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Don't expect them to get to the semi, more the QF in all honesty.

But - it's a possibility though that with a win over Fermanagh and with a handy draw the SF could be on. It's the potential ability to get beyond that - into and winning the final that marks contenders out - and I cannot see Armagh doing that this year.

I think they will restrict most teams in scoring against them but do not have the nous at CHF (S Kernan needs another year or 2 championship football against Dublin / Kerry etc) or a free enough scoring forward unit that will do sufficient damage at the hard end of things.

Armagh traditionally get way too cocky after a couple of wins, it would do them more good to adopt the cute hoorism of Kerry rather than the chest beating routine normally employed.

We in Tyrone bought into the conveyor belt myth created by the pundits and press alike since 2003 and it's only now that we are catching on it's exactly that - a myth. We'll trouble a good team somewhere along the way but won't be booking any hotels come September. Ulster dominance is not all it's cracked up to be

May or may not be right but it certainly justifies it.

Strange moral compass you have there Corn............................

But he is a tyrone player, public interest etc.

Doesn't make it right. The Sun and the NOTW use that argument ad infinitum.

Excellent. Truly excellent.

Can't say anything intelligent, take the playschool route.

Once again Tyroneman proves he has no GAA knowledge, good work again. I look forward to you making an idiot of yourself again soon

Based on what exactly Corn?

Armagh failed to win a championship game in 2007.
They failed to get out of Div 2 in 2008.
They were last in an AI final in 2003
What evidence do you derive from beating Cavan and Down that Armagh are AI contenders? As afar as I can see they will cause big teams problems but more than likely fall short come QF / SF time.

Reasonsed and mature post though, espcecially when followed up with:

has the referee gifting them free

any Down man who disagrees with the fact they got soft frees is living in dreamland

Down won very few handy frees in that game. If you watch the replays. If you understand football.

You fail to mention Ronan Clarkes 9-10 steps each and every time he was on the ball. Funny no complaints that the ref failed to give that as a free.

You fail to mention McKeever kneeing Coulter's bandaged leg on the sideline after the ball went out of play. No soft free there either.

You fail to mention the O'Rourkes holding onto jerseys and falling at every opportunity to buy frees.

Armagh are a decent team, with 2 good forwards. They have an excellent defence (although anyone who rates Fin Mo up alongside Andy MAllon is crazy - the 2 are poles apart).

The Rolls Rocye of the Armagh team is not McDonnell or Clarke, or even Oisin. It's Aaron Kernan

Once agin the Down game showed that Armagh's defence wins games. For the amount of posession Armagh had in the first (especially) and second half the tally they racked up was criminal.

A poor Tyrone forward line put up a better score FFS and we were abject in defence and MF.

I'd be delighted if you could point out my deficeit of GAA knowledge though. Or if you want to have a proper discourse, feel free. I'd appreciate less of the patronising though, son.

I normally get great value out of debating football with my Armagh neighbours, shame you can't lose your arrogant streak long enough.

Having seen your discourse with Downgirl though being called an idiot by you just might be alright.............................

an improved team who have potential but one that would be unable to get past any team with a decent shot at winning the AI

A Team that won..........................how many Championship games last year, are now in with a decent shot at the AI??? Kerry would have put double between them and Down.

Hopefully this gets transferred to Omagh for handiness sake. Last time Louth supporters were up there they were obnoxious enough (I'm sure this was a minority though - canlt see what they would have against TYrone particularly).

Was Coney given a straight red today??? Will be a big loss if so. Him and McKenna will be the Tyrone MF for years to come.

Any tryth that Ryan Mellon has left the panel, or just some armagh lads winding me up after thier latest night our in the Moy?

Fella in Strabane does good framing for very reasonable prices - I got a 2005 signed jersey framed for around £50

what is more worrying is that it was the younger players who hauled us back into the game

Surely that's great to see..................................................it's about time the next generation took on more responsibliity

1. Congrats to Down. Deserved the game in normal time, let alone extra time. Don't think they will trouble Derry (although I sincerely hope they do!) if they meet though as MF was the difference for them last night.Diver / Doherty / Muldoon etc would give Down all they wanted and more unfortunately.

2. This is by no means the end of the Tyrone team. Bar Dooher the rest still have another 4-5 good years in them, some (Sean, Penrose, Tommy, PJ, Justin) even more. Factor in young MCKenna, Coney and even the keeper from the minors.......the future is bright enough.

3. Harte for once got his tactics ALL wrong last night. Sean Cav at FF is criminal. I firmly believe we would have won that game with Sean at MF and Tommy in the forward line.

4. 7 combinations at MF spells a complete lack of ideas. This should have been sorted out in the league this past 3 years - it wasn't and came back to bite us big style.

5. Cav comes into MF we score 4 on the bounbce. SO MH moves him back to FF - go figure.

6. Colm Cav will never be a big player for Tyrone.

7. Hub is finished.

Ultimatley we were poor last night, lot of errors, most unforced. Poor choices througout the match. Poor tactics and poor shooting.

We will be back though.

Since Tally left we have been far less fit and yet had SON, Mugsy, Tommy, Justin and many many more plagued with soft tissue injuries.........................still MH sees nothing wrong with the physical training

Was it just me or did anyone else see Hargreaves push the ref into a Chelsea player during the melee?

When you are looking to transfer a Various Artists Album -how do you ensure they stay together under VA - Album Title - Artist - Song, instead of spreading out all over the IPOD as individual artists

So potentially we are facing Down with:

No SON
No Mugsy
No Tommy
Half Fit Dooher

You really wonder where the scores will come from...............................

Mulgrew...................1 or 2
McCullogh..................3 or 4 depending on frees
Enda........................1 or 2 max
Mellon........................1 or 2 max
Sean..........................3 or 4 required min

add in 2 or 3 from the back unit...............................