Peter Creedon in the firing line as Laois players acused of drinking before game

[Ball Hopper]

It's pretty bad when the manager's own club ain't even backing him.

Isn't Creedon from Tipperary?  Where does it say his club wasn't backing him?

[Armamike]

Oops, i read that wrong.

[Donnellys Hollow]

It's pretty bad when the manager's own club ain't even backing him.

Isn't Creedon from Tipperary?  Where does it say his club wasn't backing him?

He's from Roscarberry.

[seafoid]

It's where all the moody teenagers live.

It's where emojis were invented
Someone said "Emo!  Jesus!  and it was shortened to something a bit snappier.

They never concentrate on the fuball.

[Aaron Boone]

This was the job Jim McGuinness should have taken.

[stevecw]

Always the same with Laois, so many internal stupid problems every year. Drinking is a massive one, it ruined the potential of s few of their great minor teams. They famously wrecked the Leinster U-21 cup by playing a match using it as the ball back in mid 2000s after a night out.

A lot of their best players are old or retired now too. So it's a tough ask for whoever takes over.

In saying that. there is still a decent side there, if the right man takes over and they get things together. No way should they be in Div 4, they are at worst a top 4 Div 3 side.
Next manager is a massive call, and getting out of Div 4 is not as easy as anyone that falls into it thinks. Carlow, Limerick, Antrim will all fancy the 2 top places too.

[twohands!!!]

Laois players accused of drinking before games

I understand drinking before a game to mean drinking a few pints at lunchtime before a game.


Howevere, I was impressed by this delegate's on the fly Hall's Pictorial Weekly skit to liven up the proceedings.

"St Joseph's delegate Michael Moore then initially proposed that Creedon be removed from the role, but when it was pointed out that he was only appointed on a one-year term, and was not technically currently in the role, he then proposed that his term not be renewed."

A future in Irish politics beckons.

[oneflewoverthecuckoonest]

as someone who was at the county board meeting, those of you making a laugh of the proposal by Mick Moore to sack the outgoing management, an element of context is required, and the motion was in keeping with the mood of the majority of the delegates.

Some time before the discussion was opened to the floor, the county secretary gave out details of a meeting held last week between members of the executive and creedon in reviewing the dreadful year.

amongst the gems offered by creedon at that meeting included:

"He replied to queries on all matters relating to our indiscipline particularly in (the) league, stating it had resulted in a breakdown in trust with some players"


"GPS data results displayed our fitness levels to be only standard during the league, resulting in a five week block of fitness training being introduced after (the) league, which showed an improvement for championship, but levels dropped for second half performances against Kildare and Clare".

"Unaware of alleged rumours of a certain culture not befitting of an intercounty panel"

"Backroom team and their roles and acknowledged that as a management team some mistakes were made and they are aware of that".

"In reply to a query as to the future of Laois GAA football, he stated that it was his opinion that an incoming manager must make hard decisions into the composition of his panel in both retaining balance and with a view to a complete rebuilding process and youth policy, in preparing 2016/2017 minor panellists for intercounty football, and that is providing these players are willing to commit and that our pre league training programme should be structured 80% fitness and 20% coaching".

and the secretary's notes on the meeting concluded with

"It was agreed that we engage in reviews with all stakeholders and that Peter Creedon's opinion also be sought as to if he would consider continuing in role and if so, his plan for the year."


the last sentence is key, because the only Laois selector with Creedon is the county chairman's son.....said chairman, Kavanagh, is batting heavily for the retention of Creedon.



There are nuances and tones which happen at county board meeting, frequently there is tension between the executive and the club delegates.  The clear impression given between the briefing on the meeting with Creedon and the sounding from the executive was they want to retain Creedon.  It was in that context that Mick Moore tried to move his motion for dismissal, and was shot down by the smart ass answer that Creedon only had a one year term and therefore could not be sacked.  In hindsight, perhaps the easier option would have been for Moore to move a motion that Creedon and the outgoing management be excluded from consideration for 2018.

As you can see from the Creedon briefing, he had trouble with discipline, fitness and awareness of external troubles.....totally out of his depth........the fact that this gentleman has not copied the approach of Kevin Ryan(Offaly) and move aside, lends me to believe that he is just another useless gravy train manager.
The club delegates have a significant voting majority over the executive in Laois, and judged on the soundings last night, the chances of the executive getting through a second term for Creedon are nil, as at a max 2 out of the 30 odd clubs would vote to retain him.

[seafoid]

Laois had an awful year with relegation to D4 and a crap championship.

[DuffleKing]

Really?

[seafoid]

I saw somewhere else that Creedon is the county's 3rd manager in 4 years


"The meeting acknowledged that if we continue to do the same thing year in year out and appoint another manager, our fourth in five years and he discovers similar problems as the previous two outgoing managers, and we are back to square one again and another year wasted! "

It is very satisfying to get rid of a badly performing  manager and stride confidently into the future. And repeat the next year. But it usually means there is a problem that isn't the manager.

[dublin7]

I saw somewhere else that Creedon is the county's 3rd manager in 4 years


"The meeting acknowledged that if we continue to do the same thing year in year out and appoint another manager, our fourth in five years and he discovers similar problems as the previous two outgoing managers, and we are back to square one again and another year wasted! "

It is very satisfying to get rid of a badly performing  manager and stride confidently into the future. And repeat the next year. But it usually means there is a problem that isn't the manager.

Appointing him originally for only a 1 year term is hardly a ringing endorsement from the county board. I would have thought any new manager should get a 3 year term to allow to build a team. With all the managerial changes and different tactics each year is any wonder the team is struggling. No chance to put medium/long term plans in place

[Rossfan]

Time to amalgamate LaoisOffaly.

[brokencrossbar1]

Time to amalgamate LaoisOffaly.

That would be Loffaly stupid😂

[DuffleKing]

Biffois