Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope

[J70]

How did Guimares stay on the field?

The goal - nothing clear even in the slow motion replays. No choice but to let it stand.

Nothing clear? The offside and push were clear and conclusive. Even the handball was.

We must be getting different footage in the states then so.

[J70]

The push - https://twitter.com/xTREAMx22/status/1720904406340673711/video/1

That angle shows the push more clearly, but was it shown during the game?

Over the line is impossible to tell unless you're side on or overhead.

Don't know what your man is on about with the keeper-defender thing with the offside. The ball was ahead of the keeper too.

[trailer]

Worst Utd team in my living memory only 6 points shy of one of the best Arsenal teams in a decade or more. Make it make sense.....

Gunnersaurus won't be happy.

[ONeill]

Need to not get in the old-style November rut.

[Main Street]

The push - https://twitter.com/xTREAMx22/status/1720904406340673711/video/1

That angle shows the push more clearly, but was it shown during the game?

Over the line is impossible to tell unless you're side on or overhead.

Don't know what your man is on about with the keeper-defender thing with the offside. The ball was ahead of the keeper too.

Look, some Arsenal fans don't even understand the offside law yet deign to venture opinions on such matters
and it's obvious that Arsenal player had totally missed the ball, had tried to turn his failure  into something different after receiving some pressure in the back from a Newcastle defender. Most neutral pundits opined there was no foul, just mainly a question about whether the ball was over the end line or not. In real time the ref thought it was a fair goal and VAR found no valid reason to question that.

[gawa316]

How did Guimares stay on the field?

Surely he will get a retrospective ban for that forearm to Jorginho?

[tyroneman]

1. Whole of ball needs to be out. From angle on VAR, the bottom was out but inconclusive as to whether side of ball was overhanging the line.
2. If ball went backwards to Gordon = no offside. Also not sure from camera angles if Gabriel and Raya weren't juuuust playing Gordon onside at moment ball hit Joelinton
3. Those challenges in box....some given, some not, was pretty weak defending by Gabriel either way

HAVERTZ = RED
GUIMARAES = RED

Not as 100% sold on goal being disallowed as Arteta and Arsenal fans believe, both sides can prob feel hard done by....but fact Arsenal has so much ball and so few shots on target....who's fault is that.....

[thewobbler]

The PL need to start handing out lengthy - 3 and 4 match - touch line bans for managers who rant about refereeing and VAR decisions.

Managers don't want consistency. They just want every decision to go their way. Then this paranoia spreads throughout the team and the supporters. So shut them the f**k up.

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If as a team you're incapable of generating a clearcut chance over the course of a match, then don't hold referees accountable for your team losing a point.

[Milltown Row2]

Flicked over before the goal controversy, but Havertz's tackle was a yellow and no more, had it happened over on other side away from the subs bench then there'd be no complaints.

Newcastle ended up with 3 yellow cards for losing it with the ref.

The managers or clubs should dock their game fee for giving off to ref, or drop them from next game.


Whether a player feels aggrieved on a decision the reaction will only make it worse..

 Guimares could have seen red, but didn't.

Nothing conclusive from the pictures I've see from available angles show ball completely over line..

Not sure in the off side, especially after utds game earlier lol.

Pushing and shoving in the box, both at it, play on if that was the case.

These things even themselves out over the year..

Fair play to ref for not taking any shite

[Armamike]

The likes of Arteta and Kompany were a bit more philosophical about VAR when talking about the Tottenham Liverpool match a few weeks ago.

[trailer]

Havertz tackle only a red if you get the ball and you play for Man Utd like Casemiro.

[Tony Baloney]

As MR says, these things even themselves out over the course of a season.

[trailer]

As MR says, these things even themselves out over the course of a season.

Tell Flopp and Replay F.C. that.

[blasmere]

Who's the real flops?

Clubs with the highest net spend between 2014-2023:

Manchester United – $1.48 billion
Chelsea – $1.10 billion
Paris Saint-Germain – $1.08 billion
Arsenal – $932 million
Manchester City – $916 million
Newcastle – $718 million
Barcelona – $709 million
Tottenham Hotspur – $652 million
AC Milan – $583 million
West Ham – $564 million

https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/man-utd-has-highest-net-spend-of-any-club-during-last-decade-20230906-WST-454283.html

[J70]

As MR says, these things even themselves out over the course of a season.

Tell Flopp and Replay F.C. that.

Ah pet...