The ulster rugby trial

[Keyser soze]

Very relevant for some of the posters on here who have decided they are guilty already.

The judge in a rape trial involving two Ulster rugby players has told the jury to ignore "fireside lawyers" expressing opinions on the case on the internet.

Judge Patricia Smyth said the views expressed were "ill-informed" and told the jury to ignore all publicity surrounding the case.

She told the jury to assess the case on "the evidence that you see and hear in this courtroom and nothing else".

The 12-person jury has been told by Judge Patricia Smyth to wait until they hear all of the evidence in the case before coming to any final conclusions.

Doesn't apply to those who have decided they're not guilty already? No? 

What poster has come on and said they are definitely not guilty???

The same number as those who've said they're definitely guilty I'd guess.

Well go on and stick up a quote of someone saying they are definitely not guilty.

Yes my original post should have applied to those saying they are not guilty either.  However I don't think.I have read any poster say they are not guilty.  I have read posters saying they are guilty though.  Open to correction if you can find where someone has said they are not guilty.

There were certainly more than a few posters pronouncing their certain guilt after day 1, and not only that but calling other posters, who suggested listening to all the evidence before deciding guilt or innocence might be the sensible thing to do, rape apologists, amongst other things.

[magpie seanie]

The vast majority (I think everyone though I may have missed one or two when speed reading the thread) who mentioned guilt said something like "it looks like...." or "I think...." so relax. You're overegging it a little which is exactly what you're accusing others of.

[seafoid]

Frank Greaney

@FrankGreaney

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2h

Paddy Jackson/Stuart Olding rape trial resumes with judge repeating her warning to the jurors to just try the case on the evidence they see and hear in court and to completely ignore media reports, the internet , social media and Syferus

[Tony Baloney]

Frank Greaney

@FrankGreaney

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2h

Paddy Jackson/Stuart Olding rape trial resumes with judge repeating her warning to the jurors to just try the case on the evidence they see and hear in court and to completely ignore media reports, the internet , social media and Syferus

[Frank_The_Tank]

The vast majority (I think everyone though I may have missed one or two when speed reading the thread) who mentioned guilt said something like "it looks like...." or "I think...." so relax. You're overegging it a little which is exactly what you're accusing others of.

is there any posters who said not guilty? 

[Orior]

What this rape trial has done is to shine a light on our own weaknesses - we want to judge on the flimsy evidence provided here.

[Keyser soze]

The vast majority (I think everyone though I may have missed one or two when speed reading the thread) who mentioned guilt said something like "it looks like...." or "I think...." so relax. You're overegging it a little which is exactly what you're accusing others of.

Your hat Seanie, not only were many posters saying lock them up now they were labelling anyone who didn't agree as crusaders, victim blamers and rape apologists.

[longballin]

That's youse told off - 'fireside lawyers'   

[Syferus]

The vast majority (I think everyone though I may have missed one or two when speed reading the thread) who mentioned guilt said something like "it looks like...." or "I think...." so relax. You're overegging it a little which is exactly what you're accusing others of.

Your hat Seanie, not only were many posters saying lock them up now they were labelling anyone who didn't agree as crusaders, victim blamers and rape apologists.

If you don't think you can call out rape culture based on your opinion you've missed the point entirely.

This is not a court of law. You should do well to remember that next time you produce a pointless critique.

[magpie seanie]

The vast majority (I think everyone though I may have missed one or two when speed reading the thread) who mentioned guilt said something like "it looks like...." or "I think...." so relax. You're overegging it a little which is exactly what you're accusing others of.

Your hat Seanie, not only were many posters saying lock them up now they were labelling anyone who didn't agree as crusaders, victim blamers and rape apologists.

I'm afraid you are mistaken. I'm open to correction though so go on a produce this big volume of posts that I must have forgotten or didn't read. Exaggeration is the new norm it seems.

[Hound]

Seanie has Syferus on ignore.

[Keyser soze]

The vast majority (I think everyone though I may have missed one or two when speed reading the thread) who mentioned guilt said something like "it looks like...." or "I think...." so relax. You're overegging it a little which is exactly what you're accusing others of.

Your hat Seanie, not only were many posters saying lock them up now they were labelling anyone who didn't agree as crusaders, victim blamers and rape apologists.

I'm afraid you are mistaken. I'm open to correction though so go on a produce this big volume of posts that I must have forgotten or didn't read. Exaggeration is the new norm it seems.

A couple of posts ago you were asked to produce the posters who said they were not guilty and failed to do so. This discussion started on the rugby thread and there are quite a few posters on there who hung, drew and quartered the accused based on the prosecution's opening statement on day 1 of the trial. you will have no bother finding them if you want to have a look.

[Syferus]

There's cavemen in this thread who are aware how toxic an issue this is so they know enough not to say "I don't really believe the rape victim". So they think they're doing a good job obfuscating what's in their hearts by raising questions about the victim dressing scantily, her chasing after 'stars' or simply looking for attention as if it fools anyone into believing they're approaching the issue without a callous bias against the victim. Preaching to the cave.

[general_lee]

Syfarus, are you at Laganside court? Or Roscommon somewhere?

[Frank_The_Tank]

There's cavemen in this thread who are aware how toxic an issue this is so they know enough not to say "I don't really believe the rape victim". So they think they're doing a good job obfuscating what's in their hearts by raising questions about the victim dressing scantily, her chasing after 'stars' or simply looking for attention as if it fools anyone into believing they're approaching the issue without a callous bias against the victim. Preaching to the cave.

Now you know what is someone else's heart - you really are the almighty one