hole.

Can be that rich.

Thon jersey is from 20 years ago!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: SouthDublinBro on September 11, 2021, 07:15:01 PM
Beating the Dublin streak is a bit like winning an All Ireland.  ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: HiMucker on September 11, 2021, 07:15:10 PM
And also, without any doubt whatsoever, Lee Keegan is the greatest player never to win an All Ireland. Might well be the greatest player ever. He’s just extraordinary.

Was brilliant all day bound to be sick this evening!
Have te say I agree with yous lads, an absolutely incredible footballer.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 07:17:14 PM

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 11, 2021, 07:17:47 PM
The Iceland thunderclap?? ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:19:20 PM
O'Shea was poor, but there were 6 or 7 players even poorer than him today, don't see anybody mention them.

Name them.. I'd argue Hennelly was maybe worse than him but that would be it
Conor Loftus had a not too difficult 1-3, and finished with 0-0.
Diarmuid O’Connor was very quiet.
AOS is great for the throw-ins , but did very little positive work otherwise.
Not really fair to say who was worse, but Horan had a lot of options regarding who to take off.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 07:22:46 PM
Loftus, O'connor, Ruane, K McLoughlin, young ginger lad playing wing forward, and that's just the forwards
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 11, 2021, 07:24:39 PM
Downfall in AI finals for Mayo under Horan was conceding goals.

2012 v Donegal 2-11 to 0-13 (13 scores each)
2013 v Dublin 2-12 to 1-14 (14 scores v 15)
2020 v Dublin 2-14 to 0-15 (16 scores v 15)

If Tyrone are to win the final i feel they'll have to score at least 2 goals, easier said that done especially if Mayo defend as well as they did against Dublin.

Same downfall for Mayo under Horan in AI final and Tyrone got both goals easier than expected.

Well done Tyrone enjoy the celebrations.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:25:22 PM
It's seems fairly mad that Tyrone are going to win Sam here and I wouldn't have had them near the top of the contenders this year, and I don't even think they were especially impressive today.

But at the end of the day they got through all their games, and they've certainly been the better team today. So it's not undeserved at all.
Absolutely deserving winners.

And must be some teams in Ulster especially who think they are very close to Tyrone. Teams who thought they were a million miles away from Sam and now might think it’s something to realistically aim for.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 07:25:33 PM
Only good Mayo men were S Coen and Keegan, with Durkan, and the 2 Mayo corner forwards not too bad but still guilty of misses their team needed.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: J70 on September 11, 2021, 07:26:22 PM
And also, without any doubt whatsoever, Lee Keegan is the greatest player never to win an All Ireland. Might well be the greatest player ever. He’s just extraordinary.

Was brilliant all day bound to be sick this evening!
Have te say I agree with yous lads, an absolutely incredible footballer.

Yeah, but if a Tyrone man had done the sledging he did against McKenna in first half you'd be whining like bitches

FFS. ::)

There were plenty of Tyrone men shown mouthing away during the game.

Enjoy the win and stop whining like a bitch yourself.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: SouthDublinBro on September 11, 2021, 07:30:15 PM
Taking off O'Hora instead of O'Shea was criminal. Horan has a lot to answer for yet again after a failed AI final.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 11, 2021, 07:36:27 PM
And also, without any doubt whatsoever, Lee Keegan is the greatest player never to win an All Ireland. Might well be the greatest player ever. He’s just extraordinary.
The greatest player ever hahahahahhahaha
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:37:07 PM
Only good Mayo men were S Coen and Keegan, with Durkan, and the 2 Mayo corner forwards not too bad but still guilty of misses their team needed.
Conroy was very sharp, but they didn’t get him on enough ball. Albeit the poor connection for the goal chance (after a fantastic run) wasn’t good.
I think the Mayo defenders (apart from the keeper) all played between reasonably well and very well. But from midfield up was a different story.

 
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Hound on September 11, 2021, 07:39:43 PM
And also, without any doubt whatsoever, Lee Keegan is the greatest player never to win an All Ireland. Might well be the greatest player ever. He’s just extraordinary.
The greatest player ever hahahahahhahaha
Certainly in the running for the greatest defender ever. I can’t think of a better one from the last 30 years, although a few you could throw in the mix.
Not good enough at kicking points or even foot passing to be in the mix for greatest player ever.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 11, 2021, 07:42:58 PM
Tyrone got Mayo to fit into their Procrustean bed.
Well done Throne.
But where in the namajaysus does this leave Mayo?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 07:49:38 PM
Taking off O'Hora instead of O'Shea was criminal. Horan has a lot to answer for yet again after a failed AI final.

I completely agree. O Shea must have naked photos of Horan. First the captaincy ahead of Keegan, then two absolutely terrible performances in the semi and final.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 11, 2021, 07:49:45 PM
Good enough game of football. May be biased but felt mayo got a few soft calls. The first was the the first point should have been called for charging, the clear black card, going down as soon as they reach the scoring zone.

Couldn't understand some of the real hype around mayo. There 2nd half against dublin involved some wonder points. They never come off all the time and mayo seemed to rely on them in the second half.

Overall I felt tyrone deserved it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Capt Pat on September 11, 2021, 07:51:55 PM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 11, 2021, 07:52:46 PM
Tyrone deserved it, but it was not a good game of fball. Tight for spells and a good 20mins in the first half but the standard of fair was pretty poor. Tyrone not care regardless.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2021, 07:54:26 PM
What I liked about this was that the management kept McKenna on, knowing he was probably good for one moment. Same as McCurry in the semi. Under Harte, they'd have been hooked.

Excellent performances from McKernan, Hampsey, Harte and Sludden. Two mids had their best game.

Feel for Mayo people.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: sid waddell on September 11, 2021, 07:56:12 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: dublin7 on September 11, 2021, 07:57:54 PM
Poor game and Mayo got found out in the 2nd half. They stumbled past the dubs bit when they needed their forwards int he 2nd half yet again they let them down.

I was amazed Mayo were favorites based on their poor forward line. Tyrone have a far more rounded team (better bench) and that was key. Some of the efforts by the Mayo forwards in the 2nd half were embarrassing and must have been heart breaking for the rest of the team as they're dominating the Tyrone kick out.

Aidan O'Shea is a great fielder but what does he work on in training? His point shooting is embarrassing for an inter county footballer.

It's a pity he never played under Jim Gavin. I genuinely think he'd have made him work on his ball skills and he'd have made him some player
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 07:58:51 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

What in the name of God are you on about. Tyrone were the far better team. This glorification of Mayo needs to stop. It really does. They were very average.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 11, 2021, 08:04:04 PM
And also, without any doubt whatsoever, Lee Keegan is the greatest player never to win an All Ireland. Might well be the greatest player ever. He’s just extraordinary.
The greatest player ever hahahahahhahaha
Certainly in the running for the greatest defender ever. I can’t think of a better one from the last 30 years, although a few you could throw in the mix.
Not good enough at kicking points or even foot passing to be in the mix for greatest player ever.
Not even close
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 11, 2021, 08:04:48 PM
Donegal lad behind Hampsey making a show of himself and his county 😆

Nothing to do with the rest of us.

I expect his family will be mortified though.

What a gobshite.

Spoiled rotten brat with rich parents, could do with a good kick up the hole.

What did he do?

(I couldn’t watch any more)

Let's say he made it obvious he was from Donegal & hated Tyrone. Mayo headband with various finger gestures. If he was my own lad I bate him senseless. I live in Donegal & they have no love for Tyrone or Mayo after the way their supporters were treated by Mayo ones in the quarter final 2013.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: delgany on September 11, 2021, 08:06:21 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

Mayo needed to turn up.in the first instance. And take the blind fold off  ffs,  Tyrone stood up when it counted
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: sid waddell on September 11, 2021, 08:07:20 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

What in the name of God are you on about. Tyrone were the far better team. This glorification of Mayo needs to stop. It really does. They were very average.
Mayo were comfortably the better team for the first 25 minutes and butchered two gilt edged goal chances. Again Mayo totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half and proceeded to butcher pretty much every chance they got, which was a lot. Tyrone got two sucker punch goals. Harte's mark was the key play in staving off a comeback.

Tyrone won because they made few mistakes. Mayo's game was a tale of utter butchery.

They may throw their collective hats at it now.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 08:09:20 PM
That is nonsense Sid. The better team won. They were the better team by a good bit. How many Mayo players won their individual battles?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2021, 08:11:38 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

What in the name of God are you on about. Tyrone were the far better team. This glorification of Mayo needs to stop. It really does. They were very average.
Mayo were comfortably the better team for the first 25 minutes and butchered two gilt edged goal chances. Again Mayo totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half and proceeded to butcher pretty much every chance they got, which was a lot. Tyrone got two sucker punch goals. Harte's mark was the key play in staving off a comeback.

Tyrone won because they made few mistakes. Mayo's game was a tale of utter butchery.

They may throw their collective hats at it now.

You're usually not far off, but that's a bit off.

Game was played on Tyrone's terms for about 60 mins of the 77.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: dublin7 on September 11, 2021, 08:12:03 PM
That is nonsense Sid. The better team won. They were the better team by a good bit. How many Mayo players won their individual battles?

None of the forwards (except O'Donoghue)

It was groundhog day. Like all the All Irelands against Dublin they can compete all over the pitch but when it come to forwards who can kick a point they are a long way short
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on September 11, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
What I liked about this was that the management kept McKenna on, knowing he was probably good for one moment. Same as McCurry in the semi. Under Harte, they'd have been hooked.

Excellent performances from McKernan, Hampsey, Harte and Sludden. Two mids had their best game.

Feel for Mayo people.

I was crying for McKenna to be subbed just before he set up goal, was having a poor game. Shows what I know. Midfield was excellent, but look back on it, Petey was superb.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2021, 08:13:12 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

What in the name of God are you on about. Tyrone were the far better team. This glorification of Mayo needs to stop. It really does. They were very average.
Mayo were comfortably the better team for the first 25 minutes and butchered two gilt edged goal chances. Again Mayo totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half and proceeded to butcher pretty much every chance they got, which was a lot. Tyrone got two sucker punch goals. Harte's mark was the key play in staving off a comeback.

Tyrone won because they made few mistakes. Mayo's game was a tale of utter butchery.

They may throw their collective hats at it now.

You're usually not far off, but that's a bit off.

Game was played on Tyrone's terms for about 60 mins of the 77.

Yep agree with this. I wanted Mayo to win but they just weren’t good enough individually or collectively.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 08:16:41 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

What in the name of God are you on about. Tyrone were the far better team. This glorification of Mayo needs to stop. It really does. They were very average.
Mayo were comfortably the better team for the first 25 minutes and butchered two gilt edged goal chances. Again Mayo totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half and proceeded to butcher pretty much every chance they got, which was a lot. Tyrone got two sucker punch goals. Harte's mark was the key play in staving off a comeback.

Tyrone won because they made few mistakes. Mayo's game was a tale of utter butchery.

They may throw their collective hats at it now.

Absolute nonsense.
Wise up. Tyrone were the better team and it never really was in doubt after the penalty miss. That was our easiest all ireland final win by a stretch!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Ed Ricketts on September 11, 2021, 08:18:21 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

What in the name of God are you on about. Tyrone were the far better team. This glorification of Mayo needs to stop. It really does. They were very average.
Mayo were comfortably the better team for the first 25 minutes and butchered two gilt edged goal chances. Again Mayo totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half and proceeded to butcher pretty much every chance they got, which was a lot. Tyrone got two sucker punch goals. Harte's mark was the key play in staving off a comeback.

Tyrone won because they made few mistakes. Mayo's game was a tale of utter butchery.

They may throw their collective hats at it now.

You're usually not far off, but that's a bit off.

Game was played on Tyrone's terms for about 60 mins of the 77.

Yeah, Tyrone were comfortable all evening.

Mayo were butchering chances because they were shite all evening. One of their worst AI final performances. Peak 6 in a row Dublin or Tyrone of 15 years ago would’ve beat them by 20 points. They were that bad.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: SouthDublinBro on September 11, 2021, 08:19:57 PM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?

You watch too much soccer.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: weareros on September 11, 2021, 08:24:22 PM
Congrats to Tyrone. Felt apart from a good start by Mayo, Tyrone looked the more cohesive team after that and played some outstanding football, and took some really great scores. They had some poor wides in the 3rd but McShane’s goal settled them.  Very tough on Mayo to lose another All-Ireland. They had too many players that seemed to play with fear, indecisive in front of goals, and their bench as had been noted in advance did not have quality of Tyrone. Old warriors like Keegan did level best to rally them. He is a credit to the county. Their traditional game plan was not effective against Tyrone backs and there wasn’t a plan B. A final word on Tyrone - they are simply great GAA people and the treatment by GAA HQ was not right. They were almost gone by out of touch administrators. They are an example to every county on how to stand up for themselves. They full deserve to be called best team in the land today. And as we know in Ros, Mayo will always be back. And fair play to them, too.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Nanderson on September 11, 2021, 08:26:57 PM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?

You watch too much soccer.
They have a point
(b) For the goalkeeper defending a penalty kick to
move nearer than 11m before the kick is taken.
 PENALTY -
 If a goal is not scored, the referee shall
allow the penalty kick to be retaken.
Although i don't think i've ever seen it enforced in GAA
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 11, 2021, 08:27:36 PM
Well done Tyrone, best team by a long way and while Mayo left a few scores behind them so did Tyrone. Mayo I an afraid, just have a mental issue around the big day. How else can you explain them performing few % down on the semi. Thought McQuillan did good enough job although I think 2 yellows for the two boys fighting was the sensible callat the end as the game was over. There was me thinking Cavan would take Tyrone in Ulster and I wasn't that impressed with them but they've deservedly bet everyone in their path this year when it mattered.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: straightred on September 11, 2021, 08:29:47 PM
It's seems fairly mad that Tyrone are going to win Sam here and I wouldn't have had them near the top of the contenders this year, and I don't even think they were especially impressive today.

But at the end of the day they got through all their games, and they've certainly been the better team today. So it's not undeserved at all.
Absolutely deserving winners.

And must be some teams in Ulster especially who think they are very close to Tyrone. Teams who thought they were a million miles away from Sam and now might think it’s something to realistically aim for.
I think Monaghan in particular will be kicking themselves. They gave Tyrone a head start and ended up only losing by a point when they really deserved at least a draw. That game and indeed the Kerry game was a lot closer than today.
Maybe we all ready too much into the Dublin game. Dublin had just ran out of steam. I expect they will be back next year with a chip on their shoulder
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: straightred on September 11, 2021, 08:31:12 PM
Taking off O'Hora instead of O'Shea was criminal. Horan has a lot to answer for yet again after a failed AI final.
OHora was on a yellow and getting precariously close to another one. I thought it was a good call. Doesn't excuse Leaving OShea on though. Nothing does.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on September 11, 2021, 08:34:55 PM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?

You watch too much soccer.
They have a point
(b) For the goalkeeper defending a penalty kick to
move nearer than 11m before the kick is taken.
 PENALTY -
 If a goal is not scored, the referee shall
allow the penalty kick to be retaken.
Although i don't think i've ever seen it enforced in GAA

Look out. The Bottom Inspectors are in the building. Clench those cheeks.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: grounded on September 11, 2021, 08:35:36 PM
The post match sky commentary was very interesting with Donaghy, McGuiness, WJ and Canavan. The loss to Kerry in Killarney seems to have been a massive turning point in their mindset.
       Gutted for Mayo and particularly for the likes of Lee Keegan but on the other hand seeing Petey Harte at the end with the child was very uplifting after the disappointments he has had.
       On another note I hope we keep the knockout all Ireland and forget this super 8(or similar) business.
     
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Nanderson on September 11, 2021, 08:38:10 PM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?

You watch too much soccer.
They have a point
(b) For the goalkeeper defending a penalty kick to
move nearer than 11m before the kick is taken.
 PENALTY -
 If a goal is not scored, the referee shall
allow the penalty kick to be retaken.
Although i don't think i've ever seen it enforced in GAA

Look out. The Bottom Inspectors are in the building. Clench those cheeks.
What are you on about? Do you not want to know the rules?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: straightred on September 11, 2021, 08:39:10 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

What in the name of God are you on about. Tyrone were the far better team. This glorification of Mayo needs to stop. It really does. They were very average.
Mayo were comfortably the better team for the first 25 minutes and butchered two gilt edged goal chances. Again Mayo totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half and proceeded to butcher pretty much every chance they got, which was a lot. Tyrone got two sucker punch goals. Harte's mark was the key play in staving off a comeback.

Tyrone won because they made few mistakes. Mayo's game was a tale of utter butchery.

They may throw their collective hats at it now.
Sorry but this is miles off what happened. Tyrone were in control throughout. They did what they do. Defend in droves with discipline and then pick off scores on the break. They did it in the Donegal, Monaghan and Kerry games and did it again today. Mayo should have been ready for it but weren't. If anything Mayo got some handy enough frees which in many cases they didn't make much use off. Even the penalty came from a poorly kicked free kick. I think a good manager would get them closer. Build around the younger lads. They can't keep making the same mistakes every year and expect a different outcome.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: nrico2006 on September 11, 2021, 08:40:17 PM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?

You watch too much soccer.
They have a point
(b) For the goalkeeper defending a penalty kick to
move nearer than 11m before the kick is taken.
 PENALTY -
 If a goal is not scored, the referee shall
allow the penalty kick to be retaken.
Although i don't think i've ever seen it enforced in GAA

Look out. The Bottom Inspectors are in the building. Clench those cheeks.
What are you on about? Do you not want to know the rules?

It shouldn't have been taken in the first place never mind retaken - it was a square ball.

As for MOTM, Morgan and Meyler were brilliant today.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: HokeyPokey on September 11, 2021, 08:40:52 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.

I think, in fairness, we are all guilty of only seeing things through [insert county] tinted glasses. There were moment where I feared Mayo might come back into it or Tyrone might let them back into it, but Tyrone were clearly the better team, on the day. They were clearly the best team this year. Next year, who knows?

Tyrone shut down all Mayo's key men. I absolutely expected Mayo to win at Midfield and it seemed Tyrone's big weak point, but Tyrone won there. Tyrone also had some very easy opportunities which should have been put away; Mayo got away with one very clear black card and there were a couple of questionable frees which went their way in the first half. Mayo fluffed a lot of chances, but that wasn't just down to Mayo, it was down to Tyrone's pressure.

I think this is a young Mayo team where most of the player's haven't been there and there abouts as Tyrone's players over recent years. The championship, for once, looks very exciting going forward, with more games, and several teams who could win it. Though I must say, Tyrone can still potentially improve significantly.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: From the Bunker on September 11, 2021, 08:53:27 PM
Well Done Tyrone! Who would have thought earlier on in the year!

The better team won today and Mayo Posters need to such it up and move on.

Talk of the worst team ever to win an AI is poor form.

This team has won the AI on merit. Talk of how great they are lies in the years ahead.

But today they are the best in Ireland.

Once again well done Tyrone and enjoy the celebrations into the new year.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: mouview on September 11, 2021, 09:04:35 PM
I'm afraid Mayo's decade is over. Probably end of the line for O'Shea(s), Boyler, McLaughlin, maybe Keegan. Too many poor performers on the day, (Loftus had a nightmare. Commentary mentioned AOS had possible foot injury, why was he there?). Bad shooting, taking ball into contact, no penetration near goal. Donoghue one of Mayo's best but he looked too hyped up for the peno. Midfield had their worst outing of the year. They may win Connacht again next year but Galway really want to start getting their house in order and mounting some sort of sustained challenge.

Well done to Tyrone. As in the past, forced the opposition to play on their terms, and were defensively excellent. They may not be vintage champions, but you are champions for that particular year because you're the best at the end, not aggregated on what you do over several seasons. Brian Dooher is one hell of a legend in the Red Hand.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: HokeyPokey on September 11, 2021, 09:08:28 PM
Well Done Tyrone! Who would have thought earlier on in the year!

The better team won today and Mayo Posters need to such it up and move on.

Talk of the worst team ever to win an AI is poor form.

This team has won the AI on merit. Talk of how great they are lies in the years ahead.

But today they are the best in Ireland.

Once again well done Tyrone and enjoy the celebrations into the new year.

Tyrone were definitely the best team in Ireland THIS year.

Whether the standard overall was as strong as previous years is a different discussion.

In fairness, the vast, vast majority of Mayo fans have been good sports, which is a credit given what they have been through. Some of my best friends are from Mayo and I avoided watching it with them, knowing it would kill my buzz should we win!

I think there's a lot more potential in this Tyrone team and there are a lot of teams competing, so the championship could be as exciting as it has been for many, many years. I am sure Kerry, Dublin, Mayo and the other lights of Ulster will be sore... and plotting.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Sportacus on September 11, 2021, 09:09:46 PM
Congratulations Tyrone.  Deserving champions and a conveyor belt to keep them at the top table for another while.  I’m sure most people at best had Tyrone in the tier below Dublin, Kerry and Mayo but they showed what’s possible.  They have good players, had a good bench and they can fight it out with anyone. Dooher  and Logan can take massive credit. 

Someone will pull together a highlights reel of the  moments when Mayo blew it, snapping at chances, missing the penalty and Loftus had an almost open net in the first half.  But Tyrone fluffed a few as well and Mayo rode a few refereeing decisions.  The ‘Mayo can’t win finals’ thing will be overdone.

What goes on in Lee Keegan’s head I do no know.  So many heartbreaks and he’s still a complete  warrior. O’Hora being subbed will become one of those infamous Horan decisions.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: WT4E on September 11, 2021, 09:10:32 PM
What I liked about this was that the management kept McKenna on, knowing he was probably good for one moment. Same as McCurry in the semi. Under Harte, they'd have been hooked.

Excellent performances from McKernan, Hampsey, Harte and Sludden. Two mids had their best game.

Feel for Mayo people.

I was crying for McKenna to be subbed just before he set up goal, was having a poor game. Shows what I know. Midfield was excellent, but look back on it, Petey was superb.

I said in the semi and was saying it today mckenna is a big game player he works hard and when u need him he will do something...... the pass was unbelievable. Usually when u watching on TV u can see the pass as u have the vantage of angles etc but when he was going through the pass wasn't even obvious on the TV and he delivered it to perfection.

Long live mckenna.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Solo_run on September 11, 2021, 09:10:57 PM
As an Armagh fan and as much as I don't like Tyrone....Congratulations on your fourth AI win. A lot of people were thinking Tyrone were done for when Harte left and they got smashed by Kerry in the league. However, they have managed to turn their season around quite dramatically. A lot of teams would have fell apart after losing to Kerry in a condensed season but Tyrone didn't. I do admire how they controlled their own destiny.

Mayo were woeful. Not too sure where Mayo go from here. Horan does so much for Mayo but the amount of losses they have accumulated over the last few years is going to be psychological issue that will pass down generations.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 11, 2021, 09:14:04 PM
Taking off O'Hora instead of O'Shea was criminal. Horan has a lot to answer for yet again after a failed AI final.

Can we finally stop this crap about oshea being a top quality player. Scored 1 poor from play in all the finals prior to this game. Is too slow, takes the ball into the tackle and goes down everytime at any contact.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Nanderson on September 11, 2021, 09:19:20 PM
Will this be the last year of the knockout format?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on September 11, 2021, 09:20:22 PM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?

You watch too much soccer.
They have a point
(b) For the goalkeeper defending a penalty kick to
move nearer than 11m before the kick is taken.
 PENALTY -
 If a goal is not scored, the referee shall
allow the penalty kick to be retaken.
Although i don't think i've ever seen it enforced in GAA

Look out. The Bottom Inspectors are in the building. Clench those cheeks.
What are you on about? Do you not want to know the rules?

What rules? Sure the refs haven't a clue about the black card, let alone anything else.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on September 11, 2021, 09:35:32 PM
Taking off O'Hora instead of O'Shea was criminal. Horan has a lot to answer for yet again after a failed AI final.

Can we finally stop this crap about oshea being a top quality player. Scored 1 poor from play in all the finals prior to this game. Is too slow, takes the ball into the tackle and goes down everytime at any contact.

OShea has been treading water for couple of years. Horan showed balls in semi, but calved the big decision in final. We were delighted to see him in team.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 11, 2021, 09:38:04 PM
Worst final defeat ever. Mayo defeated themselves. They played the occasion, not the match.

I can only rationalise it by thinking that Mayo have Stockholm Syndrome and their identity is too attached to losing finals. This is one they should never have lost. They had the winning of that match and then some. They should have been winning it by seven or eight points.

All this has to stop. It's too painful for the rest of the country, never mind Mayo.

Tyrone are the most average team to win an All-Ireland for a loooong time.
Like in last years All-Ireland final with Dublin winning 2-14 to 0-15  Tyrone fully deserved their 5 point win.
 
In the terms of defeating themselves and one's they should never have lost then look no further than the 2013,2016 drawn and 2017 finals. Today Mayo was simply beaten by the better side on the day individually and collectively.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Sportacus on September 11, 2021, 09:41:06 PM
All the experts who never won a thing on here slagging AOS.  Wise up. He is what he is, has good days and bad days. Twice the player almost every person on this board ever was.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 11, 2021, 09:42:03 PM
O’Shea wasn’t the problem today.

Ruans went missing for maybe the first time in his life. loftus made a mess of everything in the final third. McLaughlin couldn’t get into it. Walsh was found wanting. DOC was largely a passenger.

Aidan generally did okay without ever threatening the game. Better than most.

His role / position was beyond confused. But he didn’t do much wrong in my book.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: shawshank on September 11, 2021, 09:42:56 PM
This is a final where the analysis is simple.  A story of one team taking their goal chances the other didn’t. The result would be been reversed if Mayo took their gl chances and Tyrone had not. Congratulations Tyrone on a deserved All Ireland
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on September 11, 2021, 09:45:10 PM
All the experts who never won a thing on here slagging AOS.  Wise up. He is what he is, has good days and bad days. Twice the player almost every person on this board ever was.

Very true. Measured by his All -Ireland medals.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: dublin7 on September 11, 2021, 09:50:31 PM
All the experts who never won a thing on here slagging AOS.  Wise up. He is what he is, has good days and bad days. Twice the player almost every person on this board ever was.

Very true. Measured by his All -Ireland medals.
Bullshit. If he was a Dublin player under Jim Gavin he'd have dropped him. He's a great fielder but in all his years he's never worked on the other parts of his game.

He's actually unlucky he never had Jim Gavin as his manager. He wouldn't accept his poor football/shooting skills and he'd have made him work on them or he'd have dropped him from the panel.

How can a lad who's been playing inter county football for so many seasons gave such poor football skills
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Nanderson on September 11, 2021, 09:55:51 PM
All the experts who never won a thing on here slagging AOS.  Wise up. He is what he is, has good days and bad days. Twice the player almost every person on this board ever was.

Very true. Measured by his All -Ireland medals.
Bullshit. If he was a Dublin player under Jim Gavin he'd have dropped him. He's a great fielder but in all his years he's never worked on the other parts of his game.

He's actually unlucky he never had Jim Gavin as his manager. He wouldn't accept his poor football/shooting skills and he'd have made him work on them or he'd have dropped him from the panel.

How can a lad who's been playing inter county football for so many seasons gave such poor football skills
He sort of reminds me of someone who at underage had a massive physical advantage over everyone else but once they get to senior level the balance swings against them and they can get found out for lack of skill
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: straightred on September 11, 2021, 09:59:31 PM
All the experts who never won a thing on here slagging AOS.  Wise up. He is what he is, has good days and bad days. Twice the player almost every person on this board ever was.

Very true. Measured by his All -Ireland medals.
Bullshit. If he was a Dublin player under Jim Gavin he'd have dropped him. He's a great fielder but in all his years he's never worked on the other parts of his game.

He's actually unlucky he never had Jim Gavin as his manager. He wouldn't accept his poor football/shooting skills and he'd have made him work on them or he'd have dropped him from the panel.

How can a lad who's been playing inter county football for so many seasons gave such poor football skills
And just to emphasise the point. He won the 2nd half throw in and duly kicked it to a Tyrone lad. There wasn't a Mayo player within 10 years of the Tyrone player. That's him all over. No end product.

I'm not going to resort to personal insults or anything like that. I've never met him and probably never will. Off the pitch he's probably sound. However he's not good enough at this level and i can't understand how Mayo continue to try to build their game around him. In the semi final after he went off Mayo unleashed the shackles and played some great football. Why wasn't he taken off at say the 2nd water break when it was patently obvious that we wasn't contributing anything. That's on Horan and not O'Shea. Its not his fault he wasn't taken off.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: whitey on September 11, 2021, 10:04:59 PM
This is a final where the analysis is simple.  A story of one team taking their goal chances the other didn’t. The result would be been reversed if Mayo took their gl chances and Tyrone had not. Congratulations Tyrone on a deserved All Ireland

What do you think?

Mayo

A missed penalty (0 goals)

2 clear cut goal chances (0 goals)

2 half chances (0 goals)

Tyrone

2 clear cut goal chances (1 goal)

1 half chance (1 goal)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on September 11, 2021, 10:06:14 PM
All the experts who never won a thing on here slagging AOS.  Wise up. He is what he is, has good days and bad days. Twice the player almost every person on this board ever was.

Very true. Measured by his All -Ireland medals.
Bullshit. If he was a Dublin player under Jim Gavin he'd have dropped him. He's a great fielder but in all his years he's never worked on the other parts of his game.

He's actually unlucky he never had Jim Gavin as his manager. He wouldn't accept his poor football/shooting skills and he'd have made him work on them or he'd have dropped him from the panel.

How can a lad who's been playing inter county football for so many seasons gave such poor football skills
He sort of reminds me of someone who at underage had a massive physical advantage over everyone else but once they get to senior level the balance swings against them and they can get found out for lack of skill

I'm being honest here. I watched him in 2008 minor final and replay, I've never been impressed. For lad that size he went down far, far too easy. Sorry he'll never win an All Ireland, but.......
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 11, 2021, 10:14:03 PM
All the experts who never won a thing on here slagging AOS.  Wise up. He is what he is, has good days and bad days. Twice the player almost every person on this board ever was.

That's our Aidan! Scores 5 or 6 against Leitrim or London.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: chrissears on September 11, 2021, 10:30:19 PM
Aidan O'Shea is one of ther most overrated GAA players of his generation, watch how many times he drops or juggles a ball in every game, you should not be picked on size, its your ability that counts. That said too many Mayo players mis-placed or dropped simple hand passes. How many chances do we need? This was not a great Tyrone side
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Schkite on September 11, 2021, 10:31:52 PM
Can RTE really not find any other Tyrone ex-players to get on? Cavanagh is hard enough to listen to just once, but him being on both for the live game and the highlights show is really pushing it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: HokeyPokey on September 11, 2021, 10:39:38 PM
Can RTE really not find any other Tyrone ex-players to get on? Cavanagh is hard enough to listen to just once, but him being on both for the live game and the highlights show is really pushing it.

It seems to go by playing ability unfortunately. Tomás Ó Sé is quite good in fairness, but Gooch is not great for instance.

Enda McGinley would be an excellent contributor, very intelligent.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: thewobbler on September 11, 2021, 10:44:32 PM
McGinley is an excellent analyst. Very similar to Oisin McConville.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: nrico2006 on September 11, 2021, 10:55:18 PM
This is a final where the analysis is simple.  A story of one team taking their goal chances the other didn’t. The result would be been reversed if Mayo took their gl chances and Tyrone had not. Congratulations Tyrone on a deserved All Ireland

What do you think?

Mayo

A missed penalty (0 goals)

2 clear cut goal chances (0 goals)

2 half chances (0 goals)

Tyrone

2 clear cut goal chances (1 goal)

1 half chance (1 goal)

Tyrone had 3 clear cut goal chances.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: fearsiuil on September 11, 2021, 11:02:30 PM
Fair play Tyrone, deserving winners. More composed on the ball and better organised. Defensively impressive. Enjoy the celebrations, sound group of Tyronies around us. We were very poor, turned over consistently and forcing play. Credit the pressure on us all game long.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 11, 2021, 11:26:17 PM
Can RTE really not find any other Tyrone ex-players to get on? Cavanagh is hard enough to listen to just once, but him being on both for the live game and the highlights show is really pushing it.

It seems to go by playing ability unfortunately. Tomás Ó Sé is quite good in fairness, but Gooch is not great for instance.

Enda McGinley would be an excellent contributor, very intelligent.

Gooch is excellent you fool, he knows his stuff
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 11, 2021, 11:42:06 PM
Well Done Tyrone! Who would have thought earlier on in the year!

The better team won today and Mayo Posters need to such it up and move on.

Talk of the worst team ever to win an AI is poor form.

This team has won the AI on merit. Talk of how great they are lies in the years ahead.

But today they are the best in Ireland.

Once again well done Tyrone and enjoy the celebrations into the new year.

That's real class From the Bunker, fair play to you.

Still hard to believe for me. I called for Mickey to go in recent years because I believed - despite his fantastic service and huge knowledge - that his conservatism and micro management was holding a good team back. But I never believed that simply changing management would sort everything and I felt any new manager would need time to implement their ideas. For Logan and Dooher and co to have done this in a hugely shortened season is incredible.

Small margins again but I do think we deserved it. We'll enjoy this first and who knows what the future holds, but tantalising to think what we could do with a fully fit McShane at full forward after a run of games and likewise Canavan properly bedded in and a role found for McKenna that maximises his considerable talent. This team can still be better.

My condolences to Mayo. Form guide was so limited that it was hard to be sure what to read into the semis. I did wonder were Dublin 2021 really not that great. Maybe not, but today did suggest Mayo were perhaps over rated on the back of that win. I wish Mayo all the best though and I hope their day comes very soon.

To everyone associated with Tyrone: congratulations  :D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: OakLeaf on September 11, 2021, 11:47:33 PM
This is a final where the analysis is simple.  A story of one team taking their goal chances the other didn’t. The result would be been reversed if Mayo took their gl chances and Tyrone had not. Congratulations Tyrone on a deserved All Ireland

Very lazy analysis. Tyrone were always In control of the game. If Mayo had scored a goal (a big if) Tyrone would almost certainly have come back.. As a Derry man it pains me to say Tyrone were in a different class today. They fully deserved it. No ifs, no buts.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 11, 2021, 11:55:38 PM
McGinley is an excellent analyst. Very similar to Oisin McConville.

I agree, also  Declan Bogue and Thomas O Se. Their podcasts are thuraly enjoyable.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2021, 12:06:09 AM
Bogue is possibly the best GAA journalist out there.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rossfan on September 12, 2021, 12:09:14 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-more-excuses-please-from-footballs-great-time-wasters-40841976.html

Brolly lettin rip....
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: red hander on September 12, 2021, 12:19:00 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-more-excuses-please-from-footballs-great-time-wasters-40841976.html

Brolly lettin rip....

I hope he's hurting, the Derry w**ker   ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 12, 2021, 12:19:45 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-more-excuses-please-from-footballs-great-time-wasters-40841976.html

Brolly lettin rip....


Funny he thought they were the best thing since sliced bread after the Dublin game. Joe goes with the wind.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: cjx on September 12, 2021, 12:22:50 AM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?

You watch too much soccer.
They have a point
(b) For the goalkeeper defending a penalty kick to
move nearer than 11m before the kick is taken.
 PENALTY -
 If a goal is not scored, the referee shall
allow the penalty kick to be retaken.
Although i don't think i've ever seen it enforced in GAA

Look out. The Bottom Inspectors are in the building. Clench those cheeks.
Key point about the penalty was that Conn Kilpatirck was fouled when catching the ball, pushed from behind by Conroy I think, when the, very bad, free was kicked in. It should have been a free out. So justice was done in the end.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 12, 2021, 12:35:20 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-more-excuses-please-from-footballs-great-time-wasters-40841976.html

Brolly lettin rip....


Funny he thought they were the best thing since sliced bread after the Dublin game. Joe goes with the wind.

Funny he thought Mayo were dysfunctional before the Dublin semi and Dublin would destroy them. Then he produced no column the week after when Mayo beat them. Funny that. Asshole.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 12, 2021, 12:37:15 AM
Normally when an Ulshter team are in the All Ireland we close ranks and cheer on our own. This year I've heard Ulshter man after Ulshter man expressing a will for Mayo to triumph. It makes me ponder....are Tyrone a bunch of hateful koontz?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: dublin7 on September 12, 2021, 12:48:51 AM
Tyrone were worthy winners. Shot selection/decision making/skill levels were piss piss poor form Mayo while Tyrone made their chances count.

What did Mayo work on in training all season. The pressure came on today and the Mayo forwards were embarrassingly bad . Didn't want to know and  when pressure came on tonight.

Serious questions need to be asked of Horan and his mangement team. Shambolic is the only way to describe that Mayo performance and once again Aidan O'Shea scores nothing on All Ireland finals day when the pressure osoon
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyrone08 on September 12, 2021, 12:51:22 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

Good lad Larry. It's cause of fans like you and coffee shops in mayo giving out free drinks cause use were certain you won win that cost mayothst game. Constantly hyping up teams which never make it over the line. I can guess Lee Keegan isn't smiling in mckennas face anymore tonight.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: mouview on September 12, 2021, 12:55:16 AM
Tyrone were worthy winners. Shot selection/decision making/skill levels were piss piss poor form Mayo while Tyrone made their chances count.

What did Mayo work on in training all season. The pressure came on today and the Mayo forwards were embarrassingly bad . Didn't want to know and  when pressure came on tonight.

Serious questions need to be asked of Horan and his mangement team. Shambolic is the only way to describe that Mayo performance and once again Aidan O'Shea scores nothing on All Ireland finals day when the pressure osoon

Overcoming Dublin I suppose...
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: dublin7 on September 12, 2021, 01:00:10 AM
Tyrone were worthy winners. Shot selection/decision making/skill levels were piss piss poor form Mayo while Tyrone made their chances count.

What did Mayo work on in training all season. The pressure came on today and the Mayo forwards were embarrassingly bad . Didn't want to know and  when pressure came on tonight.

Serious questions need to be asked of Horan and his mangement team. Shambolic is the only way to describe that Mayo performance and once again Aidan O'Shea scores nothing on All Ireland finals day when the pressure osoon

Overcoming Dublin I suppose...

Did they though. They needed a dodgy referees decision just to get to extra time to beat the dubs.

Embarrassing from the Mayo forward line today. Yet again their piss poor forwards have been found out on the big day
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: armaghniac on September 12, 2021, 01:08:11 AM
Embarrassing from the Mayo forward line today. Yet again their piss poor forwards have been found out on the big day

Fortunately, those piss poor forwards were good enough to beat overfunded Dublin.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: dublin7 on September 12, 2021, 01:33:10 AM
Embarrassing from the Mayo forward line today. Yet again their piss poor forwards have been found out on the big day

Fortunately, those piss poor forwards were good enough to beat overfunded Dublin.

How many All Ireland titles/medals have those Dublin players? This year you had a Dublin squad who were running on empty and their priorities were other things than winning another All Ireland.

The reality is this Mayo squad isn't anywhere near the quality of the sides that pushed Dublin so close and they are as far away from winning Sam as they've ever been
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Main Street on September 12, 2021, 02:12:29 AM
When Dublin were knocked out this year there some hope that  some of the begrudging ballbags that support them would also be knocked out, but no, the attention seeking gurriers still linger past their sell time date to squeal about their petty grievances.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: macdanger2 on September 12, 2021, 02:16:02 AM
Jesus lads, I'm sick

Well done to all the Tyronies on here, the better team on the day won. Enjoy it lads

We'll come again as unlikely as that may seem tonight. Maigh Eo abú
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: highorlow on September 12, 2021, 02:30:45 AM
Congratulations Tyrone, I’m just in the door after a long day. Deserved winners and no complaints from our side.

I thought this year would be ours. Worthy champions Tyrone, enjoy the celebrations.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: dublin7 on September 12, 2021, 02:33:21 AM
When Dublin were knocked out this year there some hope that  some of the begrudging ballbags that support them would also be knocked out, but no, the attention seeking gurriers still linger past their sell time date to squeal about their petty grievances.

Well done you. You've somehow managed to have to have a dig at the dubs after an All Ireland final between Mayo and Tyrone. That's some serious bitterness there lad
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Crete Boom on September 12, 2021, 02:44:51 AM
Well done Tyrone better team won no question.
I thought you tightened up a tiny bit after the second goal and left the door slighty ajar for us but not long after you realised we were stuck in panic mode and drove it home with ease.
We were poor, error strewn on and off the pitch and seemed to be fighting against ourseleves as well as Tyrone to try and get into the game.
The scars from previous final losses I thought were evident today especially after the penalty miss when the harder we were trying the deeper we sank into a hole we couldn't get out of!
The second goal from Tyrone was quality and delivered at the perfect time and for me summed up the composure all Tyrone players showed once they got to the pitch of the game.
I feel for O'Shea as he is the lighting rod for all the annoyance of other counties who are sick of us wasting our chances in finals over and over again. Truth be told his time is likely done with Mayo now.
Horan needs to keep the youth drive going and I think Stephen Coen had quietly a great season for us.
One thing we haven't got right all season is our half forward line, from the very first league game it has been inconsistent in both play and selection.

Lastly to the couple of Dubs posters on here money can move you up a class but you are great example how money can never seem to buy you class.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Crete Boom on September 12, 2021, 02:53:34 AM
The intensity they brought to the kerry game was good but just as much about Kerry's lack of intensity (donnie buckley replaced by mountain climber ) .  Mayo players wont just match Tyrone intensity they'll murder them . Some of these bucks like o hora and mullin are off the scale in this department , you'll see .

I must be in the minority but I thought Kerry played well in the semi and I didn't think they lacked intensity.
You only have to look at the pressure they exerted on the Tyrone kick outs and their harrying of the Tyrone defenders.
Maybe that was the Tyrone master plan, let Kerry burn themselves out. It is what they did with Clifford, let him kick points until is leg got too tired.

Shame they didnt put some pressure on the goal scorers from Tyrone.  Kerry were shite and Tyrone aren't much better , like I've said a million times you'll see sat , our bucks will makes bits of them

Good lad Larry. It's cause of fans like you and coffee shops in mayo giving out free drinks cause use were certain you won win that cost mayothst game. Constantly hyping up teams which never make it over the line. I can guess Lee Keegan isn't smiling in mckennas face anymore tonight.

I know is probably over exhurberance after your deserved win but this post is complete horseshit in fairness. Enjoy the celebrations anyway though.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: macdanger2 on September 12, 2021, 03:53:17 AM
Well done Tyrone better team won no question.
I thought you tightened up a tiny bit after the second goal and left the door slighty ajar for us but not long after you realised we were stuck in panic mode and drove it home with ease.
We were poor, error strewn on and off the pitch and seemed to be fighting against ourseleves as well as Tyrone to try and get into the game.
The scars from previous final losses I thought were evident today especially after the penalty miss when the harder we were trying the deeper we sank into a hole we couldn't get out of!
The second goal from Tyrone was quality and delivered at the perfect time and for me summed up the composure all Tyrone players showed once they got to the pitch of the game.
I feel for O'Shea as he is the lighting rod for all the annoyance of other counties who are sick of us wasting our chances in finals over and over again. Truth be told his time is likely done with Mayo now.
Horan needs to keep the youth drive going and I think Stephen Coen had quietly a great season for us.
One thing we haven't got right all season is our half forward line, from the very first league game it has been inconsistent in both play and selection.

Lastly to the couple of Dubs posters on here money can move you up a class but you are great example how money can never seem to buy you class.
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Good post Crete but unfair, the dubs posters you reference aren't reflective of the real supporters here like hound, the hill is blue, etc. All decent gaa people and dead sound.

We lost today but we'll be back, we know no other way
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 12, 2021, 04:26:40 AM
Embarrassing from the Mayo forward line today. Yet again their piss poor forwards have been found out on the big day

Fortunately, those piss poor forwards were good enough to beat overfunded Dublin.

How many All Ireland titles/medals have those Dublin players? This year you had a Dublin squad who were running on empty and their priorities were other things than winning another All Ireland.

The reality is this Mayo squad isn't anywhere near the quality of the sides that pushed Dublin so close and they are as far away from winning Sam as they've ever been
That’s the poorest excuse I’ve ever heard. Their priorities were other things. That’s a cracker  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tonto1888 on September 12, 2021, 06:22:57 AM
Embarrassing from the Mayo forward line today. Yet again their piss poor forwards have been found out on the big day

Fortunately, those piss poor forwards were good enough to beat overfunded Dublin.

How many All Ireland titles/medals have those Dublin players? This year you had a Dublin squad who were running on empty and their priorities were other things than winning another All Ireland.

The reality is this Mayo squad isn't anywhere near the quality of the sides that pushed Dublin so close and they are as far away from winning Sam as they've ever been

And what were their priorities if not winning San? You are the sorest loser of anyone on this site
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 12, 2021, 06:41:24 AM
All the experts who never won a thing on here slagging AOS.  Wise up. He is what he is, has good days and bad days. Twice the player almost every person on this board ever was.

AOS
History repeats itself

https://youtu.be/t8Myb8i13qY
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: seafoid on September 12, 2021, 07:07:21 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html

Three-time All-Ireland winner Hickey described Mayo as a “tragic outfit” prior to last December’s final clash with Dublin
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: lenny on September 12, 2021, 07:31:05 AM
Well done to Tyrone, as I expected they won the game comfortably and had it under control from early on. I think at this stage they’ve pushed themselves up the rankings and are now probably the second best team in the country after Dublin with Kerry third.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 12, 2021, 07:42:08 AM
Get some scientists in to study this strain of covid that the Tyrone boys caught.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: tyroneman on September 12, 2021, 08:01:43 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html

Three-time All-Ireland winner Hickey described Mayo as a “tragic outfit” prior to last December’s final clash with Dublin

That article is pure comedy gold..lamenting the hard done by Dubs and begrudgingly tipping Mayo to beat Kerry in the final…..with not a mention of Tyrone.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: knockitdown on September 12, 2021, 08:24:39 AM
Anyone able to post Brollys full analysis from the independent?
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Itchy on September 12, 2021, 08:30:07 AM
Anyone able to post Brollys full analysis from the independent?

Analysis by Joe brolly

Mayo are shite this week
Funny story that never happened  no 1
Funny story that never happened  no 2
Mayo are shite

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on September 12, 2021, 08:33:59 AM
Anyone able to post Brollys full analysis from the independent?

Didn’t see it but my guess is:

RTE quiz joke
Loads of pints last night
Received a text msg from a former player
Aidan O’Shea is a joke
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: grounded on September 12, 2021, 08:43:24 AM
https://www.otbsports.com/football/padraig-hampsey-speech-1250647

That's the link to Padraig's winning speech. A very under rated player.
       A credit to his county unlike the Donegal supporter behind him!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on September 12, 2021, 08:51:58 AM
Fair play to Tyrone - worthy winners and hats off to their fans too, all of whom I found to be very gracious in victory. Some other counties’ fans could learn a lot from them on how to behave themselves.

On the game itself - that was a very disappointing performance but you’d have to give credit to Tyrone for how they defended and managed their opposing players.

Leeroy once again outstanding for us, as was Stephen Coen. Other than those 2 with perhaps the odd exception, there was little to cheer in terms of performance.

We created a number of chances but just didn’t convert them and that was pretty much the story of the day. The absence of Cillian is unquantifiable. Don’t know if he would have been able to close the 5 point difference, but that’s by the by now.

Yesterday was Tyrones day and I wish them well and may they enjoy their celebrations, they Certainly deserve it.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on September 12, 2021, 08:55:02 AM
It was a better game than I expected and congratulations to Tyrone on a well deserved victory. Some achievement by Dooher and Logan in their first year in management and you have to have a grudging admiration for their ability to get the job done. It’s only a matter of time now before they steal Downs mantle as the most successful team in the 6 counties.

For Mayo they just failed to perform and had about 5 good goal chances yet took none of them. They have an abundance of good running half backs but have a severe shortage of good inside forwards who can finish. They will come back again but that is no consolation the day after another devastating defeat.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Gael85 on September 12, 2021, 08:59:07 AM
Well done Tyrone better team won no question.
I thought you tightened up a tiny bit after the second goal and left the door slighty ajar for us but not long after you realised we were stuck in panic mode and drove it home with ease.
We were poor, error strewn on and off the pitch and seemed to be fighting against ourseleves as well as Tyrone to try and get into the game.
The scars from previous final losses I thought were evident today especially after the penalty miss when the harder we were trying the deeper we sank into a hole we couldn't get out of!
The second goal from Tyrone was quality and delivered at the perfect time and for me summed up the composure all Tyrone players showed once they got to the pitch of the game.
I feel for O'Shea as he is the lighting rod for all the annoyance of other counties who are sick of us wasting our chances in finals over and over again. Truth be told his time is likely done with Mayo now.
Horan needs to keep the youth drive going and I think Stephen Coen had quietly a great season for us.
One thing we haven't got right all season is our half forward line, from the very first league game it has been inconsistent in both play and selection.

Lastly to the couple of Dubs posters on here money can move you up a class but you are great example how money can never seem to buy you class.

Only on gaaboard  every discussion turns to Dublin. Plenty other threads for that. This is Tyrone day.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 12, 2021, 09:04:20 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-more-excuses-please-from-footballs-great-time-wasters-40841976.html

Brolly lettin rip....


Funny he thought they were the best thing since sliced bread after the Dublin game. Joe goes with the wind.

Funny he thought Mayo were dysfunctional before the Dublin semi and Dublin would destroy them. Then he produced no column the week after when Mayo beat them. Funny that. Asshole.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-end-of-dublins-decade-of-dominance-was-sad-to-see-but-not-as-sad-as-i-thought-it-would-be-40752413.html (https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-end-of-dublins-decade-of-dominance-was-sad-to-see-but-not-as-sad-as-i-thought-it-would-be-40752413.html)
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 12, 2021, 09:08:34 AM
Long day yesterday, but a great days craic and atmosphere even with half the crowd.
Tyrone just seem to be better set up and there was some big performances by that Tyrone team. Not least in midfield were I was worried we would be overrun. McCurry has been a class act this year and I hope he uses it to push on over the next few years. And if him, McKenna, McShane, Canavan all continue to develop then it’s an attack that can challenge with any County.
Mentions for Harte and Morgan as well as they were outstanding.

Can’t not feel for the Mayo supporters. Such a deserving group and I really hope they manage to get across the line at some point. Brought so much excitement to the championship the last decade. For Keegan alone it would be great. A rolls Royce player.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 12, 2021, 09:10:09 AM
Get some scientists in to study this strain of covid that the Tyrone boys caught.

Tyronavirus.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: 6th sam on September 12, 2021, 09:13:56 AM
https://www.otbsports.com/football/padraig-hampsey-speech-1250647

That's the link to Padraig's winning speech. A very under rated player.
       A credit to his county unlike the Donegal supporter behind him!
Great speech. Some great leaders in that Tyrone camp, who conduct themselves well. Gutted for Mayo , but I think they still lack enough marquee forwards. Would agree re Lee Keegan being outstanding, incredible athleticism and drive but ultimately not enough product from that,  whilst McKenna for example didn’t really play well but produces the best play of the game which essentially win the match.
Well done Tyrone
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Gael85 on September 12, 2021, 09:15:09 AM
Congrats and well done to Tyrone.  Got the goals at right time.  Niall Morgan restarts were top class. Tyrone midfielders Kennedy and Kilpatrick stood up today. Ben McDonnell caught great ball when entered pitch. McCurry had a great season. Niall Sludden had a good first half. Special mention to Meyler and McGeary brilliant all year, always thought their discipline was poor but this year they channelled their aggression excellently. From their winning 2015 u21 Hampsey, Meyler, McGeary, Burns and McShane are the central spine of current team. 

Commiserations to Mayo. Probably one of the toughest defeats to take. Stephen Coen, Lee Keegan and Paddy Durcan were excellent.  O'Donoghue and Conroy faded as Tyrone tightened up at back. Leaders Ruane and O'Connor were very quiet.

After all that we now have the club championship look forward to. Looking forward to getting to club games and watching on TG4.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: RedHand88 on September 12, 2021, 09:17:13 AM
Anyone able to post Brollys full analysis from the independent?

Analysis by Joe brolly

Mayo are shite this week
Funny story that never happened  no 1
Funny story that never happened  no 2
Mayo are shite

Some quote from the Art of War by Sun tzu.
Meet kieran mcgeary walking his dog in Pomeroy during the week and told him to give Mayo hell.
Had pints with Dooher last night and told him he thought tyrone would win.
Aidan o shea
Dig at RTE
Been watching tyrone train all week.
Knows padraig hampseys granda
Another dig at RTE
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 12, 2021, 09:21:04 AM
A small mention for Burns, I had my reservations about him starting tbh, but covers an enormous amount of ground and spoiled a lot of play on Mayo!! Was critical to turnovers, which is central to our game plan this year.

Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Gael85 on September 12, 2021, 09:30:52 AM
A small mention for Burns, I had my reservations about him starting tbh, but covers an enormous amount of ground and spoiled a lot of play on Mayo!! Was critical to turnovers, which is central to our game plan this year.

Some engine on Burns.  Not the best footballer but has serious heart. I think he had the most possessions against Kerry in semi final.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: yellowcard on September 12, 2021, 09:34:41 AM
A small mention for Burns, I had my reservations about him starting tbh, but covers an enormous amount of ground and spoiled a lot of play on Mayo!! Was critical to turnovers, which is central to our game plan this year.

Thought Burns was crucial to Tyrone’s game plan all year. Tackles on the edge but positionally very good and wins a serious amount of possession.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: rodney trotter on September 12, 2021, 10:11:17 AM
Mayo played better in last years final. The 4 week gap wouldn't have helped but the lack of composure was very poor.

Noticeable for 2 teams in a All Ireland that they hadn't a player to take frees from either angle. McCurry took from both sides,took one in the first half which wasn't on for a left footer. O Donaghue the same for Mayo, dropped a free which lead to the goal. It was a free for a left footer
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: BennyCake on September 12, 2021, 10:23:52 AM
Anyone able to post Brollys full analysis from the independent?

Didn’t see it but my guess is:

RTE quiz joke
Loads of pints last night
Received a text msg from a former player
Aidan O’Shea is a joke

I’m so great
Everyone looking a selfie with me
The winners are great fellas and I knew they’d win
The losers are prima donnas and i knew they’d lose
The winning team all texted me afterwards
I’m so great
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Rudi on September 12, 2021, 10:30:37 AM
Claire Byrne has it right when its comes to Brolly, turn the wee bollix off. Hes a disgrace to the wonderful men he played with. You would wonder how lads like Anthony Tohill, Sean Marty etc tolerated an eggit like him.
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 12, 2021, 10:38:58 AM
Anyone able to post Brollys full analysis from the independent?

Didn’t see it but my guess is:

RTE quiz joke
Loads of pints last night
Received a text msg from a former player
Aidan O’Shea is a joke

I’m so great
Everyone looking a selfie with me
The winners are great fellas and I knew they’d win
The losers are prima donnas and i knew they’d lose
The winning team all texted me afterwards
I’m so great
:) :).
Bang on!
Title: Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
Post by: Halfquarter on September 12, 2021, 10:51:49 AM
Anyone able to post Brollys full analysis from the independent?

Premium
No more excuses please from football’s great time wasters

Joe Brolly
Mayo is full of cliques and favourites as culture will not change under Horan who made Tyrone’s job easy

September 11 2021 10:08 PM
Time wasters. A lot of other counties would give their right arms to be here. The people of Mayo put their heart and soul into their team. And this is what they get?
A manager on the sideline making choices based on political considerations. A protected captain who does not lead and never will.

Substituting Pádraig O’Hora in the 51st minute after he had surged forward to win a free inside the Tyrone half and had been taking the game to Tyrone? Leaving passengers on the field?

It was embarrassing and enraging, even if it was inevitable. The shame is that with a high-performance culture based on merit, Mayo could be so much more than this. I got a text from Pat Gilroy on the final whistle. It said “culture”.



At the highest level, the best culture wins. Which is why, in the end, a middling Tyrone team still learning their trade won easily. They are serious.

With Dooher, Logan and Peter Canavan leading the group, there is a merciless search for success. No passengers. No favourites. Winning big games, as they know, is war without guns.

The six in-a-row Dubs might have been highly skilled, highly conditioned, and expertly coached, but they would not have won without bringing war. Tyrone were up for it. Mayo, with a few exceptions, were not. How could they be? They have too many distractions.

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The game was finally over in the 25th minute. Aidan O’Shea was presented with the easiest goal chance I have seen in a final. The Tyrone keeper was caught out and had left his goal empty, chasing back fearing the worst.

His life must have flashed before his eyes. He needn’t have worried. “Oh for f**k sake” the Mayo man beside me said. My brother Proinsias texted me, “As I said our boy”.

When there are individuals who are undroppable and a manager has favourites, cliques form and it is not a team.

The players know this, and the true bonds of loyalty and togetherness that are compulsory for success are missing.

The manager talks a good game but it is merely talk. I feel bad for Mayo and its people and its wonderful clubs but until this malaise is rooted out, this will continue to be their reality.



Straws will be clutched at. Mayo missed a penalty when they were two points down. But when everything isn’t right, nothing is right.

The feeling of liberation at the absence of Dublin and the hope that Mayo might perform was soon replaced with a feeling that nothing has changed. Tyrone, all calm and composed and ruthless when it came to it, won by five points.

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It could have been worse, if for the second game in a row, the ‘Son of God’ hadn’t missed what for him was an easy goal chance.

I have watched him with excitement since he was a teenager and have never seen him miss a goal chance. It must be the Carrickmore in him. He has his first Sam Maguire already. His father, who did not win his first until he was 33, must be well pleased.

I wrote last week that what happened in the last quarter of the Dublin game and in extra-time was not a game plan. It was a crazy, unpredictable, emotional energy that an unde