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Why would Tyrone or Donegal want to draw their games?

No downside to either team if they draw...or their opponents either.  In neutral venues, Tyrone and Donegal would probably be tipped to win.  Since Kerry and Mayo  have the home advantage, that couple of points swing might make a very tight margin in the end.  Throw the price of a pint on both games ending level and go home a half hour earlier on Saturday night and Sunday night could be enjoyable.  I see 15/2 for each game to end level by the way.

Kerry 1-6 Cork 0-3 at half time.

The permutations going into the last round are fascinating.
At the end of the Tyrone v Mayo match I more or less had given up hope of making the final as Donegal were beating Monaghan. However with that match ending in a draw it has left several different permutations possible.

The big one as a Tyrone fan is that Donegal are away to Mayo who could still get relegated.
Should Cavan beat Roscommon they go onto 6 points level with Mayo so should Mayo lose and Kerry draw or win then Mayo will go down as they will be level on points with Cavan but Cavan beat them. This hopefully will give Mayo a huge incentive not to lose to Donegal.

Should Tyrone draw in Kerry then they would be level on 8 points with Donegal and Monaghan (should they lose to Dublin) with a score difference of 10. So if Donegal lose by 2 or less they would go through to the final, otherwise Tyrone will.

If Monaghan win they go through no matter what.

There are lots of other permutations as well such as Dublin beat Monaghan, Donegal draw with Mayo and Tyrone beat Kerry so Donegal and Tyrone would be level on 9 points but Donegal go through as they beat Tyrone head to head.However, if Donegal and Monaghan draw and Tyrone win by 3 or more then Tyrone go through to the final.

If both Donegal and Monaghan win then both go through to the final and the Dubs are out
Roscommon and Kerry are the only teams that don't have much to play for.

Got the important bits there Fuzzman.  A few very longshots exist...Mayo could make the final or be relegated depending on results and margin of victories.

Will Monaghan want to beat Dublin, with the prize being a rematch the following week if Mayo beat or draw with Donegal? 

How many draws next week for the cynical amongst us?  Mayo/Donegal and Kerry/Tyrone?  What odds that double?

Made for a draw.

[Kerry 6 66]

Team   P   +/-   Pts.

Dublin 6   40   9
Donegal 6   12   8
Monaghan 6   6   8
Tyrone 6   10   7
Mayo 6   -5   6
Kerry 6   66
Cavan 6   -20   4
Roscommon 6   -49   0

So Roscommon are gone, Mayo or Cavan most likely to follow - cavan need to win to have a chance, mayo need to get something against Donegal to be safe although with a loss, it'd come down to points difference if kerry were to also lose; a draw/win for kerry in that situation would send us down. Kerry in theory could go down but they'd need to get hammered by Tyrone (12 points I think) to do so. I think either our game or Cavan's will be a draw to keep us up

At the top, anyone of the top 6 could make the final in theory but if I were a betting man, I'd go for Dublin & Donegal.

So Kerry are the on the devil's number.  Some, like Fear OSB, will say it has been that way for years.

Where does the name Cuala come from?

This wikipedia knows just about everything!!!

As referenced in the book A dictionary of Celtic mythology by James MacKillop, "Cuala was the name of the former territory in Leinster from the river Liffey to Arklow, roughly coextensive with modern County Wicklow, including the celebrated monastic centre of Glendalough. The area takes its name from the Cualainn, an early people who were there in Ptolemy's time (2nd century AD). Crích Cualann is the district of Cualu. Slí Chualann is the way or the road to Cualu."

Very sophisticated name for a GAA club.
Sure beats St Mary's

Teacher influence rather than parish priest I presume.

What's Cabhan an Chaorthainn in English?

Pomeroy, you incorrigible anglophone!

My brother lives at Altmore and his sons used to play for Pomeroy. I'd have to give the benefit of the doubt to Farrandeelin because I didn't know either.

More from wikipedia giving a better answer:

Cavanakeeran (Irish: Cabhan an Chaorthainn (Hill of the rowan tree) is a townland in County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. It is situated in the historic barony of Dungannon Middle and the civil parish of Pomeroy and covers an area of 894 acres.

The town of Pomeroy itself is situated in Cavanakeeran.

Where does the name Cuala come from?

This wikipedia knows just about everything!!!

As referenced in the book A dictionary of Celtic mythology by James MacKillop, "Cuala was the name of the former territory in Leinster from the river Liffey to Arklow, roughly coextensive with modern County Wicklow, including the celebrated monastic centre of Glendalough. The area takes its name from the Cualainn, an early people who were there in Ptolemy's time (2nd century AD). Crích Cualann is the district of Cualu. Slí Chualann is the way or the road to Cualu."

And so the year ends for club players.  Congratulations to all the winners and all the participants.

And the next year begins if it hasn't already.

Many County Leagues started already?  Kerry had their first round this weekend past (Dr. Crokes were granted a postponement).

[Senior Football]

And so the year ends for club players.  Congratulations to all the winners and all the participants.

Senior Football

Feb 11:  Dr. Crokes (Kerry)  2-11 Corofin (Galway) 0-8; Slaughtneil (Derry) 0-12 St. Vincents (Dublin) 0-10
March 17: Final Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-9 Slaughtneil (Derry) 1-7 

Intermediate Football

Jan 29: Westport (Mayo) 1-10 Kenmare (Kerry) 0-11 AET; St. Colmcilles (Meath) 3-11 Pomeroy (Tyrone) 2-13
Feb 19: Final - Westport (Mayo) 2-12 St. Colmcilles (Meath) 3-8

Junior Football

Jan 29: Glenbeigh/Glencar (Kerry)  4-14 Louisburgh (Mayo) 0-13; Rock St. Patricks (Tyrone) 1-18 Dunedin Connolly's (Edinburgh) 2-6
Feb 19: Final - Glenbeigh/Glencar (Kerry) 1-14  Rock St. Patricks (Tyrone)  1-11

Senior Hurling

Feb 4: Ballyea (Clare) 1-19 St. Thomas (Galway) 2-14
Feb 25: Cuala (Dublin) 3-21 Slaughtneil (Derry) 2-11
March 17: Final Cuala (Dublin) 2-19 Ballyea (Clare) 1-10 

Intermediate Hurling

Jan 29: Ath Eascrach/Fothaine Ahascragh/Fohenagh (near Ballinasloe in Galway) 1-17 v Lismore (Waterford) 0-13; Carrickshock (Kilkenny) 0-18 v Robert Emmetts (London) 1-9
Feb 18: Final - Carrickshock (Kilkenny) 2-15 Ath Eascrach/Fothaine Ahascragh/Fohenagh (Galway) 0-6

Junior Hurling

Jan 29: Mayfield (Cork) 1-14 Calry/St. Josephs (Sligo) 1-7; Mooncoin (Kilkenny) 5-11  v Lamh Dearg (Antrim) 0-8
Feb 18: Final - Mayfield (Cork) 2-16 Mooncoin (Kilkenny) 1-18

So what will happen when it all goes away? Where will we go then?  Back to our respective county websites I suppose.

Out of curiosity, what sites did you frequent before here?  I started on the clarehurlers forum, followed by An Fear Rua then here. 

[Ball hopper, you need to get out more,]

NCAA College Basketball's March Madness starts today.  Probably the top sports tournament in the world...agree or disagree?

Wouldn't make the top 100 for me. Rather watch world series tiddlywinks. Still better than rugby though.

Ball hopper, you need to get out more, top flight rugby is tremendous, as for March Madness, absolutely brilliant theatre, among the best sporting event on the planet.

What brings you to that conclusion?

Watched the Tipp/KK league game last night...cracking stuff.  The ref played a good role in letting them at it - play with intensity but without malice.

League hurling is reaping the rewards of improved playing surfaces...or is the weather that good this past while?

League hurling is reaping the rewards of intense league structures where every game matters and yet the d**kheads want to go and change it.

Is there a proposal to change the league? Jaysus this was one of the great success stories I thought?

Limerick are never happy with the league format

Only 5 hurling league games makes every game important...and proper order.  The football wisdom is that Cavan and Roscommon were doomed from the beginning and it looks that way, add in the fact they meet each other in Rd 7 will give us the ultimate dead-rubber if results go against both between here and then.

Hard to say who will be in the relegation playoff from the hurling, even after 4 games, although Dublin look to be worst off. The loser of Clare/Waterford would seem to be most likely to playoff with Dublin at this stage.  Of course, if Dublin manage to beat KK in Parnell Park, everything will change drastically.

Watched the Tipp/KK league game last night...cracking stuff.  The ref played a good role in letting them at it - play with intensity but without malice.

League hurling is reaping the rewards of improved playing surfaces...or is the weather that good this past while?

NCAA College Basketball's March Madness starts today.  Probably the top sports tournament in the world...agree or disagree?