Jim Gavin joins up with Mickey Harte

Started by seafoid, February 14, 2018, 02:15:54 PM

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southtyronegael

anyone see mickey hartes interview on bbc last night after mc kenna cup final? looks like a bbc boycott could be on the way too..

skeog

Mark Sidebottom s... the togs when MH tore into him great viewing

southtyronegael

at least sidebottom had the balls in his togs to ask the questions that needed to be asked. fair play to him. pity a few tyrone journalists couldnt do the same.


Hotrocks

Embarrassing stuff from Harte.  He should send forward Horse or O Neill to speak if he can't handle being questioned.

tonto1888

Quote from: Hotrocks on February 19, 2018, 08:59:13 AM
Embarrassing stuff from Harte.  He should send forward Horse or O Neill to speak if he can't handle being questioned.

I don't think it was and I wouldn't be a defender of his. I think he was spot on with his replies

OgraAnDun

Quote from: tonto1888 on February 19, 2018, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: Hotrocks on February 19, 2018, 08:59:13 AM
Embarrassing stuff from Harte.  He should send forward Horse or O Neill to speak if he can't handle being questioned.

I don't think it was and I wouldn't be a defender of his. I think he was spot on with his replies

I have to agree with you on this one. I think Sidebottom asked a question that needed to be asked - one win from three in the league and a McKenna Cup final defeat also (I am aware that they won 4 games to get there) - the press are within their rights to ask if a change in system will be needed to win more games. Likewise Harte answered the questions well enough, he was a bit p*ssed off but nothing too bad.

Taylor

What exactly did Harte say that was embarrassing?

At least it wasnt the cliche BS other managers come out with

naka

Quote from: easytiger95 on February 16, 2018, 10:38:16 AM
very curious story - the Dublin v Tyrone game is broadcast live on Eir, so if they wanted a DVD of the high behind camera it would be Eir they would be asking (and it is a very standard request - most IC teams look for it when they are playing a live TV fixture).

I'd say this is garbled up a bit - maybe it relates to DVD provision during last year's championship, because it makes no sense as Eir and TG4 are the rights holders.

would eir not have charged them

Knock Yer Mucker In

The hypocrisy from some posters from Tyrone is disgusting. Criticising Harte for not sending anyone to defend Tyrone on RTE, allowing braodcasters to say what they want without anyone from Tyrone to defend their honour. Then he sticks up for Tyrone, saying that he see's many other teams play in a very similar to Tyrone but are never question to the extent Tyrone are quizzed. So as a result he gets bad manners from the same in house Tyrone critics. make sense of that ffs

BennyCake

Tyrone might be good enough to win ulster again but they won't win the AI unless they tweak their system. That's what Sidey was inferring.

If Tyrone are whooped by Dublin again in this years semi playing the exact same system, is Sidey going to get his head ripped off by Harte for asking the same question in 2019?

BennyHarp

A bit of sense being talked by Darren Hughes in the Irish News....

MONAGHAN midfielder Darren Hughes believes the criticism aimed at Tyrone has been unfair, insisting the Red Hands shouldn't be judged solely on "one bad day at the office".

Mickey Harte's men found themselves in the firing line after last summer's harrowing All-Ireland semi-final defeat to Dublin, and the Tyrone boss recently hit out at those who claim they play an overly defensive brand of football.

The Red Hands travel to Castleblayney on Saturday to take on Monaghan in a dress rehearsal ahead of their May 20 Ulster Championship showdown.

And Farney powerhouse Hughes admits he has been surprised at the level of criticism aimed at the reigning provincial kingpins in the aftermath of that Dublin defeat

"Tyrone are getting a lot of flak but in the Ulster Championship last year, there wasn't a team that laid a glove on them," said the Scotstown man.

"If you counted up their average winning margins up until they got to the semi-final against Dublin, Tyrone weren't doing too much wrong.

"They won the Ulster Championship at a canter and it was probably to their detriment going to play Dublin in the semi-final because they hadn't been tested. After 15 minutes they didn't know where to go, but the criticism has been harsh on them.

"I've seen us getting criticised before when we've been winning Ulster Championships... you do what you have to do to win. When Tyrone were shooting out the lights last summer, nobody could touch them. I don't know what more you can expect.

"Tyrone had one bad day at the office – anybody can get caught cold. Sure Dublin had us beat after 20 minutes too. It was the same thing. They get the run on you and that's just it.

"You're trying to devise different systems and changes to come up against them but they just keep coming at you. That's why they're the benchmark for us all.

"Everybody's on about the top three or four; it doesn't really matter unless you're in the top one."

Monaghan made it two wins in-a-row with a morale-boosting victory over Kerry in Inniskeen on Sunday, holding off a late fightback to build upon their previous success in Kildare.

Hughes forced two turnovers in quick succession early on as the Farneymen swarmed the Kingdom's short kick-outs, and a flying start saw four points up inside five minutes.

"We didn't specifically target them [Kerry's kick-outs]. We wanted to eliminate, as best as possible, the short kick-out option and force them long.

"The fact you can't kick it inside the 20 metre line now, we actually got one of them, so you try and get a bit of heat on. It's not always possible but it takes a very precise kick to get it to a corner back now.

"We said before that we wanted a good start but we finished up with 1-13, so we got nearly a quarter of our points in the first five minutes.

"But here, with Kerry travelling you wanted to take any advantage of any possible lapse in concentration. That start gave us a bit of a cushion to work off for the rest of the game."

Another two points this weekend would almost certainly secure their Division One status, while simultaneously heaping pressure on their Ulster rivals.

Although Hughes is quick to dismiss any motion of psychological edges being lost or gained ahead of that Ulster Championship date.

"Not really – it'll be forgot about on Sunday probably," sad Hughes, whose brother Kieran could come back into the fold against the Red Hands.

"It's only a League game at the end of the day. It's a long time until summer, a lot of work to do, a lot of men to come in, a lot of games to play."

That was never a square ball!!

trileacman

He has a fair point. We were the most successful team in Ulster last year and run up scores against any of the challengers. Now I'm not expecting plaudits but if the suggestion is that we played badly and below ourselves last year then Down, Armagh, Donegal and Derry must have been absolutely f**king tragic. Hartes getting a lot of flak for being tactically naive and behind the times but if you believe that then how far back are mcgeeney, Gallagher, o rourke and burns if they can't get within touching distance of them??
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lenny

Quote from: Taylor on February 19, 2018, 03:30:00 PM
What exactly did Harte say that was embarrassing?

At least it wasnt the cliche BS other managers come out with

It's not so much what he said as the fact he was so rattled. He has been composure personified for years but suddenly he is getting easily rattled over innocent enough questioning.

BennyCake

Quote from: trileacman on February 20, 2018, 08:41:04 PM
He has a fair point. We were the most successful team in Ulster last year and run up scores against any of the challengers. Now I'm not expecting plaudits but if the suggestion is that we played badly and below ourselves last year then Down, Armagh, Donegal and Derry must have been absolutely f**king tragic. Hartes getting a lot of flak for being tactically naive and behind the times but if you believe that then how far back are mcgeeney, Gallagher, o rourke and burns if they can't get within touching distance of them??

Bar Donegal, everyone expected Tyrone to beat Derry Down and Armagh fairly handy (5-10 points). But not Dublin. It's naive of Harte to think he can beat them playing the same system (ie. with 1 forward). Sidey was merely asking what the rest of us are thinking.