The IRISH RUGBY thread

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Syferus

Quote from: johnneycool on February 22, 2018, 12:06:34 PM
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Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2018, 02:59:24 PM
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Quote from: johnneycool on February 21, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
Wales name a stronger team than the one that took England to the wire;

Wales (v Ireland) - L Halfpenny (Scarlets); L Williams (Saracens), S Williams, H Parkes, S Evans (all Scarlets); D Biggar (Ospreys), G Davies; R Evans, K Owens, S Lee (all Scarlets); C Hill (Dragons), AW Jones (Ospreys); A Shingler (Scarlets), J Navidi (Cardiff), R Moriarty (Gloucester). Reps: E Dee (Dragons), W Jones (Scarlets), T Francis (Exeter), B Davies, J Tipuric (both Ospreys), A Davies (Scarlets), G Anscombe (Cardiff), G North (Northampton).

I can see Ireland lose this one if Ireland don't open Wales up and score a try or two. Crash ball isn't going to work.

Wales are toothless.

That's what the Scots thought and the English were lucky the TMO was on their side. I'd say you youtube Liam Williams before you make comments about how toothless the Welsh might be.

Wales didn't convert any of about ten trips into England's 22. Their best chance came off a ball that randomly hit a lad's knee and spilled over the try line.

If beating Scotland is your evidence of Wales being able to put big points on us, lord.. we could well win this one with a single try as our defence is fully capable of smothering them.

The absolute arrogance.

Just a tad.

Also,
    England for all their faults have a pretty mean defence and a lot of teams have camped on their 22 and ended up with nothing.

Schmidt's entire philosophy has been couched on quaility defense, in case you or the fella you quoted somehow missed it over the last five years.

seafoid

Ireland have beaten Wales once in the last 5 meetings per the IT. I think they will need a big improvement from the French match.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Syferus on February 22, 2018, 02:37:07 PM
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Quote from: johnneycool on February 21, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
Wales name a stronger team than the one that took England to the wire;

Wales (v Ireland) - L Halfpenny (Scarlets); L Williams (Saracens), S Williams, H Parkes, S Evans (all Scarlets); D Biggar (Ospreys), G Davies; R Evans, K Owens, S Lee (all Scarlets); C Hill (Dragons), AW Jones (Ospreys); A Shingler (Scarlets), J Navidi (Cardiff), R Moriarty (Gloucester). Reps: E Dee (Dragons), W Jones (Scarlets), T Francis (Exeter), B Davies, J Tipuric (both Ospreys), A Davies (Scarlets), G Anscombe (Cardiff), G North (Northampton).

I can see Ireland lose this one if Ireland don't open Wales up and score a try or two. Crash ball isn't going to work.

Wales are toothless.

That's what the Scots thought and the English were lucky the TMO was on their side. I'd say you youtube Liam Williams before you make comments about how toothless the Welsh might be.

Wales didn't convert any of about ten trips into England's 22. Their best chance came off a ball that randomly hit a lad's knee and spilled over the try line.

If beating Scotland is your evidence of Wales being able to put big points on us, lord.. we could well win this one with a single try as our defence is fully capable of smothering them.

The absolute arrogance.

Just a tad.

Also,
    England for all their faults have a pretty mean defence and a lot of teams have camped on their 22 and ended up with nothing.

Schmidt's entire philosophy has been couched on quaility defense, in case you or the fella you quoted somehow missed it over the last five years.

Wales have been very good at beating Ireland, if you somehow missed it over the last five years.

Only a fool would write Wales and especially Gatland off, he still hates Ireland. They'll be up for this. This will be nothing but a hard fought win, if that.

magpie seanie

Quote from: oakleaflad on February 22, 2018, 01:44:28 PM
Ireland team to face Wales

Ireland: Rob Kearney; Keith Earls, Chris Farrell, Bundi Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray; Cian Healy, Rory Best (C), Andrew Porter; James Ryan, Devin Toner; Peter O'Mahony, Dan Leavy, CJ Stander.

Reps: Sean Cronin, Jack McGrath, John Ryan, Quinn Roux, Jack Conan, Kieran Marmion, Joey Carberry, Fergus McFadden.

It's Bundee Aki.

AZOffaly

Chris Farrell has had a bit of a meteoric rise. Or maybe more of a 'rebound'. Playing in France probably didn't help his Irish prospects. I have to say, watching him for Munster, he just seems to be a journeyman centre. I wouldn't have marked him down as an international. He has size, and is decent with ball in hand, but he's not a lad you'd see walking into the Leinster back line.

mouview

Where's Larmour, the next big thing?

magpie seanie


Syferus

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Quote from: mouview on February 22, 2018, 03:22:25 PM
Where's Larmour, the next big thing?

His defensive ineptitude when he came on against Italy means he's now further from the team than he was before it. It's hard to argue that he isn't a liability in Schmidt's system where tries are rare at either end in big games.

AZOffaly

Quote from: Syferus on February 22, 2018, 03:34:08 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 22, 2018, 03:22:25 PM
Where's Larmour, the next big thing?

His defensive ineptitude when he came on against Italy means he's now further from the team than he was before it. It's hard to argue that he isn't a liability in Schmidt's system where tries are rare at either end in big games.

that's what screwed Zebo for years under Joe. He was a defensive liability. In fairness Joe told him so, and he worked hard on that aspect. Became a lot more solid.

Joe still doesn't like his laissez faire attitude and the Z though :)

seafoid

Quote from: magpie seanie on February 22, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on February 22, 2018, 01:44:28 PM
Ireland team to face Wales

Ireland: Rob Kearney; Keith Earls, Chris Farrell, Bundi Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray; Cian Healy, Rory Best (C), Andrew Porter; James Ryan, Devin Toner; Peter O'Mahony, Dan Leavy, CJ Stander.

Reps: Sean Cronin, Jack McGrath, John Ryan, Quinn Roux, Jack Conan, Kieran Marmion, Joey Carberry, Fergus McFadden.

It's Bundee Aki.
Up Connacht
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

johnneycool

Quote from: Syferus on February 22, 2018, 02:37:07 PM
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Quote from: johnneycool on February 21, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
Wales name a stronger team than the one that took England to the wire;

Wales (v Ireland) - L Halfpenny (Scarlets); L Williams (Saracens), S Williams, H Parkes, S Evans (all Scarlets); D Biggar (Ospreys), G Davies; R Evans, K Owens, S Lee (all Scarlets); C Hill (Dragons), AW Jones (Ospreys); A Shingler (Scarlets), J Navidi (Cardiff), R Moriarty (Gloucester). Reps: E Dee (Dragons), W Jones (Scarlets), T Francis (Exeter), B Davies, J Tipuric (both Ospreys), A Davies (Scarlets), G Anscombe (Cardiff), G North (Northampton).

I can see Ireland lose this one if Ireland don't open Wales up and score a try or two. Crash ball isn't going to work.

Wales are toothless.

That's what the Scots thought and the English were lucky the TMO was on their side. I'd say you youtube Liam Williams before you make comments about how toothless the Welsh might be.

Wales didn't convert any of about ten trips into England's 22. Their best chance came off a ball that randomly hit a lad's knee and spilled over the try line.

If beating Scotland is your evidence of Wales being able to put big points on us, lord.. we could well win this one with a single try as our defence is fully capable of smothering them.

The absolute arrogance.

Just a tad.

Also,
    England for all their faults have a pretty mean defence and a lot of teams have camped on their 22 and ended up with nothing.

Schmidt's entire philosophy has been couched on quaility defense, in case you or the fella you quoted somehow missed it over the last five years.

It may well be his philosophy and Ireland are good at it, but England are better at it.

trileacman

Quote from: AZOffaly on February 22, 2018, 03:20:35 PM
Chris Farrell has had a bit of a meteoric rise. Or maybe more of a 'rebound'. Playing in France probably didn't help his Irish prospects. I have to say, watching him for Munster, he just seems to be a journeyman centre. I wouldn't have marked him down as an international. He has size, and is decent with ball in hand, but he's not a lad you'd see walking into the Leinster back line.

He has size, you should have stopped your pondering there. Sadly physicality is now 70% of rugby.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

magpie seanie

Quote from: johnneycool on February 22, 2018, 04:31:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 22, 2018, 02:37:07 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 22, 2018, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 22, 2018, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2018, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 21, 2018, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2018, 02:09:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 21, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
Wales name a stronger team than the one that took England to the wire;

Wales (v Ireland) - L Halfpenny (Scarlets); L Williams (Saracens), S Williams, H Parkes, S Evans (all Scarlets); D Biggar (Ospreys), G Davies; R Evans, K Owens, S Lee (all Scarlets); C Hill (Dragons), AW Jones (Ospreys); A Shingler (Scarlets), J Navidi (Cardiff), R Moriarty (Gloucester). Reps: E Dee (Dragons), W Jones (Scarlets), T Francis (Exeter), B Davies, J Tipuric (both Ospreys), A Davies (Scarlets), G Anscombe (Cardiff), G North (Northampton).

I can see Ireland lose this one if Ireland don't open Wales up and score a try or two. Crash ball isn't going to work.

Wales are toothless.

That's what the Scots thought and the English were lucky the TMO was on their side. I'd say you youtube Liam Williams before you make comments about how toothless the Welsh might be.

Wales didn't convert any of about ten trips into England's 22. Their best chance came off a ball that randomly hit a lad's knee and spilled over the try line.

If beating Scotland is your evidence of Wales being able to put big points on us, lord.. we could well win this one with a single try as our defence is fully capable of smothering them.

The absolute arrogance.

Just a tad.

Also,
    England for all their faults have a pretty mean defence and a lot of teams have camped on their 22 and ended up with nothing.

Schmidt's entire philosophy has been couched on quaility defense, in case you or the fella you quoted somehow missed it over the last five years.

It may well be his philosophy and Ireland are good at it, but England are better at it.

Yes and we criticise England for being so boring and sterile yet laud Schmidt as a tactical messiah. Can't have it both ways.

Syferus

Given we beat them handily last year and have won two of the last four Six Nations it's very questionable if they're better at anything than we are..

magpie seanie

The IRB rankings suggest otherwise.