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If Jacko was a pedo then the kids should sue their parents as well for putting them in danager. Who in their right mind would let their own kid stay over at a mans house who they barely knew.

[The whole the stinks of a money grab ploy to be honest]

To be honest i would rather rewatch the numerous trials that he was put through including an FBI investigation all of which found him not guilty instead of watching a one sided "documentary".

Try believing actual facts and evidence rather than reality tv.

I am not defending him but anyone can say things about you when your dead. People are too quick these days to believe everything they hear instead of doing some research.

Tell me this does the "documentary" answer why they supported him was he was alive and didnt sue him them?

Havent seen the documentary but i would not be rushing to believe 2 people who swore under oath that mj had not abused them while he was alive.

If you are a parent would you take 22milion over justice for your kid? The whole the stinks of a money grab ploy to be honest.

You would have to think that there are easier ways to make money than baring your soul on a documentary and exposing yourself to the worst type of online vitriol and hate from legions of single diamante glove wielding weirdoes. In fact, given the baffling vitality of his fan base, a book entitled "MJ - Cool Guy - Defo Not A Paedophile" would be a much simpler way of cashing in?

Perhaps before saying The whole the stinks of a money grab ploy to be honest you might rectify this Havent seen the documentary ?

Good man.

Havent seen the documentary but i would not be rushing to believe 2 people who swore under oath that mj had not abused them while he was alive.

If you are a parent would you take 22milion over justice for your kid? The whole the stinks of a money grab ploy to be honest.

 Wonder if that was a deliberate or as a result of the Thailand holiday. After AI final i thought Tyrone should target the league this year to give the lads some confidence. We dont seem to be targeting the league for the past few years.

Seems strange that they target the mckenna cup but not the league

Declan Bogue on off the ball today saying he'd heard from a good source that the tyrone panel were approximately 6 weeks behind last year's fitness levels at this stage. Makes sense when you see performances recently. Much better support from runners that was very poor in first two games.

Fair play Tyrone tonight. Didnt see that performance coming. If we could play like that more often it would give us hope. Well done.

It was hardly a contest. Not one tyrone supporter i talked to had any belief in winning the final. Please stop with the we got to an ai final last year. The only decent team we played on route was monaghan.

Can you honestly say if we had of played kerry or mayo in the semi final that we would have won?.

Its time to be realistic and stop blinding hoping for a miracle. We will not be close to winning an ai for at least another 4 years.

I expect Tyrone to be poor and get beat again. If thats the case the regulation is likely. Serious questions must then be asked.

The whole its only Feb or its only the league doesnt wash with me. If players cant kick the ball over the bar or win the breaking ball now then its not going to improve by June/July.

I could see past it if there was a raft of new players in the squad but this has been more or less the same squad for over 3 years now. Same problems year after year.

Dont shoot me down but I have been wondering why Dublin haven't re-developed Parnell park for a bigger capacity or built a new ground?

Does anyone know how many people need to attend croke park in order for it to make a profit. I heard years ago a figure of around 40,000 but not sure if this is true.

I would imagine there is alot of cost involved in opening it up for games where only 30,000 or so attend.

[Brolly and Dessie Dolan were almost creaming themselves last night watching the Kerry v Dubs game and saying this is how football should be played. Poor JC didn't know now whether to interrupt them and disagree with everything Joe said as before or to let them both off the leash.]

Yes i would agree with a lack of attacking plan. I cant get my head around how they think they are going to win matches without putting the ball over the bar.

You have to imagine their training is focused around defence snd retaining possession. What is the point in steve oneill? he must not be allowed too much input. Havent seen any benefit of him coming into the set up. Hes better off out of it if he is not allowed to input into attacking play. Most teams would love a player of oneills calibre coaching the forwards.

I wouldn't be holding out too much hope that this is some master plan not to peak early. This team cant even get the basics right at the minute.

Have we seen this before where we go into a new season full of hope and excitement with how good the new recruits look in the McKenna cup and talk of huge competition for places and then it all falls flat on its face.

A few weeks ago we were EXPECTING to win for the first time in a long time down in Killarney but again we are left feeling a little cheated as fans and wonder what the hell is going on.
It seems pretty obvious now that the team has no interest in fighting too hard for a win at this time of year and are just going through the motions. Our lack of an obvious Plan B has risen its head again as we continue to be very predictable and want to run with the ball all the time and then don't know how to break down a defensive blanket.

Brolly and Dessie Dolan were almost creaming themselves last night watching the Kerry v Dubs game and saying this is how football should be played. Poor JC didn't know now whether to interrupt them and disagree with everything Joe said as before or to let them both off the leash.

It seems pretty obvious from Harte's interviews and newspaper chat that he has zero interest in this league and staying up is his aim and even if we go down is it that bad.
The run last year to the AI Final probably has confirmed his beliefs about you gotta pace yourself and be more ready for July and August rather than worrying should you lose a first round match in Ulster in late May.
With what SHOULD BE two easy games v Derry and Antrim to begin with I'd say Mickey's focus is on 9th June semifinal v Fermanagh or Donegal.

I know I know I shouldn't make assumptions to beat 2 Div four teams.

Re Midfield, I thought Kennedy would be catching a lot more clean ball but I suppose this is all very new to him and he's not really had a good partner in the middle.

One big rumour indeed where we should all back off and stop digging. Do ever learn to stop adding to the bad news that follows us around and let sleeping dogs lie.

If you are being completely honest I think there is a lot to be admired with how both teams played on Saturday night. Now whilst I wasn't there at that game nor even the Tyrone game yesterday - elements may/may not have been a factor both Keane and Horan have come in this year and given their attack clear purpose, get it in there. Maybe the inside mark coming in has helped this, but you have to wonder what Harte and O'Neill are telling the tyrone players because there doesn't seem to be one player willing to be selfless and get the head up and kick in straight away. Instead it's a near obsession with safety, getting it sidewards, go back, keep the ball, slow.....My issue is there doesn't seem to be any kind of attacking plan right now. Would that be a fair enough comment?

Does anyone know what the supposed row was about? Must havebeen serious enough to still affect the team

The last 2 years have been very misleading. Yes we reached the semi final and then a final but we had easy runs. I dont recall tyrone beating Kerry, Mayo or Dublin in the later stages of an AI for a long time now. Point is we are way behind the top teams.

Theres no shame in losing but its the manner of our losses that bother me. Consistently trying to defend while we are getting beat by 3-4points. Would rather tyrone go all out and playing attacking football and get beat by 10 points than watch them defend a 3 point loss.

This is why i have for years said its time for mickey to go. Hes far too stubborn to change, watching tyrone year after year with the same issues at fault is like ground hog day.

Common question is who will replace him? My answer is who cares. So we dont win the mckenna cup big deal. With monaghan, armagh and donegal improving Tyrone wont win ulster with thr current style of play

Beginning to think your right. Even if Tyrone won the AI last year still would have wanted Harte to go. 16 years is too long for any manager especially one as stubborn as harte

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Well the good people of Tyrone voted to give harte 3 years so we are stuck with him. I've a feeling he will be there alot longer than the 3 years. He has the whole thing sewn up.
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While it is very early days yet the signs are great for Tyrone. I believed last year we had an easy path to the final which glossed over the issues. We wont get anywhere near it this year if we meet any of the top 4 teams.

Still cant believe we are starting this year with the same issues as the last 5 years. No class forwards, no free taker etc.

On a separate note is this hartes last year in terms of contract?

Very measured and balance interview from Canavan. 8 officials at the game deemed it accidental. 26 cards yes, but 6 players picked up 18 of these, 2 yellows and a red. I'm pretty sure a Stewartstown player picked up a worse injury than Sean and spent the night in hospital. I don't see his pic on twitter though. anyone seen it?

In defence of Sean which I dont normally do, people are getting carried away with this thing of "oh he put it on social media, he's looking attention", in his defence he was probably receiving hundreds of get well soon messages and I know i wouldnt be arsed replying back to all of them adn it would take forever,  the best thing to do is let everyone know you are ok with a post on his page and to say he appreciate's all the messages etc etc
Also he's not the first man to do this, ive seen instances of this before this season with footballers getting hurt in a game and going to social media to let everyone know he's ok, it is social media,thats the point of social media!!!! I dont like namin g people but one example is Carson of Greencastle, in this instance Gallagher (and rightly so) took the barage of the abuse for his actions and Carson none and rightly so, who we all wished him a speedy recovery, but in big Seans situation the majority are calling him names and all sorts because he put it on social media, weather or not it was accidental or intentional, at the end of the day he was concussed, broke his nose and had a suspected broken jaw and to be honest I had heard there was more damage so im glad he put up the post to correct everyone and let us know the damage and that he was ok again!!

If sean had of cleaned the dry blood of his face it wouldnt have looked as bad.  Attention seeking at his best.  There is no chance of Sean slipping away into the background once his county career is over.

Did you see the swelling on his face?? I imagine his face would have been quite sore to touch. Im sure you would have just wiped the blood away and cracked on with it.

I am curious to know myself. I am 100% certin that cathal would hsve gotten a lot of abuse on thr football pitch. Drew has a right to be upset but only if he has never sledged anyone himself before. If he has then he shouldnt be complaining.

While brolly is  a muppet it is difficult to argue with him. I myself thought harte should have walked away with a great rep around 20011/2012. I do think he is past it  and for me he is only damaging his rep the longer he stays. Just my opinon but think Tyrone will bd a better team a few years after he steps down.