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Title: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2006, 09:10:06 AM
Sorry O'Neill, thought you would have had this up already...

Pretty confident about Sunday, as I think Liverpool will struggle to score against us...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on November 10, 2006, 11:13:21 AM
Liverpool will struggle without sissoko. The gunners need to start with Adebyor and stop trying to make every goal "the perfect goal". With Eboue & Senderos back fit, it gives them a lot more options at the back
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2006, 10:16:36 PM
Liverpool are on a bit of a role, something like 5-6 wins. However, Arsenal are sure to be aware that anything other than 3 points may leave them with too much to do already. Does Adebayor get the nod over Van Persie? As someone said earlier the Togo striker is not afraid to score an ugly goal.

Some BBC facts:

ARSENAL and Liverpool may both be going well in the Champions League and have qualified for the quarter-finals of the League Cup, but the pair are well off the pace in the Premiership as they prepare to go head-to-head at the Emirates Stadium.

The Gunners are second in the Premiership's "Last Six Current Form" table, despite last Sunday's shock defeat by West Ham and the much publicised touch-line spat between the managers. But they're defending an unbeaten home League record, and manager Arsene Wenger has not seen his side suffer back-to-back Premiership defeats in over nine months. The last five Premiership clashes between Arsenal and Liverpool have been won by the club playing at home. The Gunners prevailed 2-1 most recently in March, when an error by Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard allowed Thierry Henry to score his second, and the winner, in a dramatic finish at Highbury.

LIVERPOOL notched a fifth successive win and a third clean sheet in a row in all competitions with Wednesday's 0-1 victory at Birmingham in the Carling Cup. They now make their first ever visit to the Emirates Stadium eager to add to successive home League victories over Aston Villa and Reading, but have not claimed nine points out of nine since closing last season with nine victories in a row.

The Reds' away form in the Premiership this season has been poor. They've managed just one point out of a possible 15 from an opening day 1-1 draw at newly promoted Sheffield United, and have not scored in four games on the road since. Indeed they are yet to net from open play on their League travels this season.

The Merseysiders have not taken maximum points away from Arsenal in six attempts and only once in eight visits. Titi Camara was on target in the 0-1 triumph on 13 February 2000.

REFEREE

Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear)


SEQUENCES/RECENT FORM


ARSENAL
Club stats
Fixtures
Going into the weekend: 6th 18 points
(all statistics are ahead of this weekend's round of Premiership fixtures)

1. Chasing a sixth victory of this Premiership season, but the last three League games have resulted in a win, a draw and a defeat, in that order.

2. Lost one of the last eight in the Premier League (1-0, away to West Ham, last time out). The game at Upton Park is also the only occasion in the eight games when Arsenal have failed to score.

3. Not conceded more than a single goal in any League game this term.

4. Conceded just six League goals this season - that's one every two and half hours of Premiership football played, on average.

5. Hold 100% Premiership records when scoring first (won four of four) and when keeping clean sheets (won four of four).

6. Arsenal and Fulham have gained more points from losing positions in Premiership matches this season than any other clubs. Both have picked up six points from games in which they were behind. The Gunners showed their resilience by winning at Charlton and drawing at home to Aston Villa, Middlesbrough and Everton.

7. Not lost successive Premiership matches in 21 games, since beaten away to Liverpool and home to Blackburn on 14 and 25 February, respectively.

8. Unbeaten in 12 home Premiership games. Won seven and drawn five at home since a 2-3 loss to West Ham on 1 February (won two and drawn three this season).

9. Arsenal are home to Newcastle, before they host Hamburg in the Champions League.

LIVERPOOL
Club stats
Fixtures
Going into the weekend: 8th 17 points
(all statistics are ahead of this weekend's round of Premiership fixtures)

1. Won the last five against Reading (h, Carling Cup), Aston Villa (h, PL), Bordeaux (h, CL), Reading (h, PL) and Birmingham (a, Carling Cup).

2. Chasing a sixth Premiership victory of the season.

3. Hold 100% Premiership records when scoring first (won four of four) and when keeping clean sheets (won three of three).

4. Gone 21 top flight matches without a goalless draw, since the home clash with Charlton on 4 March.

5. Failed to score in five of the last seven away from home, in all competitions.

6. Gained just one point on the road, since ending the last League season with a 1-3 triumph at Portsmouth on 7 May.

7. Another away game follows this, at Middlesbrough, before PSV Eindhoven come to Anfield for a Champions League group match.

KEY PLAYER NOTES/POTENTIAL MILESTONES


ARSENAL
Squad profiles

Thierry HENRY is Arsenal's top scorer with six goals, five in the Premiership.

Henry has scored eight goals in 11 Premiership appearances against Liverpool, including a hat-trick at Highbury on 9 April 2004.

Jens LEHMANN, Cesc FABREGAS and Kolo TOURE have been on the pitch for every minute of Arsenal's Premiership matches this season.

If he plays, Lehmann will be playing the day after turning 37.

LIVERPOOL
Squad profiles

Peter CROUCH is Liverpool's top scorer with eight goals.

If he plays, Crouch will be making his 200th career League appearance (QPR, Portsmouth, Aston Villa, Norwich, Southampton and Liverpool).

Jose Manuel REINA is the only remaining player to have figured in every minute of the Reds' Premiership matches this season.

Jermaine PENNANT made his League debut for Arsenal.

Craig BELLAMY is a hat-trick shy of 50 Premier League goals (Coventry, Newcastle, Blackburn and Liverpool).

LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME

Arsenal 2-1 Liverpool
12 March 2006 - Ref: Steve Bennett
Arsenal scorers: Henry 21, 83
Liverpool scorer: Luis Garcia 76
Sent Off: Alonso (Liverpool) 81

HEAD TO HEAD TOTALS

Home and away
League: Arsenal 57 wins, Liverpool 67, Draws 40
Prem: Arsenal 8 wins, Liverpool 13, Draws 7

at Arsenal only
League: Arsenal 36 wins, Liverpool 20, Draws 26
Prem: Arsenal 5 wins, Liverpool 5, Draws 4

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 10, 2006, 10:31:01 PM
Glad to see this one up and running,

Always a good read on the other board! 

Up the Gunners!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2006, 10:47:07 PM
What's going on with Wenger?

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SULKING Arsene Wenger has cancelled his usual Friday Press conference — for the first time in 10 years.

The Gunners boss is still refusing to talk after being charged with improper conduct by the FA.

Wenger stormed away from Upton Park without comment after his touchline bust-up with West Ham’s Alan Pardew during the 1-0 defeat. He also failed to speak to the media after the 1-0 Carling Cup win at Everton on Wednesday.

Now the moaning monsieur has extended his vow of silence and is not even talking to the club’s official website.

Today’s boycott will be the first time since Wenger took charge at Arsenal in 1996 he has not spoken before a big home match.

And club officials cannot guarantee their manager will speak after Sunday’s clash with Liverpool at the Emirates Stadium.

As Wenger’s lips remained sealed, it was left to Fulham’s Chris Coleman and Watford’s Aidy Boothroyd to jump to the defence of feuding bosses.

Coleman insisted the FA must be careful not to take the passion out of football.

He said: “Fans want their managers to show passion.

“It would be impossible for me not to celebrate a goal. I’ve found myself standing three yards on to the pitch after we have scored and could not even tell you how I got there.

“What we saw at West Ham was a manager who was under pressure and another who was disappointed that a couple of decisions didn’t go his way. It was understandable.”

Coleman said that Manchester United chief Alex Ferguson was the one boss he would not like to upset.

He said: “The hardest manager in the Premiership? There is only one hard man — and he’s a Scot.”

Boothroyd believes the FA should stop wasting money charging bosses and use it where it matters.

He said: “They should spend more time on the grassroots and educating coaches — and stop messing about with small things.”



Gilberto says:

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There were no problems with Mr Wenger and the players because the problem didn't involve the players. But the situation left us scared. We know the manager and we know that he is very polite and calm. Something very bad had happened to make him react like he did. After the game, Mr Wenger didn't talk to anyone. As it wasn't a problem involving the players, he decided not to discuss it with us.

"I have seen it on TV many times, and when West Ham scored Pardew came to our bench to celebrate, but in an offensive way. That made Wenger react how he did, and that is why he had to talk to Pardew about that celebration.

"He was p***ed off about the way he celebrated and, as i said, that was the reason he reacted that way. As I saw it on TV, Pardew said some words that he, as a manager, should have thought about before saying. He should have showed a little more respect. Of course, he could celebrate the goal, but not in the offensive way he did. That is what made Mr Wenger react."


Can it be that AW is simply embarrassed? I don't get it....the media didn't cause this. He was shunning them (on Sunday) long before they had written a word.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 11, 2006, 11:47:33 AM
arsenal are going through a stage where they cant score but are making chance after chance. every goal has to be a thing of beauty, they need adebayor playing, he doesnt care if he scores with his head or his arse as long as it crosses the line. thierry, cesc etc need to realise that a goal is a goal wether its from 30 yards or 2yard own goal. i have a feeling some team is going to get a thrashing (as in 5-0) very soon. cant see it being liverpool but i do think we'll beat them 3-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 11, 2006, 12:01:27 PM
I remember Arsenal going through stages like this before, and it came good before too much was made of it. Liverpool at home would be a good team to beat to put it behind us.

BTW Paddy Power has RVP @ 6's or Rosicky @ 8's to be tomorrow's first scorer. Worth a fiver maybe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2006, 01:02:10 PM
I see it's Liverpool v Arsenal in the Carling Cup as well. Asking the reserves to beat Everton was tough enough, but the Reds might be a Mersey journey too far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 11, 2006, 01:10:41 PM
Mmmm. you're probably right O'Neill, and I can't see Wenger playing a more senior side as his outlook in the league cup has always been to experiment with the younger guys, something not many Premiership side would entertain.

A win over the "Pool" tomorrow would be enough for me, we need to get the league campaign underway before the others are out of sight  :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2006, 05:32:06 PM
I believe Rosicky pulled up in training. A pity, as he was starting to shine as an attacking force.
Title: Goons 3 Liverpool 0
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2006, 07:09:29 PM
Surprisingly easy. A piss-poor Liverpool team were overturned with relative ease. Arsenal have played better in recent games and not won. I liked the Clichy-Gallas-Toure-Eboue back four. Fairly tight defensively with an attacking element down both flanks (even though it was the central defenders who scored). Good to see Henry rolling the sleeves up and getting stuck in - played the captain's part well. Again, Hleb and Fab spent much of the game weaving nice patterns - sometimes it works.

What is slightly annoying is that having won at Old Trafford and annihilated Liverpool, Arsenal are still 10 off the pace. No more losses to bottom half teams needed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 12, 2006, 07:34:14 PM
Surprisingly easy.

Na, always expected an easy 3 points here, Liverpool would always try and play football, once Arsenal scored first this game was never going to be in doubt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 12, 2006, 08:22:29 PM
Good victory today, always nice to win at home, esp this season, and to beat Liverpool by this scoreline is always pleasing on the eye.

And not a striker on the scoreboard!!!!

I was gonna post this on the Spurs thread, but it seems to have disaperred. So here it goes:

Reading 3-1 Tottenham

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

We actually STUFFED this team 4-0 recently, I'll write it again in case Mr Fearon doesn't understand this

Arsenal 4- 0 Reading

Makes a mockery of last season where you actually thought you were a better side than Arsenal :  :D

As if!!??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 12, 2006, 08:25:48 PM
Sorry, Spurs thread still here, mores the pity  :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2006, 10:28:25 PM
Henry scored the winner (another header!) for France v Greece friendly tonight. Surprisingly he played the 90 mins. Worryingly lacking the pace of 2004/5.
Hoyte scored the winner for Eng U21s but Walcott off injured.
Djourou/Senderos c**k-up for Switzerland v Brazil
Cygan scored for Villareal last week!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 16, 2006, 08:24:13 PM
Arsenal v Newcastle (with their 3 fit defenders) is live on RTE this Saturday at 3PM.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 17, 2006, 09:03:05 PM
I'm usually very cautious about the visit of Newcastle ever since they beat us at Highbury a few days before Christmas a few years back. Very embarrassing as I was going out with a Geordie for a while at Uni and I took a bit of grief for it. (Proper nutters Geordie wemen).

But it was take an amazing transformation in form for Newcastle to beat the goons tomorrow, they can't score or defend, a dangerous combination in any league.

My prediction: 2-0 to the Gunners

Baptista & Freddie are back too apparently
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2006, 09:14:54 PM
Disappointing that Gilberto is away back to Brazil for a wee while for 'personal reasons'. Love him or loathe him, the invisible wall always seems to be there when you need him most. Rosicky also out for another week. Who to start in midfield? Ljungberg-Baptista-Fabregas-Hleb? 2 players just back in there so maybe he'll hand Flamini a role in the middle third. Walcott suffered a hand injury for the England U21s. Newcastle will probably start Milner, Emre, Parker, Duff in the middle.

Up front Henry/RVP or Henry/Adebayor? I'd start the latter tomorrow.
Title: Newcastle injuries!
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2006, 09:19:38 PM
O Bernard    hip    no return date     
M Pattison    knee    no return date     
T Bramble    back    18th Nov 06     
S Taylor    groin    18th Nov 06     
T Krul    knee       
C Babayaro    groin    6th Dec 06     
S Carr    bruised toe    18th Nov 06     
S Parker    groin    18th Nov 06     
O Martins    hamstring    18th Nov 06     
S Ameobi    hip    no return date     
M Owen    knee (ACL)    May 07
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 17, 2006, 09:23:59 PM
Man thats a shockin big list. The Geordie Docs will be on good overtime on the run up to Christmas!

I'd start RVP personally, Adebayor in 2nd half for Henry should we be in control.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on November 18, 2006, 02:36:12 AM
I'm a fan of Adebayor, particularly when it come to unlocking stubborn defences, but Newcadtle are so poor at the moment I believe we should start with Henry & Van Persie up front. This match should suit the gunners passing game, with the possibilty of scoring 3 or 4 goals. If Newcastle can hold out for the first hour, the bring on Adebayor for the last 30 mins  to sneak a goal for an ugly 3 points
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 18, 2006, 02:58:24 PM
Looks like Henry is gonna be on the bench today. I'd imagine after 90 mins midweek he'll only be used if we are in bother.
Title: Arsenal 1 Geordies 1
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2006, 07:52:04 PM
Well, what to do? Arsenal continue to play their free-flowing version of total football without putting the ball in the net. Some of Arsenal's play was of such a high standard in the middle third that you've now become used to/spoiled by it. However, the decision to rest Henry seems to have backfired. Despite all his huffing and puffing when things don't go his way, Henry seems to be indispensable. Perhaps his 90 mins for France coupled with the match this Tuesday played a part in Wenger's decision.

I thought Arsenal upped their work-rate off the ball and I thought this was some kind of statement that we can survive without Henry. A soft soft goal to give away. Gallas talked earlier in the week that Arsenal need to find a balance between attack and defence. Newcastle scored in their first real attack after 30 mins, 2 on 2. Hleb was weaving his patterns, Fabregas seemed up for it and Clichy was bombing forward. Arsenal actually did little wrong apart from scoring - the crucial difference between the top teams. In one way it's utterly frustrating, and on the other you wouldn't want Arsenal to change their style. You know that if they're 1-up, they'll not be caught. As Wenger said after the game, it was the same old story. Arsenal don't score early on, then concede a soft goal, then spend the rest of the game chasing. He claimed this team needs to learn the right ingredients to take the title. What was the difference between the 2003/4 Invincibles and this side? Bergkamp's vision? Campbell's no frills approach? Vieira? Unless Baptista can recreate some of the Senegal man's steel, Arsenal may continue to have a soft centre. Gilberto was a loss today. He'd arguably have broken up the attack which led to Dyer's well-taken goal. However, that doesn't disguise the fact that Arsenal didn't score from play despite 60% possession and 23 attempts on goal. Newcastle, as do 99% of teams, just parked their bus in the 'D'. I'm at a loss as to the solution - forget a out trying to dominate all possession and allow opposing teams to commit themselves forward now and again and hit them on the break?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 19, 2006, 04:42:24 PM
forget a out trying to dominate all possession and allow opposing teams to commit themselves forward now and again and hit them on the break?

But if Arsenal changed thier style of play I honestly believe they would suffer a lot more than they are right now.
For all our possesion we were careless in attack at times (Adebayor's work rate is great but he's far from the finished article)
I fear our title chances are gone now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 19, 2006, 11:59:15 PM
u sound like wenger!why do u complain that teams come and defend at your place?do they not do this when they go 2 old trafford, the bridge or anfield?and even when they do u prob make more chances than aNY OF THE OTHER MENTRIONED TEAMS!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 20, 2006, 09:31:50 AM
Gilberto was a loss on Saturday, Arsenal don't need to change their style they just need to defend better, it's one thing believeing you can out pass and beat any team but you have to defend as well, Newcastle took their chance well and in Given had the best player on the pitch. The title is probably beyond them but this experience bodes well for the future.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hows she cutting on November 20, 2006, 11:28:43 AM
what do you make of Henrys reasoning for lack of goals at The Easyjet Stadium.

Reckons they haven't got used to the new surroundings yet and have no visual references within the stadium whilst on the pitch.

Sounds like a load of codswallop to me
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2006, 10:17:41 AM
Jesus Arsenal were brutal last night, very frustrating to watch. Anyone else listen to the Setanta commentary, totaly negative about everything Arsenal and spent the whole second half given Eboube dogs so was delighted to see him score. Lou Macari you haven't a clue!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2006, 08:16:48 PM
Only got to see clips, Dinny. In what what were they brutal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2006, 10:03:16 PM
Just their whole negative attitude towards Arsenal, every time Eboube made an error they just pounced on it, started calling Henry a "big game bottler", they just kept accentuating Arsenals failings over and over again set pieces, perfect goal, can be got at etc etc etc

Lou Macari was literally saying Henry was a diving cheat, he was just negative negative not in the slightest bit constructive in his critisism and offered no tactical insight into the game whatsoever but as Walcott was British the sun shined out of his ass, for an Arsenal fan it was just a horrible television experience
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 23, 2006, 10:13:22 AM
im a lpool man and even i no that eboue is a very goofd fullback.hes so young and could develop into a gr8 one under guidANCE OF WENGER
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2006, 08:10:04 PM
Bolton v Arsenal - this is usually the game that reveals whether or not Arsenal have the balls to stand up to a wee bit of Northern biff. With RVP and Henry ruled out for this, it'll be interesting to see whether Wenger throws Walcott in for a start, alongside Adebayor. Hopefully he doesn't plump for Aliadiere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2006, 07:33:50 PM
So predictable it's almost funny. Bolton kick Arsenal around the stadium, mostly legally, Arsenal lose the bap and completely lose their system. A 3-1 thumping spells the end of any faint hopes of the title, even if the Russians beat Salford tomorrow. Tying up 3rd is a priority. A real reality check today. Bolton were a credit to their fans - chased, harried, played to a system and thon f*cker Anelka on serious form.

Beating Fulham on Wednesday now looks a formidable task!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2006, 09:17:08 PM
Was afraid to post this earlier in the year in case it was closed down due to publicity but it doesn't seem to matter. I have been able to watch almost any game in Europe at any time using this site - eg tomorrow click on the midweek thread, click on the link at the bottom of the first post in it by admin and you'll get a plethora of ways to watch the game - I usually watch on ESPN (sky commentary mostly) but there are rakes of Chinese channels.

http://www.myp2p.eu/forum/index.php
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2006, 09:45:04 PM
Fulham 2 Arsenal 1

Oh dear.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on November 29, 2006, 10:08:19 PM
Was afraid to post this earlier in the year in case it was closed down due to publicity but it doesn't seem to matter. I have been able to watch almost any game in Europe at any time using this site - eg tomorrow click on the midweek thread, click on the link at the bottom of the first post in it by admin and you'll get a plethora of ways to watch the game - I usually watch on ESPN (sky commentary mostly) but there are rakes of Chinese channels.

http://www.myp2p.eu/forum/index.php


That site is a god send!

Setanta's coverage was on there for the first few weeks of the season, but they pulled it pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2006, 09:36:52 AM
We'll beat the Spuds on Saturday, get a result in Portugal but I think we might get thonked by Chelsea, too young and just not physical enough especially now as the pitches get heavier...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hows she cutting on November 30, 2006, 10:57:37 AM
ONeill

what is the story with using that site for watching games?

do you have to download anything?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2006, 07:23:23 PM
No you shouldn't have to download anything, unless it's on 'ppmate' .If it's on that channel, download ppmate first. The likes of ESPN or the Chinese channels are fine.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on November 30, 2006, 08:21:47 PM
Tried to watch the Newcastl match to see if it worked for me, kept getting page cannot be displayed. am i doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2006, 08:33:18 PM
Which station? There are about 20 options there. All working for me. (although I use firefox browser)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2006, 08:35:19 PM
Download and install "tvants".  http://www.football4less.com/streams/tvants.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on November 30, 2006, 09:12:12 PM
O,Neill, on clicking Download TVANts i was greeted with this, now I know yous Tyronies speak a different lingo, but WTF, where next?

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您正在搜索的页面可能已经删除、更名或暂时不可用。
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请尝试以下操作:

确保浏览器的地址栏中显示的网站地址的拼写和格式正确无误。
如果通过单击链接而到达了该网页,请与网站管理员联系,通知他们该链接的格式不正确。
单击后退按钮尝试另一个链接。
HTTP 错误 404 - 文件或目录未找到。
Internet 信息服务 (IIS)

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技术信息(为技术支持人员提供)

转到 Microsoft 产品支持服务并搜索包括“HTTP”和“404”的标题。
打开“IIS 帮助”(可在 IIS 管理器 (inetmgr) 中访问),然后搜索标题为“网站设置”、“常规管理任务”和“关于自定义错误消息”的主题。
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2006, 09:34:07 PM
http://download.tvants.com/pub/tvants/tvants1/win32/bin/TvantsSetup.EXE
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 01, 2006, 05:40:22 PM
Thanks O'neill

i seem to have found something, the big test will come tomorrow when i actuall try and find a live match
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 02, 2006, 03:11:39 PM
Adebayor, take a bow son, fantastic game. Arsenal win never in doubt, the Spuds thought they could play football, tactics all wrong the Goons could have won 5/6 - 0. Two penalties were harsh but Arsenal were easily the better side. Roll on Porto...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2006, 09:57:26 PM
http://goonergoals.blogspot.com/

There was a crucial difference today. In those first 45 minutes, Arsenal played that sublime football they have churned out on many occasions this year. The difference was threefold

a) didn't concede breakaway goal (almost did)
b) Scored (dubious offside)
c) The players worked their collective arse off.

This time Arsenal had that wee bit of luck they needed. As Dinny pointed out, Adebayor was immense. Chased, harried, did everything Henry wasn't (twas nice to see he made a beeline for TH after the goal). Spuds were absolutely crap and Lennon was taught a lesson by the younger Fabregas. Lennon may have broken his way into the England team, and Fabregas struggling to gain a starting place in the Spanish side, but that says more about the respective countries.

The penalties were dodgy enough for differing reasons but that didn't really matter. It could've been 6-0. It'll be great to get Gallas and Henry back but this result will give the team available plenty of confidence for the Porto and Chelsea games. I've a feeling though that Hamburg will take a point at home v Moscow anyway.

By the way Dinny, that's a flipping hypnotical avatar. Find myself staring at it for minutes. Hope it ain't subliminal and I'll not be following my sister's lead and moving to Kildare.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 03, 2006, 01:44:34 AM
O'Neill

sorted, thanks wa able ti watch the ManYoo match, watch another few tomorrow.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2006, 11:39:45 PM
A bit of the oul polonium 210 found at Arsenal I hear. Wonder will Spurs blame that a la lasagne.

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Polonium traces found at Arsenal stadium
Tue 05 Dec, 8:33 PM

LONDON (Reuters) - Investigators have found minute traces of polonium 210, the radioactive isotope that killed former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, at a local stadium, a public health spokeswoman said on Tuesday.

The traces were found at the stadium of English Premier League club Arsenal.

"Minute quantities (of polonium) were found at barely detectable levels at localised areas," said Health Protection Agency spokeswoman Katherine Lewis. "There is no risk to public health."

British police are in Moscow investigating Litvinenko's death in a case that has strained ties between both countries since the exiled former spy on his death bed accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of ordering his assassination.

Litvinenko died in a London hospital on November 23 from a lethal dose of polonium 210 after falling ill on Nov 1.

One of the men British police want to question in Russia is Andrei Lugovoy who travelled to London on October 31 with his wife and three children to watch CSKA Moscow play Arsenal in a Champions League game on November 1.

He met Litvinenko at a London hotel earlier the same day.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 05, 2006, 11:50:30 PM
Do you think the health protection agency will get wenger to eat something while they are there?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 06, 2006, 12:06:10 AM
Hear the Geiger counter produced the best score so far at Arsenal's new ground! :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 06, 2006, 09:51:59 PM
What a boring f*cking game, didn't watch half it, result was inevitable and a nice earner. Sunday I think could be a heavy defeat but Chelsea will probably settle for a 1-0..
Title: 0-0
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2006, 09:56:45 PM
Phew. For a few minutes when Moscow were 2-1 up on the Germans and Porto piling the pressure on Lehman, things looked as if the season would end on a cold December night. Thank the Lord the Porto manager realised that if they conceded they'd be out too and calmed his men a little. As it turned out, 2 Hamburg goals meant that both Arsenal and Porto were through anyway.

A poor, yet somewhat satisfying Arsenal performance.

Looking at the possible last 16 opponents, from most desirable to least:

Lille
Celtic
PSV
Roma
Inter Milan
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 06, 2006, 10:17:02 PM
Cheers O'Neill. I was wondering why the bookies wouldn't take single bets on this match. Now I know.
Title: Chavski 1 Arse 1
Post by: ONeill on December 10, 2006, 11:01:46 PM
The longer this game went on, the more confident I was that Arsenal would win it. It's no coincidence that Arsenal have taken 10 points from Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Spurs this year. When teams come out to play, Arsenal excel. I thought Arsenal were the better team in the first half in terms of passing, movement and harrying, without really threatening to take the lead. Chelsea seemed to up the tempo when the rain started to pelt. They're a fine team though the summer signing seem to disappear completely. Ballack was a real disappointment.

As for the Gooners, Senderos was a flipping liability. Hard to assess his performance though. Some great last ditch tackles but on the ball he was heart-attack football. I thought Adebayor, for the 3rd game running, was Arsenal's MOTM. Fantastic work-rate and has really taken off since Henry headed for TLC. Flamini worked hard - seemed to like that central role. Gilberto, despite his vocal critics, is club captain in all but name. Saved Phillipe's Swiss bacon on a couple of occasions. Wished they'd put on Walcott when 1-0 up in order to push Chelsea back.

Now, sort out the small team problem. Lose to Wigan on Wednesday and it's back to square 1.
Title: from arseblog
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2006, 10:15:28 PM
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A well earned point yesterday against Chelsea could have been even better but for Michael Essien’s amazing equaliser, his equally amazing miss and the woodwork.

When we took the lead through the hard-working Mathieu Flamini there were just over 10 minutes to go and you thought we could hang on but there was just no legislating for a goal as good as Essien’s. Sure, Hleb was fouled in the build up, and fouled by Cuntley ****, but these things happen. The goal sparked Chelsea into life and they could have won it twice in the last couple of minutes. First Essien hit the bar from less than 4 yards when a corner landed right at his feet and then Frank Lampard hit the post when Jens Lehmann spilled Robben’s tame shot. On TV they spoke about Flamini getting a touch but I couldn’t see that.

RvP celebrates with the FlamsterTo be fair we could have gone ahead after Essien’s goal when Alexander Hleb lashed the ball wildly over the bar from inside the box when a simple placed shot would have done. The Sun reports Arsene Wenger, who was furious at the miss, saying “He always does that!”.

Mourinho said afterwards that Arsenal showed no ambition to win the game but the man is on a wind up. Sure, we played a 4-5-1 but we’ve won big games with that formation before and given how young our team was it made sense. Adebayor was really good up front and worked very hard and in midfield we had to make up the numbers against quality like Essien, Makelele and Ballack. To have gone gung-ho to try and win would have been madness and Gilberto had an outstanding game providing the cover to the back four. For Mourinho to suggest there was some kind of co-operation between Arsene Wenger and Alex Ferguson to ensure Chelsea dropped points just shows how far removed from the real world he is.

Defensively we were a bit dodgy at times though. Philippe Senderos had the most nervy 20 minutes I’ve ever seen from him before settling into the game and when Arjen Robben was brought on he skinned Eboue at least three times. Actually, he didn’t have to do too much because Eboue was nowhere to be seen at least twice. He is a big worry defensively. Jens Lehmann could have cost us the game at the end and he seemed more interested in trying to wind up Didier Drogba.

I hope both of them, and remember they’re 14-15 stone men of 6′2″ or 6′3″, look back at the ridiculous incident in which they got booked and feel suitably ashamed. Drogba throwing himself to the ground from the slightest shove by Lehmann was pathetic and Lehmann’s leap when Drogba gave him a bit of a shoulder charge was just as bad. I worry a bit about Jens now. The World Cup was a massive motivational factor for him, he’s firmly ensconsed as Germany’s number one and although he’s a professional and a good one at that we’re starting to see things creep back into his game that I thought he’d cut out.

Of course the game was hyped up because of Ashley Cole, introduced by the Chelsea MC as ‘the best left back in world’. Good job he wasn’t trying to inflame an already tense situation, eh? Arsenal fans sang their songs about him and threw the fake £20 notes. Chelsea fans responded by singing about our manager wanting to have sex with children. Pure class and where is the condemnation in today’s newspapers or on the TV yesterday? Whatever you do don’t throw a small piece of paper and anyone who brings an inflatable mobile phone is likely to be arrested but 40,000 people can sing a despicable, vile song without so much as a word from anyone. It’s truly pathetic.

Hats off to Cesc Fabregas who refused to shake Cole’s hand which apparently sparked a bit of a ruckus in the tunnel in which Robin van Persie was also involved. Well done, lads. I wouldn’t shake that little ****’s hand either. It’s good to see he’s gotten into the swing of things at Chelsea which means he’s always in the referee’s face moaning and complaining. John Terry is an absolute disgrace the way he tries to intimidate the officials week in week out. It was hilarious watching them moan when Cole was booked for scything down Hleb trying to say that Senderos should have been booked for a previous foul on Drogba. Senderos’ foul was a bit of obstruction, Cole chopped down Hleb in full flight, the little ****. Hardly the same thing but Terry, obviously under instruction from his manager, objects to every decision the referee makes to try and gain some advantage later in the game. He is the perfect example of why football should follow the example of rugby when it comes to referees.

Afterwards Arsene Wenger said:

    The quality of our performance and our team spirit was absolutely tremendous. When you look at their age, what they did today was sensational.

On the TV they mentioned the average age of Chelsea’s outfield players was 29. Arsenal’s was 23. That is a big gap in terms of experience and while Chelsea had chances so did we and we weren’t overawed in any way. As the manager rightly pointed out as well Chelsea had last weekend off as well so that is a factor. While it was a blow to concede an equaliser so late and we rode our luck a bit in the last few minutes a draw was no less than we deserved and overall it was a fair result.

Hopefully we can take that kind of spirit and performance to Wigan on Wednesday night. If we play like that, with the same spirit and character, we can get a result, no problem. Our problem this season though has not been games like Chelsea, it’s been games like Wigan, so this will be one to watch closely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2006, 10:21:18 PM
I've followed Amy's career since she was a young Arsenal ladette. She wrote this on Sunday morning in the Observer:

Cole better off in blue as Arsenal fret over back four


Ashley Cole faces his old team-mates for the first time and while Jose Mourinho can purr over his impervious back four, Arsene Wenger, whose defence have an average age of just 21, has plenty to worry about. Amy Lawrence reports

Sunday December 10, 2006
The Observer


Far be it for anyone to second guess the emotions of a man who virtually crashed his car at the idea of a pay rise to only £2.8million per year, but when Ashley Cole lines up against his old brotherhood for the first time this afternoon, one thing he is bound to feel is considerably more secure than the men he left behind. And not just financially.

Glancing along his back four the first face he will see is John Terry - Premiership establishment, England captain, hard as they come, backbone of the champions, and king of Jose Mourinho's 'untouchables'. Further along is Ricardo Carvalho and then Geremi, two solid and wise defenders who are both at their peak age of 28.

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Did he do the right thing? Was it all worth it? In that split second before kick-off when Cole sizes up the rest of his defensive unit, he will feel justified. Unlike Arsenal, nobody ever analyses how Chelsea will cope if somebody is missing from the equation because there are other competent cogs waiting to slot into the machine.

Down at the other end of the pitch, four of the boys Cole shared a dressing room with not so long ago will also be looking across at each other for a little bit of last-minute encouragement. With an average age of 21, and fewer than 100 Premiership appearances between them, there can seldom have been a less experienced defence fielded for a game between two of the top sides. Arsene Wenger is pinning his faith in Emmanuel Eboue, Johan Djourou, Philippe Senderos and Gael Clichy to handle 13 stones of pure Ivorian hitman. It may not be a pretty sight.

They must also contend with Andriy Shevchenko, who is aiming to take his place among the group of Mourinho's guaranteed picks. 'When I am fit I will be there too,' he said. 'Having no rest after the World Cup and having to change country, culture and team was a big pressure. It is natural to have problems adapting. I spoke a lot with Jose and I have a lot of respect for him. I have never thought once about going back to Milan.'

For the third season running, Wenger has had his plans seriously spoiled by defensive disruption and the Premiership challenge has quickly fizzed out, so there is a pattern here. In 2004-2005 he lost confidence in Jens Lehmann, dropping him for reserve keeper Manuel Almunia with miserable consequences. In 2005-2006 he used 26 different defensive combinations as Sol Campbell went walkabout, Cole was broodingly absent and Lauren needed long-term rehabilitation. And now this.

Inwardly, Wenger may be cursing that this most challenging of away fixtures takes place now. One week before or after and he would have at least had either Kolo Toure or William Gallas available. But outwardly, the Arsenal manager has no option but to argue that this could be the making of his young defence.

The focus of attention will inevitably be on the Swiss international pairing in the middle, particularly as Senderos has in previous encounters with Chelsea displayed a pathological fear of Didier Drogba. 'Those experiences affected him, of course,' Wenger admitted. 'But since then Philippe since has gone through a whole Champions League campaign well where he faced some tough opponents like Zlatan Ibrahimovic and David Trezeguet. Drogba will see a different Senderos now. He's a strong character, resilient, highly motivated and dedicated and I feel there will also be Swiss complicity. Djourou and him will support each other.'

Wenger also anticipates a big performance from Cole's replacement, Clichy, who has discovered that being understudy is easy compared to the main billing. 'This is a good challenge for him because he will be compared to his role model,' said Wenger. 'Gael has the potential to be as good as him and after a year out he is doing amazingly.'

Eboue is under the spotlight for different reasons. After a tussle last weekend with Robbie Keane, the Ivorian right-back with a liking for theatricals was told to cut out the diving by his manager. 'We had a chat about that and we don't want him to do that at all,' Wenger confirmed. 'He is a player who does everything at full speed and sometimes these players can be unbalanced easier than a player at normal speed. But we don't want him to exaggerate and he does not want to either.'

Chelsea have failed to score only once this season and logic suggests corners will be a key factor, given Chelsea's success from and Arsenal's terror of the inswinging set piece. 'Part of the game will be decided there, so the best way is not to concede any corners,' Wenger said brightly. Well, there's a first time for everything.

Wenger confesses that organising the back four is not his speciality. 'The defensive side is not my favourite part, no. When I arrived here, I had Lee Dixon, Nigel Winterburn, Steve Bould, Tony Adams and Martin Keown; they were all 30 plus. But I can show you pictures of Tony Adams at 21 and you see him again at 31 and he is not the same player. He made mistakes at 21 that you would say today of our players, it's horrendous. It is all part of the experience.'

Simply surviving Stamford Bridge, where Chelsea have never lost a league game under Mourinho, is not in Wenger's mind. Really? 'I just want us to win the game. I don't care if we are first to beat Chelsea or not. What is important to me is to close the gap between us. We have a good opportunity. In a big game, I believe 100 per cent my players can deliver. They are fearless and I want them to show that.'

Could that have the same psychological impact as when Manchester United abruptly ended Arsenal's 49-game unbeaten run? 'I feel still a bit bitter about the way that ended,' Wenger lamented. 'We want to do it in a different way.'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on December 11, 2006, 10:48:22 PM
very encouraged by y'days preformance although rode our luck a few times. thought Gilberto was immense, if im being honest i think he would make a better club captain than henry hes seems to revel in the role and gives great leadership to the younger players. also thought clichy was the best left full back on show.djourou was very solid an excellent prospect. as for senderos i dont think hes gonna cut it.
arsenals problem is they cant raise themselves for the games against the likes of watford and shef utd. more than ne thing esle this is to down to inexperience. next season will be a different prospect!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on December 12, 2006, 12:01:57 PM
Change the name of this thread. I keep forgetting and come in, thinking it's the Goonies Thread. God I love that film!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 12, 2006, 12:23:30 PM
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Change the name of this thread. I keep forgetting and come in, thinking it's the Goonies Thread. God I love that film!

  ::)
Title: BBC STATS
Post by: ONeill on December 12, 2006, 10:46:53 PM
WIGAN ATHLETIC are looking for a place in the top half, and Arsenal a spot in the top three, going into this midweek clash at the JJB. Both clubs are coming off 1-1 away draws at the weekend - the Latics at Middlesbrough, the Gunners at Chelsea.

Paul Jewell's men have recovered from a run of one win from their opening eight matches in League and Cup, by picking up five victories from the last nine.

This is the fifth time Wigan will have faced Arsenal in League and Cup. Their only victory to date was 1-0 in the semi-final of last season's Carling Cup. They were two places and two points above the Gunners when they went into their first ever League fixture against them in this corresponding match last season, but the Londoners put paid to Wigan's nine-match unbeaten Premiership run, and gained their first away victory of the season.

ARSENAL play their game in hand on the other contenders chasing the top two, and victory here would put them in pole position in the race for Champions League qualifying round spots, assuming the top two places have already been filled.

Arsene Wenger's side are averaging one goal per point (26 goals, 26 points).

The Gunners 'doubled' the Latics last time around - the first ever season the pair found themselves in the same division together. It was 2-3 in this identical fixture, and 4-2 at Highbury. Thierry Henry bagged the ninth hat-trick of his career in Arsenal's last ever fixture at their former home.

REFEREE

Rob Styles (Waterlooville, Hampshire)

SEQUENCES/RECENT FORM

WIGAN ATHLETIC
Club stats
Fixtures
11th 22 points
Highest achievable after Saturday's matches: 8th
Lowest could fall: 11th

1. Won one of the last five Premiership matches.

2. Won and lost League matches in equal measure so far this season (won six, lost six, drawn four).

3. Conceded the opening goal in four top flight contests. Only Chelsea have done better, allowing only Manchester United and Arsenal to score first against them.

4. Effectively dropped more points from winning positions than any other club in the Premiership (13). They lost home to Manchester United and away to Blackburn and Tottenham and drew, home to Watford and away to Middlesbrough, having led in all five games.

5. Three points worse off than at this identical stage in their first Premiership campaign last season, when they had 28 points after the first 17 games.

6. Played fewer fixtures this season than any other Premier League club (17).

7. Scored more goals in the first five minutes of Premiership matches this season than any other club (four).

8. Manchester United and Liverpool are the only clubs to have left the JJB with maximum points so far this season.

9. Scored 10 goals and conceded 10 in home League games this term, and hold the highest average of Premiership goals-per-game conceded at home (1.43).

10. This is the first of three consecutive home League fixtures before Christmas. Sheffield United and Chelsea visit the JJB after this.

ARSENAL
Club stats
Fixtures
6th 26 points
Highest achievable after Saturday's matches: 3rd
Lowest could realistically fall: 6th

1. Won one of the last five League fixtures.

2. Netted in each of the last six League matches, and failed to score in one of the last 14.

3. The current tally of 26 points after 16 matches is on a par with Arsenal's record at this same stage last season, when they eventually finished fourth.

4. On the Premiership's longest run since a goalless draw of 34 games.

5. Hold a 100% Premiership record when keeping clean sheets (won six of six).

6. Gained seven Premiership points from losing positions - no club has gained more. The Gunners showed their resilience by trailing then winning at Charlton and drawing home to Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, Everton and Newcastle.

7. Won all four League games in which leading at half time, against Watford (h), Reading (a), Liverpool (h) and Tottenham (h).

8. Arsenal have three more fixtures before Christmas. They host Portsmouth, before a Carling Cup tie away to Liverpool, and a Premiership clash away to Blackburn.

KEY PLAYER NOTES/POTENTIAL MILESTONES

WIGAN ATHLETIC
Squad profiles

Henri CAMARA is Wigan's top scorer with six goals, all scored in the Premiership.

Paul SCHARNER is the only player to have been on the field for every minute of the Latics' League and Cup matches this season.

Wigan have two remaining Premiership ever-presents. Scharner and Emmerson BOYCE have been on the field for every minute of the Latics' League fixtures.

ARSENAL
Squad profiles

Thierry HENRY and Robin VAN PERSIE are Arsenal's joint top scorers with seven goals each. Henry leads the way for the club in the Premiership with six goals.

Henry scored five goals in the two Premiership fixtures with Wigan last season.

When he next plays, Henry will be making his 250th Premiership appearance. He'll become the seventh foreign player and the second Frenchman to reach the milestone. The other also wore an Arsenal shirt, Patrick Vieira.

If he plays, Mathieu FLAMINI wil be making his 100th appearance for the Gunners.

LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME

Wigan Athletic 2-3 Arsenal
19 November 2005 - Ref: Graham Poll
Wigan scorers: Camara 28, Bullard 45
Arsenal scorers: Van Persie 11, Henry 21, 41

HEAD TO HEAD TOTALS

Home and away
League: Wigan 0 wins, Arsenal 2, Draws 0
Prem: Wigan 0 wins, Arsenal 2, Draws 0

at Wigan only
League: Wigan 0 wins, Arsenal 1, Draws 0
Prem: Wigan 0 wins, Arsenal 1, Draws 0
Title: Wigan 0 Arse 1
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2006, 10:47:59 PM
That's more like it. A scrappy win. Wenger rested Fabregas, Hleb and Van Persie in favour of Walcott, Baptista and Freddie. Walcott is still very raw around the edges, often taking the wrong option when tied up. However, his performance improved in the 2nd half and looked the most dangerous player on the field for a while. Baptista is still lacking match practise. Some nice touches and played a great through-ball for Walcott but not sure if he's gelling with the Arsenal passing-style. Loves to run in a straight line and shoot from distance....very Chelsea like. I thought Adebayor was excellent again, despite his misses. Ran all night and took the game to Wigan, although being a lone striker, you'd expect him to. He's definitely revelling in Henry's absence. Toure made a couple of crucial clearances yet the winning of this match occurred around the 75th minute when Wenger brought Fabregas on. The lad oozes class and seems to have grown a set of hardy balls too, judging by his tackle just before the goal. His pass to Adebayor was classy. Adebayor continues his remarkable run - he scores, Arsenal win and keep a clean sheet. All-in-all, hopefully the start of a great run...home to Pompey (on RTE) and Blackburn in the league next, followed by 2 away games before the New Year (Watford and Sheff Utd). Tonight needs to be the start of a 15-point run. Couldn't care less about the League Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2006, 05:55:50 PM
Great News!

Morrow Takes Over At Dallas 11/12/06

FC Dallas General Manager Michael Hitchcock announced today that former Arsenal (England) and Dallas (MLS) defender Steve Morrow will become the fourth head coach in team history. Morrow, who was an assistant coach with Dallas the last two seasons, becomes the first former Dallas player to be selected the team’s head coach.

“Steve possesses all the characteristics which I feel are necessary to lead FC Dallas,” said Hitchcock. “He brings a great background which not only includes success with one of the top clubs in the world, but also first hand understanding of what MLS is all about, having also played and coached in MLS. He’s familiar with the team, the players, and I feel has the understanding and knowledge of what it will take to win championships.”

The 36 year-old Morrow began his professional playing career at the age of 17, when he was signed by Arsenal of the English Premiership. After being loaned to various clubs, he made his Gunners’ debut at the end of the 1991-92 season. The next year, he became a mainstay on the team that won the 1993 FA Cup and ’93 League Cup, in which he scored the game-winning goal in the 2-1 victory over Sheffield Wednesday. He also played in the ’94 European Cup Winner’s Cup 1-0 win over Italian-side Parma, as well as the ’95 Cup Winner’s Cup final, which Arsenal lost 2-1 to Spain’s Real Zaragosa.

After playing one season under current Arsenal head coach Arsène Wenger, he joined Queen’s Park Rangers in 1997. Morrow played in 92 games in his four years at Rangers before coming to play for Dallas in 2002. In his two years as a defender with Dallas, he scored three goals in 41 regular season games and once in three playoff games. All four of his goals in MLS were against the Colorado Rapids.

“I’m thrilled and honored to coach what I consider to be the leading organization in MLS,” said Morrow. “I believe we have an extremely talented group of players and with a few adjustments I think we can achieve great things.”

Morrow, who earned 40 caps with the Northern Ireland National Team, was originally hired by Dallas as an assistant coach on Feb. 3, 2004, though he was forced to resign in late May of that year due to personal reasons. He returned to the club on Jan. 27, 2005 and has been the first assistant coach in each of the past two seasons. He acquired his UEFA "A" coaching license and also received a degree in Sports and Fitness Science from Luton University in England in 2002.

Morrow becomes the 51st coach in MLS history and the 11th that has previously played in Major League Soccer, with recently hired Kansas City head coach Curt Onalfo being the 10th. Six of the nine previous former players that coached MLS teams finished a particular season as interim coaches, but only two of those six were later named MLS head coaches. The three other former players that became MLS head coaches did so at the start of a season and have accounted for four of the last six MLS Cups Championships: Frank Yallop (San Jose – 2001, 2003); Peter Nowak (D.C. United - 2004); and Dominic Kinnear (Houston - 2006). Morrow joins Onalfo as the two most recent former players that will begin a season as an MLS head coach.

Morrow is married to Fiona and has three children, Jonathan, Sophie, and Scarlett.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 14, 2006, 08:51:25 PM
Wasn't he the guy that got injured by his team mates after the FA cup final?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2006, 08:58:47 PM
Yes, Tony Adams, of the Equus asinus variety, threw our Steve to the ground from his shoulders before the team collected their winners' medals after beating Sheff Wed in the League Cup final. Poor Steve never walked the steps that day, even though he'd scored the winner.
Title: Arse 2 Pompey 2
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2006, 07:05:55 PM
Another disappointing result. Forget that Arsenal were 2-0 down, you need to be beating Portsmouth at home. After what happened today, it was a chance to make the gap a little easier on the eye (although a more realistic analysis is that it allowed other Champions' League pretenders to close in). Why Wenger didn't start the on-fire Adebayor is beyond me. I don't buy the groin excuse - he seemed ok when he came on. I'd say this boob contributed to Wenger's irritation at half-time. He is swiftly losing his 'cool-customer' tag.

As for the game, I thought Walcott (although tiring late on) is close to a starting berth. Ljungberg simply hasn't got it what he had anymore and it's getting to the stage that Theo is more of a threat to opposition than Freddie. Van Persie, well, he needs to convert more. How long do we wait for him to flower? Despite a few defensive lapses, Clichy tried his heart out towards the end, taking the game to Pompey when others were waiting for something to happen. Aliadiere - never had it, never will.

On to Anfield on Tuesday and I can't see our reserves putting it up to a relatively strong Liverpool line-up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 19, 2006, 08:56:52 PM
Wenger shows Rafa some Travolta.

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Title: Arse 6 Blackb 2
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2006, 10:31:33 PM
I received a text yesterday from a brother saying that the Gooners were going to rack up a high score. It was always going to happen sooner rather than later. Arsenal, in those last 20 minutes, playing absolutely orgasmic football, bordering on arrogance. Savage's swipe at Cesc down by the flag typified how the Rovers' players were feeling.

Something that surely is not resting easy on Wenger is Henry's return. If Arsenal, and a big if, can gain some form of consistency (it's not beyond the realms of Arsenal possibility that Watford and Sheff Utd will turn them over over the holidays) then who does he drop? An on-fire Adebayor or Van Persie who is getting the games he needs to confirm his massive talent. Gallas' return is vital. The defence is not breeding confidence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 23, 2006, 11:29:35 PM
Bet ye Wenger's thinking of selling Henry?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 24, 2006, 08:51:35 PM
Some festive showboating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDh3cDfPt3U&mode=related&search=
Title: Watford 1 Arse 2
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2006, 09:55:32 AM
Too close for comfort. Adebayor's injury is worrying though. Baptista up front alongside Van Winkle? Walcott is impressing more and more and should rake up about 25-30 appearances this season. Captain Gilberto having the season of his career.
Title: Sheff 1 Arse 0
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2006, 10:52:47 PM
Same old story. Head north of Birmingham and Arsenal crumble. Forget the injuries and the 'youth' factor. Until Arsenal replave Vieira's balls, they'll turn into a Liverpool.
Title: Re: Sheff 1 Arse 0
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2006, 12:44:34 AM
Same old story. Head north of Birmingham and Arsenal crumble. Forget the injuries and the 'youth' factor. Until Arsenal replave Vieira's balls, they'll turn into a Liverpool.

What Champion's League Winners?....Doubt it ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on December 31, 2006, 12:47:47 AM
Ye hoors had to win at OT though! :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on December 31, 2006, 06:51:50 AM
And a GREAT pleasure was taken at it.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2007, 10:19:19 PM
Anyone do French O Level? - http://www.dailymotion.com/Miss-Lili/video/xv65s_henry-ds-telefoot-by-goals-miss-lil

Meanwhile, seriously depleted squad tomorrow.

OUT: Theo Walcott, Alexander Hleb, Emmanuel Eboue, Emmanuel Adebayor, Abou Diaby, Thierry Henry, William Gallas, Johan Djourou and Freddie Ljungberg.

FIT: Lehmann, Hoyte, Toure, Senderos, Clichy, Fabregas, Gilberto, Rosicky, Baptista, van Persie, Almunia, Flamini, Aliadiere, Song, Lauren, Denilson.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2007, 08:27:58 AM
Hoyte, Senderos, Almunia, Flamini, Aliadiere and Song

These guys to me just aren't good enough, Christ even average players like John O'Shea or Darren Fletcher would be better than these guys, Aliadiere's performance on Monday was nothing short of shocking, maybe Stokes or Bentender should be given a chance...

Wenger is very myopic sometimes and it is starting to annoy...
Title: Gunners 4 Charlton 0
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2007, 09:42:09 PM
A surprise starting place for Henry pays dividends. He scores the first from the spot, sets up Hoyte for his, and wins the penalty for RVP to convert. RVP completed the the scoring with a dinky finish. A nice way to start the year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 02, 2007, 10:06:06 PM
Glad that Henry was able to prove his fitness as the transfer window opens!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2007, 07:06:19 PM
Wouldn't mind cashing in......you could do a lot with 20-25m!

In all seriousness, it is noticeable that Henry has lost that seering pace - and has done so since the Madrid game. A massive pity if that's the case - TH at full pelt was orgasmic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 04, 2007, 09:28:20 AM
Don't know whether Henry has disimproved or is just moody but I agree that Arsenal would be best served by moving him on for a substantial fee.
Title: arsenal.com
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:33:56 PM
Eboue ready to return for FA Cup trip to Liverpool

Liverpool v Arsenal
FA Cup Round 3
Anfield
Sat, Jan 6, 2007, 5.15pm

 

By Chris Harris

Slowly but surely, Arsenal's injury problems are clearing up.

Thierry Henry returned to action against Charlton on Tuesday and Emmanuel Eboue is the latest name to leave the treatment room and rejoin the first-team squad. The Ivorian has missed the last four games with an ankle injury but is fit for this weekend's FA Cup tie at Liverpool.

Arsène Wenger had positive news about a number of the Club's walking wounded when he spoke exclusively to Arsenal TV Online on Thursday afternoon.

"The news is quite good at the moment," said the Arsenal manager. "We have no new injuries from the Charlton game and we have Eboue available for Saturday.

"Julio Baptista might come back too and William Gallas is very close [to a return]. The news of Theo Walcott's back is very good. He and Gallas are possibles for the Carling Cup [on Tuesday].

"Lauren is ready to play. He is looking from week to week better and better in training. Emmanuel Adebayor should be back for the Blackburn game."

Freddie Ljungberg is also nearing full fitness while Abou Diaby took part in his first full training session on Thursday since suffering a fractured and dislocated ankle last May. The young Frenchman's return delighted his manager.

"It is great news, he had his first complete training session today," said Wenger. "He is so happy to play and his performance was very positive."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:37:49 PM
No Fear lads

# Arsenal and Liverpool have contested three FA Cup Finals, Arsenal winning two in 1950 and 1971, and Liverpool winning one, in 2001.
# Arsenal have never lost at Anfield in an FA Cup tie. The Gunners drew 0-0 there in 1923 and won 2-0 in 1936.
# The two teams contested a marathon four-game Semi-Final in 1980, Arsenal finally winning 1-0 with a goal from Brian Talbot at Highfield Road.
# Arsenal have won the FA Cup 10 times to Liverpool's seven.
# The teams last met in the competition five years ago when a Dennis Bergkamp goal gave us a 1-0 win at Highbury. Liverpool's Jamie Carragher was sent off later in the game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on January 04, 2007, 09:05:15 PM
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No Fear lads

Worth a bet then O'Neill?  Wonder what the odds are?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on January 04, 2007, 09:48:07 PM
No Fear lads

# Arsenal and Liverpool have contested three FA Cup Finals, Arsenal winning two in 1950 and 1971, and Liverpool winning one, in 2001.
# Arsenal have never lost at Anfield in an FA Cup tie. The Gunners drew 0-0 there in 1923 and won 2-0 in 1936.
# The two teams contested a marathon four-game Semi-Final in 1980, Arsenal finally winning 1-0 with a goal from Brian Talbot at Highfield Road.
# Arsenal have won the FA Cup 10 times to Liverpool's seven.
# The teams last met in the competition five years ago when a Dennis Bergkamp goal gave us a 1-0 win at Highbury. Liverpool's Jamie Carragher was sent off later in the game

Why the highlighting? Is what happened in the 1930s relevant given that Arsenal haven't played an FA Cup tie at Anfield since? Liverpool hadn't beaten United in the Cup since the 1920s, before last season's tie. ;)

Carragher's sending off was the time he threw the coin back into the crowd wasn't it?

I remember being in tears as a wee lad, watching that third replay in 1980. That must have been the longest cup tie ever.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 09:52:53 PM
No Fear lads


I remember being in tears as a wee lad, watching that third replay in 1980. That must have been the longest cup tie ever.


Not as many tears as i circa 2001. Robbery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 05, 2007, 09:55:43 AM
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Not as many tears as i circa 2001. Robbery.

Damn thieving scouse feckers, Henchoz should have sent off for that blatent hand-ball. Michael Owens Coup de Grace and has done nothing since.....

Need to score first to win, Liverpool finish games for strong wouldn't be confident if it's scoreless with 20 minutes left. With Fabregas suspended it will be interesting to see who plays central midfield...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2007, 07:31:13 PM
Good result against a one dimensional Liverpool side, once we got the first goal the result was never in doubt. Rosicky and Helb played very well, might be hope for Senderos yet  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on January 06, 2007, 07:46:18 PM
Good win today from the lads, Henry's goal was a joy, he skinned Carragher alive and hung him out to dry.

Rosicky, take a bow, great finishes both.

Arsenal wobbled after conceding but out defense was excellent today, and Almumia showed good form too considering he's had little or no first team action this season.

Hopefully the goon's can go on from here and finish the season strongly  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 08:19:27 PM
Fairly run-of-the-mill victory over the scousers. That's 6 goals scored in 2 games against them this year. Hopefully we'll start to see the best of Rosicky now.

When teams come out to play against Arsenal, the Gunners thrive. Henry was ropey enough and was on the verge of substitution when the goal went in.

Never lost at Anfield in the Cup - the spirit remains!!

Couldn't give a toss about Tuesday though Liverpool are sure to go all out after today. Silverware and all that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
Fairly run-of-the-mill victory over the scousers. That's 6 goals scored in 2 games against them this year. Hopefully we'll start to see the best of Rosicky now.

When teams come out to play against Arsenal, the Gunners thrive. Henry was ropey enough and was on the verge of substitution when the goal went in.

Never lost at Anfield in the Cup - the spirit remains!!

Couldn't give a toss about Tuesday though Liverpool are sure to go all out after today. Silverware and all that.

I doubt if most Liverpool fans give a toss about it either, especially after today. If the reserves beat Arsenal reserves, then fair enough, but I don't think many will take any pleasure out of a victory in the league cup given what happened today. Anyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2007, 08:28:09 PM
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Anyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.

Clear off J70, this is our delusional thread, you have your own we don't need any realists spoiling our fun. If only the goons could play Liverpool every week   ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 08:31:55 PM
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Anyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.

Clear off J70, this is our delusional thread, you have your own we don't need any realists spoiling our fun. If only the goons could play Liverpool every week   ;)

I'm sorry, I'll leave you to it!

I'm off to dream of All Irelands for Donegal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 08:41:04 PM
Fairly run-of-the-mill victory over the scousers. That's 6 goals scored in 2 games against them this year. Hopefully we'll start to see the best of Rosicky now.

When teams come out to play against Arsenal, the Gunners thrive. Henry was ropey enough and was on the verge of substitution when the goal went in.

Never lost at Anfield in the Cup - the spirit remains!!

Couldn't give a toss about Tuesday though Liverpool are sure to go all out after today. Silverware and all that.

I doubt if most Liverpool fans give a toss about it either, especially after today. If the reserves beat Arsenal reserves, then fair enough, but I don't think many will take any pleasure out of a victory in the league cup given what happened today. Anyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.

Jaysus your touchy, J70. Where's the smugness? If Liverpool had beaten Arsenal today, we'd have went all-out for victory on Tuesday, and wanted it.

Saying that, it is great playing Liverpool though. They're even softer than Arsenal! My big fear though is that we'll turn into Liverpool and go a generation without a league title. Must be awful. God forbid.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 09:22:32 PM
Looks like there'll be no new faces:

"I am not in for Darren Bent," said Wenger. "With the transfer window I am like somebody who is watching the rain outside from inside the window. They all hurry up out there and I am sitting here watching it with pleasure."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 09:49:22 PM
Fairly run-of-the-mill victory over the scousers. That's 6 goals scored in 2 games against them this year. Hopefully we'll start to see the best of Rosicky now.

When teams come out to play against Arsenal, the Gunners thrive. Henry was ropey enough and was on the verge of substitution when the goal went in.

Never lost at Anfield in the Cup - the spirit remains!!

Couldn't give a toss about Tuesday though Liverpool are sure to go all out after today. Silverware and all that.

I doubt if most Liverpool fans give a toss about it either, especially after today. If the reserves beat Arsenal reserves, then fair enough, but I don't think many will take any pleasure out of a victory in the league cup given what happened today. Anyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.

Jaysus your touchy, J70. Where's the smugness? If Liverpool had beaten Arsenal today, we'd have went all-out for victory on Tuesday, and wanted it.

Saying that, it is great playing Liverpool though. They're even softer than Arsenal! My big fear though is that we'll turn into Liverpool and go a generation without a league title. Must be awful. God forbid.

Sorry O'Neill, misunderstood. I stiil don't think Liverpool will be too bothered about the league cup, nor do I think Arsenal would have been had the roles been reversed. A Liverpool victory on Tuesday would be fairly hollow.

Were you not an Arsenal supporter before '89? That was their first since '71!

And yes, its not great not having won the title in 16 years and counting. The marvellous thing about sport though is that there is always hope that a change is around the corner! I still think Benitez is the man to do it, but we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 10:04:40 PM
Arsenal's line-up on Tues may be stronger than usual for this competition. A lot of fellas returning from injury should get a run out - Gallas, Adebayor, Fabregas, Lauren, Ljungberg with non-starters like Baptista, Walcott, Aliadiere and Denilson getting a game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
Squad for tonight.....

2. Abou Diaby
4. Francesc Fabregas
5. Kolo Toure
9. Julio Baptista
15. Denilson
17. Alex Song
20. Johan Djourou
21. Mart Poom
24. Manuel Almunia
30. Jeremie Aliadiere
31. Justin Hoyte
32. Theo Walcott
33. Matthew Connolly
40. Henry Lansbury (This kid has only turned 16)  :o
43. Mark Randall
45. Armand Traore
 
Looks like Freddie and maybe Lauren are on the way, Freddie could go to West Ham for cash plus Reo-Coker..

Have no faith in Jeremie Aliadiere and hopefully he'll be sold....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:02:46 PM
Poor team out tonight.

 Almunia
# 31 Hoyte - age 22
# 05 Toure - age 25
# 20 Djourou - age 19
# 45 Traore - age 18
# 32 Walcott - age 17
# 04 Fabregas - age 19
# 17 Song Billong  - age 19
# 15 Denilson - age 18
# 09 Julio Baptista - age 25
# 30 Aliadiere - age 23

4-1 up though. Liverpool, with  Hyypia, Gerrard, Luis Garcia, Fowler, Alonso and Bellamy playing should peg that back though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:12:45 PM
Now it's 1-5! Unbelievable!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:19:14 PM
Wenger should give the 15 year old a run out.

2-5. Will age count against Arsenal in the closing stages?

Diaby, age 20, on for Walcott. Good to see him back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:46:25 PM
Connolly, age 19, on. 6-3. Good run-out for Baptista. Would still drop him though for Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:54:08 PM
A good run out all-round but not overly impressed with anyone beyond what we already know. Baptista's late runs are very Ljungberg circa 2002 and something to work on. Still a bit beefy. Disappointed conceding 3 goals at Anfield although Gerrards was a special.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on January 10, 2007, 08:57:01 AM
It was good to see Alliadiare having a good game last night. maybe Arsenal could get a few extra pounds for him if they sold him now during the transfer window.
With Rosicky, Hleb, Baptista & Walcott all challenging for wide mid-field positions, Ljundberg's days with Arsenal must nearly be over. They might even sell him now as he's not cup tied for the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 10, 2007, 10:11:39 AM
unbellivable result. With Baptista scoring 4 he deserves a start on saturday against blackburn. I know the liverpool defence were not the best and blackburn will be a stiffer test. But if you score 4 it will do your confidence no good to be dropped
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 14, 2007, 09:52:13 AM
Great result against a battling Blackburn team who gave it a go, which was eventually their undoing! Arsenal on the break looked awesome and TH14's goal was what we've come to expect of the king, absolute brilliance! Hope im not wrong but I can see us getting a big result against the scum next weekend with Cesc showing scholes and carrick how its done!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 14, 2007, 07:33:19 PM
This was an important result - breaking down the 'northern' myth that I was starting to believe, and following up two impressive cup results with an away victory in the league. Blackburn were in the best run of form they'd experienced in years so I expected a run-around. As it panned out, it was relatively comfortable and if Gilberto hadn't reacted to Savage it could've been 3 or 4-0. Pity he's out of the Manure tie this weekend. Hopefully Fabregas's injury isn't too severe. Great goals too.

Onto Manure at the Emirates. Normally dread these games but looking forward to this one. If Utd win, I'll accept them as the Real Deal (I still think they'll falter). However, i think Fergie will take a leaf out of the likes of Sheff Utd or Villa and sit back at the Emirates, taking a 0-0 or 1-1 or sneaking a breakaway goal. This is not the time for Man Utd to make a statement of footballing prowess - they'll gladly allow Arsenal 99% possession, 54 shots on goal, but still take something from the game. Fergie knows not to play swashbuckling football at Arsenal. If Utd go 1-0 up I fear the worst. They'll sit back and hit Ronaldo on the break.

Arsenal will play the way they always play, and if they score first, forcing Utd out, it could be lights out for Utd.

Should be a clinker. Bring back Keown.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 15, 2007, 05:01:02 PM
gilberto missing is big blow. He has been very good this year. Flamini will come in for him. I would be confident if gallas was back for the game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2007, 06:58:39 PM
Rather harsh article on Eboue, some of which rings true.

Eboue and the man in the mirror

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There are players, or better put - a player, currently at the club - who are a disgrace to the shirt

Emmanuel Eboue. A fantastic talent going forward no doubt, and a key man in the defence during the Champions League run last year. But an absolute disgrace to the shirt - what is with this guy?

I read an interview with a few months ago and he came across really well, so it gives me no pleasure to say this but he is a cheat and I do not want to see him in an Arsenal shirt again. I was embarrassed to watch him once again react to an imminent booking by collapsing on the floor like a child being told off by his mother.

It isn't the first time this has happened, it happened during the north London derby in December. It happened at Bolton and it's really unnecessary, he doesn't need to do it. If you've fouled someone you should be man enough to take the booking.

This is forgetting the goal he cost us by staying on the floor expecting a free kick at home to Spurs last season, and the dive in the Champions League final that ultimately brought us a goal.

It seems to me the old adage, "Remember who you are and who you represent" needs drumming into this young lad because he's making an arse of himself right now. It was great to see Justin Hoyte replace him immediately as he went down again in the Kop end penalty area.

Seems to me Hoyte's attitude is the complete opposite of Eboue's and while the consensus maybe that Hoyte has no future here, for me, it's really refreshing to see a young lad who just wants to play for the Arsenal.

At least I can't imagine Hoyte going down with imaginary injuries! I think Eboue really needs to take a look in the mirror because the speed with which he was replaced on Saturday does not bode well for his Arsenal career.

Of course, Eboue may well be injured, but for me, he's now the boy who cried wolf and we all know what happened to him, right?

http://arsenal-mania.com/articles/3103491/Eboue-and-the-man-in-the-mirror.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 16, 2007, 12:36:43 PM
Harsh but fair O'Neill, he really annoys me and like the writer above I don't think Hoyte has a future at the club but at least he's an honest committed player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 16, 2007, 05:55:57 PM
Fair play to the fans that identify the cheats in their own club. Well done to the writer, and to other Gunners fans who have no time for this sort of thing.

The same shite rankles me with Luis Garcia at Anfield, and Chelsea fans have voiced their disapproval with Drogba in the past.

It seems as if the fans are the only ones with a real interest in driving diving out of soccer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2007, 04:30:50 PM
Eboue still at it.
Title: Gooners 2 Goons 1
Post by: muppet on January 21, 2007, 06:46:51 PM
 Let us all give thanks and praise:

 Praise them (http://www.keizersberg.be/movie/alleluia.mpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 21, 2007, 07:12:41 PM
Van Persie is out for the season gents.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 21, 2007, 08:06:49 PM
VanPersie breaks 5th metatarsal (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=443097&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=4161&title=Van+Persie+blow+for+Gunners)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2007, 09:16:37 PM
Nice to do the double over the Yanks. Utd started well and it was easy to see why they were top of the league - confident passing and secure at the back. Gradually Rosicky, Hleb and Fabregas started to hold onto the ball and show why they are best at that. I thought both sides had their spells on top and a draw wouldn't have been unfair to either team. Utd lost the game around the 70th minute when they attempted to play down the clock. Instead of maintaining what they were doing they started time wasting and completely lost focus, forgetting what got them ahead in the first place. Two great finishes and a major blow in Van Persie's injury. Hopefully this is an excuse for a quick dip in the transfer market. Forget about Aliadiere.

A good day.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2007, 11:22:43 PM
Goals:

http://goonergoals.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 22, 2007, 09:35:53 AM
Fabregas was my man of the match as the game progress he was outstanding, the front pair worked their socks off. Still questions marks over Man Ure's title creditials as this was a big test they failed. Is Ronaldo the new big game bottler  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 22, 2007, 09:47:13 AM
I think it was a deserved win for the Arse (as a neutral observer), Utd seemed to think they were safe after scoring and handed the Gooners the initiative (never a good move).  I thought Arsenal were very impressive going forward, and if they can get Rosicky a bit more focussed, he looks like a matchwinner.  Was impressed by the Utd. left full Evra, very attack minded and quick, though both Arsenal goals came from down his channel.  Opens the premiership up a bit, which can't be too bad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2007, 07:19:53 PM
Highbury now. Brings a tear to the eye:

http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/Slideshow.jsp?mode=fromshare&Uc=8gmcsbl.8zta9qkl&Uy=j37cip&Ux=0&localeid=en_GB
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2007, 11:05:33 PM
Spuds v Arsenal.

Brings back good memories of 20 years ago at the same stage...in the days when Arsenal took the cup seriously! (A young Niall Quinn played)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KybcIoeM4a8
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on January 24, 2007, 12:43:42 PM
Arsene Wenger has picked a strong squad for the game at White Hart Lane. You couldnt really call it a second string with most of the out field players appearing regularly in the premiership this season.

Philippe Senderos, Alexander Hleb, Mathieu Flamini and Emmanuel Eboue come in for Johan Djourou (injured), Alex Song(international duty), Matthew Connolly and Henri Lansbury (suspended).


2. Abou Diaby
4. Francesc Fabregas
5. Kolo Toure
6. Philippe Senderos
9. Julio Baptista
13. Alexander Hleb
15. Denilson
16. Mathieu Flamini
21. Mart Poom
24. Manuel Almunia
27. Emmanuel Eboue
30. Jeremie Aliadiere
31. Justin Hoyte
32. Theo Walcott
43. Mark Randall
45. Armand Traore

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 07:30:48 PM
Match delayed:

BBC


Tottenham v Arsenal
The Carling Cup semi-final between Tottenham and Arsenal has been delayed until 2015 GMT because of the Gunners late arrival at White Hart Lane.

Tottenham midfielder Teemu Tainio misses the game at White Hart Lane because of a sprained ankle.

Skipper Ledley King (bruised foot) is also out but Jermaine Jenas (ankle), Mido (groin) and Paul Stalteri (hip) have returned to full training.

Arsenal will continue to play a team of fringe and young players.

Theo Walcott should start after being rested against Manchester United but leading marksman Robin van Persie is out because of a fractured foot.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 07:32:23 PM
Reason: the Arsenal kids on the bus were annoying the driver by yelling every 10 seconds "ARE WE THERE YET?"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 07:37:47 PM
Did Henry bitch-slap Neville?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAtwi0_91WY&NR
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 08:29:08 PM
Great start to the game. Berbatov hits the post on 5 mins. Arsenal going close on 7.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 08:31:56 PM
Spurs 1-0 - Berbatov header 12 mins
Their first victory over Arsenal (albeit youth team) since 1999?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 08:38:58 PM
Mmmm Spurs 2-0 Baptista OG.

This match (tie) could be over soon...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 09:10:08 PM
Spurs 2 Arsenal 0 at half time

I'd actually take that score back to the Emirates. Could've been a lot worse, although Baptista had a chance at the end. The young lads are struggling to cope with a side fiercely determined to reach the final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 24, 2007, 09:17:44 PM
just had to break up the Tyrone thing

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 09:44:25 PM
2-1 Baptista on 64. Away goal crucial. I'd even take 3-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 09:56:59 PM
2-2 Baptista. Away goals crucial. Would even take 5-2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 25, 2007, 05:34:11 AM
Its 0-0 as away goals do not count in this competition. Spurs embarrassed, but what can you expect there is such a huge gap between the top 4 and the chasing bunch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 07:40:06 AM
That's odd as Arsenal went out of the competition at the semis on away goals last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 25, 2007, 07:46:26 AM
Away goals only come into play after extra time in the second leg.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 08:37:30 AM
So, Spurs have to score because of Arsenal's away goals, or they're out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 25, 2007, 09:46:03 AM
Correct
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 07:19:45 PM
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Hamstring will keep Hleb out for 'a good four weeks'

By Richard Clarke

The injury Alex Hleb picked up at Tottenham on Wednesday night will keep him out for “a good four weeks”.

The Belarus midfielder came on as a 56th-minute substitute with Arsenal trailing 2-0 and helped Arsène Wenger’s side complete a stirring comeback. However he hurt his hamstring late on and was replaced himself with four minutes to go.

Jeremie Aliadiere (back) and Emmanuel Eboue (ankle) also picked up knocks at White Hart Lane. They may miss Sunday’s FA Cup tie with Bolton but should be available for the return game with Tottenham next Wednesday.

However the prognosis for Robin van Persie is not so clear-cut. When the Dutchman broke a metatarsal in his right foot in Sunday, Wenger suggested the striker might be out for six weeks. He now admits that might be optimistic and suggested he could be out for as many as 10 weeks. However, when he spoke to Arsenal TV Online on Thursday, the immediate concern was Hleb.

“I think he will be out longer than I thought last night,” said Wenger on Thursday afternoon. “It will be a good four weeks.

“That is the disappointing side of last night. It puts our performance into perspective. You don’t want to lose players in January because, if you lose them for a long time, then their season can be over.

“We also lost Jeremie but that is a question of days. I think he will be able to play on Wednesday. Also Eboue has done his ankle again. That is only minor too and I hope he’ll be fit for Sunday but if not Wednesday.”

The manager could not be so optimistic about Van Persie.

“Ideally you would say six to eight weeks but as well it could be 10,” he remarked. “That means April and you are close to the end of the season and you’ll need to get back to your best level. I hope it will be six weeks but that is really optimistic.”

Disappointing that Hleb and Van Persie will miss this crucial part of the season with the CL about the recommence. I suppose Baptista will see a bit more of the first-team action and hopefully Freddie will fill the gap left by Hleb.
Title: Arse 2 Spurs 2
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 09:00:14 PM
A nervy game. 0-0, 10 mins into the 2nd. Could go any way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 09:30:42 PM
1-0. Adebayor. 10 mins left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 09:34:15 PM
1-1 Mido. Extra time looms.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 09:54:15 PM
Extra time. On a knife edge. Spurs need to score.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 31, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
Who's on top? Don't have sky either! :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 31, 2007, 10:07:59 PM
Aresnal 2 Spurs 1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
A fairly run of the mill victory today, maintaining the home record against Spurs since 1993 (When they rested Wright and Adams after beating Spurs in the FA semi).

The question is - does Arsene continue with the likes of Almunia, Hoyte, Traore, Walcott, Denilson, Diaby and Aliadiere - or play the big guns?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 11:26:20 PM
Goals:

http://goonergoals.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2007, 07:59:03 AM
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The question is - does Arsene continue with the likes of Almunia, Hoyte, Traore, Walcott, Denilson, Diaby and Aliadiere - or play the big guns?

I think he has to stick with the young guns, they got the Arse to the final and deserve their chance...

Team I'd play

Almunia, Hoyte, Gallas, Toure, Traore, Walcott, Denilson, Fabregas, Diaby, Aliadiere and Adebayor. With Henry, Silva, Rosicky, Mad German and Senderos on the bench.

As an aside the Goons never looked like losing last night and Defoe and Keane just does not work as a partneship.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2007, 11:25:44 PM
Some interesting Arsenal/Liverpool footage of yore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhlAQgv7kE
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2007, 09:11:17 PM
Midd 1 Arse 1

Didn't see this game. Any board member report?

End of any wild title ambitions.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 10, 2007, 08:38:38 AM
Arsenal & MLS club agree link up 
 
Colorado Rapids are owned by American billionaire Stan Kroenke
Arsenal have announced a new business partnership with Major League Soccer club Colorado Rapids.
The deal is designed to build Arsenal's brand in the United States, while also helping to develop the MLS club.

"This is a very important step for Arsenal as this becomes our first venture into the US marketplace," said managing director Keith Edelman.

Colorado Rapids are owned by American billionaire Stan Kroenke's company Kroenke Sports Enterprises.

  Unless I'm completely naive it's not a takeover

Arsene Wenger

Arsenal already have a similar tie-up with Belgian side Beveren as well as an academy in the Ivory Coast.

The arrangement between the two clubs includes the development of a Centre of Excellence in Colorado, the transfer of coaching ideas and the launch of the Arsenal Cup, a club tournament open to teams from all over the US.

The deal comes just days after Liverpool's takeover by American tycoons George Gillet and Tom Hicks, and represents an increasing trend of American businessmen linking up with English clubs.

Manchester United and Aston Villa are also owned by American business tycoons, but Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said the deal was completely different to those takeovers.

"Unless I'm completely naive it's not a takeover," said Wenger.

"I've never heard about a possible takeover and I don't think that is at all behind our partnership."

"We develop a few partnerships sometimes with football schools and sometimes with clubs.

"We're trying to extend our brand and we're are also trying to extend our technical cooperation because the Americans might produce some players at some stage and that's why we're doing it.

"We're always trying to develop young players."

The Rapids will come to London to use Arsenal's facilities for six days while they continue training ahead of the MLS season which starts in April.

 
Title: Arse 2 Wigan 1
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2007, 07:32:04 PM
That's the 11th time now at home that Arsenal have fallen behind and managed to get something from the game. Perhaps Wenger should hypnotise the players into thinking they're 1-down before the game starts.

Very lucky today. Should've been a penalty when Heskey was fouled. Arsenal then score a goal with 3-fold luck. Firstly, Wigan were denied bringing on their player who had been receiving treatment. Then the through-ball was to Flamini who was in an off-side position. Finally his cross was knocked in by a Wigan defender.

Crazy Lehman booking at the end. Mad Jens will never change.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 12, 2007, 07:38:26 PM
After all the talk last week about Ronaldo v Spurs - when he "went down to easy!"

Look at this....& not a word about it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZQVtKkK9k&NR

Ronaldo would have been deported for the likes of this...blatant cheating.
This is worse thean the Rivaldo incident during the World Cup in my opinion!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
An excellent dive, though not as convincing as Rooney's  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9gwVPu6eog
Nor Ronaldo's - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkh6KQmpIxM
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 09:41:28 PM
Ronaldo didnt mean to go over, sure he could have scored if he had of stayed up. Neither of these is as bad as henry's. He was about a metre away from the man when he went over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 09:46:43 PM
No, Ronaldo didn't mean to go over at all. Completely out of character.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 09:50:47 PM
why didn't he take the open net goal, rather than a penalty which they had a chance of missing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 09:53:45 PM
Because he's that used to going over in the box. He actually tried to stay on his feet after initially diving.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 09:58:46 PM
 
Henry fell to the ground after colliding with Carles Puyol
Next time I'll learn to dive maybe, but I'm not a woman

Thierry Henry, after the 2006 Champions League final

France striker Thierry Henry has denied cheating to win the free-kick which led to his side's second goal in their 3-1 World Cup victory over Spain.
Henry fell to the ground clutching his face after colliding with Carles Puyol.

Puyol insisted the referee had made the wrong decision, adding: "If anything it was a foul by Henry."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 09:59:43 PM
he didnt just dive for the first time against wigan :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 10:13:52 PM
Who said he did?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 10:18:20 PM
Spanish coach Luis Aragones
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 10:23:31 PM
Henry, after a game in which he was repeatedly being caught offside, chose to dive when Puyol got in his way as both men went for the ball - an arm into the chest that would not have been even a foul if Henry hadn’t gone down was a free kick AND a yellow card for Carlos Puyol as Henry did a ‘Rivaldo’ and went down clutching his face

This was against spain
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 10:28:21 PM
I'll ask again, who said he dived for the first time v Wigan?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: maxpower on February 13, 2007, 10:33:36 AM
I think the point of the original post is that when Ronaldo when over against Middlesborough or against Spurs the inquest lasted for days, and the media where only to happy to label him a cheat.

yet Henry does it regularly, and never a negative word mentioned about him, its almost as if the media are saying 'we don't want to piss him off or he'll go to Barcelona and we don't want that'

I don't just say this because of my anti arsenal bias, in the Utd spurs game ferdinand when down like an old woman when keane was nowhere near - again not a word, he's english, they don't dive, its that continential thing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 13, 2007, 11:48:27 AM
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yet Henry does it regularly, and never a negative word mentioned about him, its almost as if the media are saying 'we don't want to piss him off or he'll go to Barcelona and we don't want that'

I'd have to contest that. I can only think of two occasions in the time he's been at Arsenal that he's done that. Henry was a bastion of fair play in his first 5-6 years at Arsenal but in recent years I admit he has become slightly cynical.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 13, 2007, 11:51:12 AM
That was my point Max.

Fair play O'Neil!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on February 13, 2007, 04:23:42 PM
Forget the shite talk lads, Henry is still the best player to have ever played in the premiership, on his day, completely unstoppable as many a defender will agree! This season he hasnt been his usual best but will still bang in 20+ goals!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2007, 11:54:12 PM
So Blackburn tomorrow in the cup. Brings back memories of the 05 victory.

Someone asked me recently, if Arsenal had to give their unbeaten record at Ashburton up to anyone, who'd it be? I thought a  crappy team like Hartlepool or Spurs but now think it'd be fitting if it was Barcelona or the like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 21, 2007, 02:05:36 PM
Feck it. The crucial fortnight hasn't started too well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Fearon on February 21, 2007, 02:13:30 PM
Shane you were beaten by a Electrical Factory works team last night. ;D

The fluke win against mighty Spurs has lulled the goons into a false sense of security
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 21, 2007, 02:22:47 PM
Only saw the last 30 mins and it looked very un-Arsenal like, gave away possession, no urgency in midfield, poor communication....

The Goons should win the second leg but I think it might take extra-time to shake off PSV....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 21, 2007, 02:42:14 PM

The fluke win against mighty Spurs has lulled the goons into a false sense of security

Which one are you talking about now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 21, 2007, 03:21:59 PM
from arsenal.com

Arsenal Holdings plc half-year financial results
Group turnover increased to GBP100.8 million (2005: GBP57.0 million) as a result of higher gate and match day revenues at Emirates Stadium and sale of a property development site at Drayton Park.
Operating profits before depreciation and player trading increased to GBP20.0 million (2005: GBP8.0 million).
Profits before net finance charges and taxation increased to GBP19.6 million (2005: GBP14.3 million).
GBP210 million of fixed rate bonds and GBP50 million of floating rate bonds issued in the period to refinance all of the Group’s stadium related debt. The refinancing provides a stable financial base and significant reduction in annual debt service costs for the long term. One-off, exceptional costs of GBP21.4 million associated with the refinancing result in the overall result for the period being a loss after taxation of GBP6.2 million (2005: profit of GBP9.6 million).
The redevelopment of Highbury into over 700 residential units has commenced and the demolition work has now been completed. Approximately 90% of the units released for sale at Highbury Square have already been pre-sold.
Commenting on the results for the half year Peter Hill-Wood, non-executive Chairman, said:

“As well as providing improved match day facilities and tickets for a far greater number of the Club’s supporters, the Emirates Stadium project had an objective of providing Arsenal with the financial strength and resources to compete at the very highest level in all competitions. I believe that the results for the Group’s first period in its new home demonstrate that we have already achieved this milestone.”

The six months to 30 November 2006 has been another very successful period for the Group marked by the opening of Emirates Stadium in July 2006 and the commencement of the redevelopment works at Highbury. At the end of October 2006 we were very honoured to welcome HRH Duke of Edinburgh for the official opening of Emirates Stadium. 

In November the Emirates Stadium / Arsenal on the Move project collected two awards at the 2006 London Planning Awards — “Best Built Project Contributing to London’s Future”  and the “Mayor’s Award for Planning Excellence”.  The project has also won “Best Mixed Use Regeneration Project” at the 2006 Regeneration Awards, a commendation from the 2006 Structural Steelwork Awards and has been nominated for the “Major Project Award” at the Quality in Construction Awards.

We have set ourselves very high targets for the standard of match day experience which we want to provide for all of our supporters at Emirates Stadium with its increased capacity, use of technology and significantly expanded corporate and hospitality facilities. This has been a major challenge and although we have been very pleased with the progress made to date we do not expect to reach our final targets for operational efficiency until the end of the season. The feedback from supporters has generally been extremely positive. Emirates Stadium has also proved to be a popular venue for conferences and other non match day events.     

In addition to the Club’s own home matches, Emirates Stadium has also played host to two prestigious international friendly fixtures; in September Brazil played Argentina and earlier this month Brazil versus Portugal. We hope that international matches of a similar stature will become a regular feature of the Emirates Stadium calendar.

The redevelopment of Highbury into over 700 apartments and penthouses commenced as soon as the first match had successfully been staged at Emirates Stadium.  We have again appointed Sir Robert McAlpine as our main contractor and they expect to have some 800 workers on site at the peak of the construction work on the 3.5 hectare site. The demolition work has already been completed whilst at the same time retaining the facades to the listed East and West Stands. The level of pre-sales of the residential units remains very strong at approximately 90% of the units released for sale.

The financial results for the period are covered in more detail below - the Group’s turnover for the period has exceeded GBP100 million and profits, before exceptional costs of GBP21.4 million and taxation, were GBP12.8 million against GBP14.6 million at the same stage last year." 

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 21, 2007, 03:25:26 PM
hope fully those results will give wenger a few quid for the summer transfers.

chelsea, blackburn,reading then psv. over the next fortnight, needs to be in top form reading and psv being the most important games, I hope  plays a full strength team in both.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2007, 07:52:34 PM
Intriguing match-up this Sunday. It looks like Wenger is sticking with his experiment. The Carling side has shown much more passion than the first team in recent weeks so I'm looking forward to this. Sort of a no-lose situation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2007, 09:42:46 PM
This 'young' Arsenal side is a bit of a myth is it not? If you take the two sides from Arsenal and Chelsea that completed the 2nd leg of the LC semi, Arsenal's average age is 23.5, while Chelsea's is 25. In fact take 34yo Makalele out of if and Chelsea's age is 24.

Hardly a world of difference!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2007, 09:56:20 PM
A myth, you must be joking. Arsenal's 'average' is pumped up by Almunia and Gilberto. To average 23.5 is incredible.

In the Carling Cup, Arsenal have fielded Denilson (19), Walcott (17), Traore (17), Diaby (20), Djourou (19), Fabregas (19), Connolly (19), Randall (17), and throw in Clichy, Hoyte, Senderos and you've one hell of a young team.

Besides, the serious lack of experienced players Arsene has used has been phenomenal. In all 5 games he has played Jeremie Aliadiere, Manuel Almunia, Denilson, Armand Traore & Theo Walcott - they're our carling Cup foundation!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2007, 10:35:54 PM
Don't get me wrong O'Neill, you have some fine players coming through, but I don't think they are as good as the hype. Perhaps by 4:50 on Sunday, I might edit this post.

Chelsea have some fine youngsters coming through too, but will Jose play them...ever?

Woods, Maciene, Sahar, Jimmy Smirh, Sinclair, Jack Cork, Stoch etc etc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2007, 10:41:58 PM
There is the possibilty that the final against a team like Chelsea is a step too far for the youngsters. I have actually bet on Chelsea on winning by 4 or more goals (and Arsenal winning on penalties to keep it interesting).

In terms of hype, the 6-3 win at Anfield against a team that possessed Dudek, Aurelio, Hyypia, Gerrard, Gonzalez, Luis Garcia, Carragher, Alonso, Bellamy and Fowler was some achievement no matter what happens on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 25, 2007, 04:20:44 PM
that was a hell of a kick on the Face JT took
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on February 25, 2007, 04:27:46 PM
jaysus your right, a savage kick he got. hopefully he will be right. score at the minute for anyone is still 1.1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on February 25, 2007, 05:39:31 PM
The Gooners are gonners!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2007, 05:58:05 PM
Apart from the result, that was a pleasure to watch. Fair play to Wenger for keeping to his experiment. Up until the Terry incident, Diaby was playing a stormer. It seemed to affect him badly. I'd have had Adebayor on for Baptista at HT.

Well done Chelsea - Drogba always had Senderos's number. Pity the discipline of the older guys (Toure, Adebayor, Lampard) went at the end.

Very proud of the way the young'uns played. The passing was phenomenal. 

Fearon will be unbearable. Expect 409 threads on North London.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Truth on February 25, 2007, 06:03:16 PM
Apart from the result, that was a pleasure to watch. Fair play to Wenger for keeping to his experiment. Up until the Terry incident, Diaby was playing a stormer. It seemed to affect him badly. I'd have had Adebayor on for Baptista at HT.

Well done Chelsea - Drogba always had Senderos's number. Pity the discipline of the older guys (Toure, Adebayor, Lampard) went at the end.

Very proud of the way the young'uns played. The passing was phenomenal. 

Fearon will be unbearable. Expect 409 threads on North London.

Wenger has an unbelievable ability for unearthing young players. I think todays game showed Arsenal have a bright future and they have the makings of a great team, on the other hand where will Chelsea be when Abramovich jumps ship?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2007, 06:48:18 PM
I thought the Chelsea fans were shockingly poor in one section of the crowd. This photo wasn't an isolated incident:

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2007, 12:54:08 AM
I think Fabregas was extremely childish when the Chelsea fans were 'cloding him'. It's only a lump of fecking celery. It's a traditional Chelsea think to bring celery to Cup finals, and throw it each other, and onto the pitch. Fabregas' ability to milk it, only encouraged this behaviour.

This, his petulance at the end, and his swipe at Hughes last week is a pity for young Cesc. Fine a player he is, he'd need to start growing up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2007, 08:36:33 AM
The Chelsea fans were disgraceful. I'm fully aware of their celery tradition but it's not the done thing to throw the celery at opposing players when they're trying to take a corner. This happened on three occasions.

As for the Cesc/Hughes incident, as the Sunday Times explained, there was only one man lacking class - and that was Hughes. As he walked off, Cesc asked Hughes if he had played for Barcelona and when Hughes replied in the affirmative Fabregas said 'that's not Barcelona football'. In the context of what is said on a field every day, pretty harmless stuff. Hughes' reply was "f*** off you f*****. F*** f***' etc etc. Fabregas, unbeknownst to Arsene and Arsenal went to Hughes afterwards and apologised. This was just after Hughes went whinging to the press.

For a 19-year old, Fabregas is remarkably mature. Lampard actually apologised yesterday, saying that he thought Fabregas was being aggressive but now realises he was trying to break up Toure and Mikel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2007, 10:52:23 AM
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I think Fabregas was extremely childish when the Chelsea fans were 'cloding him'. It's only a lump of fecking celery.

Hmm, are you serious? The Chelsea fans were muppets, end of. Bring their celery but to throw it as players is wrong, simple as that, next you'll be codoning pigs heads...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 27, 2007, 11:35:31 AM
the whiney wee w**ker was lucky Sparky didnt wail into him! now THAT would have been worth watching.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on February 27, 2007, 03:24:22 PM
the highlight of sunday for me was the performance of Denilson, up against essien and lampard he was majestic, another gem unearthed by Monsieur Wenger!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2007, 11:13:28 PM
I should probably calibrate my comments by stating that I in no way condone fans throwing objects onto the pitch, but it was only celery, not coins or fireworks. The game of football is too sanitised these days. Done at the Bridge you are not allowed banners into the ground....in case they go on fire!

My point was that I fely Fabregas milked the situation, and over reacted. If he had've ignored it the first time and got on with it, it would've stoped...sorta.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gold on February 27, 2007, 11:41:52 PM
Cesc was defo the aggressive v Lampard--he needs clipped
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 07:56:54 AM
Senderos, Senderos, Senderos, 2 games 2 defeats he's just not good enough....

I hate agreeing with Andy Gray because he really hasn't a clue but half way through the second half he stated Blackburn will win this 1 - 0, the Goons didn't take their chances and were mugged. Mark Hughes is a knob, 2 shots on target and they deserved to win it  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 01, 2007, 08:18:16 AM
Mark Hughes is a knob, 2 shots on target and they deserved to win it  ::)

Thats the boy Dinny, always gracious in defeat :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2007, 08:24:46 AM
A doubt Hansen was ahead of his time....

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Senderos, Senderos, Senderos, 2 games 2 defeats he's just not good enough....

Is it not 3 defeats? Or are you only talking about domestic games?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 08:28:31 AM
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Thats the boy Dinny, always gracious in defeat

 ;D

Does sound a bit ungracious but I just wish managers would be honest. Two penalty appeals turned down, 1 of which was stone wall and about 6 other wasted opportunities, Blackburn didn't defend well so how he can say they deserved it is beyond me. Blackburn are a poor man's Bolton and Mark Hughes is still a knob....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 08:33:06 AM
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Is it not 3 defeats? Or are you only talking about domestic games?

Just the last two games where Senderos was directly culpable for the goals conceded. A season in the Championship is what he needs, he's just too young and inexperienced for the Premiership. He has no pace either but as Terry proves pace isn't everything....

Maybe I'm being harsh on the chap but I can't remember him every having a good game..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2007, 09:36:30 AM
He actually had a decent World Cup. Apart from the goal he had a good game last night. Unfortunately, the lapses in concentration are criminal though he shouldn't have been playing right back last night.

The PSV game in monumental to the season now. Strangely I wasn't upset at either defeat in the cups. My silver lining is that I am now going to see them v Bolton on the 14th April as they're out of the cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 09:45:59 AM
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He actually had a decent World Cup.

For a Swiss side that put 10 players behind the ball and the game is a lot slower. I hope he proves me wrong but he's just not good enough at the mo'.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 01, 2007, 01:39:18 PM
Hope Arsenal fans have finally realised what the madristas already cottoned onto - Baptista is a complete buffoon. No touch, no positioning, can't score and goes over very easy for a man with his build.

Awful, awful player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2007, 10:45:39 PM
For those interested - Arsenal v Reading live on RTE tomorrow.

Serious injury/suspension problems. 14 players to choose from he says.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 03, 2007, 12:57:18 PM
baptista will take time to settle, but he will come good eventually. I just hope its not too long
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2007, 04:23:52 PM
baptista will take time to settle, but he will come good eventually. I just hope its not too long

Good call - he just scored!
Title: Arse 2 Reading 1
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2007, 10:16:11 PM
A mixed bag today. Sublime football for the majority mixed with some criminal misses - check out Fabregas's. At 2-0 and coasting, Wenger makes the 'must-not-do' substitution and brings on a defender as Arsenal are defending a corner. Who is it? - Senderos! What does he do? Gets his head onto the ball but sends it towards Lehmann. On its way it hits Fabregas and goes in. Then Senderos gets booked. All this happens after his 87th minute introduction! Senderos is quickly approaching Stephanov legendary status.

Baptista - what can you say - - strong as a bull. Intelligence of a gnat. Very frustrating player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2007, 12:23:00 PM
on the evidence of the last week, we really only have 3 reliable centre backs, gallas,toure and djourou (scaping the barrell). I dont know what connolly is going to to be like. in the summer we really need to buy another, also a keeper and maybe another striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 09:51:00 PM
Been a long time since Arsenal have had no interest in any competition from March.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 07, 2007, 10:02:05 PM
Surprised with this result. I know PSV are a decent side...but they will be the team eveyone wants in the draw on Friday!

Arsenal probably just miss a couple of, dare I say it...English type players. The likes of Hargreaves & Woodgate!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 07, 2007, 10:09:44 PM
Arsenal all fur coat and no knickers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:11:44 PM
Arsenal just dont have the nuts for it when the going gets tight.....Too many players preening and prancing, you are allowed to shoot from outside the box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 10:26:38 PM
You boys would make great British journos. The same team reached the Champions' League final last year. You can't do it every year. Nothing to do with English players - when have England won anything worthwhile? Last year it was Henry/Pires/Reyes/Fabregas/Toure that propelled them to the final. The year they went the seaon unbeaten it was Henry/Pires/Vieira/Edu/Gilberto/Toure...don't regurgitate your British press please.

The going was tight when 1-0 down to Utd with 10 mins left. Scored 2. When they beat Liverpool 3-0, 3-1 and 6-3 there was little lacking.

Today can be put down to a serious slump in cup form not helped with with Henry on one leg, Van Persie out, Gallas unfit, Rosicky out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:36:36 PM
You boys would make great British journos. The same team reached the Champions' League final last year. You can't do it every year. Nothing to do with English players - when have England won anything worthwhile? Last year it was Henry/Pires/Reyes/Fabregas/Toure that propelled them to the final. The year they went the seaon unbeaten it was Henry/Pires/Vieira/Edu/Gilberto/Toure...don't regurgitate your British press please.

The going was tight when 1-0 down to Utd with 10 mins left. Scored 2.
Who is talking about English players?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 10:38:28 PM
Can't you read?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:40:04 PM
Did i mention English players in my post cocksucker?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 07, 2007, 10:42:34 PM
Was he replying to you?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 10:43:58 PM
I never read your post, and now that I have I see that you've nothing to offer. This time last year they ousted Madrid, then Juventus, then Villarreal all in tight games. They've won extremely tight games at home all season when in impossible situations. They've defeated Utd twice this season in tight games. They've defeated Liverpool three times. They were minutes from beating Chelsea.

However, a lack of cup form has seen them out tonight. Nothing to do with balls (which they've shown all season be it the reserves or first team).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 08, 2007, 09:01:41 AM
Jasas Syd calm the head lad!!! - You get excited to easily!!

It was me!!! I just thought that if Arsenal had a couple of dogged English player in the spine of their team they might be a harder side to beat!

Arsenal underperformed in the league last year, & have missed Sol Campbell & Viera in my opinion! - I thought the 2 names I suggested would be adequate replacements!?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 10:28:05 AM
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Arsenal underperformed in the league last year, & have missed Sol Campbell & Viera in my opinion

As a regular Arsenal watcher I can assure you that going on their last season for Arsenal they most certainly were not missed. The Gooners are paying the price for being involved in too many competitions, the 2 replays in the FA Cup were a massive factor, the players simply weren't getting a enough recovery time. Henry should not have been introduced last night but hindsight is a wonderful thing, so I agree with O'Neill in that Henry on one leg, Van Persie out, Gallas unfit and were big losses. And is akin to Chelsea playing without Drogba, Terry, Shevshenko and Lampard or Man U without Ronaldo, Vidic, Rooney and Scholes or Liverpool without Carragher, Gerrard and Alonso, they have no strikers that would be missed.

Although disappointing, this season has laid a very strong foundation for years to come.

As for the Champions League Liverpool and Chelsea are serious contenders, well organised and hard teams to score against but it's wide open, PSV are similar and only a fool would think that they would be an easy touch in the quarter-finals. Personally if I was a manager, Man U look like the weakest side left in it...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 10:42:47 AM

Delighted for the gooners.

Anything that takes bill gates and his "we don't buy players, we grow them" smarmy attitude down a peg is all good in my book.

FFS no club in the history of the game has spent as many tens of millions on teenagers.

Don't let the door hit yis on the arse on the way out
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 11:03:25 AM
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FFS no club in the history of the game has spent as many tens of millions on teenagers.

Eh! Can you list these players and their cost? By the way didn't Man U pay intially 23 million for a teenage Rooney and 12 million for a teenage Ronaldo. Your lack of knowledge beggars belief....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 11:07:43 AM

My lack of knowledge?

where have i denied any of that?

my point is united, chelsea, liverpool, etc don't play the youngsters card, pretending not to be competing in the transfer market.

your inability to read beggars belief...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: blasmere on March 08, 2007, 11:12:05 AM
The Gunners are a delight to watch unlike Chelski & Liverpool and are to be commended on their youth policy, no club in world football has better young players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 08, 2007, 11:15:30 AM
Can't say I'm sorry for Arsenal. How long has Wenger left at arsenal anyway? Is it just next season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 11:46:43 AM
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FFS no club in the history of the game has spent as many tens of millions on teenagers.

Uladh, did you not say that? Quite simply Man U spent more on two teenagers than all Arsenals teenages put together. You should think before you type  ::)

You didn't clarify your point until you posted the second time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 11:56:19 AM
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FFS no club in the history of the game has spent as many tens of millions on teenagers.

Quite simply Man U spent more on two teenagers than all Arsenals teenages put together.


I very very much doubt that. for a start, walcott cost far more that CR... great bit of business that was. i'm sure you're more versed in the detail, so tell me the amounts arsenal had to stump up in tribunals for the teenagers they've nicked, plus the millions they have already outlayed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2007, 12:31:25 PM
Again, the fools the fools - they listen the the tripe Hansen and Co spout about Arsenal continually playing youngsters and then pass it off as their own opinion.

Last night Arsenal from 1-11 played the following ages:

37,

26, 30, 30, 22

30, 20, 19, 26,

25, 23

Unless crippled by injury, or playing in the Carling Cup, Arsenal send out a team similar to the above (although missing Henry (29) and Rosicky (26) )

It's the petty lightweights who comment after the event is over, and never before, who need ignored.

Actually wasn't disappointed last night. It has been one of those seasons and believe it or not Arsenal are domestically better off than they were 12 months ago. Van Persie was shaping up as a 20-goaler this season before the injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 12:49:15 PM

We're not talking about last night in reference to the youth myth, rather the general pr.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 08, 2007, 01:02:50 PM
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As for the Champions League Liverpool and Chelsea are serious contenders, well organised and hard teams to score against but it's wide open, PSV are similar and only a fool would think that they would be an easy touch in the quarter-finals. Personally if I was a manager, Man U look like the weakest side left in it...

So Liverpool are clearly better than the team that is 19 points ahead of them in the league and has beaten them twice this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 01:07:08 PM
As for the Champions League Liverpool and Chelsea are serious contenders, well organised and hard teams to score against but it's wide open, PSV are similar and only a fool would think that they would be an easy touch in the quarter-finals. Personally if I was a manager, Man U look like the weakest side left in it...

Just as well you will never make a manager then Dinny-eh ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 01:14:17 PM
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So Liverpool are clearly better than the team that is 19 points ahead of them in the league and has beaten them twice this season?

On the European stage, absolutely, jesus Seanie even a myopic Man U fan like has to admit Liverpool were much the better side last Saturday, no?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 01:47:24 PM
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I very very much doubt that. for a start, walcott cost far more that CR

Uladh, look you're not an Arsenal fan Wlacott cost 5 million although there are clauses which will see that rise, for a lad just turned 17 he has done quite well this season and I am happy with his progress. Ronaldo who Arsenal tried to sign cost 12.4 million and only this season has really impressed. Now piss off to the Champions Elect thread and leave myself and O'Neill to wallow in our Gooners delusion
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2007, 01:57:09 PM
Dinny, can you remember the last time Arsenal had no silverware to play for in March. Can't be arsed researching it, but from memory - (I can't remember when Arsenal exited the CL in these years so they may be added)

2006 - CL
2005 - FA Cup
2004 - PL, FA Cup
2003 - FA Cup
2002 - PL, FA Cup
2001 - FA Cup, CL
2000 - UEFA Cup
1999 - PL
1998 - PL, FA Cup
1997 - ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 02:04:59 PM
First year of Wenger , 96 -97 I think. Depressing few months ahead. Seemingly not once this season has Wenger played his first choice XI and only once have Lehamann, Eboube, Toure, Gallas and Clichy have played together. You have to look at the World Cup as a pausible excuse....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 02:10:38 PM
You have to look at the World Cup as a pausible excuse....

Ah Dinny, thats right, the 2006 World Cup, exclusively for Arsenal players
It's actually called the 'Arsenal World Cup' & not the 'FIFA World Cup' - honest
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 08, 2007, 02:12:28 PM
arsenal time and time again are being recked by set pieces, The annoying thing is that was  a needless free kick given away by hleb and in the carling cup denillson gave away the ball for drogba to score from that cross. 2 incidents that could be avoided or if we had any luck would not have led to goals. I don feel we need a keeper who is commanding in the area and i would like to see arsenal buy woodgate, we have already struck uo the relationship with real madrid in the baptista / reyes transfer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 02:28:33 PM
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Ah Dinny, thats right, the 2006 World Cup, exclusively for Arsenal players

Well, if you sit down and think about it you might be shocked to learn that Arsenal and Chelsea had the most players at the World Cup, now if you think really hard you will realise that both their squads have suffered the most this year, co-incidence?, now if you think even harder you will realise that Henry had no preseason because A. He was involved in an Arsenal squad that got to the Champions League final and B A French squad that got to the World Cup final. So yes I believe the World Cup is a factor in Arsenals poor season not the total reason but a factor none the less....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 02:37:31 PM
You have to look at the World Cup as a pausible excuse....

Doesnt say it is a factor in your previous post!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 08, 2007, 02:40:35 PM
Dinny is right about the World Cup being a factor. Rooney and Heinze are definitely suffering because of it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 02:57:01 PM
Catch a grip lads
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 03:23:51 PM

Do none of the arsene lovers believe it was a massive mistake to move toure to right back and play gilberto in the heart of the defence? baffling decision by my thinking to play an unfit gallas and a midfielder at centre back when you've one of the best centre backs in the world at your disposal, no matter if he can play right back or not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Fearon on March 08, 2007, 04:03:07 PM
Sit back all you Goons, relax, and watch a N.London team containing British and Irish players, reach a European Final and actually win it.

We are holding a victory parade through the heart of Islington by the way ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 04:20:25 PM
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Do none of the arsene lovers believe it was a massive mistake to move toure to right back and play gilberto in the heart of the defence?

Have to agree unfortunately Wenger never puts much thought into his defence, but that's his philosophy I suppose...

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Sit back all you Goons, relax, and watch a N.London team containing British and Irish players,

Tony, why the British and Irish jibe, is that important to you and if so why?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Fearon on March 08, 2007, 04:30:22 PM
It shows that the club has some tentative link with the area in which its located.


I can't see Wenger or Henry hanging around much longer. Soon it'll be same old boring 1-0 to the Arsenal managed by Tony Adams.

I'm lovin' it! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 05:27:36 PM
Sport has moved on Tony...

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Soon it'll be same old boring 1-0 to the Arsenal managed by Tony Adams.

 ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 08, 2007, 10:01:41 PM
Im going to be in London on the 28th of April,so i checked out the footy fixtures and see that Arsenal are at home that weekend
Anyone know where i'd get a ticket for match? Not a Arsenal fan just thought it be nice to go see stadium and catch a match while im there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2007, 10:39:36 PM
I might be able to get you one ticket, but won't know until the end of March.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 08, 2007, 11:07:38 PM
appreciate that no hassle if you can't
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on March 09, 2007, 01:04:19 PM
Sit back all you Goons, relax, and watch a N.London team containing British and Irish players, reach a European Final and actually win it.

We are holding a victory parade through the heart of Islington by the way ;D
/quote]



Well Tony you knob, at least you could hold it in Islington and have no bother - 

Imagine a parade up The High road N17!! Robbers paradise!!! ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 09, 2007, 03:59:06 PM
has been doing the rounds

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2007, 04:32:43 PM
Henry out for the rest of the season - - fairly sums up the last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 09, 2007, 04:33:09 PM
from  arsenal.com

Thierry Henry will not play for Arsenal again this season.

The French striker damaged groin and stomach muscles in Wednesday’s 1-1 draw with PSV Eindhoven and, as a consequence, will miss the next three months of domestic and international football. Arsenal hope to have him back to full fitness for the start of the 2007-08 campaign.

“Thierry Henry will be out for a minimum of three months,” said Arsène Wenger on Friday afternoon. “Unfortunately this means he will now miss the rest of this season both domestically and internationally, but we are confident that he will be ready for the start of next season.”

- i suppose since we are out of the cups it is best that he gets fit for next season. I just hope he is still there and that we see him back at his best.
we still should have enough to get 4th (perhaps third) with baptista, adebyor and maybe maybe van persie back in april.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2007, 08:26:08 PM
1-0 up away to Villa after 30 mins (Diaby)

Strange feeling although the team's playing with freedom.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2007, 10:01:31 PM
Finished 1-0.

Title challenge back on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 15, 2007, 01:28:45 PM
Are none of you Gooners worries at the suggestion that AW is going to spend 8mill on that clown Baptista????? :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on March 15, 2007, 07:13:34 PM
Finished 1-0.

Title challenge back on.

As in the challenge for the title of third-best premiership team? :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 16, 2007, 09:18:34 AM
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Are none of you Gooners worries at the suggestion that AW is going to spend 8mill on that clown Baptista?

Well I sooner The Beast than JAA, he has been a bit hit and miss, more miss I'd admit but his early season was dogged by injury, he's a muscular option and in RVP, TH and Adenbayor you have 4 strkers very different in their approach...
Title: Toffees 1 Arse 0
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2007, 08:39:07 PM
First league defeat of 2007, in much the same manner as those in 2006. Plenty of nice passing and possession - little bite in the box. (although having your #4 and #5 strikers doesn't help).

On the plus side the suspensions are up and RVP is nearing an end-of-season return. The game in hand v Man City is looking crucial as i think Liverpool will exact revenge for the earlier maulings, in a fortnight.

Gilberto is no centre-back. Aliadiere couldn't score against Tyrone at the minute. Good to see Rosicky back. Diaby getting back to his pre-injury form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 28, 2007, 11:48:58 AM
Im going to be in London on the 28th of April,so i checked out the footy fixtures and see that Arsenal are at home that weekend
Anyone know where i'd get a ticket for match? Not a Arsenal fan just thought it be nice to go see stadium and catch a match while im there

This match has sold out, sorry.
Title: http://arseblog.com/WP/2007/04/01/liverpool-make-arsenal-march-fools-at-anfield
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2007, 11:07:38 AM
Liverpool make Arsenal March fools at Anfield


As bad as going out of three cup competitions inside two weeks was yesterday’s game at Anfield was, for me, the true nadir of this season. A listless, lethargic Arsenal were taken apart by Liverpool and Peter Crouch who scored a great hat-trick. About 15 minutes in I texted a mate saying ‘We’ll lose this by two or three goals’, half hoping I’d be so incredibly wrong it’d turn things around but mostly because that’s how it looked. At the end I was almost pining for the internationals. So much for having real football back.

The first came when Liverpool put it in from our left and Crouch, known for his lightning pace, got there before Kolo Toure. The second came from a cross from the right, William Gallas didn’t even bother jumping and Crouch beat Diaby, who was at least trying to get back, to power a great header past Jens. Half-time 2-0 and we’d barely had a shot in anger although Adebayor headed over from a corner.

In the second half Adebayor hit the post with a good left footed effort. Their third came from a set piece. A free kick on the right was whipped in and Agger got there before a static Baptista (is there any other kind?) to glance home the header. Then Adebayor had a good header touched onto the post by Reina before Rosicky and Freddie came on for Baptista and Diaby. With 18 minutes left we got one back when Gallas touched it over the line after a corner had beaten everyone but there was no comeback, only time for Liverpool’s fourth. Again the ball came in from the right, Crouch turned Kolo inside out and finished with aplomb. 4-1 Liverpool and there was only time for one more moment which summed up Arsenal’s day. We had a free kick in a central position, with players in the box and Cesc just hoofed it over the bar. Awful.

We’ve lost heavily before. There was 6-1 at Old Trafford and a 4-0 at Anfield a few years back but I can’t remember us being quite so abject before. The lack of effort from some players was worrying and the lack of any discernable footballing ability from others equally so.

I have to question the manager’s team selection. With two players in Freddie and Rosicky who can play wide why did we not choose one of them? Diaby could have played in the middle with Cesc but to put him wide left with those two options on the bench is truly puzzling. Denilson is a tidy young footballer but I’m not sure he’s as good as we like to think he is, yet. Hleb and Baptista were absolutely atrocious. I’ve had quite enough of Hleb giving the ball away and not bothering to even look as if he’s going to try and get it back. Please get rid of him. Please. Baptista is just dreadful. He missed a glorious chance in the first half and if his first touch is bad his second and third are often worse. He’s obviously not going to be around next season so he should only play as a last resort because he’s not even trying. Freddie could easily have done a job up front today or we could have played a 4-5-1.

At the back we were a complete shambles. If that’s our ‘first choice’ back four then I’m worried. Gallas and Toure were torn to shreds, not just once either, and I hope the fans who gave Senderos such a hard time this season will realise that perhaps our defensive woes are more down to the lack of defensive organisation and coaching than the individual abilities of the players. Gallas hardly won a header all day from Crouch. I realise there’s a big height difference but I lost count of the amount of times he had free headers or even time to take the ball down and pass it because nobody went near him. That’s just not good enough. Is it any coicidence that our back four last season, when Martin Keown was working with them, set a new Champions League record for clean sheets and time without conceding? Remember that was a back four with this season’s scapegoat, Philippe Senderos, and Mathieu Flamini at left back. I don’t know who our defensive coach at the moment is but I suspect it must be Jeff Blockley.

The one bright spot was Adebayor who, despite the almost complete lack of service did hit the post twice and looked like he was interested in the game. I want to mention Cesc too. He was quiet and ineffective but when he’s got shite like Baptista in front of him, doing nothing, and shite like Hleb outside him, often not wanting the ball, then it’s hard for a central midfield player. We certainly would have had much more movement if we’d started Freddie and Rosicky and the manager’s insistence on packing his midfield with central midfielders is worrying. I wonder is Mathieu Flamini injured as well. As I mentioned above people seem to have decided that Denilson is a great player after a couple of no-pressure performances because nobody expected anything from him. I know he’s not everyone’s favourite but we could have done with Flamini’s workrate and industry in midfield yesterday.

It strikes me that there’s a real danger that too many fans prefer the player with the odd pretty pass and dragback to the player who is consistently effective in a game. The attitude of some of the players concerns me as well. We won the Cup Winners Cup in 94 with a squad that, in terms of technical ability, wouldn’t get near most of this lot - particularly midfield - but who had a will that won them games. They knew they’re weren’t brilliant so they worked like c***ts to make up for it. This lot have everyone telling them how great they are and they’re not putting in the hard work which would make them fantastic. Most of them haven’t won anything yet. The praise of pundits and newspapers doesn’t matter at the end of the day. Even at the start of the second half yesterday we were passing it around like it was a training match. There was no drive, no pace, no aggression, no determination, no snapping into tackles (although Cesc was hampered by being booked for a perfectly good challenge on Alonso).

Is that all down to the players or is the manager culpable in this? Where is the leadership? Where was the person who looked at the way we played on the pitch today and said “This is not good enough! Come on Arsenal. We can do better than this!”? I didn’t see William Gallas, so eager to talk to his journalist friends, doing anything to lead the young players. I saw Kolo clap his hands once or twice but there’s no doubt we missed Gilberto and overall we miss somebody who won’t stand for the kind of lazy crap we got some from of our players and will give them a bollocking to snap them out of it.

Afterwards, Arsene said:

Defensively our performance was horrendous. If we want to finish third now we will have to produce better performances than that. We are not certain of being in the top four.

No arguing with any of that from here and it is positive that he’s said it. It’s not the normal stuff he usually comes out with in the wake of a defeat. At one stage there was a shot of him on the TV and you could see him looking in almost disbelief at some of the players.

Let’s hope, because it’s the only positive we can take from yesterday, that some lessons are learned from this. Not so much by the players but by the manager. Some of the faith he has in some of the players is misplaced. Some of these players have to go. Some new ones have to come in if we want to challenge for the title next season and more than anything the attitude has to change. After their first goal heads went down and that was only four minutes in. After their second if was obvious there was no way back.

He’s got a whole week to work with them ahead of the West Ham game. In a way I feel sorry for him with some of them but at the end of the day they’re his players, he brought them to the club he has to get them to perform. The buck stops with the manager and it’s down to him now to get enough out of these guys between now and the end of the season to secure a top 4 place.

Take it away, Arsene.[/i]
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 02, 2007, 11:23:28 AM
Haven't read such an over the top whinge in quite a well, that writer exceeds himself..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 02, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
great result for Utd, Arsenal in need of points against chelsea suits me fine!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2007, 09:48:20 PM
Man U 3 Arsenal 3 on aggregate in extra time of Youth Cup.

Utd really should be winning this easy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2007, 09:56:42 PM
4-3 Utd.

That's more like it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2007, 09:16:34 AM
O'Neill,

Any highlights of the youths match available?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2007, 09:41:29 AM
Not as yet but there will be soon.

As regards the article above, the writer isn't too far off the mark with many of his comments although I still feel it's worth persevering with Hleb.

Ian Wright said yesterday that the days of Wenger building a team of relative unknowns and making them Champions are dead and gone. He reckons the bar has been raised so high in terms of Utd and Chelsea buying top-class ready-made talent that Wenger has to start competing for those big-name signings. He has a point here. There is no doubt we have some wonderful talent and the double over Utd, treble over Liverpool and the performance at Stamford Bridge proves that. However, when it comes to grinding out victories against teams that decide to kick you around the field, Arsenal simply don't have the maturity and experience to cope with it. Until last year, Vieira, Pires, Campbell, Keown, Henry, Ljungberg etc brought that wealth of experience and know-how wherever they went. I think AW got the balance wrong this year in terms of age and experience although his hand was forced with long term injuries to Gallas, Ljungberg, Henry and Van Persie.

The question remains, will it all have been worth it? The lads have competed in a Carling Cup final, won at Old Trafford and Anfield - will that result in a young yet dynamically experienced and technically gifted side in 6-12 month's time?

Sometimes it's good to remember the 99-01 years - some terrible results but he got it right in the end in '02 and the invincibles of '04.

I see Cygan is playing great stuff for Villarreal and Pires scored at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2007, 07:11:31 PM
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KROENKE BUYS 9.99% GUNNERS STAKE

American entrepreneur Stan Kroenke has bought a 9.99% shareholding in Arsenal.

ITV plc this evening announced they had unconditionally sold their 9.99% shareholding interest in Arsenal Holdings plc to Kroenke-controlled KSE UK INC.

Kroenke Sports Enterprise have also co-owned American Football franchise St Louis Rams following their relocation to Missouri, while NBA side Denver Nuggets and the NHL's Colorado Avalanche are now too under the group's umbrella.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/04/05/SOCCER_Arsenal_Kroenke.html&TEAMH D=soccer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 07, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
Arsenal's splendid run of form continues. 30 shots on goal. 14 corners. 0 goals.

On the bright side, my visit to the Emirates next Saturday v Bolton now has some edge to it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2007, 07:51:31 PM
Took a run down to the Emirates on Saturday. Was mightily sad seeing Highbury in its present state. Only the outside East Stand really remains. McAlpine has her well dug out now.

As for Ashburton - all I can say is that it's a big modern stadium. Nothing more and nothing less than I expected. Plenty of food, bookies, drink etc. Good views. Still not 'Arsenal' yet but that'll take time.

As for the game it was same old for the first half hour. Dominating possession but seriously nervy at the back and when Anelka scored you could see the will drain from most of the team. Only for the passion and drive of Rosicky Bolton could have grasped the game by the scruff. Hleb really disappointed me. I was a big fan of his til Saturday. Tidy on the ball but no end product. He'd make you dizzy watching him. A good player to have when your team is dominating though. Gallas and Eboue were ropey enough. Toure is captain material and Clichy is as good as Cole was at that age. Gilberto sits back and shields the defence. Fabregas oozes class but sometimes looked like no one else was on his wavelength. Ljungberg tracks hard and battles. Not many miles left on the legs though. Adebayor was horrendously lazy first half but inspirational second half. Don't see him as a league winner though.

Baptista takes serious stick from the crowd as it is affecting him. Good on the ball going forward but no brain whatsoever when it comes to pass/shoot. Diaby is a real prospect and it was refreshing to see Wenger play him up front. I like the look of him.

Man City tonight.
Title: Arse 3 Manchester 1
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2007, 10:54:13 PM
A decent result which should secure top 4. Diaby was most impressive again but extremely unlucky to come off early. Great goal by Cesc. Rosicky becoming more and more a Ljungberg in his prime, great cross by Eboue......and the Beast even scored!

The goals:

1-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=894013

1-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=894198

2-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=894439

3-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=894460
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on April 17, 2007, 10:55:28 PM
Anyone know the URL to that Chinese website that show on the Premiership Games live?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2007, 10:57:09 PM
Are you talking about www.myp2p.eu......doesn't need to be Chinese.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 18, 2007, 06:05:01 PM
David Dein has resigned  :o

God damn yanks

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=461815&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=David+Dein+leaves+Arsenal+Football+Club (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=461815&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=David+Dein+leaves+Arsenal+Football+Club)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 18, 2007, 06:12:41 PM
could be the start of wholesale changes in the board room, looks like the yanks are wanting the whole club
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 18, 2007, 06:15:56 PM
Vice-chairman Dein leaves Arsenal  (From BBC)
 
Dein's sudden departure from Arsenal is a stunning development
Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein has left the club with immediate effect because of "irreconcilable differences" with the rest of the board.
American billionaire Stan Kroenke has bought 9.9% of Arsenal and more shares from major stakeholder Danny Fiszman.
It sparked takeover talk, but chairman Peter Hill-Wood played down moves.
He revealed remaining board members, who own 45.45% of the remaining shares, had agreed not to dispose of their shares for at least one year.
In a statement, Hill-Wood said: "On behalf of the board I would like to express our gratitude to David Dein for the many years of loyal service he has given to the club.
"We sincerely regret that irreconcilable differences between Mr. Dein and the rest of the board have necessitated a parting of the ways."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 18, 2007, 06:20:17 PM
looks like he wanted to sell his share
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 18, 2007, 10:43:52 PM
Good ridance to the scum bag.........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2007, 10:49:04 PM
The thing about Dein is that for the most part he always had Arsenal's future at heart, usually successfully so. If he thought the investment by Kroenke was a good thing, I'd have trusted him. He was up against a board who were reluctant to sell, the latter argument being one of sentimentality. I know Dein was angry that the board were still tight on the purse strings towards Wenger, especially now that Arsenal have allegedly the most lucrative stadium in terms of internal merchandise and sales in Europe.

The big worry is that Dein and Wenger were extremely close. Unless Hill-Wood can convince Arsene that their opposition to Yankee investment will not hinder his spending prowess, then it could be bye-bye Arsene in the summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 10:52:56 PM
Arsenal statement today

Arsenal chairman snubs US buyer

Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood has sent a hands-off warning to American billionaire Stan Kroenke over any potential takeover of the club.
Kroenke recently bought 9.9% of Arsenal and also acquired more shares from major stakeholder Danny Fiszman, sparking talk of a takeover.

But Hill-Wood told the Guardian: "The shareholders would prefer to stay in control than sell out to some stranger.

"We would be horrified to see ownership of the club go across the Atlantic."

606: DEBATE
I was always against a takeover and this may put some rumours to bed

BP

Hill-Wood claims that he and three of the club's major shareholders - Fiszman, Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith and the Carr family - have "no intention of selling".

He added: "These people love Arsenal, they are independently wealthy and do not need the money. Having a few extra million pounds in the bank is of no interest to them.

"We're here for Arsenal football club, not to make a few bob. The club has been run for the benefit of supporters, staff and players."



Dein obviously wants to get in bed with the yanks, and was out voted so he walked

American backers and arab sponsors, potentially explosive mix.

Word on the bush telegraph in North west england is ther "EEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIII" is possibly sussing out a move to merseydive , poor andy johnston  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2007, 11:06:04 PM
Although only speculation, Dein could be some kind of silent partner now in the takeover, having relinquished his share. Dein was well respected by all at the club and beyond and has been instrumental in making the club what it is now. I'd imagine the smaller shareholders will feel the same way and if they all head the same way as Dein...... I sincerely hope it does happen. It wouldn't change the club's ethos a jot. They talk about the "rigid backbone of tradition" that exists at Arsenal (Bank of England and all that) so it could be a messy one if a struggle for power emerges. I'd back Dein. He's a Gunner to the core. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:17:38 PM
Dein, has been the public figure of l'arse in recent years, always good for a soundbite. The average joe will assume he is right and when he reappears in afew weeks , dollar in hand he will rely on that factor to swing the fan/shareholder that his path is right.

it begs the same question we have been asking for a few years now at Utd. What is in it for the yanks? or more so what exaclty is going to happen to the tv deals, becasue they sure as hell are not going to make any real money from shirts and an extra fiver on a brief.

some one some where has spotted a loophole in the tv contract, and they are waiting to use it.

Rem Real Madird have just been handed a fortune for thr rights to their games in an individual deal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2007, 11:28:10 PM
I don't think American takeovers are going to affect the TV deals in the future. We were heading that way already for years now.

Dein has hardly put a foot wrong for Arsenal up until now. His pursuit of Wenger could prove to be the single most important decision in the history of the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:40:43 PM
the americans WILL affect the relationship with emirates.

the money is in the TV deal, the yanks know how to work that, if and when it comes off the sponsorship from the likes of the emirate will be tiny in comparison. Utd already have an US sponsor, whos sole aim is to get their insurance products into asia. This week has seen the rearing head of the no alchohol sponsors brigade, which ties in nicely with the US take over of the vermin (note the lack of protest by fans of the local club for local people). The US has rule about who can sponsor what etc (see Mansion not getting sponsorship of utd becasue the gimps owned the bucks).

If the yanks get in, they will buy out emirates deal ala the chavs and emirates/samsung and you will have a nice western politcially , presbtyrian proof sponsor... and prices will rise, you will offically become a CUSTOMER
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2007, 11:30:54 PM
Away to the Spuds this Saturday morning. A win or a draw for the Gooners and we can all celebrate St Totteringham's Day with a pint or veno. Being honest, I think Spurs have a great chance to beat Arsenal for the first time this century on Saturday. Arsenal are still not firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2007, 11:37:53 PM
And...to get us in the mood....

Martin Jol is out shopping in town when he sees an old lady struggling with her shopping…
MJ "Can you manage, love?"
Old Lady: "Up yours Fat Boy, you took the job, you're stuck with it…"


 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2007, 11:48:12 AM
SOme gems from Baptista here - I have a feeling Arsene has told him his desicion!

Baptista cannot settle at Arsenal 
 
Julio Baptista's future at Arsenal is in doubt after he revealed he is struggling to adjust to playing in the Premiership and life in England.
The 26-year-old is on a season-long loan from Real Madrid as part of a swap deal for Jose Antonio Reyes.

Baptista told The Times: "The weather over here is killing me. We get one day of sunshine for every 30 days of rain.

"The Premiership is very hard. I enjoy making clever touches but the game is so fast I don't have time to think."

There is still a possibility of Baptista's switch being made permanent but the Brazilian indicated he would rather return to the Bernabeu at the end of the season.

"I could stay at Arsenal but right now I can't see myself anywhere for definite," he explained.

"But it is clear in my mind that I'd tackle a second chance with Real with far more maturity than I did my first.

"My girlfriend and my mother are frightened about not seeing the sun in England. They miss being in Madrid."

Baptista, known as 'The Beast', has not been impressed by some of Arsenal's rivals.

"The teams from the north of England are terrible," Baptista said. "When we play them I have counted their centre-backs booting up to 30 long balls upfield per game.
 
"The moment you stop to think, someone has taken the ball off you and knocked you to the ground.

"Over here they value a corner kick more than a fancy flick. I am lucky to be with Arsenal, as they are a team that likes to play proper football."

 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 21, 2007, 02:34:36 PM
latest

Arsenal 2
Spuds 1

Arsenal coming back from 1-0 down to take lead with ten left, c'mon arsenal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 21, 2007, 02:52:35 PM
Spurs scrape a draw, Arsenal couldnt hold a party never mind a lead!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2007, 09:57:18 PM
Happy St Totteringham's Day everyone! Earlier than last year.

Thought Spurs would win this one. With Bolton and Evertone losing, a great point.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2007, 10:36:29 PM
The goals.

Toure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDTNQxKPb8g

Adebayor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOxSZdy8jg
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on April 23, 2007, 01:08:12 PM
I see in the papers today that the Queen of England has come out as an Arsenal supporter. ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 23, 2007, 01:17:12 PM
I see in the papers today that the Queen of England has come out as an Arsenal supporter. ;)

So now their most famous supporter is the Queen? I suppose it ties in nicely with their best player being a Queen too.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2007, 11:43:05 PM
One year on...

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=464902&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=One+year+on+since+Highbury%26rsquo;s+Final+Salute
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 12, 2007, 07:12:52 PM
ARSENAL are considering a summer move for Birmingham keeper Colin Doyle after receiving a string of rave reviews about the youngster.

The strapping 6ft 5ins shot-stopper, 21, has starred for Championship promotion-chasing Blues since displacing the experienced Maik Taylor in February.

Doyle, recently called up to the full Republic of Ireland squad, has just one year left on his contract at St Andrews.

Birmingham started discussions with the youngster about a longterm deal earlier this year, but talks are yet to be finalised.

And news of the delay has reached Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger, who is eyeing up goalkeeping talent as Jens Lehmann, 37, out of contract in the summer, is yet to sign a new one-year deal at the club.

Wenger has cover in Manuel Almunia and Mart Poom, but they are not considered good enough to be the permanent No.1.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=exclusive--doyle-is-no-1-pick-for-arsene&method=full&objectid=18932922&siteid=89520-name_page.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 05, 2007, 01:17:51 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 05, 2007, 08:45:27 PM
Something odd about that photo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on June 05, 2007, 08:48:19 PM
Silvs boots? and how thin are his lower legs??

The socks decrease in length from left to right?

Henrys in it?

Henrys smiling?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 09, 2007, 08:17:53 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALLSjEYbL-8
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 09, 2007, 08:22:36 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i3DTfA03vL0&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 14, 2007, 04:50:15 PM
Next seasons fixures: Hopefully not Wenger's last:

August
Sat 11 Fulham (h)
14/15 UEFA Champions League Qualifier 1st Leg
Sat 18 Blackburn Rovers (a)
Sat 25 Manchester City (h)
28/29 UEFA Champions League Qualifier 2nd Leg

September
Sat 1 Portsmouth (h)
Sat 15 Tottenham Hotspur (a)
18/19 UEFA Champions League Matchday 1
Sat 22 Derby County (h)
Sat 29 West Ham United (a)

October
2/3 UEFA Champions League Matchday 2
Sat 6 Sunderland (h)
Sat 20 Bolton Wanderers (h)
23/24 UEFA Champions League Matchday 3
Sat 27 Liverpool (a)
Wed 31 Carling Cup 4th Round

November
Sat 3 Manchester United (h)
6/7 UEFA Champions League Matchday 4
Sat 10 Reading (a)
Sat 24 Wigan Athletic (h)
27/28 UEFA Champions League Matchday 5

December
Sat 1 Aston Villa (a)
Sat 8 Middlesbrough (a)
11/12 UEFA Champions League Matchday 6
Sat 15 Chelsea (h)
Wed 19 Carling Cup Quarter-final
Sat 22 Tottenham Hotspur (h)
Wed 26 Portsmouth (a)
Sat 29 Everton (a)

January
Tue 1 West Ham United (h)
Sat 5 FA Cup 3rd Round
Wed 9 Carling Cup Semi-final 1st Leg
Sat 12 Birmingham City (h)
Sat 19 Fulham (a)
Wed 23 Carling Cup Semi-final 2nd Leg
Sat 26 FA Cup 4th Round
Tue 29 Newcastle United (h)

February
Sat 2 Manchester City (a)
Sat 9 Blackburn Rovers (h)
Sat 16 FA Cup 5th Round
19/20 UEFA Champions League K/O Round 1st Leg
Sat 23 Birmingham City (a)
Sun 24 Carling Cup Final

March
Sat 1 Aston Villa (h)
4/5 UEFA Champions League K/O Round 2nd Leg
Sat 8 Wigan Athletic (a) or FA Cup Quarter-final
Sat 15 Middlesbrough (h)
Sat 22 Chelsea (a)
Sat 29 Bolton Wanderers (a)

April
1/2 UEFA Champions League Quarter-final 1st Leg
Sat 5 Liverpool (h) or FA Cup Semi-final
8/9 UEFA Champions League Quarter-final 2nd Leg
Sat 12 Manchester United (a)
Sat 19 Reading (h)
22/23 UEFA Champions League Semi-final 1st Leg
Sat 26 Derby County (a)
29/30 UEFA Champions League Semi-final 2nd Leg

May
Sat 3 Everton (h)
Sun 11 Sunderland (a)
Sat 17 FA Cup Final
Wed 21 UEFA Champions League Final (Moscow)

To be Arranged
Newcastle United (a)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 21, 2007, 10:30:16 PM
So, it was true afterall!

Workman finds remains at Highbury backing up piece of Arsenal folklore

A workman on the site of Arsenal's old stadium may have found evidence to back up a piece of club folklore.

It was long rumored that a horse and cart had fallen into a pit while the original North Bank stand of Highbury stadium was being built in 1913.

The story had seemingly been disproved when no remains were found during the stand's redevelopment in 1992 as part of the efforts to make the stadium an all-seater.

But on Tuesday, the Premier League club - which left Highbury a year ago for the nearby Emirates Stadium - said a worker had found two horseshoes and some wood deep beneath where the North Bank had been.

"One of the lads, who is an Arsenal fan, mentioned the story about the horse,'' said Pat Brennan, the workman who discovered the artifacts. "It's great to think that I may have found some items which have a place in Arsenal's history.''

Highbury has already been razed, with just the facades of the east and west stands remaining to be incorporated into an apartment complex.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/wires/06/19/2080.ap.eu.spt.soc.arsenal.stadium.discovery/index.html

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=472724&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Pieces+of+Arsenal+folklore+found+at+Highbury?

Van Nistlerooy?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 24, 2007, 07:19:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ4RV1qpPT8
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 02, 2007, 01:57:53 PM
Looks like Eduardo da Silva could be a decent buy..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Mentalman on July 02, 2007, 03:34:24 PM
Looks like Eduardo da Silva could be a decent buy..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY)

Think Arsene had turned up another gem here, guy has made a real impact over the last 24months, but at £8million, while not silly money, he'll be under a bit of pressue to show form pretty fast, it's not like he's another of the professors unknown kids.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 02, 2007, 07:10:42 PM
Croatia's big-game poacher strikes again

Goalscorers may be a dying breed but Eduardo da Silva's killer instinct has driven Slaven Bilic's side within striking distance of Euro 2008.
Jonathan Wilson
June 4, 2007

It was just over two years ago that I first began taking notice of Eduardo da Silva. I was drinking coffee in a restaurant in the mountains above Split, looking down over the Adriatic, interviewing Slaven Bilic. The former West Ham and Everton defender is somebody who, if you get him in the right mood, you don't really have to interview. Just set him going and the opinions and the anecdotes roll out.

He'd been on great form that morning, talking about Ciro Blazevic and the '98 World Cup, about the war, about his love of London, about his job as Croatia Under-21 coach. And then he leaned forward across the table with an air of seriousness. "There is a boy," he said, "who is very special. He came from Rio when he was 15, and you could put him now in the team at Manchester United and you wouldn't know he wasn't from there. Believe me, he will do things."

He was right. He has.

To say that Da Silva is the only reason that Croatia lead their Euro 2008 qualifying group would be unfair. Luka Modric, with his Jesper Olsen hair and his Arnold Muhren touch, is a sumptuous player, always finding angles; Robert Kovac remains implacably solid; and Vedran Corluka has emerged as one of the most promising right-backs in Europe. But Da Silva is the main reason.

We live, we are constantly told, is an age without goalscorers; there is a need for forwards to be able to do more than simply stick the ball in the net. A Gerd Müller, a Paolo Rossi or a Gary Lineker would, supposedly, have no place in the modern game. Zoran Filipovic, the former Red Star coach who is now manager of Montenegro, suggested that the levels of fitness and defensive organisation these days mean that the opportunities, the gaps and the mistakes, on which poachers used to rely, no longer exist.

To an extent, he is probably right. And yet, at 24, Da Silva has a goals-to-game record that stands comparison with the great goalscorers of any age. Admittedly he has yet to do it at the very highest level, but it is surely only a matter of time before he is given that opportunity. Even bearing in mind that the Croatian league is only part of Europe's middle rank, his record is extraordinary. Last season Da Silva banged in a record 34 goals in 32 games for Dinamo Zagreb, including the first ever hat-trick in a classico against their great rivals Hajduk Split. In 100 games for Dinamo, he has scored 71 times.

What he brings to the national side is obvious. England were outplayed in Zagreb, but Bilic has since admitted that he feared the game was drifting towards a draw as Paul Robinson made three or four excellent saves and a Niko Kranjcar shot deflected wide off Rio Ferdinand.

But then, just after the hour, Niko Kovac's looping cross from the left found its way to Da Silva eight yards out. He probably could have scored by taking the easy option and heading down to his right, but Robinson was moving that way and might have reached it. So he put the header in the one place he could be sure Robinson wouldn't get to it, shaping his finish back over the goalkeeper and into the top left corner. Robinson was left looking rather foolish, something that was inevitably highlighted as he subsequently missed Gary Neville's backpass to concede a second, but perhaps rather than blaming him we should have been praising the quality of the header.

Da Silva turned a draw into a win, and he was at it again in Tallinn on Saturday, scoring his sixth of the qualifying campaign. Estonia's industry and organisation limited Croatia's chances, but when Kranjcar miscontrolled Corluca's pass, Eduardo swivelled on to the loose ball and hooked a 20-yard finish into the bottom corner. "A misplaced pass, a half-chance, and again we lose," as Estonia's coach Jelle Goes reflected. And that really was how it was.

Perhaps poachers are a dying breed, and perhaps at the very highest level the modern club game has evolved beyond them, but their worth in international football should not be discounted. Perhaps there, where the limited time players have to train together means organisation is not so stifling (Hugo Meisl, the great Austrian coach, reflected on the disparity as early as 1932), those half-chances do still occur. How often, under Sven-Goran Eriksson, did Michael Owen suddenly turn a qualifier, just as Lineker used to save England in the eighties?

Bilic has been bold in promoting young players he knew from the Under-21s, and has finally ended the endless debate about the merits of the classic Balkan style 3-4-1-2 by simply binning it. His 4-1-3-2 has provided technicians like Kranjcar and Modric, even the ageing Milan Rapajic, to prosper, but the real secret of his success, as he knew it would be two years ago, is that he has a player who scores goals.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/06/04/croatias_biggame_poacher_strik.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2007, 07:45:02 PM
Barnet 0 Arsenal 2
Adebayor 17, Barazite 66

Manuel Almunia (Lukasz Fabianski 46)
Kolo Toure (Paul Rodgers 67)
Kerrea Gilbert (Havard Nordtveit 46)
Gael Clichy (Armand Traore 46)
Mathieu Flamini
Alexandre Song (Gavin Hoyte 46)
Mark Randall (Kieran Gibbs 46)
Denilson (Henri Lansbury 56)
Theo Walcott (Francisco Merida Perez 67)
Emmanuel Adebayor (Rui Fonte 67)
Robin Van Persie (Nacer Barazite 46)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2007, 12:19:03 AM
Reyes and the Real winning goal:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=499TYSKaxKY&mode=related&search=

Loses the run of himself - http://youtube.com/watch?v=3x7gu-7WXvI&mode=related&search=

Well Holy God - http://youtube.com/watch?v=VjDyQeICLfY&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 19, 2007, 09:16:57 PM
Genclerbirligi 0
Arsenal 3
Van Persie 45, 65, Walcott 51

Arsenal

    * Manuel Almunia     * Lukasz Fabianski 46
    * Kolo Toure     * Philippe Senderos 69
    * Gael Clichy     * Armand Traore 46
    * Bacary Sagna     * Emmanuel Eboue 46
    * Denilson     * Francesc Fabregas 69
    * Mark Randall     * Tomas Rosicky 46    * Fredrik Ljungberg 69     
    * Mathieu Flamini     * Abou Diaby 69
    * Alexandre Song    * Johan Djourou 69
    * Theo Walcott    * Alexander Hleb 69
    * Robin Van Persie    * Eduardo Da Silva 69
    * Emmanuel Adebayor    * Nicklas Bendtner 69

Bacary Sagna and Eduardo made their debuts as Arsenal began their Austria tour by beating Genclerbirligi 3-0 at Bad Waltersdorf Stadion on Wednesday night.

The French full back played the first half and the Croatian striker came on for the final 21 minutes in this comprehensive victory over the side that had finished sixth in the Turkish League last season.

Robin van Persie scored two of the goals but the other player on the scoresheet, Theo Walcott, really took the eye. The 18-year-old supplied an exquisite pass for Van Persie to slide home Arsenal's first with the final kick of the first half. Six minutes after the break Emmanuel Adebayor and Denilson set up the former Southampton winger to fire low into the far corner.

The two accomplices in that move also deserve a mention for their performances. Adebayor was eager and industrious, Denilson assured and efficient. The Togolese striker set up Van Persie for his second in the 63rd minute.

Overall, it was an excellent workout for Arsène Wenger's side.

The only change from the side that had kicked-off Arsenal's pre-season campaign on Saturday at Barnet was the introduction of Sagna for Kerrea Gilbert at right back. Ten of the 12 first-team players named on the bench were making their seasonal debut, including Eduardo. The exceptions were Lukasz Fabianski and Armand Traore.

It had been roasting in this part of Austria ever since Arsenal's arrival on Tuesday. The players knew all al about it, they had been training in it for two hard days. Fortunately the heat had started to dissipate by the time the game kick-off at 7pm (CET) but it was still painfully warm.

Despite that the start was not lethargic. Within 50 seconds, Manuel Almunia was forced to tip over as Okan Ozturk let fly from the right-channel.

In the fifth minute, Robin van Persie's raking cross-field ball was controlled deftly by the sprinting Theo Walcott on the right flank but he just failed to find Adabayor in the centre.

Genclerbirligi responded when Sandro's mazy dribble and shot was smuggled around the post.

Adeabyor was looking full of energy. In the 12th minute he charged down a clearance on the halfway line, sprinted down the right, skipped past Lamin's lunge and pulled the ball back for Van Persie eight yards out. Unfortunately the Dutchman lent back as he struck the ball and skied his effort horribly over the bar.

However he did make amends on the quarter-hour by forcing Genclerbirligi keeper Gokhan into a flying save.

By now the game has seemed to settle into a pattern of Arsenal having the majority of the play, but their opponents having the best chances.

That continued in the 28th minute when Sandro's right-wing corner was nodded on to the unmarked Tolga Dogantez at the far post. Almunia was out typically quickly to smother hits shot.

Ten minutes before the break, Adebayor broke clear and fed the ball back to Randall, who in turn set up Van Persie just outside the area. His shot was low and firm but Gokhan gathered at the second attempt.

It had been a relatively mundane 45 minutes albeit with some moments of quality. The best move brought the opening goal on the whistle. Walcott picked up the ball on the right and turned on the turbo to breezed past his marker before sliding a wonderfully weighted ball to the far post. Robin van Persie did the rest with a low finish.

Walcott was involved at the start of the second half, forcing Gokhan to save with his feet at the near post. Almost immediately, Adebayor sent a cross-shot whistling past the far post.

Arsenal looked like they wanted to kill off the game. They virtually did in the 51st minute. Denilson strode through midfield and fed the ball to Adebayor on the left. He passed back to the Brazilian who elected to let the ball run. His dummy fooled the Genclerbirligi defence and Walcott found the far corner of the net with aplomb.

Suddenly the rust was starting to fall off Arsenal. They began to move through the gears with ease; a fact amply illustrated by their third goal in the 65th minute. Adebayor held up the ball with intelligence before laying the ball to Van Persie to rifle home.

Eduardo made his appearance soon afterwards. He first touch sent a questioning ball to the far post which a defender had to turn behind. Eleven minutes from time, he tricked his way past his marker on the right and sent over a teasing cross that Ljungberg nodded wide.

On the strength of his 21 minutes, they'll much more to come.



http://www.arsenal.com/matchreport.asp?thisNav=fixtures&fxid=319627
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 23, 2007, 03:02:04 PM
And Freddie is gone, one of my favourites, good business sense as he has lost his pace and is very injury prone but another experienced pro gone, the Goons average age must be 16 now....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 23, 2007, 05:46:15 PM
saw highlights of it on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeu5ZeQvn7U&mode=related&search=), theo seemed sharp as hell, completely skinned defender for crossing to RVP, Sagna looks to fit in straight away with his runs down the flank, wonder will wenger use eboue as right winger this year?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 23, 2007, 08:41:28 PM
Great memories Freddie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 23, 2007, 09:18:44 PM
freddie will be missed bigtime, he lost his pace due to numerous injuries over the past few seasons but he still was able to arrive into the box late and claim the odd goal...plays his heart out everytime he put on the jersey, some great memories! he'll be missed!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 24, 2007, 02:16:47 PM
freddie will be missed bigtime, he lost his pace due to numerous injuries over the past few seasons but he still was able to arrive into the box late and claim the odd goal...plays his heart out everytime he put on the jersey, some great memories! he'll be missed!

maybe a few seasons ago, but not over the last few years. I think wenger has done well again , to get 3 million(ish) for him at this stage of his career. Took these stats from sky

                                      1998-99 1999-00* 2000-01 2001-02 2002-03 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07
Appearances                       16           26            30      25         20        30           26        25         18
Goals                                  1             6               6       12         6          4            10        1            0
Goal Assists                          0             2              6         4          1         5              8        3            0

saying that he will probably score against us next season!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on July 24, 2007, 02:30:38 PM
Ljunberg is a  tube, even dyed his hair red for the FA Cup semi final against the authentic N.London club in 2001 >:(

Still he has made a wise choice, he is more likely to enjoy success at Upton Park next season than the Haemorrhoids Stadium ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 29, 2007, 06:30:44 PM
Watched a bit of the Emirates Cup over the weekend, poor fair on Saturday but the goons looked much sharper against Inter, peach of a goal by Van Persie to win it, will definitely be the youngest side in the premiership next season...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 29, 2007, 11:41:52 PM
absolutely brilliant goal by RVP today...hes gona be massive for us this coming season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 02, 2007, 10:13:13 AM
Ajax tournament tonight, should be a good warm-up..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wesaysanchez on August 04, 2007, 10:16:09 PM
Another good win tonight, 1-0 over Ajax. Van Persie scored the winner in the 87th and was then taken out immediately after - looked serious. Ajax were extremely dirty throughout and seemed to target home-man RVP. AW lost the nut. With Adebayor out as well as this  - bad timing. Still, a second pre-season tournament trophy.

Second half coming up now on - mms://live.wm.arsenal.servecast.net/arsenal_wmlz_xx_secure_live450k
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2007, 05:04:23 PM
Arse 2 Fulham 1

Same old same old. Own he ball, try to walk it into the net. Lehmann is a serious liability now. Hleb and Rosicky are talented ball players but their goals to shots ratio must be the worst in the league, that's when Hleb decides to shoot.

A win's a win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on August 12, 2007, 07:06:24 PM
Who's back-up keeper now at Arsenal? or will Wenger have any faith in him?
Lehmann is a real liability, laughable error today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 12, 2007, 08:38:32 PM
Haven't seen the highlights yet so can't comment too much, will take the win and the belief this victory will give a young squad cannot be underestimated, 1 down with 7 mins to go and win 2 - 1, great stuff. The mad German is probably past it hopefully Fabianski is up to it, Wenger is odd when it comes to goalies and defending in general...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2007, 02:31:27 PM
This brought a smile to my face..

http://www.fanbanta.com/content/assets/9379.publisha (http://www.fanbanta.com/content/assets/9379.publisha)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 14, 2007, 03:08:40 PM
Is this fella sagna any good??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 14, 2007, 05:37:32 PM
sagna is what wenger typically looks for in a full back, strong, athletic and fast.....he seems to be exact same type of player as eboue and lauren before him...saw few clips of them combining down the right against fulham, looked pretty good. also anyone see clichys run to set up RVP for goal in Ajax tournament, quality...heres to a big season where RVP will finish top goalscorer and player of the year to add to his CL medal :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2007, 05:41:37 PM
I reckon Wenger has a little cloning machine, he cloned Ashley Cole and so far Clichy, Hoyte, Eboue and Sagna have been produced. Must admit I like the look of Eboue and Sagna down the right..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2007, 05:45:03 PM
Did any of yiz read Charlie Nicholas' article in the Sunday World supplement....he fairly goes to town on Henry and his negative influence on the players in recent years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2007, 04:01:11 PM
Highlights v Prague

http://www.fcfootballblog.com/sparta-prague-0-2-arsenal-highlights/

Decent win against a robust side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2007, 09:38:29 PM
Black 1 Arse 1

Hughes and Allardyce have Arsenal's number, and continue to kick the new 'steelier' Gunners around the field. Still, with Gallas (off early), Rosicky and Eboue out as well as Adebayor, will take that result. Big Jens is having a 'nare season so far:

Jens error - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1271750

RVP goal - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1271548

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on August 19, 2007, 11:19:52 PM
Down and Connor league stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 20, 2007, 10:56:57 PM
correct hardstation, thats 2 goals we've conceeded due to errors by the mad german, i knew wenger should have let him go at the end of the season, i always thought almunia was as good a keeper as JL and apparently this young polish keeper is showing promise but wil need a year or two. will be interesting to see if wenger 'rotates' goalkeepers for the next game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2007, 09:43:26 PM
Goalkeeping crisis?

What crisis?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ApQDfnAQE0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 25, 2007, 09:00:26 PM
Arse 1 Manchester 0

Good start to the season continues. Serious defensive injury setbacks though. Bad enough losing Gallas, then Senderos does one warming up. Gilberto drafted in as emergency CB. A few mins in, Sagna collides with Flamini and he's off injured. Flamini covers for Sagna and Denilson comes on. Thought Fabregas was excellent - he seems to play better when Gilberto's around. Poor penalty by RVP. Hleb finally found a man after 519 attempts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2007, 10:36:16 PM
Love Is All Around At The Emirates

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on August 29, 2007, 10:38:31 PM
All you need is love love, love is all you need.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 31, 2007, 09:00:49 PM
Portsmouth on Sunday. Pompey put up a good fight v Chelsea. No walk over. Another narrow Arsenal victory will suffice.

The Russian involvement - they actually seem to be Arsenal fans but Dein's involvement seems more puzzling. He seems to have done on on his 'mate' Kroenke. A friend, and insider at the club, told me:

The Russian goes, with Boris. They go in the same box. The other guy - I don't know, but I would assume so.

Don't get me wrong, we don't need their money. But we knew that Dein was going to sell his shares at somepoint. He was it looked like going to join up with or sell to Kroenke. He has instead sold to an Arsenal fan who has stated in the media they are not looking to take over the club. By my books that is far far better than having he unstability of waiting for Dein to make up his mind or selling to Kroenke who would load the club with debt. They have also stated one of their most important aims is to keep Wenger. As Kroenke has said bugger all I certainly believe that most shareholders will see this as a very positive move and it removes a lot of speculation as Kroenke is very unlikely to be able to get enough shares together to do anything more now. Which is very good news for the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 01, 2007, 02:01:15 PM
Arsenal sign Lasanna Diarra for £2 million.

Decent wee signing there, although he is not as versatille as Arsene suggests. He probably didn't get the chances at Chelsea as he deserved in his best position which is the 'Maka' role. Jose tried him at RB last year, and he did ok but was turned and beat for pace many times accruing bookings along the way. Personally I'd of like to keep him over Makalele due to the age factor, but at 22 I don't think Diarra wanted to hang around.

Good Luck to him......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2007, 11:35:36 PM
BIG-MATCH FACTS

This is the 141st north London league derby between Tottenham and Arsenal, and their 31st clash in the Premier League.

Tottenham are looking for a 50th victory in the 156th competitive meeting with their near neighbours.

Arsenal have won three of their four Premier League matches this season; Tottenham have lost three of their five.

The Gunners have drawn their last four away league games; including the 2-2 stalemate at White Hart Lane on 21 April, the only occasion Arsenal have scored more than a single goal in eight Premier League outings on the road.

Spurs have not beaten Arsenal this century, nor in 18 League and Cup matches with their fierce rivals, since George Graham's side achieved a 2-1 home Premier League victory on 7 November 1999, when Steffen Iversen and Tim Sherwood were on target, and Arsenal's Martin Keown and Freddie Ljungberg were both sent off. That was Tottenham's only maximum in 23 north London League derbies.

David Pleat, Glenn Hoddle and Jacques Santini never got the better of Arsene Wenger as Tottenham managers. Now Martin Jol will make his ninth attempt to do so (in league and cup).

CLUB FORM

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
Club stats
Fixtures

1. Won one of five Premier League matches this season; 4-0, home to Derby on 18 August.

2. Managed only three clean sheets in 33 league matches.

3. Kept fewer clean sheets than any other club in the Premier League last season (six).

4. Four points after the first five outings is on a par with last season.

5. Scored eight league goals and conceded eight so far this season.

6. Lost one of the last eight home Premier League matches; 1-3, against Everton on 18 August.

7. The 4-0 victory over Derby in the last home game was their second clean sheet in 16 league outings at the Lane.

8. Completed 33 games since a Premier League no score draw; the most recent being away to Watford on 28 October.

9. Holding the highest number of different scorers in the Premier League (seven).

10. This match precedes the Uefa Cup first round first leg tie home to Anorthosis Famagusta of Cyprus next Thursday.

ARSENAL
Club stats
Fixtures

1. Won the last three in all competitions; 1-0, home to Manchester City (PL), 3-0 home to Sparta Prague (CL) and 3-1, home to Portsmouth (PL).

2. Unbeaten in 11 Premier League games; won six and drawn five since losing 0-1, home to West Ham on 7 April.

3. One of four clubs still holding an unbeaten Premier League record. The others are Blackburn, Liverpool and Newcastle.

4. Dropped just two points. Only Liverpool have also dropped so few.

5. Holding the joint highest Premier League points-per-game average of 2.5, equal with Liverpool.

6. Awarded and scored more penalties than any other club in the Premier League last season; converted 10 of 12. Already awarded three spot kicks in four outings, and converted two of them.

7. Without an away league victory in six; drawn four and lost two since beating Aston Villa 0-1 on 14 March - their only victory in eight on the road.

8. This match precedes the Champions League Group H tie, home to Sevilla of Spain on Wednesday.

KEY PLAYER NOTES

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR

Steed MALBRANQUE is Tottenham's top scorer with two Premier League goals.

If he plays:-

Jermaine JENAS will be making his 200th career league appearance (Nottingham Forest, Newcastle and Tottenham).

Jermain DEFOE will be making his 200th career Premier League appearance (West Ham and Tottenham).

ARSENAL

Cesc FABREGAS is the joint top scoring Premier League player with Nicolas ANELKA of Bolton. Both have netted four goals. All four of ANELKA's goals were in the Premier League, whereas only half of FABREGAS' total were league goals.

Arsenal's joint top Premier League scorers are FABREGAS and last season's leading marksman, Robin VAN PERSIE. They have netted two each.

If he plays:-

Gilberto SILVA will be making his 150th Premier League appearance - all for the Gunners.

If on the field from the outset:-

Gael CLICHY will be making his 50th Premier League start in an Arsenal shirt.

Justin HOYTE will be making his 50th career league start.

Suspended:-

Phillipe SENDEROS (one match)

HEAD TO HEAD

Arsenal have won one and drawn six of the last seven Premier League visits to White Hart Lane.

Tottenham have managed victory in only one of the last 11 home league matches against their north London rivals.

Home and away
League (inc PL): Spurs 45 wins, Arsenal 57, Draws 38
Prem: Spurs 5 wins, Arsenal 11, Draws 14

at Spurs only
League (inc PL): Spurs 28 wins, Arsenal 22, Draws 20
Prem: Spurs 4 wins, Arsenal 3, Draws 8

LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME

Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Arsenal
21 April 2007 - Ref: Mike Dean
Spurs scorers: Keane 30, Jenas 90
Arsenal scorers: Toure 64, Adebayor 78

REFEREE

Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 16, 2007, 12:06:58 AM
Top top top of the League  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 16, 2007, 12:16:25 AM
Almost felt sorry for Spurs.

Almost.

Amazing the difference Henry's departure has made. Players who had the talent all along are now showing it, because of the freedom his absence has created. Fabregas oozes class, frightening for a lad of that age. Great to see the Gunners score unArsenal-like goals (Cesc's screamer and Adebayor's have-a-go.

Always great to bate the Spuds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 16, 2007, 03:40:10 AM
Almost felt sorry for Spurs.

Almost.

Amazing the difference Henry's departure has made. Players who had the talent all along are now showing it, because of the freedom his absence has created. Fabregas oozes class, frightening for a lad of that age. Great to see the Gunners score unArsenal-like goals (Cesc's screamer and Adebayor's have-a-go.

Always great to bate the Spuds.

While not ever talking badly about thierry, I never believed the stories of his controlling nature until the results of his departure have began to showthemselves on the field this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 16, 2007, 04:22:58 AM
I have to agree. Henry was a class act and was a footballing magician when at Arsenal. At that time there were many quality players who showed short spurts of magic. Those players are flourishing now and are showing themselves to be far better than what they were when Henry was there (when they were restricted).
Fabregas is unreal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 16, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
I still feel something is missing from the team. Spurs created chances but did not take them. Maybe when gilberto is back in midfield it will tighten it. We need to get some cover at centre back. I would like to see some more of eduardo too. Championsleague game during the week could be an ideal occassion for him. Lets not forget in january we will be without Toure, Eboue, Adebayor so it is important to have everyone with plenty of game time (apart from senderos,as he is shit!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on September 16, 2007, 12:23:04 PM
massive win yesterday, i may be biased but fabregas must be the best midfielder in the premiership and in the top 3 in europe, simply world class!!

great to see abebayor getting a couple and the second was a screamer, he works his socks off up front for us and about time he got his rewards...need fab, RVP, rosicky and toure to stay fit, key players to our season being sucessful

up the arse!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 19, 2007, 10:47:33 PM
Another nice performance. Feared Seville as I've seen plenty of them over the last year, but any team that comes out to play pure football against Arsenal usually suffer. Hleb is on serious form. Fabregas unstoppable. Senderos still the week link.

Home to Derby next.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: kinghen on September 20, 2007, 10:19:19 AM
thought arsenal were awesome last night (in parts) but your right its been proven in recent times that if you try to match arsenal as a technical, passing, footballing side then you usually get punished. its normally the blackburns, boltons etc who give us the trouble! although i think the team this year has shown more glimpses of "fighting" for posession!

cesc=unreal
rvp=more to come
toure=brilliant
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 24, 2007, 05:53:11 PM
Arsenal Holdings plc has announced their financial results for the year ending May 31, 2007. A brief overview is shown below.
Group turnover and operating profit at record levels:

- Turnover increased by 46% to £200.8 million (2006 - £137.2 million)

- Group operating profits* increased by 274% to £51.2 million (2006 - £13.7 million)
Match day revenues from the Club’s first season at Emirates Stadium were £90.6 million, representing £3.1 million per game and being more than double the £44.1 million achieved in the previous year at Highbury.
£260 million of bonds with long-dated maturities and a weighted average fixed interest rate of 5.3% were issued in the year to refinance all of the Group’s stadium related debt providing a significant reduction in annual debt service costs for the long term.
The Group’s cash balances rose to £73.9 million (2006 - £35.6 million).91% of the units at “The Stadium - Highbury Square” are already pre-sold. The final completion sales value for all units is expected to comfortably exceed £300 million
Arsène Wenger has extended his contract as Arsenal manager through to 2011 and will become the longest serving manager in the Club’s history.
Commenting on the results for the year, Peter Hill-Wood, non-executive chairman, said:

“The best way that Arsenal can continue to deliver success is by maintaining a business that pays its own way. This philosophy helped establish our objectives for the Club’s move away from Highbury and Emirates Stadium now provides Arsenal with the increased income, profitability, cash generation and firm financial foundations from which we will continue to build trophy winning Arsenal teams for many years to come.”

*(before player trading and depreciation)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2007, 09:04:21 PM
The football Arsenal have been playing lately has been absolutely sublime. Sheer bliss and more importantly with an end product. Unfortunately Hleb, Rosicky and Eduardo appear to have picked up knocks, furthering the pressure on Fabregas to perform.

Anyone want to do a Smoking Joe and trade cheques at this early stage? I'm willing to wager £20 that Fabregas will get the Football Writers Player of the Year even though it's only Sept.

I was reading lately that he has been directly involved in Arsenal's last 11 goals - be it a direct assist or scoring. Frightening he's 20.

West Ham tomorrow. Would take a draw. Lost there last year as Wenger lost the rag.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2007, 07:04:08 PM
So the gunners march on with a decent victory at upton park. This would be the sweetest league title ever, if it happened.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on September 29, 2007, 08:44:58 PM
It would be a real nice one. But we need a bit of rain and muck. we play the scum and the pool within 7 days we will know better then. Jasus Wenger is a genius he really is. ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 29, 2007, 10:54:23 PM
Very lucky today lads. Fcuk all wrong with Freddie's goal. Dean Ashton should have buried thon header!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on September 30, 2007, 12:36:29 PM
relieved after yesterdays game...no doubt freddies goal was on side and ashton should have put header away but thats the luck ya get whenb your the best team in the land  ;D

diaby seems to get better with ever game which is great to see cos he has all the attributes that a young patrick vieira had!

 the tackle on hleb was a joke, i thought his ankle was broke...hopefully he'll be back soon cos hes been playing quality stuff this season!

RVP is quality!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 30, 2007, 08:19:43 PM
Quote
Very lucky today lads. Fcuk all wrong with Freddie's goal. Dean Ashton should have buried thon header!

Lucky in the sense that they got the Freddie decision but they deserved the win, Foster was man of the match and Arsenal were fantastic at times, terrible tackle on Helb and Noble should have seen red. This team can only get better....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 02, 2007, 07:38:44 PM
Lunch has been ordered, setanta is on, the desk is littered with papers making it look like im busy, and we are ready to roll!
Hup the gunners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on October 02, 2007, 08:35:15 PM
poor game so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 02, 2007, 08:37:05 PM
Not great at all. Poor miss by fabregas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2007, 08:53:07 PM
Lazy from Arsenal so far. Steau are shoite but could nick one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2007, 09:29:49 PM
Goal

http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1432279
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on October 02, 2007, 10:38:04 PM
But they are starting to dig out the odd win - good sign but its so bloddy early in the season - remember the invincibles ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2007, 07:54:59 PM
The messiah speaks:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_7030000/newsid_7030600/7030627.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&news=1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 07, 2007, 05:44:29 PM
Arse 3 Sunderland 2

http://profile.imeem.com/sDhAuiX/video/IGw6k-Cf/arsenal_vs_sunderland_sports_video/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 15, 2007, 04:21:41 PM
from arsenal.com

Emmanuel Adebayor’s hopes of qualifying for January’s African Cup of Nations were dashed on Friday. Sevilla striker Freddi Kanoute and Mamadou Diallo scored in either half for Mali as they ran out 2-0 winners in Lome. The result is good news for Arsenal fans as it means Adebayor will not miss a large chunk of early 2008 as expected.

Thats great news. We will only be without toure and eboue now. Hopefully the games that djourou is getting with birmingham will help him fill in for toure as i dont trust senderos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on October 15, 2007, 04:26:38 PM
Yeah, very good news indeed... If only Toure would quit internationals!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2007, 07:58:44 PM
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Arsenal commission bust of Arsène Wenger

Arsenal Football Club is delighted to announce that it has commissioned a bust of Arsène Wenger, which will take place of honour at Emirates Stadium.

An exact replica of the bust was unveiled by Arsenal Chairman Peter Hill-Wood at the Club’s AGM at Emirates Stadium on Thursday in front of hundreds of Shareholders.

The final version of the bust, which will be cast in bronze and completed by the end of the year, has been created by figurative sculptor Etienne Millner, who has been painstakingly working on the piece for the past eight months.

After unveiling the bust, which the Club kept a secret from Wenger until the AGM, Arsenal Chairman Peter Hill-Wood said: “We are delighted to have commissioned a bust of Arsène Wenger, which will be located in an appropriate place of honour at Emirates Stadium.

“The bust is in recognition of the truly fantastic job which Arsène has done at Arsenal Football Club. Since joining us in 1996, Arsène has guided Arsenal teams to seven major trophies and has revolutionised the Club, not only through the brand of stylish and successful football which his teams play, but through his detailed and insightful input into the development of Emirates Stadium and our Training Centre at London Colney.

“Only recently, we were delighted to announce that Arsène signed an extension to his contract, keeping him at the Club until 2011. He will, as a result of this contract extension, become the longest serving manager in the history of the Club.”

The bust of Arsène Wenger will join three other famous busts to be associated with Arsenal Football Club and particularly Highbury Stadium, where a bust of legendary manager Herbert Chapman greeted visitors to the famous Marble Halls in the East Stand of the Gunners’ old stadium.

The other two busts at Highbury were of former Chairman Denis Hill-Wood (Peter’s late father), which took pride of place in the Directors’ Landing in the East Stand, while the West Stand was home to a bust of Claude Waterlow Ferrier, the designer of that stand at Highbury.

Since the move from Highbury, all three of these busts have been in safe storage, pending a decision on their final appropriate locations at Emirates Stadium.

Etienne Millner’s previous commissions are wide ranging and have included monumental portraiture, figure groups, busts of politicians, writers and musicians. Among them are Sir Lennox Berkeley, Lord and Lady Harris of Peckham, Toyah Willcox, Adrian Daintrey, Viscount Whitelaw, Field Marshal Sir Claude Auchinleck, Lord Thurlow, Rumer Godden, Sir Derek Alun-Jones, Lord Allenby, Lord Balfour of Inchrye, Count Jules Dembinski and Alexander Wyndham.

Further details on the final location of the Arsène Wenger bust at Emirates Stadium, together with the three other famous busts, will feature on Arsenal.com in the near future.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on October 20, 2007, 11:15:31 PM
Two great goals today. Arsenal will be very hard to stop this year. Not trying to jinx yiz. I have become as bad as Fearon in doing that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 23, 2007, 09:35:55 PM
How impressive is that scoreline. On another note however, what about this eejit!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7058711.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7058711.stm)

Lehmann issues threat to Wenger 
 
Lehmann is not happy at playing second fiddle to Almunia
Arsenal keeper Jens Lehmann has warned he may publicly air his grievances with Arsene Wenger if he does not play soon.
Lehmann's errors and injuries at the start of the season gave Manuel Almunia his chance and he is now first-choice ahead of the fit-again German stopper.

The 37-year-old told German TV channel Premiere: "I think - and this is aimed at my dear manager - one shouldn't humiliate players for too long.

"It's possible that some day I'll feel like talking about the whole issue."

Lehmann's comments come after he was left out of the Arsenal squad against Bolton last Saturday - a game he expected to play in after impressing for Germany earlier this month.

 Almunia has not yet showed that he can win matches for us

Jens Lehmann

But Wenger, who dropped Lehmann after he gifted Blackburn an equaliser in the 1-1 draw on 19 August, stuck with Almunia and put young keeper Lukasz Fabianski on the bench.

"At the moment I'm just swallowing it all as part of the humiliation. That's something one has to take in, " Lehmann said.

"But I'm an Arsenal player and I won't just fade away quietly."

Lehmann is also bemused by Wenger's statement that he has three "world-class" goalkeepers to pick from.

"One of them must be me," he suggested. "The other two have proved their class by winning titles? If I think about that, I can't recall any. I guess today you're nevertheless world-class."

Lehmann won the Uefa Cup in 1997 with Schalke 04, the Bundesliga title in 2002 with Borussia Dortmund and the Premier League with Arsenal in 2004.

And he made it clear he feels he should still be the number one at the Emirates Stadium.

"I'm convinced that I'll be playing again. Almunia has not yet showed that he can win matches for us," Lehmann added.

"I've experienced this situation before and know what the others are expecting from the goalkeeper. I can't imagine he'll be able to handle that."





Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2007, 09:40:19 PM
Awesome Arsenal tonight. Prague tried to pass the ball. Big mistake. Not much more to be said.

As for the German eejit: a few said to me today, Lehmann is well capable of humiliating himself on the field anyway....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 23, 2007, 09:46:11 PM
The Jerry seems to be a real team player...........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 23, 2007, 10:03:29 PM
Just seen the highlights of the match, some good goals and passing, hope mad Jens airs his dirty washing in public.... ashley cole and a phone springs to mind
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 23, 2007, 10:14:32 PM
Arsenal have scored enough goals this week now they will hardly wanna score more against Liverpool at they weekend that would be just plain greedy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 23, 2007, 10:35:13 PM
In fairness to the Gunners that they are turning into a serious outfit.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on October 23, 2007, 10:41:40 PM
gooners were awesome tonight, to be fair to prague they came to play ball but paid for it bigtime, cant give arsenal space to play or your goin to get tanked..great to see theo getting a few, hes finally starting to show the class he has. cesc is the real deal and quickly turning into best in the business and still only 21. awesome. up the arse!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on October 23, 2007, 11:36:56 PM
Now that was some performance ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 24, 2007, 01:48:38 AM
December and January-feb will be crucial for this young team.
Still though, awesome performance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 24, 2007, 08:15:10 AM
Fantastic performance, such a young side as well, Gallas must feel like a grand-dad, even two draws against Liverpool and Mau Ure will leave Arseanl sitting pretty at the top...

Fabregas - 20
Walcott - 18
Sagna - 24
Toure - 25
Clichy - 22
Flamini - 23
Adebayor - 23
Eboue - 24
Bentender - 19


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on October 24, 2007, 09:05:03 AM
Cashley Cole must feel like Pete Best when he left the Beatles!!
Lets just hope we can get two good results over the Scousers and Mancs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 24, 2007, 10:23:03 AM
Savage performance last night. Now that Henry and Cole are gone, Arsenal are a very likeable team in general, and in fairness they play some outstanding soccer. Of course I hope we (Liverpool) do ye at Anfield, but credit where credit is due. Team of the season so far without a doubt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on October 24, 2007, 10:45:56 AM
Will you be confident against us this weekend? Some performnce last night. Draw for me at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2007, 10:49:17 AM
Arsenal got their fingers burned at Anfield last season. Having walloped them 3-1 and 6-3 there in the cups, the Reds humiliated Wenger 4-1 in late March.

The teams then:

Liverpool: Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Agger, Aurelio, Pennant, Alonso, Mascherano (Riise 82), Gonzalez (Zenden 69), Gerrard (Kuyt 56), Crouch.
Goals: Crouch 4, 35, Agger 60, Crouch 81.

Arsenal: Lehmann, Eboue (Hoyte 82), Toure, Gallas, Clichy, Hleb, Fabregas, Diaby (Rosicky 65), Denilson, Julio Baptista (Ljungberg 65), Adebayor.
Goals: Gallas 73.


As for last night, it was one of those occasions when you just needed to appreciated Wenger's artwork and forget about trophies and getting your name on a roll of honour. Occasionally in 2002 and 2004, they produced that type of football. It was a pleasure to sit back and watch it. There still is the strong possibility that Arsenal haven't the steeliness to last the long winter months.


I remember reading this article last March: Would we be prepared, as supporters, to trade last night's spectacle for trophies?

Losing in style: how Arsenal discovered an ugly truth about the Beautiful Game

Simon Barnes

Arsenal: a nation mourns. They lost the Carling Cup final, despite playing better than Chelsea. They were knocked out of the FA Cup, despite playing better than Blackburn Rovers over two matches. They have lost all chance of winning the Barclays Premiership, despite playing better than Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool. They are in danger of failing to qualify for the Champions League next season, despite playing better than all the clubs below them. And now they are out of Europe’s premier club competition this season, despite playing better than PSV Eindhoven over two legs and playing better than all eight clubs that remain in the competition.

It’s not really fair, is it? But then Arsenal’s football was not better in terms of goals and victories and all that; it was better morally. Arsenal play the right way. They play with style and brio, with beautiful passes, with intricate patterns, with wit and charm. They also play with youth, plucked from the ranks and taught to seek and find greatness.

This season Arsenal produced a team of pure and dizzy talent, the distilled essence of football. They embodied every kind of footballing virtue. Question: does defeat in four competitions destroy the moral argument? Does rightness depend on victory? Or is there really a right way and wrong way to play? Is it better to lose the right way than win the wrong way?

After one season in which Arsenal had the upper hand over United, Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, said that his team may have lost, but they played the better — ie, the more attractive — football. The comment of Arsene Wenger, the Arsenal manager, has gone into legend: “Everyone thinks he has the prettiest wife at home.”

But this season, Arsenal really are the prettiest. None but the most besotted and uxorious of one-eyed fans can deny this. They are better than everyone else, but not good enough to win anything. Where does that leave us?

Well then, what does being the best, the prettiest and most morally perfect football team entail? It is not a question of good behaviour, keeping to the rules, not diving, not kicking opponents. Arsenal have been guilty of all these things, but that does not contradict the belief that they play “the right way”.

No, a team that play “good” football are one that please the senses of the observers. They are just nicer to watch. There is unquestionably an aesthetic dimension to football. The famous Danny Blanchflower dictum — that the game is not about winning but about glory and doing things in style — still has a deep resonance.

In 1988, when Liverpool played Wimbledon in the FA Cup Final, people wrote that Liverpool were “playing for the good name of English football”. Liverpool were morally good because they played a game based on passing and cute triangles. Wimbledon were morally bad because they lumped the ball up the middle at a beastly centre forward. One team were moral, one team were immoral. The immoral team won 1-0, proving what?

In the early 1980s, football people were outraged by the theory of POMO: the Position Of Maximum Opportunity — ie, whack the ball into the penalty area as many times as possible and it will end up in the net by sheer statistical inevitability. This was rejected by many as heresy, not just because it is less effective than pretty football, but because it is morally wrong.

Cesc Fàbregas, the heart and soul of the young and lovely Arsenal team, rebuked Mark Hughes, the Blackburn manager and a former Barcelona player, because his team — successful against Arsenal in the FA Cup replay — did not play “Barcelona football”. As if this failure was a moral outrage.

Blackburn played defensively, sought to stifle and intimidate, imposed themselves as far as the laws and the referee would allow them. Is that immoral? Would they have been more moral if they had, despite lacking the playing resources, attempted to play like Barcelona (or, for that matter, Arsenal) and lost 4-0? You tell me. We all know that football has no marks for artistic impression, but as a neutral I still wanted Arsenal to win. I can argue long and hard and probably correctly that Arsenal’s moral stance is utterly bogus, but I am still a sucker for glory and doing things in style.

We all are, except when we have partisanship to deal with. In the rugby union World Cup of 2003, England were criticised for their lack of style. Is that all you’ve got? Look at the bloody scoreboard, we replied. Style is for wimps, we’ve got Jonny and Jonno.

Yet, when England choose to kick a penalty rather than run it at Twickenham, there are always boos. The crowd wants victory, but the right way, with lots of running and passing and rolling mauls and line-breaking forwards. A bit of glory. So why aren’t the Barbarians everyone’s favourite rugby team? They always go for glory. But it doesn’t convince us because we know that there is nothing at stake. It’s not real, it’s just a bit of fun. We want glory in the context of the search for big prizes and persuade ourselves that there is a moral rightness in that course.

There is a tendency to see all those who play extravagantly as morally right because they entertain us. But do we really want every athlete to be like Henri Leconte, a tennis player who cared little whether he won or lost so long as he went the pretty way? Ilie Nastase was adored at Wimbledon for his style and swagger; he was twice a finalist but doomed to lose. Pete Sampras, one of the all-time greats in all sports, was disliked because he was “boring”; this was seen by some as a moral failing.

In the 1960s, cricket became so attritional, so totally based on defeat-avoidance, that they had to invent a new form of the game. One-day cricket came about because the traditional version of the game had turned its back on style and glory. The primacy of one-day cricket in the sub-continent can be traced to the hideous excesses of negativity in Test matches orchestrated by Sunil Gavaskar, the India captain from the late 1970s to the mid1980s.

Logically, we must always support every athlete’s right to seek victory in whatever legal fashion he chooses. Logically, we must accept that sport is only incidentally entertaining; that the only duty of the athlete is to struggle for victory with perfect sincerity; that when an athlete seeks to be an entertainer, he loses the sport in himself.

But all the same . . . Sobers, Best, Campese, Warne, Pelé, Maradona, McEnroe, Jayasuriya . . . Pietersen, Muralitharan, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Robinson, Federer . . . yes, even Fàbregas, Henry, Denilson, at least to an extent. Style may not be a moral imperative in sport, but sport is more amusing for its presence. To say that style doesn’t matter in sport does not mean that there is no style in sport. It only means that you lack this quality yourself.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on October 24, 2007, 05:48:30 PM
will be interesting to see how scousers play against us at the weekend, i have a funny feeling they'll play torres up front and pack into their own half, prague tried to play football against us and got completely tortured so i think liverpool will do the same. i'll happily take a draw but 3 points is much better :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 27, 2007, 07:32:35 PM
Big big game tomorrow. Manu sit atop the league, albeit we have two games in hand. Arsenal need to come away from anfield tomorrow with at least a point in the bag.
Wonder how it will shape up, mouthwatering tie to say the least. Ill be up early for this one!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2007, 09:13:42 AM
First time in a long time that I watced a game in the pub, gone are the days when a pub would be packed for a game like this....

Anyway from watching it on TV it was clear to see Arsenal dominated possession but were not creating the opportunites and once Liverpool got that early goal, Flamini wll have to take responsibility for that one, they were always going to sit back. But the goons were a pleasure to watch and if they had equalised earlier I have no doubt they could have gone on and won this maybe by two or three goals, that they didn't should be credited to Liverpool and the fact they played like an away team rather than a home team.

Happy with the performance and would take a draw this weekend but have a feeling the the goons will win it by the odd goal in three especially if Man Ure come and try and play, in saying that mid-day kick-offs tend to be flat games so a draw would be the better bet.

Eboue is an annoying player and I really do not like seeing him in an Arsenal shirt.....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 30, 2007, 09:41:24 AM
Liverpool's players were very complimentary about Arsenal in the papers today. I didn't see the game, as I was at the American Football, but it sounds as if Arsenal were unreal, and Liverpool will look at it as a point gained. Of course the fact that Alonso and Torres got injured again is a bit of a sickener though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2007, 09:57:46 AM
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but it sounds as if Arsenal were unreal, and Liverpool will look at it as a point gained

Wouldn't say unreal but they played very well, Torres however was a problem for Liverpool clearly unfit and he provided no outlet up front, Crouch made a big difference. I think Liverpool should have pushed on for a second goal before sitting back, their aggressive high-tempo was causing Arsenal problems but to sit back was just going to invite Arsenal to attack and Arsenal are very patient in that situation was wrong.

Liverpool had chances and think they might be unhappy not to hold on for all 3 points but Arseanal hit the woodwork twice, missed two open goals from the rebounds and also should have had a penalty but happy with a point and would take the same next Saturday....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 30, 2007, 12:06:58 PM
Jose Reina said that Arsenal are the 'best side I have ever played against'. I know soundbites are worthless, but that's some statement to make.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 30, 2007, 12:13:47 PM
Jose Reina said that Arsenal are the 'best side I have ever played against'. I know soundbites are worthless, but that's some statement to make.

I was at the game in Anfield at the weekend and i have to say Arsenal are one of the best teams i have seen in a long time,Their movement off the ball and passing quality's is unreal and really Liverpool were very lucky to get a point in my opinion and i would see it as a point earned rather than two points dropped.Arsenal hit the post twice and missed two wide open goals.
Crouch did make a difference when he came on alright but really Arsenal deserved their point and will probably feel they should have taken all 3
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 30, 2007, 02:14:55 PM

Eboue is an annoying player and I really do not like seeing him in an Arsenal shirt.....



me too. He lets himself and the side down. If he just played ball instead of that shit he would be better off. I remember he did the smae think last year in anfield in the cup. Wenger dropped him for a while after it and i thought he had grown up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2007, 03:56:34 PM
As wth Dinny I enjoyed the rarity of watching it in the pub. Maybe it was the stout but it was very enjoyable to watch even at 1-0 down. That match has convinced me more than ever that Arsenal can mount a serious challenge in 2008. Hleb was wonderful to watch.

I was slightly disappointed though that Wenger blinked and played Adebayor on his own for the first time. He stretched 5 across the middle and although it ultimately paid off, if he'd dropped Eboue for Bentner, Eduardo or Walcott Arsenal may have knocked 3-4 past them. Eboue is NOT an Arsenal player. AW will off-load him when he can afford to do so.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on October 30, 2007, 05:47:54 PM
eboue is a time bomb, always does something stupid every match, he has all the attributes wenger looks for in a player (athletic and technical ability and i think since sagna has come in hes been on the vrege of things, will be suprised if he is with us next season.

I must say my opinion of Alex Hleb has totally changed in the past few month, before i thought he was very negative and seemed to lack confidence at takin players on etc but watching him this season he along with cesc has been immense, great first touch and some wonderful pieces of skill and his work rate has risen too. can see why wenger let freddie go because hleb is almost the same style as him except doesnty dart into the box as well as the swede.

I know theres a long way to go and the weekend will have a big say on things but i feel we are the team to beat at the minute, lead by the fab-ulous cesc, we're gona take some stopping!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 31, 2007, 11:26:45 AM
does anyone know how i can watch the match on saturday on the pc. have to work and dont want to miss it. wreckin it is going to be a cracker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2007, 11:27:25 AM
myp2p.eu
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 31, 2007, 12:55:01 PM
thanks for that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 31, 2007, 01:00:42 PM
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup fourth-round tie with Sheffield United:

2. Abou DIABY (Age 21)                     
8. Lassana DIARRA (Age 22)                     
9. EDUARDO (Age 24)                     
15. DENILSON (Age 19)                     
17. Alex SONG (Age 20)                     
19. GILBERTO (Age 31)                     
21. Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK) (Age 22)                     
26. Nicklas BENDTNER (Age 19)                     
31. Justin HOYTE (Age 22)                     
32. Theo WALCOTT (Age 18)                     
34. Kieran GIBBS (Age 18)                     
39. Henri LANSBURY (Age 16)                     
40. Vito MANNONE (GK) (Age 19)                     
41. Gavin HOYTE (Age 17)                     
42. Fran MERIDA (Age 17)                     
43. Nacer BARAZITE (Age 17)

Average age of squad: 20.1 

take gilberto out and it brings it down to 19.4, i wonder what will the centre back partnership be tonight?
Song and hoyte or song and diarra? Dont think gilberto will be play there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2007, 02:12:20 AM
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Average age of squad: 20.1 

take gilberto out and it brings it down to 19.4, i wonder what will the centre back partnership be tonight?

I read somewhere, but it may need verified, that the average age of Arsenal's team v Liverpool on Sunday was 25. Chelsea's and Man United's at the weekend was 26. It sort of suggests that maybe all this fuss about young boys of Arsenal might be exagerated?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2007, 08:22:32 AM
The average age of the 13 players that played against Liverpool was 22. The starting XI was 24, it's the Arsenal squad that is pretty young, much younger than the Man U kids that would the title, the Sunday Times did a good comparison at the weekend.

It was a stroll in the park last night...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 01, 2007, 05:02:50 PM
i thought gilberto was very good. He was in the right place all the time and gave great cover to the centre halves. I hope he stays around in January but if he is not getting a game i doubt he will . I know wenger was making a point not making him captain last night but i felt sorry for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 01, 2007, 05:11:18 PM
i hope gilberto stays too, hes been a great servant and is the type of player who has a great game but is overt shadowed by Cesc, RVP and the likes, he does the simple thing and breaks up opponents attacks and sets up ours. Wenger was harsh not giving him captaincy lastnight and not even giving the mad german a run out between the posts shows that he is no longer wanted!

More positive note lastnight the youngsters were great, the young lad at left back looked promising, in the same mould as clichy and cashley. Eduardo showed he has an eye for goal and hopefully wenger will give him a run in first team cos i think he will score goals if given game time! Should probably make cup final again as long as we stay clear of chelsea who will no doubt field a full strength side from now on in.
The future is most definately bright!

Up the gunners!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2007, 06:00:53 PM
Ah Jaysus O'Neill ya left out Giggs's goal in the 99 semi final! And the 6-1 scoreline at Highbury a few years back as well! ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on November 01, 2007, 06:06:04 PM
Ah Jaysus O'Neill ya left out Giggs's goal in the 99 semi final! And the 6-1 scoreline at Highbury a few years back as well! ;)

The 6-1 was at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2007, 06:10:07 PM
Whoops. :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on November 01, 2007, 06:10:59 PM
Whoops. :-[

It was still impressive though! :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 07:15:09 PM
Ah Jaysus O'Neill ya left out Giggs's goal in the 99 semi final! And the 6-1 scoreline at Highbury a few years back as well! ;)

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 07:30:38 PM
Wenger has never had a problem off-loading players surplus to requirements, but I feel Gilberto is worth persevereing with until the end of the season. Arsenal will find it tough going during the African Nations Cup and with Gilberto still about he offers cover at the back. If Fabregas gets injured he'll also offer inspiration and know-how around the middle. As for Lehman....too dodgy now.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2007, 11:03:19 PM
http://www.redcafe.net/showthread.php?t=175269
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:37:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnOjX_tVDOc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:39:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKj8msoEKEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEKOhBNlSM
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:07:58 PM
Arsenal are unchanged from the 1-1 draw with Liverpool so Gilberto stays on the bench. For Manchester United, Patrice Evra replaces John O'Shea and Ryan Giggs comes in for Nani.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on November 03, 2007, 12:24:04 PM
Anyone know where the game can be viewed on the net?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:27:03 PM
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=1286&part=sports
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 03, 2007, 12:39:40 PM
 any other link. that one wont open ??
can get tvu screen but nothing opens on it the right hand side

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 03, 2007, 12:43:29 PM
i do!! but i am at work
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 03, 2007, 12:49:35 PM
unfortunately no lunch break. will have to make do with today fm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:54:09 PM
sop://202.190.75.149:3912/1004

You need sopcast though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 03:39:37 PM
Arsenal v Manchester United: dangerous chance for ManU from Giggs
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502232

Arsenal v Manchester United: nice shot by Giggs but goes wide
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502244

Arsenal v Manchester United: dangerous chance for Arsenal by Gallas but Van Der Sar saves
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502273

Arsenal v Manchester United: first goal for Manchester by Ronney
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502292

Arsenal v Manchester United: 1st goal for Arsenal by Fabregas
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502317

Arsenal v Manchester United: 2nd goal for Manchester by Ronaldo
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502399

Arsenal v Manchester United: 2nd goal for Arsenal by Gallas
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502425

Although happy at the minute, this was a big chance to put a wee bit of daylight between the sides. Utd could see this as a valuable point in a few week's time.

I hope AW goes back to 4-4-2 next week. Although 2 points from Liverpool away and Utd home isn't bad, Arsenal are good enough to take all 6. The Adebayor sole-role doesn't maximise their game. Decent performances from most players although Rosicky looks off-form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 05, 2007, 09:22:17 AM
Shock! Horror! Man Ure come and play their usually negaitive tactics at Arsenal. Again plenty of possession but playing Adebayor up front on his own means the Goons won't create that many clear cut chances. But as I said a couple of weeks ago I'll take two draws and I'll settle for that as the Goons had to come from beind in both games.

Agree with O'Neill about Rosicky, doesn't look fit and I think he's form is sufferiing because of it. A decent result tomorrow will mean Wenger can rest players for last 2 champions league group games, a lot of games coming up so fresh bodies will be needed..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 08, 2007, 04:38:39 PM
Don't think we can rest too many players now as if we dont get a draw in seville we wont top the group and will then have a harder draw in the next round. Thought we lacked creativity in midfield and i dont think bentner is all that he is making himself out to be- "i'm leaving if i dont get more games!!"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2007, 07:31:48 PM
Reading manager Steve Coppell:
"In my mind I have probably got about three different ways of playing against Arsenal - or trying to.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 12, 2007, 10:49:16 PM
Arsenal 3
Reading 1

Arsenal overcame Reading's resistance with a stylish win that sends them top of the table on goal difference.

Emmanuel Adebayor hit the post early on but the Gunners were frustrated until Alexander Hleb set up Mathieu Flamini to slot home just before half-time.

Adebayor's fine finish made it 2-0 with Arsenal's 1,000th Premier League goal and Hleb's solo strike added a third.

Nicky Shorey, who hit the woodwork with a late free-kick, managed a consolation for Reading with a close-range finish.

It was a thoroughly convincing win for Arsene Wenger's side, although Reading's approach was more than slightly perplexing.

The home side defended in numbers from the start and, with Kevin Doyle completely isolated up front, the early part of the game saw wave after wave of attacks by the Gunners.

If Adebayor's shot had rolled in, and not against the post, then the Royals would have been forced to come out and attack.

Instead, Steve Coppell's side dug in and set out to frustrate the visitors.

Their ultra-defensive approach meant Arsenal keeper Manuel Almunia had little to do, apart from push away Brynjar Gunnarsson's 30-yard shot.

But they kept the game goalless until the 44th minute when Flamini rounded off a neat move by guiding Hleb's low cross into the net despite the best efforts of Stephen Hunt on the line.

The Gunners carried on where they left off after the break and Adebayor got on the scoresheet himself when he fired past Hahnemann and into the bottom corner.

The Togo star thought he had made it 3-0 soon afterwards but his strike, following a slick passing move, was wrongly ruled out for offside.

There was no stopping Arsenal by now though and they did not have to wait long for a legitimate third goal, Hleb breaking into the area before rounding the keeper and firing cheekily home.

Reading's players were out on their feet and, with Arsenal still utterly dominant, a reply looked unlikely.

But Coppell's side did pull a goal back after finally producing a spell of pressure in the closing minutes.

The Royals had already gone close when Shorey's free-kick hit the bottom of Almunia's post and the England left-back was on hand to slot home when Stephen Hunt's header came back off the woodwork with three minutes left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 23, 2007, 02:13:35 PM
from arsenal.com

Arsenal will be without six first-team players for their return to Premier League against Wigan on Saturday.

The leaders are likely to have five midfielders unavailable - Alex Hleb (hamstring), Mathieu Flamini (thigh), Cesc Fabregas (suspended), Abou Diaby (back) and Gilberto (fatigue). Philippe Senderos is back but Robin van Persie’s long-standing knee problem has not healed sufficiently for him to return.

The Dutchman last played for Arsenal against Sunderland on October 7. He picked up his injury during the  international break that followed that game. It appears the most recent one has cost Arsenal a couple more players this time.

“Hleb came back with a hamstring injury,” Wenger told Arsenal.com on Thursday afternoon. “So once again we lose someone during this [international] period. I think he’ll be out for 21 days. Flamini came back with a little thigh problem too. That will be one week maximum.

“Senderos is available but Cesc is suspended. Diaby has a back problem from the Slavia Prague game and he’ll be out for three weeks. Robin van Persie is not back and he will not be back for Sevilla either. Gilberto will return very, very late. In fact he only comes back on Friday. So, as for the rest of the squad, we’ll see.”

For the best build up to the Wigan game, please check Arsenal.com on Friday morning.

Team i would like to see this week, Almunia,
                                         Eboue,Toure, Gallas, Clichy,
                                     walcot, diarra, denilson, rosicky,
                                           Bentner  Adebayor
Bentner has to start getting goals though or i would sell him off. He got 2 international goals this week so confidence shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2007, 02:53:59 PM
Wenger seems to prefer Sagna in defence with Eboue on the right of midfield. I can see Walcott losing out again. I can also see Adebayor and Eduardo up front. The Croat showed enough v England that he can become a decent provider. Bentner and Adebayor too similar?

Will miss Hleb and Cesc greatly in terms of converting from late runs but hopefully there's enough there to dispose of Wigan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 23, 2007, 04:17:19 PM
Wenger seems to prefer Sagna in defence with Eboue on the right of midfield. I can see Walcott losing out again. I can also see Adebayor and Eduardo up front. The Croat showed enough v England that he can become a decent provider. Bentner and Adebayor too similar?

Will miss Hleb and Cesc greatly in terms of converting from late runs but hopefully there's enough there to dispose of Wigan.

I prefer sagna too. But in a game like this i would let eboue play as he is our cover here. Similarly with the two "big" men up front, against a team like wigan i think decent balls into the box will yield goals and it would be a shame to drop bentner when his confidence is high
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2007, 09:44:26 PM
Well you were right about Bentner. His introduction changed the game. Involved in both goals, his intelligence on the ball was impressive and is pushing now for a start. With RVP on the mend though, I can see him moving on as it's RVP, Adebayor with him and Eduardo as impact subs. Good to see Rosicky finding some semblance of form. Walcott actually did ok and I'd probably prefer him to Eboue though Eboue has that defensive know-how that's useful with such an attacking midfield. Walcott's injury looked worrying though. Great win considering results elsewhere. I still feel Liverpool are going to be thereabouts. They're also unbeaten.

Now comes the real test. Four consecutive away games.

Sevilla v Arsenal - I think Arsenal will lose this one, their first defeat in yonks.
Aston Villa v Arsenal - Villa are flying. I'd take a draw.
Newcastle v Arsenal - Allardyce always poses a problem but 3 points hopefully
Middlesbrough v Arsenal - expecting 3 points.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2007, 09:55:47 PM
Can't say I agree with your prediction of the Seville game, O'Neill. Seville just lost today at home to Mallorca to follow up last week's defeat at Villarreal. Here's today's game babelfished:

Liga - the Majorca returns to win in the Pizjuán

The Majorca, as already it happened the last season, returns to win in the Pizjuán (1-2) before a stuck Seville without that remains offed-hook of the high zone of the table after suffering the third defeat like the premises in the present campaign. Ibagaza and the Varelas give the victory to vermilions. The Majorca has known to make profitable the 2-0 harvested in first half, in spite of being in numerical inferiority during the end of second half, with much suffering and holding the attacks of the nervión set. Seville left to the party with the intention to control the ball and to arrive at the rival frame with clarity, but they did not find its midfield players to the Mali Frederic Kanouté and the Brazilian Luis Fabiano, with few occasions of goal between both throughout everything in encounter. And under this Sevillista weather it arrived the first Majorcan goal, in the first approach that it had, exceeded the quarter of hour, when Jonás Gutiérrez went well by the left band of Hinkel, and made happens of the death within the area so that Ariel "sewer" Ibagaza beat by low and fit to a wood to Andrés Palop (0-1, min 16) The sevillista equipment could tie in two occasions with its goleador forward Luis Fabiano, but, or the ball went away outside nearly, or the doorman vermilion Germa'n Lux was for preventing it. Seville had "reflections" during the party of which fué the last season, but its thick and slow game during the mayora part of the encounter justifies its position in the classification. At the 38 minutes of the encounter the finishing nail arrived from the Majorca by means of spectacular zapatazo, from more than thirty meters, from Varela who strained themselves by the square of a Palop that could not make nothing to prevent it (0-2). Seville to the load Thanks to the heat of its liking, Seville left to the load in second half looking for the male. Luis Fabiano returned to suffer itself of his ankle, hurt after playing with his selection, and had to leave Chevantón in his place trasa the rest. Indeed Chevantón attended Kanouté in the goal of Seville after renewal (1-2 min. 50), and it made delude to the liking of overcome Pizjuán with one historical one after that tempranero goal. As of that moment Seville turns upside down completely to the attack and the ball does not leave the field vermilion desperately looking for the tie. There it is when German Lux, Majorcan arquero, are elevated in the outstanding man of the encounter after carrying out impressive sevillistas shutdowns to the man that did not guess right to beat to him. The Majorca as well began to sleep the encounter and to also cause the interruptions so that the party happened more quickly. Varela, Balearic midfield player author of the second goal, was expelled for want of quarter from hour for the end. This caused that the Majorca was still closed more back and controlled the rest of the encounter before a Seville without stuck arrival nor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 24, 2007, 10:02:48 PM
I think Essien will miss the game v Arsenal now. A big loss, as he usually plays well and scores v The Goons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2007, 11:37:32 PM
Poor Spud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhTDSSiMio0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdWTg7WqfL0&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 27, 2007, 01:56:10 PM
think we might get a result tonight. I have a sneaky feeling eduardo will get a goal (8-1 on pp to score first). Cesc is back and that will give us the creativity we lacked in prague in midfield.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 27, 2007, 03:20:40 PM
O'Neill, did you just contradict yourself here on this thread within minutes of each other? Did you mean to use an alter ego? :D (Or are you schizo?)

Well you were right about Bentner. His introduction changed the game. Involved in both goals, his intelligence on the ball was impressive and is pushing now for a start. With RVP on the mend though, I can see him moving on as it's RVP, Adebayor with him and Eduardo as impact subs. Good to see Rosicky finding some semblance of form. Walcott actually did ok and I'd probably prefer him to Eboue though Eboue has that defensive know-how that's useful with such an attacking midfield. Walcott's injury looked worrying though. Great win considering results elsewhere. I still feel Liverpool are going to be thereabouts. They're also unbeaten.

Now comes the real test. Four consecutive away games.

Sevilla v Arsenal - I think Arsenal will lose this one, their first defeat in yonks.
Aston Villa v Arsenal - Villa are flying. I'd take a draw.
Newcastle v Arsenal - Allardyce always poses a problem but 3 points hopefully
Middlesbrough v Arsenal - expecting 3 points.


Followed by:

Can't say I agree with your prediction of the Seville game, O'Neill. Seville just lost today at home to Mallorca to follow up last week's defeat at Villarreal. Here's today's game babelfished:

Liga - the Majorca returns to win in the Pizjuán

The Majorca, as already it happened the last season, returns to win in the Pizjuán (1-2) before a stuck Seville without that remains offed-hook of the high zone of the table after suffering the third defeat like the premises in the present campaign. Ibagaza and the Varelas give the victory to vermilions. The Majorca has known to make profitable the 2-0 harvested in first half, in spite of being in numerical inferiority during the end of second half, with much suffering and holding the attacks of the nervión set. Seville left to the party with the intention to control the ball and to arrive at the rival frame with clarity, but they did not find its midfield players to the Mali Frederic Kanouté and the Brazilian Luis Fabiano, with few occasions of goal between both throughout everything in encounter. And under this Sevillista weather it arrived the first Majorcan goal, in the first approach that it had, exceeded the quarter of hour, when Jonás Gutiérrez went well by the left band of Hinkel, and made happens of the death within the area so that Ariel "sewer" Ibagaza beat by low and fit to a wood to Andrés Palop (0-1, min 16) The sevillista equipment could tie in two occasions with its goleador forward Luis Fabiano, but, or the ball went away outside nearly, or the doorman vermilion Germa'n Lux was for preventing it. Seville had "reflections" during the party of which fué the last season, but its thick and slow game during the mayora part of the encounter justifies its position in the classification. At the 38 minutes of the encounter the finishing nail arrived from the Majorca by means of spectacular zapatazo, from more than thirty meters, from Varela who strained themselves by the square of a Palop that could not make nothing to prevent it (0-2). Seville to the load Thanks to the heat of its liking, Seville left to the load in second half looking for the male. Luis Fabiano returned to suffer itself of his ankle, hurt after playing with his selection, and had to leave Chevantón in his place trasa the rest. Indeed Chevantón attended Kanouté in the goal of Seville after renewal (1-2 min. 50), and it made delude to the liking of overcome Pizjuán with one historical one after that tempranero goal. As of that moment Seville turns upside down completely to the attack and the ball does not leave the field vermilion desperately looking for the tie. There it is when German Lux, Majorcan arquero, are elevated in the outstanding man of the encounter after carrying out impressive sevillistas shutdowns to the man that did not guess right to beat to him. The Majorca as well began to sleep the encounter and to also cause the interruptions so that the party happened more quickly. Varela, Balearic midfield player author of the second goal, was expelled for want of quarter from hour for the end. This caused that the Majorca was still closed more back and controlled the rest of the encounter before a Seville without stuck arrival nor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 27, 2007, 03:25:12 PM
Well spotted AZ, so who is his other account?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 27, 2007, 03:26:28 PM
Ah ONeill has many, many faces. We have 1820 members, and I'd say O'Neill is about 30 of them :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2007, 03:39:05 PM
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Well spotted AZ, so who is his other account?

As one of the few people who read this thread I spotted that over the weekend but didn't want to offend O'Neill as he keeps this thread going  :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 27, 2007, 03:39:41 PM
Sorry lads, it wasn't my place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on November 27, 2007, 03:40:46 PM
Ah ONeill has many, many faces. We have 1820 members, and I'd say O'Neill is about 30 of them :D
Ur fairly on the ball there AZ !  Should send your CV on to Horatio Caine to enhance career prospects  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 06:47:56 PM
Anyway, Wenger just text me. It's:
 Almunia,
Hoyte, Traore, Senderos, Toure,
Eboue, Fibreglass, Denilson, Gilberto,
Eduardo and Bentner

A worrying defence.

Seville 2 Arsenal 0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 09:51:41 PM
Well 3-1 it ended, not surprisingly so. This last game at home to Steaua is almost crucial. They need to win and hope Seville don't win in Prague. Finishing second will invite a 2nd round game against Barca, Milan, Madrid etc.

Senderos (Cygan in disguise) should never share a pitch with Gilberto again. He makes everyone nervous but for some reason Silva's game is destroyed when he plays. Cesc was very quiet. Away to Villa on Saturday. A tough one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:24:37 PM
Never seen it but I hear....

Fibreglass injured....
Hoyte to be hawled in front of UEFA or a stamp...
Wenger firing his toys out of the pram....
Arsenal (The saviours of football with their beautiful football) surrounding the ref and pressurising him to overturn decisions....



As I say....that's what I heard..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 10:27:37 PM
Never seen it but I hear....

Fibreglass injured....
Hoyte to be hawled in front of UEFA or a stamp...
Wenger firing his toys out of the pram....
Arsenal (The saviours of football with their beautiful football) surrounding the ref and pressurising him to overturn decisions....



As I say....that's what I heard..

1. Looks like it
2. Nope
3. Probably as does Fergie, Mourinho...all winners seem to.
4. Nope.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 27, 2007, 10:39:50 PM
Never seen it but I hear....

Fibreglass injured....
Hoyte to be hawled in front of UEFA or a stamp...
Wenger firing his toys out of the pram....
Arsenal (The saviours of football with their beautiful football) surrounding the ref and pressurising him to overturn decisions....


As I say....that's what I heard..

A subject close to any Chelsea fans heart, Captain Courageous Terry (or is that turncoat Terry?) throwing the ball at the ref against Derby........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:43:12 PM
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A subject close to any Chelsea fans heart, Captain Courageous Terry (or is that turncoat Terry?) throwing the ball at the ref against Derby........


No denying that Chelsea were out of order on Saturday. However the medja tend to demonsie Chelsea, and glamorise Arsenal, even though the pretty boys of North London are fond of throwing their toys out of the pram too! And it's hard to beat a wee bit of exagerating....he threw it at the ground...not the ref!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 10:43:56 PM
You have to understand this, SS. Arsenal haven't lost since April 7th. That's a lot of frustration for oppostion fans. Even in a meaningless game, an Arsenal defeat is orgasmic for them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:50:39 PM
Well 3-1 it ended, not surprisingly so. This last game at home to Steaua is almost crucial. They need to win and hope Seville don't win in Prague. Finishing second will invite a 2nd round game against Barca, Milan, Madrid etc.

Senderos (Cygan in disguise) should never share a pitch with Gilberto again. He makes everyone nervous but for some reason Silva's game is destroyed when he plays. Cesc was very quiet. Away to Villa on Saturday. A tough one.

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Even in a meaningless game

So the last game is crucial, but the 2nd last is meaningless? I am nearly as confused as you were when replying to yourself!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 10:53:09 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 10:56:02 PM
I am nearly as confused as you were when replying to yourself!!

Unfortunately even the simplest attempts at subtle humour is unappreciated on the board in 2007.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:57:17 PM
Now the Andorra thing was funny....

....but I think in this wan you fecked up  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 11:01:41 PM
Ach Jaysus, I'm now stooping to the level of explaining these things. Why do I bother...

Immediately after posting the initial post about the Seville game, I checked their recent results only to find they were in a spot a bother. I posted again in order to say my initial post was shite and ill-informed, and I attempted to do so in a, over-the-head it appears, self-depreciating way.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 28, 2007, 09:34:47 AM
I actually thought of that O'Neill. Is he doing this in an 'Alan Shearer third person' type of way. Then I said, 'It's O'Neill. Nah!!!!!!!!!!'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 28, 2007, 10:12:27 AM
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Arsenal (The saviours of football with their beautiful football)


Jesus, Norf Tyrone actually writes something that I can agree with.

It's great to see people whinge about Arsenal, must mean they see Arsenal as realistic title challengers... ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 28, 2007, 12:48:22 PM
"Fredi from the penalty spot" will now enter the White Hart Lane hymnbook, alongside "Nayim from the halfway line" ;D

On another note, Jose Ramos' team fcuked you Goons last night... a taste of things to come closer to home ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2007, 02:38:57 PM
"Fredi from the penalty spot" will now enter the White Hart Lane hymnbook, alongside "Nayim from the halfway line" ;D

On another note, Jose Ramos' team fcuked you Goons last night... a taste of things to come closer to home ;)

.....though I would think that the Arsenal First Team demolition of Ramos' Seville, when he was actually in charge, 3-0 is a better indicator.

Pretty pathetic that Spurs can only sing about the achievement of other clubs!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 28, 2007, 03:05:08 PM
"Fredi from the penalty spot" will now enter the White Hart Lane hymnbook, alongside "Nayim from the halfway line" ;D

its a pity none of the £40 million plus of striking talent on show at spuds can manage to do it. Maybe ye should try and buy him back? Although kanoute will hardly leave the champions league to play for a mid table team whose hilight this week is playing the likes of aalborg in the uefa cup! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2007, 03:13:59 PM
....on Channel 5 if lucky....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 30, 2007, 05:13:18 PM
from arsenal
Gael Clichy and Alex Hleb face late fitness tests ahead of the game at Aston Villa on Saturday but Cesc Fabregas is now definitely out.
 
The Spaniard injured his hamstring at Sevilla on Tuesday and was rated as highly doubtful by Arsène Wenger at his press conference on Thursday. He failed a fitness test on Friday morning.
 
Clichy (thigh) and Hleb (hamstring) have travelled to Birmingham ahead of the game but the manager will make a late call on both.
 
Meanwhile Robin van Persie (knee) and Abou Diaby (back) are injured. Mathieu Flamini returns after being kept out of the midweek defeat in Spain with a thigh injury. Emmanuel Adebayor and William Gallas are back after being rested against Sevilla.

Tough task this weekend. I would be happy with a draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2007, 06:45:19 PM
No team would like to be playing Villa right now.

Blackburn 0-4 Aston Villa
Middlesbrough 0-3 Aston Villa
Birmingham  1-2 Aston Villa
Aston Villa  2-0 Derby
Bolton  1-1 Aston Villa
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 03, 2007, 12:07:47 AM
That was a massive win yesterday. The football played in the first half was the best I've ever witnessed from Arsenal and that includes the 2002 and 2004 seasons. As the BBC site said it mirrored the 70s Dutch football (hope not the same end results!). All 11 players played the ball on the ground, 1-2 touch football. Wonderful.

However, when Villa upped the work-rate in the second as O'Neill's teams tend to do, Arsenal struggled massively. I've never seen Wenger's men put under so much pressure right until the death and that includes the Utd or Liverpool games. Normally teams eventually tire against Arsenal after 70 mins. Villa were mightily impressive in this regard and I hope that defeat doesn't harm their confidence.

Good games from Sagna, Diarra, Hleb and Adebayor.

Newcastle on Wed night. I see Barton has upped the stakes with the crowd for this game. It'll be a cauldron though an early goal will quell that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2007, 01:12:52 AM
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That was a massive win yesterday. The football played in the first half was the best I've ever witnessed from Arsenal and that includes the 2002 and 2004 seasons.


Was a key game for the goons yesterday. I was hoping that Villa would highlight a brittle interior for Wenger's men but this doesn't appear to be the case. I didn't see the game, but on the radio, and in every forum/media outlet since they were drooling about the Arsenal performance.

Its difficult to know what will happen in the Spring during 'squeky bum' time but a tricky away victory ground out is one hurdle cleared IMHO.


C'mon the Geordies!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 03, 2007, 01:17:47 AM
Superb result from arsenes boys yesterday. The ability to grind out results is what is setting them apart from the previous few years. The football in the first half was sublime, Ive never witnessed anything like it. Was a crunch fixture, and after O'Neills prediction of the seville result, it was imperative to bounce back yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 04, 2007, 04:20:25 PM
From arsenal.com

Alex Hleb and Mathieu Flamini have been ruled out of the trip to Newcastle on Wednesday.

The Arsenal squad left for Tyneside on Tuesday without FOUR international midfielders. Cesc Fabregas and Abou Diaby missed the 2-1 win at Aston Villa on Saturday with hamstring and back injuries respectively. They will not be returning at St James’ Park.

And during that morale-boosting victory in Birmingham, Hleb collected an Achilles/hamstring problem while Flamini fell victim to a recurrence of his thigh injury. Arsène Wenger will bolster his midfield by adding Denilson to his squad. He also has options in Lassana Diarra and Gilberto. However striker Robin Van Persie (knee) is still a couple of weeks away from a return.

“We have lost Alex Hleb and Mathieu Flamini from Saturday at Villa,” Wenger told Arsenal TV Online on Tuesday afternoon. “We have no-one back so that's Diaby, Van Persie, Hleb, Flamini and Fabregas out for this game.

“At one stage we thought it was congested in midfield but now it looks bare,” he joked. “But we still have quality players coming in there. We have Gilberto while Denilson is back after an injury. He is travelling with us. So we are very confident that we are still strong in the midfield.”

Hleb and Fabregas are unlikely to be back for Arsenal’s return to the North-East on Sunday at Middlesbrough however there is more optimism over the chances of Flamini playing at the Riverside Stadium.

i would go with  a 4 4 2, with sagna,kolo,gallas,clichy,walcott,diara,gilberto,rosiky,eduardo,adebayor.

newcastle are in a bad way at the back at the minute.Whoever i am always worried about a team who have agot a couple of bad beatings as the eventually have a lock out. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2007, 04:45:10 PM
Hoping for:

Almunia
Sagna-Toure-Gallas-Clichy
Gilberto
Walcott Diarra Denilson Rosicky
Adebayo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 05, 2007, 07:58:43 PM
1-0 to the Arsenal after only 3 minutes.  Newcastle have it all to do.  I'd say Man Utd are worrying about Arsenal this year, bet they wish they could play as good as football as Arsenal... ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on December 05, 2007, 08:16:34 PM
Yes because we play such shit football ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 05, 2007, 08:44:04 PM
As a Liverpool fan - I love watching them play - they are a far better team without Henry
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 05, 2007, 09:06:15 PM
Wan - Wan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on December 05, 2007, 09:15:10 PM
Wan - Wan.

another non english signing by wenger?? what age is this one?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: redcard on December 05, 2007, 09:44:40 PM
Wan - Wan.

another non english signing by wenger?? what age is this one?

Looks like he's ready to play himself  :D

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2007, 11:06:39 PM
Worryingly, Arsenal forte of exhausting the opposition to submission in the second half has been missing v Seville, v Villa and now v Newcastle.

Happy with the point though. Breathing space. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 05, 2007, 11:41:14 PM
Yes because we play such shit football ::) ::)

I never said they did.  Compleatly overated, I wouldnt say ronaldo, Rooney or Rio and a few others are hardly worth £15m.  They will do lucky to get forth this season. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on December 06, 2007, 12:12:35 AM
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They will do lucky to get forth this season.

But they play in the Scottish 3rd Division?

Stop adding to the Galway drugs epidemic ye bone idle westerner!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on December 06, 2007, 09:15:27 AM
Thought the gooners started brightly but faded badly in the 2nd half & indeed Newcastle looked the more likely to get a winner. Arsenal miss Fabregas in the middle as when they were getting it tight there was no-one to put their foot on the ball & take control.
Good result overall :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 02:56:07 PM
These are the points we cannot afford to lose, hopefully walcott can make a difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 09, 2007, 02:58:00 PM
These are the points we cannot afford to lose, hopefully walcott can make a difference.

you are confusing me at the minute with posting at different times of the day and night, what time is it there?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 03:01:07 PM
7am, coffe is brewing. :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lecale2 on December 09, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
2-0 Boro just scored again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 03:08:19 PM
FFFFFFFS >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on December 09, 2007, 03:56:06 PM
After losing to little Middlesbrough have you changed your tune yet Galwaybhoy? ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: redcard on December 09, 2007, 05:04:20 PM
Well done Boro. Makes the league interesting

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 09, 2007, 05:08:48 PM
This is getting interesting. What I seen of it today, Boro murdered the Goons, and should've won by more!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 05:28:07 PM
3-0 wouldnt have been too far a stretch of the truth of the game. Shocking performance from arsenal - hopefully one that will not be repeated.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on December 09, 2007, 06:33:16 PM
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This is getting interesting. What I seen of it today, Boro murdered the Goons, and should've won by more!!

Just like when united ended their last unbeaten run, Arsenal could go into free fall now, and without Thierry merce-Henry to steady the ship, could well slip out of sight.   I have looked into the future and foresee a thrashing at the Emirates on the hoizon.  Behold.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 09, 2007, 06:36:36 PM
The team is definitely suffering without the nucleus of Fabregas/Hleb/Flamini/Diaby/Van Persie.

Arsenal really need good news this week on the injury front or it'll be a very bleak Christmas.

Chelsea must be licking their lips at the prospect of meeting that team today next Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 09, 2007, 06:42:46 PM
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Chelsea must be licking their lips at the prospect of meeting that team today next Sunday.


Ah C'mon the mind games start! Chelsea have no Carvalho, Essien, Drogba, Ballack, nor possibly Cech! I'll take a point if it was offered.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2007, 11:24:13 PM
Mad Jens is back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 12, 2007, 12:34:00 PM
so is van persie. I also see that hleb or cesc may be be back for chelski but not both. >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 14, 2007, 04:52:10 PM
What a shock!
Arsenal now hot favourites for Sunday, with all the big guns back.


Arsenal got a major boost today ahead of their Chelsea clash Sunday, with Cesc Fabregas, Mathieu Flamini and Aleksandr Hleb all resuming training.

The midfield trio - each an important part of Arsenal's success this term - have been sorely missed as Arsenal embarked on their toughest fixture run to date this season.

All three players took part in the session at Arsenal's training ground Friday and could make a timely return in Sunday's Premier League game. Chelsea are third in the table, three points behind leaders Arsenal.

Wenger is keen to see his side return to winning ways after their first league defeat against Middlesbrough last Sunday and knows the importance of having his key players back. "Fabregas, Flamini and Hleb were back in training and I will make a decision on their fitness on Sunday morning," said Wenger.

"I want to leave it as late as possible before making a decision on if they will play but the signs have looked very positive in training. If Fabregas is fit, he will play."

Wenger is cautious, however, about rushing players back from injury for short-term gain. "It is always a kind of gamble when you bring players back because they could suffer a recurrence of the injury," he added. "That is why we have to sit down and make a decision.

"We know the importance of this game and playing against direct opposition is very big. But we have shown since the start of the season that we can compete with the top teams."

After playing in the 2-1 win against Steaua Bucharest in the Champions League Wednesday, striker Robin Van Persie could be in line to start and Abou Diaby is also fit again having featured in that match. Theo Walcott, however, has been ruled out with a knee injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Broken_Cross on December 16, 2007, 04:55:38 PM
Gallas on target again   ;D

Sol who!?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2007, 08:18:26 PM
Big, big win. Hairy enough at the end though could've ended up 4-3. Fabregas looked ring-rusty whereas Ashley Cole just has a rusty ring. Amazing how Flamini has gone from a bit-part to almost essential in 12 months - his energy and workrate is a necessity for Hleb and Cesc to strut their stuff. Very uncharacteristic of Cech.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 16, 2007, 09:58:59 PM
Big win is right, Gael Clichy fantastic stuff, RVP looks hungry......the referee was terrible, absolutely no control and Jamie Redknapp is a knob of the highest order. 2 horse race now....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: redcard on December 16, 2007, 10:06:25 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2007, 12:08:25 AM

Strange sort of a game. Observations, and mind that I've been on the tear today, and my blue tinteds are on;

* Goal was a totally out of character error by Cech. However the Goons were aided by a push by Gallas on Ben Haim.
* Flamini, as O'Neill points out, is now a key player for Arsenal, and was excellent today.
* Eboue...the same Eboue who should've been suspended for this game...should've seen red for that tackle on JT. You can imagine the outrage if Obi one, or Essien had've done that.
* Chelsea were slightly toothless, and despite buckets of posession never convinced that a goal was coming. However I thought we played pretty well considering we were minus Drogba, Ballack, Carvalho, Essien and then JT. Essentially the spine of the team was wiped out.
* Fibreglass- Great player, but a wee p***k. Took a sneaky kick at Cole in the last minute, and then when Cole grabbed him went down holding his face.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2007, 09:28:52 AM
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Eboue...the same Eboue who should've been suspended for this game...should've seen red for that tackle on JT. You can imagine the outrage if Obi one, or Essien had've done that.

Rubbish, I'm no fan of Eboue but he simply tried to block the ball and his foot was not raised particularly high you see that every week. As for JT is that the same John Terry that should seen red for his over the top tackle on Fabregas  :o

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Fibreglass- Great player, but a wee p***k. Took a sneaky kick at Cole in the last minute, and then when Cole grabbed him went down holding his face.

Poor tackle from Fabregas but Cashely reacted like the petulent fool that he is, lucky not to see red for rasing his hand and yes Fabregas's reaction was disappointing something that I certainly won't condone..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 17, 2007, 09:56:26 AM
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Poor tackle from Fabregas but Cashely reacted like the petulent fool that he is, lucky not to see red for rasing his hand and yes Fabregas's reaction was disappointing something that I certainly won't condone..

Poor tackle is a bit of an understatement, there has been hatred between those two for a while now, and it didn't help that Cashley blocked Fabregas' shot whenever he had practically an invite to score.  Fabregas is class, but I agree that he is one of the biggest pricks about.  Cashley, and I wouldn't be his biggest fan, barely touched him yet he rolled about for 5 minutes. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 17, 2007, 11:58:05 AM
great result could have been 3-1 or 1-1 hopefully we can kick on from here now spuds on saturday. Van Persie need a few more games to get back his sharpness.
I thought the referee let too many tackle go early on. This then had a knock effect with the antics in the game. He also took a lot of shit from Lampard and Terry.Eboues tackle looked bad on the tv but he was going for the ball. The tackle by j cole on him was bad too that is why Toure ran 60 yards to it. Terry went to follow through on cesc even Hansen said it on match of the day and he normally has his nose up terrys ass. Cesc in turn was oout of order with the tackle on cole at the end. But cole retalliated and so should have seen red.   
Chelsea will be still inthe shake up at the end of the season. If liverpool lose another to Arsenal, Man u or Chelsea they are out of the running.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2007, 12:21:06 PM
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Rubbish, I'm no fan of Eboue but he simply tried to block the ball and his foot was not raised particularly high you see that every week. As for JT is that the same John Terry that should seen red for his over the top tackle on Fabregas

Terry won the ball. It's not his fault that Fibreglass happened to be prone behind it. I think that was opportunism.

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But cole retalliated and so should have seen red.
He grabbed him by the neck as far as I could see, but it was a silly move.


The one positive after yesterday, is that Chelsea have been to the Emirates, OT and Anfield now, which makes things 'easier'.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 18, 2007, 02:44:12 PM
from arsenal.com
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup Quarter-final tie with Blackburn Rovers.

The manager has rung the changes with the squad containing just two players involved in Sunday's win over Chelsea. Philippe Senderos was an unused substitute and Nicklas Bendtner was a 90th minute replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor.

Please note that Theo Walcott pulled out of tonight's squad after waking up this morning and feeling unwell.

2 Abou DIABY (Age 21)           
6 Philippe SENDEROS (Age 22)           
8 Lassana DIARRA (Age 22)           
9 EDUARDO (Age 24)           
15 DENILSON (Age 19)           
17 Alex SONG (Age 20)           
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK) (Age 22)           
26 Nicklas BENDTNER (Age 19)           
30 Armand TRAORE (Age 18)           
31 Justin HOYTE (Age 22)           
34 Kieran GIBBS (Age 18)           
36 Mark RANDALL (Age 18)           
40 Vito MANNONE (GK) (Age 19)           
41 Gavin HOYTE (Age 17)           
42 Fran MERIDA (Age 17)           
43 Nacer BARAZITE (Age 17) 

This is a hugh test tonight against blackburn who will be fielding a strong team. A result is achieveable, although with senderos the most experience defender on display, i am worried!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on December 18, 2007, 08:41:31 PM
from arsenal.com
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup Quarter-final tie with Blackburn Rovers.

The manager has rung the changes with the squad containing just two players involved in Sunday's win over Chelsea. Philippe Senderos was an unused substitute and Nicklas Bendtner was a 90th minute replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor.

Please note that Theo Walcott pulled out of tonight's squad after waking up this morning and feeling unwell.

2 Abou DIABY (Age 21)           
6 Philippe SENDEROS (Age 22)           
8 Lassana DIARRA (Age 22)           
9 EDUARDO (Age 24)           
15 DENILSON (Age 19)           
17 Alex SONG (Age 20)           
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK) (Age 22)           
26 Nicklas BENDTNER (Age 19)           
30 Armand TRAORE (Age 18)           
31 Justin HOYTE (Age 22)           
34 Kieran GIBBS (Age 18)           
36 Mark RANDALL (Age 18)           
40 Vito MANNONE (GK) (Age 19)           
41 Gavin HOYTE (Age 17)           
42 Fran MERIDA (Age 17)           
43 Nacer BARAZITE (Age 17) 

This is a hugh test tonight against blackburn who will be fielding a strong team. A result is achieveable, although with senderos the most experience defender on display, i am worried!


Two up after 29 minues - great performance so far......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 18, 2007, 08:43:09 PM
Arsenal roqued by santa when they were cruzing.
2-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 08:49:50 PM
You're an awful balax hardstation ....you're 3 mins ahead of my steam. Type slower please.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 18, 2007, 09:09:36 PM
Jeepers, he nearly delivered a second there.

It was just a bag of ashes that he got from Mr. Black though.
Mr. Black must have been doing a bit of burning.

Jaysus, I'm sad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 18, 2007, 09:20:32 PM
2-2
Santa is sleighing them tonight. "Sorry to rein on your parade deer", he said to Arsene.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 18, 2007, 09:25:21 PM
You on the Sherry?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 18, 2007, 09:26:24 PM
Nah, just on my funny half hour. I might have a few later. That could be interesting.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 18, 2007, 09:53:10 PM
Denilson sent off. Someone called his name but he thought that they said, "Two nil son."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 09:55:37 PM
Hope some one scrapes Savage with their nails.

ET.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on December 18, 2007, 10:02:57 PM
Hope some one scrapes Savage with their nails.

ET.

Did Savages mother have any children that lived? hateful hoor.......He is a prime example of a mediocre player that will retire a millionaire due to the amount of money sloshing about the Premiership.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 18, 2007, 10:13:09 PM
Oops
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 18, 2007, 10:13:24 PM
3-2 for Arsenal.
Yer man Edwards gets his second.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 10:15:23 PM
pelanties i'd say.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 18, 2007, 10:17:28 PM
pelanties i'd say.
Leave me alone. I was only a wee lad.
Hope it does go to penalties though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Broken_Cross on December 18, 2007, 10:37:10 PM
top result for the young guns  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 18, 2007, 10:42:44 PM
Can't believe Blackburn didn't get the eagliser*. They hit everything else but the net.

*Another one of my mispronunciations when I was a cub.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 10:49:07 PM
Some record Arsene's babies have in this competition over the last 5-6 years. Hope to draw Spurs again. Remember 'Are you watching....'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: dec on December 21, 2007, 02:28:56 PM
I don't know if any of you Gunners fans are on the western side of the Atlantic but if you are, FSC has 5 Arsenal cup finals on Christmas day.

http://www.soccertv.com/foxsoc.cfm

1971 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Liverpool
1979 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Manchester United
1993 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Sheffield Wednesday
2001 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Liverpool
2002 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Chelsea
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 22, 2007, 03:38:58 PM
great result  today, although not a great performance. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 22, 2007, 03:42:33 PM
great result  today, although not a great performance. 

nothing to do with arsenal but that was some fetch by willie joe that you have as your avatar ildanach. 1985 gainst the dubs I presume? My 1st time in croker happy days
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 22, 2007, 05:01:09 PM
Poor performance today but a always a guaranteed 3 points against the Spuds,. I like the big Dane think he'll be something special but why did Wenger play only 1 up front at home doesn't suit the Gooners fluid style at all....happy days though  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 22, 2007, 05:07:58 PM
Very subdued Dinny. Any word on Van Persie? A great move for Adebayor's goal with Cesc always producing that wee bit of class in every game.

Wenger seems to favour the 1 up front tactic and to be fair to him it has come up trumps so often this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 22, 2007, 05:28:03 PM
Seemingly RVP has  a "little" injury and should be available for the Portsmouth game, Portsmouth were very poor today, I think their players have one eye on the ANC, think the goons will pick up all three..

This story along with the Tree House Charity gig last week restores some faith in premiership footballers, I like the comment about socialising with wives and partners wonder was that a dig at the roasters up north..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=504116&in_page_id=1779 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=504116&in_page_id=1779)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 23, 2007, 10:35:20 PM
[[/quote]

nothing to do with arsenal but that was some fetch by willie joe that you have as your avatar ildanach. 1985 gainst the dubs I presume? My 1st time in croker happy days
[/quote]

Ya spot on, he got up some height that day, that and brogans goal, 2 great things from 85
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2007, 02:05:48 PM
Very frustrating game. NO MORE 4-5-1 Arsene. Teams just park the bus in the middle and suffocate Fibreglass and Hleb. Wings haven't really been used since Pires left. Would love to see Adebayor given a rest - he's been playing that role non-stop recently. Away to Everton on Sat. Another 1-pointer.

Feel that this festive period is giving us a look at the final table. Utd won't slip up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2007, 05:26:19 PM
Bendter and Van persie up front could be very productive IMHO. The big Scandinavian looks a good player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 28, 2007, 09:46:31 AM
from arsenal.com

Robin van Persie will NOT be fit to return against Everton on Saturday - and William Gallas is a doubt for the weekend trip to Merseyside.

The Dutch striker made his first start for two months against Steaua Bucharest on December 12 after a long-term knee injury and came on as a substitute against Chelsea four days later.

He was sidelined for the north London derby with what was described by Arsene Wenger as a "little muscular problem, but a very minor one". Van Persie was expected to feature at Everton but that is no longer the case. To make matters worse, Gallas suffered an injury against Portsmouth on Boxing Day.

"Van Persie will not play on Saturday," confirmed Wenger after the 0-0 draw at Fratton Park. "We don't know about Gallas yet. He got a kick on his foot late in the first half."


I would like them to start with eduardo and bentner this weekend, i am worried though that we will have senderos playing. If he is we will be lucky to get a point!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 09:32:08 PM
In conversation with Dinny on the Chelsea thread I thought this game was akin to Chelsea's visit to Blackburn in Feb 2005 where they got kicked around the placed but fought to earn a 1-0 win. The psyche of the players changed overnight, and the league was won that night in Ewood.

Tonight's game for Arsenal although not as pivotal, will give them a lot of self belief to press on from here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2007, 09:36:24 PM

Tonight's game for Arsenal although not as pivotal, will give them a lot of self belief to press on from here.

Definitely. Even when Utd lost earlier today, I was thinking that it was a stroke of luck as Arsenal'd only be 1 behind after a tough festive period. It was a freaky score. Arsenal were absolute shit in the first half. Even though I was hoping Adebayor'd be rested, Bentner showed nowt that he'd be a starter in the future. Again the midfield were lacklustre and blunt. Hleb and Fabregas have lost their pre-injury form.

West Ham at home next - the only away side to win a game of football at the Emirates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on December 30, 2007, 02:17:01 AM
It looks like Lehman, Gilberto & Diarra could all be away in the January transfer window.

While losing Mad Jens & Gilberto to Germany & Italy probably wont hurt the gunners too much, Diarra going (possibly to Portsmouth) should be more of a concern.

Alliadiare at Middlesborough & Bentley at Blackburn have shown that there are better chances of first team football elsewhere in the premiership.

Wenger's policy of loaning players out to potential rivals may backfire on him if Djorou comes back from Birmingham to sit on the subs bench or play in the reserves for the rest of the season.

Loaning players out or playing them in the league cup, may give them more experience, but it is also the best shop window for your rivals.

Too many former young guns may come back to punish us unless we adopt a policy of only selling, or placing players on loan, to foreign leagues.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2007, 09:13:32 AM
Two ex-gunners scored yesterday - Upson v Utd and Larsson. v Fulham.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 31, 2007, 12:21:04 PM
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Two ex-gunners scored yesterday - Upson v Utd and Larsson. v Fulham.

There must be at least 20 players in the premiership that came through the Arsenal Academy, what other club produces so many players of premiership standard if not necessarily top 4 standard......


Watched the Everton game in small pokey pub down in Wexford surrounded by funny looking one eyed people who all seem to be related, for some reason they all seem Man U fans, must have been a coincidence....anyway Arsenal were poor but to come away with a 4 -1 win will as Norf Tyrone says give the young goons tremendous belief...

Funny no one has mentioned the Man U Xmas party as an excuse for their poor form, since that party and the publicity their form has been brutal, I had always thought Manure would win the title although I think the tide is changing.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on December 31, 2007, 09:44:54 PM
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Two ex-gunners scored yesterday - Upson v Utd and Larsson. v Fulham.

There must be at least 20 players in the premiership that came through the Arsenal Academy, what other club produces so many players of premiership standard if not necessarily top 4 standard......


Watched the Everton game in small pokey pub down in Wexford surrounded by funny looking one eyed people who all seem to be related, for some reason they all seem Man U fans, must have been a coincidence....anyway Arsenal were poor but to come away with a 4 -1 win will as Norf Tyrone says give the young goons tremendous belief...

Funny no one has mentioned the Man U Xmas party as an excuse for their poor form, since that party and the publicity their form has been brutal, I had always thought Manure would win the title although I think the tide is changing.....


My Fantasy Football Team is called OUT-GUNNED - all ex Goons at some stage of their careers...

   
 

Hahnemann
Campbell   
Lauren
Upson
Ljungberg
Muamba
Larsson
Sidwell
Kanu
Aliadiere
Anelka (C)
   
Taylor
Pennant
Djourou
Cole 

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 31, 2007, 10:20:54 PM
Was Hahnamann a goon at one stage??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 01, 2008, 03:53:20 AM
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Was Hahnamann a goon at one stage??

Subsitute Taylor for Hahnemann and you have your goalie.....


From the team below which is made up of ex Arsenal players not academy add in Bentlly  and Harper from the top of my head....more to follow when I sober up..

Just remembered Graham Stack, Reading goalie....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2008, 06:04:24 PM
http://www.videoplayer.hu/videos/play/120337
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on January 01, 2008, 09:27:20 PM
Another good wins with the two centre men showing up well - another assist for cesc!
Good start to the year, especially after the evening result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2008, 12:41:04 AM
QPR have announced the signing of Arsenal defender Matthew Connolly - another one bites the dust.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 03, 2008, 05:35:30 AM
http://www.videoplayer.hu/videos/play/120337


Some finish by the big man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 04, 2008, 02:19:45 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2008, 02:21:32 PM
Wouldn't have minded him 2-3 years ago.

Big Jens to make his farewell on Sunday in the cup?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 04, 2008, 02:39:54 PM
more pics here

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=485997&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Exclusive+Pictures:+Beckham+trains+with+Club
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 04, 2008, 07:09:51 PM
Wouldn't have minded him 2-3 years ago.

Big Jens to make his farewell on Sunday in the cup?

Just as long as he doesn't do anything stupid and were still in the cup on Monday....I hope he's professional enough not to "throw" anything...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 04, 2008, 07:20:33 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02012008/58/greatest.html

Don't know if all you gooners have seen this but....TH was one of the greatest Gooners ever and I think we should all vote for him and see if we can get him in......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 04, 2008, 10:23:13 PM
Wouldn't have minded him 2-3 years ago.


Oh er missus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on January 09, 2008, 09:10:37 AM
Anybody tuned into Arsenal TV on Setanta yet?
Seen a few re-runs of past years and even Highbury seems dated from 04-05 season compared to the Emirates.
Is this channel going to be ppv when it gets up and running like manure and chelski tv?
Still it is progress...
Any predictions for tonight? I have a fear we could be done in central defence with Kolo gone but we have enough attacking options available with rvp coming back and  Eduardo showing great quality, i am backing a 2.1 win....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 09, 2008, 04:35:37 PM
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup Semi-Final first leg against Tottenham at Emirates Stadium.

As revealed by Arsenal.com yesterday, Robin van Persie returns to action after a muscle strain. Theo Walcott is also fit to play while Bacary Sagna and Gilberto have both been named in the squad.

Arsenal squad to face Tottenham:

2 Abou DIABY
3 Bacary SAGNA
6 Philippe SENDEROS
9 EDUARDO
11 Robin VAN PERSIE
15 DENILSON
19 GILBERTO
20 Johan DJOUROU
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK)
26 Nicklas BENDTNER
30 Armand TRAORE
31 Justin HOYTE
32 Theo WALCOTT
36 Mark RANDALL
40 Vito MANNONE (GK)
41 Gavin HOYTE

Diarra must be on the way out when he didn't even make the squad. It is a pity, i thought he had the making of a great player and he was very versatile. but he just did not seem to have patience to wait. I can unerstand though as he is trying to hold a place down in the french team. i would have rated him above diaby, flamini and gilberto though.

prediction for tonight 2 v 1 ( they are bound to get 1 with that tool senderos playing!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2008, 04:43:33 PM
Diarra is named in the squad on the BBC website  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 09, 2008, 04:46:42 PM
 I took that from arsenal.com
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 10, 2008, 09:21:13 AM
Bloody BBC are useless....

That was a dire performance last night, Aresnal played well in patches with perhaps only Hoyte, Walcott, Traore and Bendtner coming out with any credit however Sagna must be the best right back in the Premiership and his attitude and committment is fantastic, definitely one of the signings of the season........

Sadly Senderos has to go, he is the new Gus Ceasar...........

Oh and I can't see Spurs ever beating Arsenal, that was there best chance in a long time and they just choked....

Anyway else notice Ray Wilkins drooling over Berbatov when he made a decent pass but staying strangely quiet when he gave away the ball which was pretty often, definitely a very over-rated player...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 10, 2008, 11:00:52 AM
Another annoying thing with Wilkins last night was he kept saying the average age of these boys was 22 ??? and the expereince they were getting, well if they are not playing by 22 they might as well forget it. Just wondering at what age does a boy become a man with ray wilkins
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 10, 2008, 12:35:58 PM
thought we were brutal, very lucky  to get the draw. Gilberto was shit with o hara totally out shinning him in midfield. Hopefully arsene will not sell diarra now as we are limited in this position. Diaby is very one footed and does not seem to use his left at all even when in trouble. I know he is a centre mid field but he is like tits on a bull out on the wing!! On the plus for someone who doesn't like playing in the centre hoyte was very composed in the second half. I fancy us to get through though in the second leg. 20 games with out a spurs win!! ;D,11 times to take the lead and not finish the job ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 10, 2008, 01:53:57 PM
Yer young lad O'Hara looks a great player.

All this talk of always beating Spurs...a few years back in 2001 or something, Chelsea had a similar record- if not better- against Spurs, and went in the league cup 2nd leg in a very similar state. Again the pysche was 'Chelsea always beat Spurs.'

Final score: Spurs 5 Chelsea 1!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 10, 2008, 02:00:58 PM
A very disappointing performance last night at home. Gilberto's gone/done/surplus to requirements. When once he was a useless CB cover, he's now a liability. Get £1m and farm him out. Senderos started badly but looked more composed second half. Again, though, he does not generate confidence for any period of the 90. Diaby is definitely no Vieira but I still feel he has shown enough to be a regular in the near future. He needs a Flamini or Fabregas beside him. Eduardo is starting to show what he's made of and his general play outside of the box is mightily impressive - even reminiscent of DB10, almost more a Bergkamp than Van Persie who was oddly subdued - almost as if he couldn't give a toss about the Carling.

I'm sure AW will stick with this squad for the second leg. Spurs should win it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 10, 2008, 02:20:45 PM
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Van Persie who was oddly subdued

He was injured..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 10, 2008, 04:27:02 PM
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Van Persie who was oddly subdued

He was injured..

i see it is the flu he has, not a re occurance of the injury fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Broken_Cross on January 11, 2008, 01:49:31 PM
Anybody tuned into Arsenal TV on Setanta yet?
Seen a few re-runs of past years and even Highbury seems dated from 04-05 season compared to the Emirates.
Is this channel going to be ppv when it gets up and running like manure and chelski tv?
Still it is progress...
Any predictions for tonight? I have a fear we could be done in central defence with Kolo gone but we have enough attacking options available with rvp coming back and  Eduardo showing great quality, i am backing a 2.1 win....

Changed yesterday from Setanta on Freeview to Sky. I had got a free digibox and two months subscription as a TalkTalk customer but would not have paid £9.99 a month for 1 channel on Freeview. They changed me from Fv to Sky and I am paying £5 a month for the first 3 months (£9.99 thereafter) and I get all 12 Setanta channels including Arsenal TV, official launch tonight I think.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 17, 2008, 11:40:42 AM
See Lassana Diarra has signed for Pompey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 17, 2008, 11:49:19 AM
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See Lassana Diarra has signed for Pompey.

Pity, he's a good prospect but he's obviously hungry to play. He could have stayed at either Chelsea or Arsenal and taking the easy life so you'd have to respect his desire...

Arsenal TV.....was that Lofty from Eastenders doing the punditry...it was surreal watching it....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 17, 2008, 12:00:56 PM
disappointed he is gone i think we are lacking in the centre of midfield and he is also a very versatile player who could have filled in in a few positions.
Big game thiis weekend we need a win. I have a feeling united will drop points this week against reading.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 21, 2008, 12:48:17 PM
from arsenal.com

Arsène Wenger could be forced to draft in a couple of first-team players for Tuesday’s Carling Cup Semi-Final second leg at White Hart Lane.
 
The Arsenal manager has a policy of playing squad players in this competition. For example, in the first leg, Justin Hoyte was the only starter to retain his place from the previous Premiership game — and the former England Under-21 international has hardly been a regular in the top-flight this term.
 
Wenger is without five players at the moment — three of them centre back — and, as a result, he may employ some experience.
 
“The players who were on the bench at Fulham will play,” he said. “But I will have to play one or two who played on Saturday because we are short in numbers.”
 
One reporter asked if William Gallas would be one of that duo.
 
“I will see,” replied the Arsenal manager. “Come to the game on Tuesday!”

Big game tomorrow i think we might just ge through by the a single goal 1-2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 01:50:38 PM
I think that after almost a whole decade of trying, the Spuds might finally manage to get one over the Arsenal (reserves) tonight. I think Wenger should resist playing anyone who'll run the risk of injury before the CL kicks into being again. Apparently Spurs are very much up for this (team and fans - God Help Them!) and perhaps Wenger should gift them this as thanks for allowing Jennings, Campbell, Stead, Walford, Groves, Neill and Young to move on to a bigger club.

Was reading this on Wiki:

As of January 9, 2008, there have been 158 competitive first-class meetings between the two teams since the first league meeting in 1909, of which Arsenal have won 66 and Tottenham 49. The most goals in one game were scored in the closely contested 5-4 Arsenal Premiership victory at White Hart Lane on November 13, 2004. The biggest winning margin was 6-0 to Arsenal on March 6, 1935. The last Tottenham victory over Arsenal was on November 7, 1999, when Spurs won 2-1 at White Hart Lane; the Gunners have remained unbeaten against their North London rivals in the 21 matches (seventeen Premiership, one FA Cup, three League Cup) since, as of January 9, 2008. In 2004, Arsenal won the title at their rivals' home ground, repeating their triumph of 1971

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 22, 2008, 02:20:32 PM
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup Semi-Final second leg against Tottenham at White Hart Lane.

Arsenal squad to face Tottenham:

2 Abou DIABY
3 Bacary SAGNA
4 Cesc FABREGAS
9 EDUARDO
10 William GALLAS
13 Alexander HLEB
15 DENILSON
16 Mathieu FLAMINI
19 GILBERTO
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK)
25 Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
26 Nicklas BENDTNER
30 Armand TRAORE
31 Justin HOYTE
32 Theo WALCOTT
40 Vito MANNONE (GK)

Stronger squad than usual. I would think that flamini,hleb, fabregas,  will be on the bench though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on January 22, 2008, 02:46:29 PM
IMO

 - Fabianski
Sagna - Hoyte - Gallas - Traore
Diaby - Denilson - Gilberto - Hleb
- - - Walcott - Bendtner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 22, 2008, 03:44:01 PM
IMO

 - Fabianski
Sagna - Hoyte - Gallas - Traore
Diaby - Denilson - Gilberto - Hleb
- - - Walcott - Bendtner

a good team, but i would prefer eduardo up front. I think he will go with walcot on the wing but i would rather hleb and bring walcot on on the second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 22, 2008, 04:43:45 PM
have a good feeling about tonight, expect spurs to come out all guns blazing kicking all around them and hoping berbatov will do something, arsenal ride the storm then get into their rythmn hitting spurs on the break. dreams of 3-0 to the arsenal (reserves) but think  1-0 will do us!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 06:44:02 PM
I'd be slightly concerned about starting Gallas. This match is way down in terms of what Arsenal want to achieve this year. For him to get injured, with Toure, Eboue and Djourou out, would be a disaster. Stick Gilberto back there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 07:55:40 PM
Fabianksi---------------

Sagna---Hoyte-----Gallas---Traore

Hleb---Denilson---Gilberto---Diaby

---------Walcott----Bendtner--

Good call Jaykay.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 22, 2008, 08:04:04 PM
IMO

 - Fabianski
Sagna - Hoyte - Gallas - Traore
Diaby - Denilson - Gilberto - Hleb
- - - Walcott - Bendtner

do you do lotto numbers?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 22, 2008, 09:07:42 PM
2 nil down half time ,could this be the end of the great 9 year run against spurs? if we get one early we could still do it(but thats a big if!!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 22, 2008, 09:50:56 PM
Well done Spuds every dog has his day...

How long before Fearon exclaims Spurs greatest every victory........

Damn, Arsenal have just the Premiership, FA Cup and Champions League to worry about now.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 09:52:06 PM
And to be fair, they beat (well) a decent Arsenal side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 22, 2008, 10:30:28 PM
no need for that fat w"£ker fearon to come on here and gloat he starts another pointless thread that gets a few replies then slips into oblivion after a few days, as dinny said plenty of bigger fish to fry, great experience for the young boys against spurs first team. hopefully bendtner and the likes come thru and do it for the first team...up the arse!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 22, 2008, 10:40:35 PM
Yer young lad O'Hara looks a great player.

All this talk of always beating Spurs...a few years back in 2001 or something, Chelsea had a similar record- if not better- against Spurs, and went in the league cup 2nd leg in a very similar state. Again the pysche was 'Chelsea always beat Spurs.'

Final score: Spurs 5 Chelsea 1!!!!!!!


Now if only I'd money on that............
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on January 22, 2008, 11:52:07 PM
Yer young lad O'Hara looks a great player.

All this talk of always beating Spurs...a few years back in 2001 or something, Chelsea had a similar record- if not better- against Spurs, and went in the league cup 2nd leg in a very similar state. Again the pysche was 'Chelsea always beat Spurs.'

Final score: Spurs 5 Chelsea 1!!!!!!!


Now if only I'd money on that............
;D ;D ;D

About bloody time we won, and did it in style. Sure it might "only" be the League Cup, but a win's a win, especially after so long, and sure the non-"big 4 (soon to be 3)" teams get rare enough opportnities for success, so it's nice to get there.

Only thing is, I hope the final has a better ending this time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 23, 2008, 12:01:14 PM
very good win for for spurs, They deserved it. I thought the 3rd goal was the clincher. If we had got one back at that stage they may have imploded. But they were by far the hungerier sharper team -  Important to refocus now as newcastle in the cup at the weekend.
on a plus side that was a screamer adebayor got!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 12:06:33 PM
very good win for for spurs, They deserved it. I thought the 3rd goal was the clincher. If we had got one back at that stage they may have imploded. But they were by far the hungerier sharper team -  Important to refocus now as newcastle in the cup at the weekend.
on a plus side that was a screamer adebayor got!

Aye it was some dig he hit Bendtner alright......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
How in Earth did Adebayor escape a red card, never mind a yellow for that slap at Lee?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2008, 01:14:54 PM
How in Earth did Adebayor escape a red card, never mind a yellow for that slap at Lee?

Not to mention the head butt on Bentdner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tintin25 on January 23, 2008, 01:19:28 PM
How in Earth did Adebayor escape a red card, never mind a yellow for that slap at Lee?

Not to mention the head butt on Bentdner.

As a neutral...have to say that Adebayor is a great player.

Adebayor > Berbatov
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 23, 2008, 02:14:03 PM
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How in Earth did Adebayor escape a red card, never mind a yellow for that slap at Lee?

Nice fishing, Lee went down like Elias in Platoon.....

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2008, 02:24:14 PM
I thought that too Dinny. Another example of that sort of sh1te that is turning me more and more off soccer. Once, just once, I'd love to see the like of that lad at the bottom of a ruck on a wet Saturday out in Clifford Park or somewhere. They don't know they're born.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 02:26:33 PM
I thought that too Dinny. Another example of that sort of sh1te that is turning me more and more off soccer. Once, just once, I'd love to see the like of that lad at the bottom of a ruck on a wet Saturday out in Clifford Park or somewhere. They don't know they're born.

Have to agree AZ,it is becoming more and more difficult to identify with.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2008, 02:51:52 PM
What's this all about? I just got it in an RSS feed. I wasn't really looking at all the game, but I didn't notice it. What happened? Is there history here?

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During the closing stages, with the tie already lost, Nicklas Bendtner - who had earlier scored an own goal - became involved in an altercation with team-mate Emmanuel Adebayor, and appeared to complain of being headbutted by the Togo international.

Arsenal captain William Gallas stepped in to try to calm matters down, before then himself being confronted by the angry young Danish striker. Eventually, referee Webb had to intervene to restore order.

As the Yorkshire official revealed he did not witness the events in their entirety, the FA have now asked broadcasters to provide any relevant television footage.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2008, 02:59:32 PM
What it says on the tin. He stuck the nut on him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2008, 03:01:14 PM
Is there a history there?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 23, 2008, 03:14:57 PM
from arsenal.com

Emmanuel Adebayor believes Arsenal’s unity and focus will enable them to put last night’s defeat at Tottenham behind them and achieve “a fantastic season”.

The Togolese striker came off the bench to score the visitors’ only goal in the 5-1 defeat at White Hart Lane in the Carling Cup Semi-Final second leg.

It was a disappointing night for Arsenal and passions were running high late on as they sought to find a way back into the tie. Afterwards, Adebayor remained optimistic about the team’s chances in the remaining three competitions this season.

“We are a strong unit and what happened last night against Spurs will strengthen our desire and determination to compete for other targets,” he said.

“Overall I think that we should have been more calm during the game and although I was pleased to get a goal back for the team when I came on, I am sorry for the disagreement with my team-mate Nicklas.

“We are both passionate about this Club and sometimes that can be projected in the wrong way. It was a mistake. We want to focus on the games ahead and rely on our squad’s great togetherness to achieve a fantastic season.”


This shows to me that neither liked getting stuffed by spurs.  It shows they care!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2008, 03:20:46 PM
from arsenal.com

Emmanuel Adebayor believes Arsenal’s unity and focus will enable them to put last night’s defeat at Tottenham behind them and achieve “a fantastic season”.

The Togolese striker came off the bench to score the visitors’ only goal in the 5-1 defeat at White Hart Lane in the Carling Cup Semi-Final second leg.

It was a disappointing night for Arsenal and passions were running high late on as they sought to find a way back into the tie. Afterwards, Adebayor remained optimistic about the team’s chances in the remaining three competitions this season.

“We are a strong unit and what happened last night against Spurs will strengthen our desire and determination to compete for other targets,” he said.

“Overall I think that we should have been more calm during the game and although I was pleased to get a goal back for the team when I came on, I am sorry for the disagreement with my team-mate Nicklas.

“We are both passionate about this Club and sometimes that can be projected in the wrong way. It was a mistake. We want to focus on the games ahead and rely on our squad’s great togetherness to achieve a fantastic season.”


This shows to me that neither liked getting stuffed by spurs.  It shows they care!!!!

Nutting your own teammate is a hell of a way to show you care.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 23, 2008, 03:25:10 PM
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Is there a history there?

None that I am aware of, Bendtner though seemingly is very arrogant about his ability.....it wasn't a full on headbutt but disappointing and probably would have led to a red card if the referee saw it, Gallas handled it pretty well, nice to see passion about the humiliation as ildanach says....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on January 23, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Off to London on Saturday and touched for 2 tickets for the Arsenal Newcastle game ... arm and a leg by the way..

1. Anyone suggest a good place for a pint b4hand..

2. Is it a silly idea to try and get a tube just after the game? or how should I try and get back to the centre of London...

Much obliged
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
Off to London on Saturday and touched for 2 tickets for the Arsenal Newcastle game ... arm and a leg by the way..

1. Anyone suggest a good place for a pint b4hand..

2. Is it a silly idea to try and get a tube just after the game? or how should I try and get back to the centre of London...

Much obliged

There are a number of decent pubs around the area, The Tavern and The Gooner in order of preference. Just ask around, you'll be directed. Do not attempt to go into any of the Irish bars around Finsbury Park. The tube is worse on CL nights as no-one will be hanging around. You should be Ok for this game and during the match there'll be updates if any problems arise. It all depends on what time you need to be in the city for.

Disappointed to hear you paid over-the-odds for tickets. You should've PMed me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on January 23, 2008, 04:29:15 PM
Thanks for that .. will in future as I feel the crack on Saturday will be 90... ps - Irish pubs in Finsbury Park.... dodgy or too packed..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 06:25:14 PM
Dodgy. One was owned by a woman from Omagh. She told us not too stay too long as she'd had a few problems with stabbings and muggings. The good thing about it though is that she will start serving at 7am if you knock on the window. I always hit the Tavern though it's a wee walk from the Arsenal tube station. You have to pass Highbury though - a sad sight. Make sure you walk up Avenell Road to see the old entrance to Highbury - it's still maintained.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 07:17:03 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 23, 2008, 08:10:13 PM
Dodgy. One was owned by a woman from Omagh. She told us not too stay too long as she'd had a few problems with stabbings and muggings. The good thing about it though is that she will start serving at 7am if you knock on the window. I always hit the Tavern though it's a wee walk from the Arsenal tube station. You have to pass Highbury though - a sad sight. Make sure you walk up Avenell Road to see the old entrance to Highbury - it's still maintained.

Yeh i was in the gooner and the tavern the last time i was over...Prefered the Gooner's there was a lot of Irish in there....Tube was ok as well even tho there was a muslim rally in central London that day...We were going straight back to the airport.....I swear if that guy beside me has have went anywhere his backpack he was getting it.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on January 23, 2008, 08:16:18 PM
O'Neill - last time I was at Highbury was the day before the last ever game at Highbury.. I was in the area and took a wander down. Crikey! There were thousands around the place.. All were getting a special tee-shirt from backs of lorries .. it was like a military operation... Still, I have been a Gunner since 1977.. and cried with Chippy when Ipswich beat us etc ... but what joy - 12.05.79!  looking forward to the game ... with the Missus so the beer will be a couple of swift ones before the match... will the tubeline be okay - say at 1.00 from central London?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 23, 2008, 09:14:07 PM
heading on tuesday the the newcastle league game, first time at the emirates, miss highbury bigtime!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 09:22:02 PM
Leaving at one for the three kick-off will be no problem, provided Tube is running normally.

As for yesterday's game, disillusioned big time with Diaby and Walcott. Diaby seems to be chronically one-footed and wastes so much possession. Lacks any creativity and seems to be dining out on the odd long-range strike. Walcott simply doesn't have the footballing brain of the foreigners. I think AW will shortly lose patience with him.

For Newc (league game and rest of season) I'd like to see

Sagna - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy
Hleb - Fabregas - Flamini - Rosicky
Eduardo - Adebayor

When the Africans return, Toure in for Phillipe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 23, 2008, 09:32:20 PM
Leaving at one for the three kick-off will be no problem, provided Tube is running normally.

As for yesterday's game, disillusioned big time with Diaby and Walcott. Diaby seems to be chronically one-footed and wastes so much possession. Lacks any creativity and seems to be dining out on the odd long-range strike. Walcott simply doesn't have the footballing brain of the foreigners. I think AW will shortly lose patience with him.

For Newc (league game and rest of season) I'd like to see

Sagna - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy
Hleb - Fabregas - Flamini - Rosicky
Eduardo - Adebayor






When the Africans return, Toure in for Phillipe.

RVP will push hard for a place when he returns also....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 09:35:43 PM
Yes, forgot about him - he's been out so long. Some say Hleb is more effective in a central area but I cannot see AW moving Flamini onto the wing. He seems to be an Eboue fan though  - I just hope he doesn't resort back to a 4-5-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 23, 2008, 09:41:30 PM
Yes, forgot about him - he's been out so long. Some say Hleb is more effective in a central area but I cannot see AW moving Flamini onto the wing. He seems to be an Eboue fan though  - I just hope he doesn't resort back to a 4-5-1.

Yeh I hope he keep's Flamini where he is...You shouldn't mess with something that isn't wrong.. The guy has been a revelation this season.I love his attitude, he always gets stuck it where it hurts...Eboue plays well with Sagna as he can drop back too and let Sagna attack but hes not in the same class as Hleb or Rosicky...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Pietas on January 23, 2008, 09:55:39 PM
I wouldn't normally comment on an arsenal thread, but I have to say the attitude of the team, manager and supporters (the ones I have listened to today, anyway) is a complete and utter disgrace.

Arsenal finished with about nine 1st choice players on the pitch, but all we've heard about is their 'youth team' or their 'under-16s.'

Arsenal were well beaten and took to fighting amongst themselves.

The Arsenal end of the ground was empty long before the end of the match and the manager's post match comments reflected very poorly on him. Ferguson, bad and all as he is, would not have done it.

Shame on arsenal. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Pietas on January 23, 2008, 09:59:33 PM
Off to London on Saturday and touched for 2 tickets for the Arsenal Newcastle game ... arm and a leg by the way..

1. Anyone suggest a good place for a pint b4hand..

2. Is it a silly idea to try and get a tube just after the game? or how should I try and get back to the centre of London...

Much obliged

last time i was theryre was at highbury.

the woodbine is a nice pub and a tube back into town shouldnt be too much bother
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:00:44 PM
Yes, the Eboue-Sagna partnership seems to reap dividends mostly and Eboue isn't afraid to whack in a cross for Adebayor. It's a tough call for the run-in.

Rosicky/Fabregas/Hleb are attack minded whereas Eboue/Flamini are defence first. If he gives Adebayor and Eduardo a run together I can see Rosicky losing out.

Although, when Arsenal were flying earlier in the season he was going with

Sagna, Toure, Gallas, Clichy
Eboue  Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb,
Rosicky 
Adebayor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 10:01:12 PM
Nothing happening here, everyone move along now please.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:06:09 PM
Ferguson, bad and all as he is, would not have done it.


Shreeves had questioned winger Cristiano Ronaldo over a controversial penalty award

Shreeves: 'I asked him'
Fergie: 'F*****g b**tard.'
Shreeves: 'Don't talk to me like that.'
Fergie: 'F**k off to you.'
Shreeves: 'Don't talk to me like that. Don't even think about it.'
Fergie: 'Don't you think about it, you c***. F**k off. Right?'
Shreeves: 'Listen, are you going to do the interview in a professional manner or not? Do you want to do it or not?'
Fergie: 'You f*****g be professional. You be professional. You're the one.'
Shreeves: 'I'm entitled to ask . . . . Cristiano gave the right answer.'
Fergie: 'F*****g hell with your answers.'
Shreeves: 'Don't talk to me like that. Go away. If you want to behave civilly, fine. Don't talk to me like that.'
Fergie: 'F**k off.'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Pietas on January 23, 2008, 10:20:38 PM
and your point is....
face it, wenger is a sour, ungracious man, he cant take a beating at all and is patently dishonest
im not questioning his abilities as a manager or the football his team play.
both are outstanding
but he can be an awful asshole
most rational arsenal fans agree

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:24:34 PM
F*****g hell with your answers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 23, 2008, 10:29:57 PM
and your point is....
face it, wenger is a sour, ungracious man, he cant take a beating at all and is patently dishonest
im not questioning his abilities as a manager or the football his team play.
both are outstanding
but he can be an awful asshole
most rational arsenal fans agree



Lucky he doesn't get beat too often then isn't it....At least he will do a interview when he does....He is a born winner..

"In Arsene we trust"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:30:47 PM
F*****g b**tard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 23, 2008, 10:34:56 PM
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Arsenal finished with about nine 1st choice players on the pitch, but all we've heard about is their 'youth team' or their 'under-16s.'

Team that started.....

Fabianksi
Sagna
Hoyte
Gallas
Traore
Hleb
Denilson
Gilberto
Diaby
Walcott
Bendtner

Of that team only Sagna, Gallas and Hleb would be first choice of the 3 subs used only Adebayor and Fab,  so Arsenal finished with 5 1st choice not 9. So there is obviously another reason why you don't comment on Arsenal because you haven't a clue. Show me a man gracious in defeat and I'll show you a loser. Anyway O'Neill Fergie doesn't give interviews because his son is a fraudster....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:38:46 PM
Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 11:51:25 PM
Walcott progress proving slow going

Two years ago Sven-Göran Eriksson surprised everyone with the addition of the 17-year-old Theo Walcott in England's World Cup squad. On Tuesday night, after yet another ineffective performance, the suggestion is that England's bright young hope is fading fast.

A player of obvious potential, as it takes a lot to catch the eye of Arsene Wenger, Walcott has struggled to continue his development among a squad of more talented individuals at Arsenal.

Signing from Southampton for a fee of £5million (rising to £12million after a set number of appearances for club and country) just over two years ago, there has been precious little to suggest that Wenger's 'massive gamble' will pay off.

The Englishman has started only 11 times this season, lasting the full 90 minutes just five times and has seen his first-team opportunities limited to substitute appearances, dead-rubber Champions League matches and the Carling Cup.

Indeed, while Walcott impressed against Slavia Prague in the 7-0 demolition back in October, scoring two goals and receiving widespread praise; the kind of hype that has followed him around since his unexpected journey to Germany has continued to dog a player who, in reality, has only ever shown glimpses of his talent.

Hindered by a congenital shoulder ligament problem that he inherited from his father, the youngster's form was adversely affected last season; although an operation over the summer which caused him to miss out on England's U21 European Championship campaign has cured the ailment.

Even when fully fit, Walcott has failed to impress and Wenger himself has recently voiced some concern over his development.

With Robin Van Persie struggling for fitness this season, one would have assumed that Walcott would be given a chance to shine. Not so. Wenger often chooses to play Alexander Hleb or Thomas Rosicky as a second striker behind the untouchable Emmanuel Adebayor, and Walcott's cause has not been helped by the emergence of Eduardo and Nicklas Bendtner either.

While Wenger may have made a mistake by playing him out of position on the wing (a trick he successfully managed with Thierry Henry before converting him into one of the world's best strikers), it seems that the player himself has a lot of work to do if he is to succeed in the side, as whenever he is given the chance to play through the middle he looks out of his depth.

Lacking the physical presence of an Adebayor or a Van Persie, Walcott's game is based on pace. He has speed in abundance, but rarely gets the chance to use it as Arsenal tend to prefer short passing moves to a long ball over the top.

Without being able to stretch his legs, Walcott is bullied by centre-halves. Tottenham's Ledley King and Michael Dawson had him in their pockets during Tuesday's Carling Cup game, and it took the introduction of Adebayor for Arsenal to cause Spurs' defence any trouble.

While the game should have represented Walcott's big chance to impress, in fact it did almost the opposite and only served to highlight the young striker's limitations - as he was removed from proceedings shortly after the first half.

On a positive note, Wenger has always maintained, if you're good enough, you'll play. An 18-year-old Nicolas Anelka proved himself worthy of a starting place, with 23 goals in 50 starts for the club back in 1998, before deciding to join Real Madrid; and, as a player in the same mould, Walcott can take solace from the fact that Wenger has a history of success in this area.

Yet, while Anelka emerged from out of the shadow of Ian Wright during his two years at Highbury, Walcott has struggled to lay to rest the ghost of another Gunners legend, Thierry Henry.

The comparisons between the two are obvious, especially if you happen to have seen the goal scored by Walcott in the Carling Cup final last year and the added pressure of replacing the talismanic Frenchman cannot have been easy to bear for one so young. That said, the rest of the team have stepped up a gear after Henry's departure to Barcelona and it seems to be Walcott alone who has felt it hardest.

His well-documented admiration for training with Arsenal's leading scorer may mean that while the rest of Wenger's young crop blooms, Walcott mourns. He has yet to net in the League and his recent performances have meant he is not even considered in the same breath as Henry now.

Indeed, not scoring may prove to be a bigger psychological mountain than Henry's legacy for the youngster in the long term, but if he can regain some confidence and add consistency to his obvious potential then the goals should come.

Wenger may maintain that: 'The expectation level is very high because he is young and he has been projected early in the spotlight', but pressure is to be expected at this level. Elsewhere in the Premier League there are players of a similar age who have set the benchmark for success.

A 16-year-old Wayne Rooney shot to fame scoring against Arsenal for Everton and his subsequent £30million transfer to Manchester United made him a household name. Although many would argue that Rooney's build is more suited to the style of the Premier League, the stocky striker has shown that he is more than capable of handling the pressure of a big game (one mad moment against Portugal aside).

Other young Englishman to make the grade after being thrust into the spotlight include Tottenham's Aaron Lennon and Newcastle's James Milner, who have both cemented their places in their club sides and are pushing for further international honours.

Unless Walcott can follow suit, it seems unlikely that he will catch the eye of new England boss Fabio Capello and is destined to go the way of other English talents to pass through the gates at Arsenal. Francis Jeffers, Matthew Upson, Richard Wright, Steven Sidwell and David Bentley were all tipped for the top but failed to make the right impression on Wenger and have continued their careers elsewhere.

While Walcott can consider himself unlucky in his situation, with a large price tag, some over inflated press talk and the fact that he is struggling for that first goal (always more noticeable in the public eye), the time will come when he has to prove himself capable of handling the pressure at a club like Arsenal. Or leave, even if it's only on loan.

Whatever the expectation level heaped upon him, there are few who would bet against Walcott making the grade in the Premier League one day. Whether that is at the Emirates or, like so many before him, it is with another club, remains to be seen.

He's in the right place to further his development, but any progress he makes from now on, is simply up to him.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=501025&root=england&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1&cc=5739
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 24, 2008, 01:01:45 AM
Ferguson comes from the back streets of Glasgow and doesn't hide the fact.  When he's annoyed he lets blast and when his team are second best he admits it and never makes excuses about not playing his best 11 - if they are ManU players they are expected to get the result ManU fans expect.  He has no back doors.   

Wenger plays the high class professor type but behind the veil everyone can see he's ungracious, sleeked and deceitful. A great manger but unlike Ferguson doesnt have the repect of many premiership managers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 07:49:09 AM
Fergie's excuses, let's compare:

Fergie makes excuses (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6618279.stm)
Wenger makes no excuses (http://www.4thegame.com/club/arsenal-fc/news/212866/wenger_makes_no_excuses.html)
Fergie makes excuses (http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=501936)
Wenger makes no excuses (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8689_2956971,00.html)


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2008, 09:46:08 AM
Don't let the truth get in the way O'Neill, we all know Ferguson good, Wenger bad  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 09:56:09 AM
Arsene always managed to bring out the worst (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1975624.stm) in Fergie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2008, 10:23:41 AM
‘I’m only on because you are so s**t!’ Adebayor to Bendtnar.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 24, 2008, 12:50:32 PM

As for yesterday's game, disillusioned big time with Diaby and Walcott. Diaby seems to be chronically one-footed and wastes so much possession. Lacks any creativity and seems to be dining out on the odd long-range strike.

I said that weeks ago on here!! i think diarra was better.  As for walcott, i think he has great pace but is not good enough for the first team at then minute, maybe he will develop into a good player but for me he is not as good as either barazite as a midfielder or vela as striker so i don't know what the future  holds for him. In truth of Kevin Keegan offered 12M for him in the morning I would bite the hand off him

Would like to see a new centre back coming in (as cover for gallas/toure)and another tackling midfielder but i cannot see any spending unitl the summer.
 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2008, 06:16:52 PM
Farce.


The FA are charging Chelsea weekly for, well whatever takes their fancy. However in the last few weeks we have seen;

* Ferguson gesticulate at Reading fans.
* Carragher climb onto advertising hoarding and 'have a go' at Luton fans.
* Adebayor push Lee in the face, right under the ref's nose.
* Bentdner and Adebayor go toe to toe, and indeed Adebayor headbutt Bendtner.
* Fabregas throw an object into the Spurs fans.

And guess what....none of them charged by the FA!!! People wonder why Chelsea fans are paranoid!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 10:30:56 PM
Simple, Norf, Chelsea ain't a big enough club to get off with misdemeanours.

Manure v Spuds on Sunday - who do we want to win that one? A draw, followed by a bad tempered replay as Ronaldo is banned for 3 years for making Hitler gestures.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2008, 10:52:53 PM
Simple, Norf, Chelsea ain't a big enough club to get off with misdemeanours.


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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 25, 2008, 09:18:03 AM
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Farce.


The FA are charging Chelsea weekly for, well whatever takes their fancy. However in the last few weeks we have seen;

* Ferguson gesticulate at Reading fans.
* Carragher climb onto advertising hoarding and 'have a go' at Luton fans.
* Adebayor push Lee in the face, right under the ref's nose.
* Bentdner and Adebayor go toe to toe, and indeed Adebayor headbutt Bendtner.
* Fabregas throw an object into the Spurs fans.

And guess what....none of them charged by the FA!!! People wonder why Chelsea fans are paranoid!!

What have been Chelsea been charged for lately?  They deserved to be charged for their heckling of referee's.  But I do agree with regards to Adebayor, its a complete joke how he has got away with this.  He was lucky not to see red for the push on lee.  And you have Wenger and his 'I never seen anything' attitude - he has cancelled the press conference today too.  Typical Wenger, hiding away instead of being a man and actually admitting that Adebayor has done something wrong.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 25, 2008, 09:37:17 AM
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Typical Wenger, hiding away instead of being a man and actually admitting that Adebayor has done something wrong.

I can't believe someone actually took time out of their lives to write that....... ::)

Will be interesting to see what team Wenger names on Saturday (That's if someone can find the French National hide and seek champion) although with an amazing 33 first players the team he picks will no doubt be first choice....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2008, 09:40:41 AM
"The FA will not take any formal disciplinary action against over the incident involving Arsenal team-mate Nicklas Bendtner during the Carling Cup semi-final second leg against Tottenham but will write to both players to remind them of their responsibilities."

Storm in a tea-cup. Wenger has told both to write a 1000-word essay on Kieran McGeeney.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on January 25, 2008, 12:22:15 PM
Arsene always managed to bring out the worst (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1975624.stm) in Fergie

Where as anyone can bring out the worst in wenger.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on January 25, 2008, 12:23:53 PM
But to cheer ONeill up

I present this


Chelsea's Cole is a love cheat , who has a small dick and cant hold his ale apparently.....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article725180.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article725180.ece)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2008, 12:55:28 PM
But to cheer ONeill up

I present this


Chelsea's Cole is a love cheat , who has a small dick and cant hold his ale apparently.....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article725180.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article725180.ece)

How can we be sure the other fella is telling the truth ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 25, 2008, 01:01:02 PM

Arsenal v Newcastle
FA Cup

Emirates Stadium
Saturday 26 January
Fourth Round
Kick-off: 1500 GMT
Referee: Martin Atkinson (West Yorkshire)
Replay: Wed, 13 February, 1945 GMT
BBC coverage: BBC Sport website, BBC Radio Five Live & highlights on Match of the Day.

Arsenal defenders Philippe Senderos and Gael Clichy are available for the FA Cup fourth round clash with Newcastle.

But Denilson is out for a month with a hamstring injury while Johan Djourou (groin) and Robin van Persie (thigh) remain in the treatment room.

Newcastle team news to follow later.

Arsenal (from): Almunia, Sagna, Senderos, Gallas, Clichy, Rosicky, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb, Eduardo, Adebayor, Lehmann, Gilberto, Diaby, J Hoyte, Bendtner, Walcott.

1st 11 there look good.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2008, 01:40:04 PM
“For a footballer, I didn’t think he was in great shape. His legs weren’t that big and he wasn’t completely toned up top.

“He asked me to lie down next to him and before long his hands were all over me.


“We started having sex but it wasn’t long before he said he felt sick again.


“Then he just rolled over and vomited on the floor, all over the cream carpet. It was disgusting.”


But Cole was not going to let that stop him scoring. Aimee said: “He had some mouthwash, then jumped back into bed.


“We started having sex again but his mates piled into the room.


That lad's went up in my estimation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2008, 01:56:48 PM
“For a footballer, I didn’t think he was in great shape. His legs weren’t that big and he wasn’t completely toned up top.

“He asked me to lie down next to him and before long his hands were all over me.


“We started having sex but it wasn’t long before he said he felt sick again.


“Then he just rolled over and vomited on the floor, all over the cream carpet. It was disgusting.”


But Cole was not going to let that stop him scoring. Aimee said: “He had some mouthwash, then jumped back into bed.


“We started having sex again but his mates piled into the room.


That lad's went up in my estimation.

That fella should have a bit more self respect & dignity, he should not be trailing Coles name through the mud in this manner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 25, 2008, 02:18:46 PM
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What have been Chelsea been charged for lately?  They deserved to be charged for their heckling of referee's.  But I do agree with regards to Adebayor, its a complete joke how he has got away with this.  He was lucky not to see red for the push on lee.  And you have Wenger and his 'I never seen anything' attitude - he has cancelled the press conference today too.  Typical Wenger, hiding away instead of being a man and actually admitting that Adebayor has done something wrong.

They were charged for failing to control ther players after Essien's red card v Derby. I am not defending Chelsea's actions in every instance, although some of the so-called offences are very watery. However the system should be equal for all. At the minute I believe Chelsea are getting a raw deal, and are effectivelly paying for Wembley by direct debit!

Every week I see players of various teams surrounding the ref, but NEVER charged. Essien was given a straight red for an identical challange to that of Adebayor! In addition the recent failed appeal over Ashley Cole's red card also leaves a bitter taste.

Are the FA getting back at Chelsea for 'crimes' committed during the Jose era, that they were too frightened to act on?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 25, 2008, 06:36:08 PM
Oh...and will that be amother £100k into Ashley's pocket from 'The Sun'?

Cole has clashed with the Sun before. In June 2006 the Sun and sister paper the News of the World are understood paid more than £100,000 in libel damages to the footballer as part of an out-of-court settlement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 28, 2008, 10:51:36 AM
Quote

A third club - reported to be Arsenal - is in the running to sign Middlesbrough defender Jonathan Woodgate after agreeing a fee for the England international.

Tottenham were thought to be favourites ahead of Newcastle to sign the 28-year-old but Boro chief executive Keith Lamb has revealed they have also accepted an offer from another side, with Sky sources reporting it is Arsenal.

"We've agreed a fee with Tottenham and as far as I'm aware he went down at the weekend to have a medical and we're just waiting to see," Lamb said.

"We agreed a fee with Tottenham, Newcastle and another club but we left it up to Jonathan, he could stay or go."

Woodgate is one of Middlesbrough's prize assets but the player has been troubled by injuries in the last few years and Lamb said manager Gareth Southgate was happy to let the player go providing his valuation - believed to be around £8million - was met.

"We've got an abundance of centre-backs and with the emergence of David Wheater and with Robert Huth back and Emanuel Pogatetz, Gareth felt he could let one of them go," Lamb told talkSPORT.

Really don't know what to make of this, he was a good player but hasn't really impressed me in years. Will be interesting to see if he comes at least it shows he's willing to comptete for his place rather than taking the soft option of Newcastle or the spuds...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 28, 2008, 05:28:45 PM
Tough FA cup draw, still if we are going to win it we would have to meet them somewhere along the way. I see we have drifted to 13/2 in the bookies for the cup, might be worth a punt closer to the utd game depending on injuries
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2008, 09:50:13 PM
Can we play Newcastle every week?

That was enjoyable to watch - Newcastle allow you to play the ball wherever and whenever you want. Adebayor is oozing goalscoring (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/1737306) confidence at the min, but the main man was Flamini. His goal (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1737477) was as good as any scored this year. Fabregas, who was relatively quiet again, notched the third (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1737495).

Top!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2008, 10:26:09 PM
...and 30 points ahead of Spuds. St Totteringham's day will hopefully fall on March 1st when I'm over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Broken_Cross on January 30, 2008, 01:37:46 PM
Three cracking goals. Cheers for the links ONeill, missed all but the result lastnight (training).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2008, 11:50:45 PM
Flamini's or Ronaldo's?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZhV2J7bZ9k
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 01, 2008, 08:19:05 AM
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Flamini's or Ronaldo's?

Great goal by Flamini however you see one like it every mopnth on goal of the month.  Roanldo's free kick is 1 in 1000.  the only free kick I can vivdly recall being better was Roberto Carlos's banana shot against France and that's nearly 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2008, 08:34:48 AM
Very good O'Neill  :D

But in fairness Ronaldo is probably going to deny Arsenal the title, he's scored more goals than Tevez and Rooney combined, actually Tevez has been pretty impressive as well, the boy Rooney could be another Michael Owen, peaked too early, watched him against Portsmouth and he looked devoid of confidence and has only scored 6 goals this season however Ferdinand, Vidic, Ronaldo and Tevez are all playing too well, need those 4 to lose form because at the moment teams are beaten even before they kick a ball against Man U..

Maybe the Spuds might do the Goons a favour tomorrow....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2008, 08:58:57 AM
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the only free kick I can vivdly recall being better was Roberto Carlos's banana shot against France and that's nearly 10 years ago.

Under the bar is your name Jamie...

Ronaldo is playing fantastic stuff but lets not getting carried away with the hyperbole of Skysports, check out Jose Manuel Rey's below and de rosario

RVP

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/859783/van_persie_free_kick_against_sunderland/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/859783/van_persie_free_kick_against_sunderland/)

Elano


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6vPMBG0xATs
 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6vPMBG0xATs)

Hunt

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjq2xT-tx38 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjq2xT-tx38)

Jose Manuel Rey


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KfOFifTBNjM (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KfOFifTBNjM)


de rosario

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K-z6iPk_9vM (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K-z6iPk_9vM)

 
Perspective gentleman please and I didn't even include any of the Brazlian boys, Zico, Ronaldhino or Carlos  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 01, 2008, 09:09:51 AM
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the boy Rooney could be another Michael Owen, peaked too early, watched him against Portsmouth and he looked devoid of confidence and has only scored 6 goals this season

He has 10 goals in 22 appearances this season for United, 6 goals in 14 league games.  When you consider he has been injured a few times then I would hardly say he has peaked too early.  It usually takes him a while to get back to his best after being out, as it does with any player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2008, 10:18:45 AM
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6 goals in 14 league games.

I said could be by the way, for a free scoring attacking side like Man U that is still a poor return for there main striker...for example RVP has 5 goals in 8 appearances...
Rooney for all the hype has yet to fulfill his talent, he should took at look at Ronaldo, you can only sit back and admire that lad, good attitude as well you never see him mouth of at refs or linesmen, doesn't even dive as much, one of the few premiership stars that I admire.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 01, 2008, 10:27:53 AM
I would agree, but there is no evidence that Rooney could or will fade out like Owen - and Owen's problem is more to do with injury than anything.  Before Rooney hurt his ankle he was in brilliant form, scoring frequently for United both at home and Europe and also scred in Russia for England - what a goal by the way!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2008, 10:38:40 AM
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Owen's problem is more to do with injury than anything

Partly but his attitude to me always poor and in fairness to Rooney he has an excellent work rate and unlike Owen he has an exellent man manager in Fergie I just think Rooney should be consistently better than he is, those chances he missed Wednesday night were criminal and if a Premiership XI was picked in the morning he'd be nowhere near it....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 01, 2008, 12:33:51 PM
Some of his misses of late have been bad, especially against Newcastle.  As for a premiership 11, what would yours be then? 

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2008, 11:19:52 PM
Prob me favourite Arsenal Vid - know him rightly well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXVT6haqutg
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Son_of_Sam on February 01, 2008, 11:24:05 PM
Liverpool fan, but was @ the league game on tuesday Arsenal V Newcastle, great goal by Flemeni. Denis Wise was sitting in section just above us.

Newcastle where utter muck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on February 02, 2008, 11:27:18 PM
Another good result and results went our way only for our neighbours to let Utd get a point....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
Go Guinea! Sent our boys home.

Thought Arsenal were returning back to their early-season form yesterday. Adebayor (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1745529)  is simply untouchable (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1745829) at the minute, Eduardo (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1745573) is improving, Hleb and Flamini on top form and Fabregas slowly returning to his normal self. Uncharacteristic mistake from Clichy (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1745596) .With 13 games left you're sort of looking to where you may drop points - the games at Old Tramford and Stamford are going to be hum-dingers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on February 03, 2008, 10:06:34 PM
Go Guinea! Sent our boys home.

You wish, just gone 3-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 03, 2008, 10:08:09 PM
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Go Guinea! Sent our boys home.

Feck ye O'Neill...I thought Ivory Coast had lost reading that!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 04, 2008, 02:40:08 PM
this new lad might be a good one for the future?

from arsenal.com

Luke Freeman has been at Arsenal for less than a fortnight - but he has already impressed Arsène Wenger.

The 15-year-old striker had three appearances for Gillingham under his belt when the Frenchman made him his solitary signing during January's transfer window. Wenger took Freeman under his wing on his first day at Arsenal's training ground and liked what he saw.

"When he came in on the first day, I took him with me to see what his characteristics were," revealed Wenger.

"He has had a good education at Gillingham and I am impressed by his personality.

"He is brave, knows what he wants and he is a lively guy in the box.

"He is 15 years old and it is down to him to progress
."


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:01:41 PM
He made his debu for the U18s at the weekend but they lost to West Ham. One of the West Ham scorers was a West Belfast 16 yr old and a certain Mr O'Neill appeared in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 04, 2008, 09:20:15 PM
It is a very interesting title race. Arsenal should beat Blackburn next Monday, Utd (hopefully) will beat City and Chelsea will beat Liverpool I'd say. As mentioned before in this thread, the team who loses the least amount of points will win the league at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:23:26 PM
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As mentioned before in this thread, the team who loses the least amount of points will win the league at this stage.

Plato stuff there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on February 05, 2008, 07:40:25 AM
It is a very interesting title race. Arsenal should beat Blackburn next Monday, Utd (hopefully) will beat City and Chelsea will beat Liverpool I'd say. As mentioned before in this thread, the team who loses the least amount of points will win the league at this stage.

Mystic Meg or what! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on February 07, 2008, 10:15:43 AM
Great news for Champions League, our prospects are looking up ;D

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=574708


They still have a quality panel to pick from but he's one less worry about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 07, 2008, 10:25:09 AM
It is a very interesting title race. Arsenal should beat Blackburn next Monday, Utd (hopefully) will beat City and Chelsea will beat Liverpool I'd say. As mentioned before in this thread, the team who loses the least amount of points will win the league at this stage.

I spit my Lemsip out laughing at that :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 07, 2008, 12:03:54 PM
I see Flamini picked up an ankle injury playing for france in a B international. Hope he is not out for too long as Gilberto has definately lost a yards of pace and diaby is not ready for the middle yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 10, 2008, 10:41:43 PM
I think United suffered a defeat too much today. Fergie was on about having to go unbeaten for the rest of the season if Utd were to win the league this year. Well we were beaten toda  and Arsenal should win the league now. Only 12 games left...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 11, 2008, 08:38:32 AM
Can't see any of the Gooners on this thread can't carried away. If Arsenal win tonight it sends out a statement, if they lose or draw it could be a big blow. Tonight could be the making of this Arsenal side....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2008, 08:42:31 AM
Massive game. Blackburn have been a thorn in Arsenal's side for years - or rather Hughes has. Tonight's result could mean we're in it for the long haul. It'll be interesting to find out how this side reacts to the 'pressure' of possibly nabbing a 5-point lead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 11, 2008, 05:00:56 PM
With the oportunity for a 5 point lead available, it is important to go for it with a 4-4-2. An ealy goal will settle us down and then take it from there. Lehmann, Sagna, Hoyte, Gallas, Clichy, Diaby, Flamini,Cesc, Hleb, Eduadro & Adeybayor. I would rather see Hoyte in the middly than gilberto at this stage. He has pace and mccarthy & santa cruz could be a handful. Lets hope bently doesn't come back with a point to prove . I predict 3-1 (hopefully!!!) . 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2008, 08:18:15 PM
Sendhimhome (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1774840)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 11, 2008, 10:03:16 PM
Well they passed that test but never looked comfortable at 1-0. Helb was excellent, the maligned Gilberto was good and Cesc looked like he was returing to form and Flamini was again the heart beat of this team. Adebayor was terrible all night but took his goal brilliantly...no Toure, no RVP, no Rosicky.....looking good......








Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 11, 2008, 10:06:46 PM
They have played the best football of any club in the Premier League this year
They deserve to win it,I hope they do
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on February 11, 2008, 10:08:06 PM
They deserve to win it,I hope they do

Over Liverpool?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 11, 2008, 10:10:25 PM
They deserve to win it,I hope they do

Over Liverpool?



Ziggy there is more chance of Tyrone winning the Liam McCarthy than Liverpool winning the Premier League this year.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2008, 10:42:38 PM
Passed the first test is correct. Senderos was fine again and he'll feel a little hard done by when Toure returns. Hleb has been effective all year and the Flamini-Fabregas-Hleb partnership is blossoming brilliantly. Adebayor had an off-night but was mighty determined to keep his run going and forged three chances towards the end. Eduardo is also increasing in confidence and will also feel a little cheesed off if RVP automatically replaces him. The speed and strength at which Clichy, Sagna and Gallas fire accurate passes at each other is frightening.

Lehmann's hop, skip and jump before the kick-outs is sublime. Nutter.

Onto Utd in the cup. Because of the way Arsenal's title challenge is panning out, it's away down in the list of priorities. Does a victory for either offer a psychological advantage?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 10:45:12 PM
arsenal should send out their youth team for united game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on February 12, 2008, 09:48:59 AM
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Lehmann's hop, skip and jump before the kick-outs is sublime

Is Almunia injured?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on February 12, 2008, 09:55:34 AM
Enjoyed that game last night and thought Blackburn played really well. Arsenal are a joy to watch when they move the ball at pace. League is over
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2008, 10:59:35 AM
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Lehmann's hop, skip and jump before the kick-outs is sublime

Is Almunia injured?

Yes, some kind of thumb injury. Lehmann's performed well since.

As for the league being over - Arsenal have yet to visit Old Trafford and Stamford. All it takes is one black patch and this week will seem a million years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 12, 2008, 11:34:59 AM
[Yes, some kind of thumb injury. Lehmann's performed well since.

As for the league being over - Arsenal have yet to visit Old Trafford and Stamford. All it takes is one black patch and this week will seem a million years ago.

Your right there, but the one thing it does,is it creates a little breathing space. 
With regard to the cup game at the weekend. It is a tough one to call especially with  the champions league game on wednesday night. If we field a weakened team then any psycological advantage utd would gain is out the window. I think we will go with a full team though. Although i fancy man utd to take it. As long as we get a least a point in the league game there i will settle for that!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2008, 11:54:22 AM
I wonder if Utd will also have one eye on the trip to Lyon. I'd like to see:

Lehmann
Eboue - Hoyte - Toure - Traore
Walcott - Song - Gilberto - Hleb (If Diaby or Denilson fit - start them)
Eduardo - Bendtner

Give rests to: Sagna, Gallas, Clichy, Fabregas, Flamini and Adebayor (or on bench).

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2008, 11:58:32 AM
Adebayor - Henry is keeping me focused on the title


By Richard Clarke

Emmanuel Adebayor has revealed that Thierry Henry is helping to keep him motivated for the title run-in.

The Togolese striker scored his 19th Premier League goal of the campaign on Monday night as Arsenal beat Blackburn 2-0 to go five points clear at the top of the table.

It is a far cry from the pre-season predictions of doom and gloom; much of which was based on Henry’s departure to Barcelona. Since then Adebayor has filled his shooting boots with aplomb but the Frenchman is still having an influence.

"Thierry to me is like a big brother,” said the 23-year-old in the tunnel less than an hour after the match. “He already sent a message to me after the game to congratulate me.

"He talked to me a lot during the summer when he was leaving, he calls me and we have a lot of chats. He believes in my strength and my quality so I just want to thank him a lot because he helped me out a lot.

"A lot of times he sends me messages saying that I may have scored 15 or 16 but I know you can score more if you concentrate in every game.

"That is what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to listen to the advice and at the moment it's working so I'm very happy. I think Thierry keeps in touch with a lot of people [here]."

Monday’s victory put a little daylight between Arsenal and the chasing pair. However, if anything, it only adds to the pressure on Wenger’s side. As the questions to Adebayor demonstrated.

"I don't know about it being our title to lose,” he replied to one. “The feeling I have is that we have a good squad, we want to win it and we can achieve it. So we just have to keep doing our job and enjoy ourselves on the pitch.

"Five points [clear] is very good and we are very happy. Like we always said, the title is really something this year but we know Man United can always come from behind somewhere. We just want to keep our focus and keep what we are doing at the moment.

"We are enjoying ourselves on the pitch,” he concluded. “We can talk about whether we win the title at the end of the season."

Arse.com
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on February 12, 2008, 07:50:06 PM
Enjoyed that game last night and thought Blackburn played really well. Arsenal are a joy to watch when they move the ball at pace. League is over

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 12, 2008, 08:44:53 PM
League is not over, but the Goons have one hand on it me think. I think that away cruise in Goodison a few weeks back was the game that Arsenal dispelled a few myths (Including my own) that people may have had regarding them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 12, 2008, 09:25:16 PM
They weren't myths, they were serious problems arsenal used to have against teams like everton Bolton Blackburn etc. They seem to have conquered those issues.

I still think there's a bit more drama left this season.

'There's many a slip twixt cup and lip'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on February 12, 2008, 09:48:59 PM
Naw the league isn't over yet. As they say there's the games at OT and Stamford. But it does mean if Arsenal get any sort of a result in these games then it's hard to look past them. Cheski and MU will know if they slip up in those games then it's going to make things very hard for them!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2008, 08:31:03 AM
Anyone notice that the Gooners on this thread are the ones not counting chickens now the lot of you clear of to....

The Biggest Bestest player in the whole wide world aka The Man U thread....or This is going to be our year thread aka the The Dellusionists Thread aka the Liverpool Thread or the 1 post a month thread aka The Chelsea Thread...... :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 13, 2008, 09:14:32 AM
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This is going to be our year thread aka the The Dellusionists Thread aka the Liverpool Thread

We'll be right some time Dinny. And then we will be insufferable :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2008, 09:52:07 AM
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And then we will be insufferable

There's irony there somewhere  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 13, 2008, 09:56:21 AM
I thought you might pick up on that :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 14, 2008, 07:08:56 PM
List of injuries:

Johan Djourou (groin)
Robin van Persie (thigh)
Abou Diaby (calf)
Manuel Almunia (sick)
Denilson (hamstring)
Tomas Rosicky (hamstring)
Walcott (thigh)
Clichy (hamstring)
Sagna (personal reasons)
Senderos (knee/thigh).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2008, 10:50:28 AM
Adebayor spake:

http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/12/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy-part-2/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 16, 2008, 12:07:09 AM
List of injuries:

Johan Djourou (groin)
Robin van Persie (thigh)
Abou Diaby (calf)
Manuel Almunia (sick)
Denilson (hamstring)
Tomas Rosicky (hamstring)
Walcott (thigh)
Clichy (hamstring)
Sagna (personal reasons)
Senderos (knee/thigh).

If it was the league, I doubt they'd be as many injuries. Is Wenger holding back on the FA Cup to preserve his side for the league. Maybe a defeat at OT of a first choice Goons side, would be a pyschological blow and Wenger is aware of that, and wants to avoid that scenario.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 16, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
Lucky tonight that ManuU din't win 10-0 such was the gulf in class.  With any luck yis will only have to play them once more this season!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2008, 10:17:58 PM
Class had nothing to do with it. Fergie knows it. What Utd had was spirit, hunger and the pain of last week's defeat. Arsenal were simply too concerned with the visit of the European Champions on Wednesday. I say fair play to Utd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 16, 2008, 10:23:13 PM
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Class had nothing to do with it. Fergie knows it.

If you didn't see a gulf in class on the pitch tonite then buy a new telly.  Both teams had an equal eye on Europe but United outclassed Arsenal in every dept, which was why Arsenal players resorted to kicking and did well to finish with 10 men.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 16, 2008, 10:32:19 PM
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Class had nothing to do with it. Fergie knows it.

If you didn't see a gulf in class on the pitch tonite then buy a new telly.  Both teams had an equal eye on Europe but United outclassed Arsenal in every dept, which was why Arsenal players resorted to kicking and did well to finish with 10 men.

I never knew Arsenal had 10 men until I read that! Is there an irony there on the day JT makes his comeback from an Eboue (I think) challange that probably should've merited a red card!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2008, 11:12:24 PM
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If you didn't see a gulf in class on the pitch tonite then buy a new telly.  Both teams had an equal eye on Europe but United outclassed Arsenal in every dept, which was why Arsenal players resorted to kicking and did well to finish with 10 men.

Such rubbish, nothing to do with class Arsenal were simply beaten by the better side on the night who were hurting from last week. For God's sake Fletcher was the best player on the pitch  ::)

One less game for Arsenal to worry about, as NT mentions if that was a league game Arsenal would have played more than four first choice players. Fergie knows that Wenger didn't giive a damn about the FA Cup this year and his own team selection reflected that as did the Arsenal players attitude which was probably the most disappointing thing about that game.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 16, 2008, 11:14:43 PM
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Class had nothing to do with it. Fergie knows it.

If you didn't see a gulf in class on the pitch tonite then buy a new telly.  Both teams had an equal eye on Europe but United outclassed Arsenal in every dept, which was why Arsenal players resorted to kicking and did well to finish with 10 men.

Just what I was wondering, if they didn't give a shite about the game why did they go around kicking? 
Nani was lucky to walk of the field. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2008, 08:42:18 AM
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Nani was lucky to walk of the field.

Yea he could have died  ::)

Fair dues to Gallas for not going down when hit by Nani's pathetic head butt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 09:25:11 AM
Fair dues to Fergie for criticising Nani.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
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Nani was lucky to walk of the field.

Yea he could have died  ::)

Fair dues to Gallas for not going down when hit by Nani's pathetic head butt.

You'd hardly die from kn**ker cowards kicking at you when you're back is turned.
I wish he had to go down with the "head butt" - the other lanky fella from Arsenal going down in the box looking a penalty was  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 17, 2008, 11:52:10 AM
i really hope arsenes plan works!! We can now concentrate on the league & champions league. In truth we don't have the depth in squad to chalenge on 3 fronts and could have ended up with nothing. I know that can still happen but, ig by going out of the cup we have a better chance of winning the league so be it. United although not at full strength either were by far the hungrier team, we were totally out played so there can be no quible about the result. With regard to nani though. If someone is showboating like that players are going to get pissed off and then try to foul him. Somehow I dont think the league game in old trafford will have any room for that type of shit, although the tackles will no doubt be flying but for different reasons!.

Roll on wednesday night!! my prediction arsenal by 2 but lets hope we can keep the clean sheet.     
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 12:56:40 PM
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With regard to nani though. If someone is showboating like that players are going to get pissed off and then try to foul him.

Oh that's alright then  ::)

If someone shows a bit of skill to keep the ball they're "showboating"?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2008, 01:01:45 PM
Anyone can do it in their own half running away from the opposition goal, I wouldn't call it showboating I'd call it stupid...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 01:15:56 PM
I see Milan drew 0-0 yesterday.

MILAN:
 Kalac; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Emerson, Ambrosini, Serginho; Kakà; Inzaghi

from babelfish

the Milan to the Tardini

The rossoneri of Ancelotti do not go al.di.là.dello 0-0 to the Tardini against a careful and very disposed Parma in field. Presence number 1000 for capitan Maldini. Milan that momentarily catches up the Fiorentina to the quarter place in classifies In the first minuteren of game the Parma us test above all with shooting from the long distance.

 To 12' with Pisanu and the 4 minuteren after with Reginaldo but, both tried ones, they finish to you high over the crosspiece. The Milan answers to the 18' with a free kick struck from Kakà of right, the ball ends but on the bottom. Always number 22 rossonero little after attracts on himself the attention when ago to leave left a powerful one that finishes to the right of Bucci. The Parma, that it grazes the goal in more than an occasion in the ten final minuteren, demonstrates however not to have no reverenziale fear in the comparisons of the adversaries indeed, interprets R-al.meglio the challenge, with grinta and conviction. In the Ancelotti resumption it inserts Pirlo and Gilardino in place of Gattuso and Serginho for giving pushed more to the centrocampo. While Dida comes removed from the park bench in stretcher for one strange and unexpected pain to the back.

The entered neo Pirlo is made endured to notice with a violent punishment from defiladed position, Bucci rejects with the fists blanketing the first occasion of the Milan in this according to time. Us test also Inzaghi but its turn of left goes high over the crosspiece. Of Carl it tries to give oxygen to the square and recalls Reginaldo and Lucarelli for Gasbarroni and Budan. And the hoped effect arrives immediately. Gasbarroni constructs the action and supplies the ball of the possible one assist for Budan. The Croatian avoids the game outside and forces Kalac to the parade save-result. Kakà puts in extension its class on a traversone from the right of Cafu: stop of chest and right to the flight that forces Bucci to the extraordinary ones. The 0-0 is not unblocked but the rossonero people have however a valid reason in order to sing and make themselves to feel: in field official contest enters in fact the stainless Paul Maldini to its 1000a. Maldini, than I reach it will complete 40 years, it goes to replace Jankulovski. The rossoneri ones still believe us and to 28' on free kick the Pirlo usual it makes to remain of Bucci chalk, the ball exits of least.

 It is not ended I besiege of the devils. Before (29) Inzaghi test, rejects the opposing porter to us, then Gilardino, and this time is Zenoni that avoids to the Parma the net of the disadvantage. They do not let go the men of Ancelotti, to prescribed time practically expired Emerson it sends the balls to stars, or to the ortiche, from the tribune Braida and Galliani they chew bitter. Also Budan makes to shake the public gialloblu in contest closing. It tries the conclusion from the right and succeeds nearly in the impossible enterprise of beffare Kalac on its pole. It finishes therefore 0-0, for the Parma a half full glass, for the Milan a glass empty means inasmuch as it hardly scrapes together 2 points in two contests and, above all, does not go to sign for before the time after 14 consecutive contests.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 01:19:03 PM
Anyone can do it in their own half running away from the opposition goal, I wouldn't call it showboating I'd call it stupid...

Using his head to keep on to the ball that was slow coming down and someone on his heels, I'd call it skill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
Anyone else agree the babelfish translations makes more sense than the dimwit above!! (where's the rolling laughter sign)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 03:41:08 PM
Anyone else agree the babelfish translations makes more sense than the dimwit above!! (where's the rolling laughter sign)

Don't be taking your bad form out on me shane, it's not my fault Utd beat you 4-0.
I thought you didn't care anyway?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 05:43:14 PM
Unlucky lad. If tears of laughter at your attempts to pretend you know a little about what you're talking about I hope I'm in bad form for a few years!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on February 17, 2008, 06:05:24 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jaysus, ONeill, that's more emoticons than all of your previous ones, added together.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 06:11:32 PM
They were well earned though.

Back to the thread - anyone on here going over to the Villa game on March 1st by any chance?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on February 17, 2008, 06:12:55 PM
You are expected to be in Casement that night. Offaly.

Carry on.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 06:15:48 PM
I wonder will they be showing it in London.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 06:44:12 PM
The link between this loss, the CC loss to Spuds and the beating by Sevilla all have is that Hoyte and Traore were starters on the back line in each match.

Now, I hope AW has taken note.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 18, 2008, 02:17:21 PM
Oh that's alright then  ::)
If someone shows a bit of skill to keep the ball they're "showboating"?

Do you think nani would have tried that if man utd were not 3-0 up at the time? So yes i would call it show boating. I am not disputing the fact that he was displaying skill. But in a tight game he would not have attempted it, because alex ferguson would have given him the bollocking of a lifetime and maybe even kicked a boot at him!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on February 18, 2008, 05:10:47 PM
Amazed at the response to Nani's keeping the ball up. Just shows how pathetic soccer fans can be (and I know I am one, sort of). People pay hundreds to see these games. A young Portuguese player dares to keep the ball up and away from an Arsenal player on his back, and they are all criticising him, saying he deserves a kicking. If he can do it fair play to him, Arsenal's respons was a disgrace.
Henry done many similar things in his time. Look at that penalty fluff with Pires, arrogance and almost humiliating the opponent thinking he was so far above their levels. But who cares, if you're good enough go out and entertain, for f**ks sake it's not against the rules. Henry was rightly lauded as a genius for the things he tried, love to see players doing something new or interesting.
Title: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: T Fearon on February 18, 2008, 06:48:58 PM
After Man City fans poignantly respected the one minute's silence at Old Trafford last week, Arsenal fans produced 90 minutes of silence at the same venue last Saturday ;D
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: doire na raithe on February 18, 2008, 06:56:46 PM
I'm sure some interpetation of one of the rules will enable me to report this thread.
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: doire na raithe on February 18, 2008, 07:00:55 PM
I refer you to rule 5. Creating facetious or duplicate topics. This clearly could have been posted on any of the recent threads such as: the Manchester United thread, offical gooners thread or on the neutral 'FA Cup on the BBC' thread. I will be bringing this total disrespect for the GAA community on this board to the attention of the mods and I hope you are dealt with accordingly.
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 07:02:54 PM
Is the truth in breach of a rule?
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: doire na raithe on February 18, 2008, 07:08:00 PM
The meaning of 'facetious': lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous remark.

I believe it is also strongly in breach of the 'duplicating topics' part of the rule.
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 07:10:05 PM
There is nothing facetious in the original post. I think even the most ardent Arsenil fan would have to admit that they did observe a 90 minute silence at the weekend.
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: Square Ball on February 18, 2008, 07:11:06 PM
to the gallows with him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 19, 2008, 03:43:58 PM
from arsenal.com

Arsène Wenger has six players back to full fitness for the visit of Milan on Wednesday.

Gael Clichy, Mathieu Flamini and Emmanuel Adebayor were on duty at Manchester United last Saturday despite being troubled by hamstring injuries. All those will be ready to play against the Champions League holders at Emirates Stadium.

Bacary Sagna is available while Denilson and Theo Walcott have been added to the squad. However Manuel Almunia is still recovering from a virus so Jens Lehmann will keep his place.

"Bacary Sagna is back so are Gael Clichy, Mathieu Flamini and Emmanuel Adebayor," said Wenger at his pre-match press conference on Tuesday.

"Manuel Almunia is not completely ready to play. But he is getting there and is very close now. Jens Lehmann will start.

"Denilson is back in the squad and Theo Walcott is in too. But Johan Djourou, Robin van Persie, Abou Diaby, Tomas Rosicky are all still out."

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2008, 10:09:35 PM
ARSENAL goalkeeper Manuel Almunia’s house is being HAUNTED by the ghost of a monk.

The star’s wife spotted the ghoul at their swish pad on the site of an old asylum.

Spaniard Almunia, 30, has also heard chains rattling and had stereos turning on at full volume on their own. He is so spooked boss Arsene Wenger has given him permission to go home for lunch to avoid leaving wife Ana alone at the house in Abbots Langley, Herts.

Terrified Almunia said yesterday: “My house is small but there is a lot of history to it and it seems there are ghosts.

“It’s in a place where there was a psychiatric hospital. They sent mental patients there and people who were sick after the Second World War.

“When we first moved in we heard a lot of strange noises like chains being dragged around.

“Then when we were sleeping the stereo came on at full volume. Some very strange things were happening.

“One night, we were sleeping and my wife suddenly woke me up with a shout. She said there was this monk-like figure with a candle in his hand. She was in bed, next to me. I didn’t see him but I was s*** scared.

“We’ve spoken to neighbours, and they said this was normal.

“Perhaps it’s black magic, I don’t know. But some weird things were definitely going on.”

Locals believe the mental institution Almunia’s home was built on was The Leavesden Hospital, which was shut in the 1990s.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article817076.ece


Is this why he has been ill?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on February 19, 2008, 10:19:20 PM
What is it with Arsenal goalkeepers? Come to think of it, goalkeepers in general?
They are all a bit mad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2008, 10:29:41 PM
I wonder if Mad Jens has been at his work?
Title: Adebayor up thr Kyber
Post by: An Fear Rua on February 19, 2008, 11:03:03 PM
http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/03/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy/ (http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/03/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy/)

http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/12/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy-part-2/ (http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/12/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy-part-2/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 21, 2008, 12:19:19 PM
toure out for 3 or 4 weeks according to arsenal.com.

Thought we would have snatched a goal last night. WE had them under some serious pressure late on. The good thing though is that we didn't conceed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 21, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
The second half was all arsenal - how we didnt make better chances is beyond me. In the last 15 minutes we had something like 6 shots straight at the milan keeper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 21, 2008, 05:07:24 PM
Great to see the Goons struggle against OAP's like Maldini and I fancy Milan to finish the job emphatically at the San Siro in a fortnight's time, just as they did last year against Man Ure, leaving Chelsea and Spurs as London's only hope of European Honours this season ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 03:39:54 PM
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Holy feck  :o

Haven't seen the tackle yet, teletext states a horror tackle while radio 5 says not as bad as it looks! Good luck to the lad regardless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on February 23, 2008, 04:04:06 PM
Jaysus, that's rough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 04:05:34 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/arsenal/video/x4h4u3_arsenal-blessure-horrible-eduardo_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/search/arsenal/video/x4h4u3_arsenal-blessure-horrible-eduardo_sport)


The tackle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 04:12:25 PM
That was sickening and Taylor should get a 6 month ban minimum.

Commenting on the game after that would not feel right. It will be a long road to recovery, very sad day.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 23, 2008, 04:29:59 PM
Eduardo will miss Euro 2008 with Croatia.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 23, 2008, 04:36:02 PM
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That was sickening and Taylor should get a 6 month ban minimum.
I thought it was simply mistimed, I don't think there was any intent there.


Hopefully the lad will make a full recovery and get back on the pitch as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
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I thought it was simply mistimed, I don't think there was any intent there.

The only person who knows whether there was intent is Taylor, the fact that he got a straight red is obvious the ref thought there was intent. It was a stupid reckless tackle  and Taylor deserves a lot more than a poxy 3 game ban..

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 23, 2008, 04:52:40 PM
Terrible injury. I hope he recovers from it. He is young enough to. I had not seen it during the game. But the stills would make you want to puke. It reminds me of that break that larrson suffered.

It definately efffected the first half performance. Second half we should have closed out the game, Gallas was rightly disgusted at full time, however he acted like a school boy and went huffing. As captain he should be rallying the team together.
Injury list is mounting, only 2 fit strikers, although maybe with walcott in the goals today, he will get some confidence and may fill in up front.
2 points droped lets hope king kev can do us a favour!!- what is it he says himself" i would love it if we beat them" (well i would too kev!!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 23, 2008, 04:55:19 PM
[The only person who knows whether there was intent is Taylor, the fact that he got a straight red is obvious the ref thought there was intent. It was a stupid reckless tackle  and Taylor deserves a lot more than a poxy 3 game ban..



i wonder willl there be legal action, i remember after the tackle on diaby v sunderland a couple of years ago wenger hinting at it. IMO this was worse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 04:58:52 PM
Personally- and casting any bias aside- I don't think it was the worst tackle I've ever seen. He wasn't really over the top nor high, and it looked simply very badly timed. Probably deserved a red card, but don't agree there was a lot of intent.

Tacke of legal action is stupid. Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 23, 2008, 05:00:39 PM
Poor fella, that just brought back memories of Big Peter throwing up when Busst got his leg done.


Points dont really matter after that, but It would be great if United get beaten.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on February 23, 2008, 05:07:35 PM
Personally- and casting any bias aside- I don't think it was the worst tackle I've ever seen. He wasn't really over the top nor high, and it looked simply very badly timed. Probably deserved a red card, but don't agree there was a lot of intent.

Tacke of legal action is stupid. Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

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I'm sure he didn't mean to break his leg, but that was a dangerous, high tackle. Even if he had got there in time, he would have went over the top of the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 05:10:08 PM
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Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

What a stupid comment, Eduardo has a broken leg probaly career threatening and you trivialise it with that comment. Yet you're the same clown you cliamed Eboue tried to do Terry and should have been banned. You should really take your hypocritical comments to the one post a month thread, I think every Gooner here is getting tired off your anti-Arsenal paranoid rantings and ravings......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 23, 2008, 05:21:43 PM
Personally- and casting any bias aside- I don't think it was the worst tackle I've ever seen. He wasn't really over the top nor high, and it looked simply very badly timed. Probably deserved a red card, but don't agree there was a lot of intent.

Tacke of legal action is stupid. Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

As a chelsea fan you have a short memory remember  paul elliot (chelsea) taking dean saunders (liverpool)  to court? I know he lost the case but there is precedent for legal action.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on February 23, 2008, 06:18:10 PM

Should the punishment for a tackle be dependent on the outcome of that tackle?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tintin25 on February 23, 2008, 06:22:07 PM
It was a bad tackle but I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. It's unfortunate for Eduardo but Wengers comments after the game were ridiculous....saying Taylor should never play footy again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 23, 2008, 06:23:55 PM
It was a bad tackle but I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. It's unfortunate for Eduardo but Wengers comments after the game were ridiculous....saying Taylor should never play footy again.
Typical Wenger though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on February 23, 2008, 06:32:52 PM

Should the punishment for a tackle be dependent on the outcome of that tackle?

I don't think so. Bad tackles happen - there's no getting around it, and its a risk everyone who steps onto a football field takes. Taylor caught Eduardo's standing leg, which is always going to come out much worse. However, a high, studs-showing tackle should be harshly punished, no matter what the outcome.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 06:58:11 PM
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It was a bad tackle but I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. It's unfortunate for Eduardo but Wengers comments after the game were ridiculous....saying Taylor should never play footy again.

So Wenger's not allowed be emotive after a game that saw him lose a player to an horrendous disgraceful tackle and then saw the referee gift Birmingham a point with a penalty that never was, I swear people on this board have never played sport at any level.....



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on February 23, 2008, 07:02:50 PM
Horrible injury and wish Eduardo all the best

What was Gallas doing over kicking the 4th officials box while the peno was being taken ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2008, 07:13:37 PM
He definitely didn't set out to break his leg and, as it was so early in the game, you can only accept it was badly timed and reckless. I'm sure Taylor is distraught right now. Feel very sorry for Eduardo. The first year of his big move, and he was becoming a mainstay. I'd imagine RVP is being fast-tracked.

Terrible result. Terrible concentration. Gallas is a very passionate player and would have been incensed at the way Arsenal didn't kill them off. Every game is a cup final now, starting with Villa on Saturday.

Worried though. Utd need to drop a few soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tintin25 on February 23, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
Quote
It was a bad tackle but I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. It's unfortunate for Eduardo but Wengers comments after the game were ridiculous....saying Taylor should never play footy again.

So Wenger's not allowed be emotive after a game that saw him lose a player to an horrendous disgraceful tackle and then saw the referee gift Birmingham a point with a penalty that never was, I swear people on this board have never played sport at any level.....





Of course he's allowed to be emotive but his comments were still OTT. As O'Neill said....you can only accept it was badly timed and reckless whilst Taylor prob feels like crap. I wish Eduardo a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2008, 07:35:43 PM
Some horrific tales circulating regarding his condition, to the extent of amputation due to blood supply problem - I'm hope that's just the internet Chinese whispers. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
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Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

What a stupid comment, Eduardo has a broken leg probaly career threatening and you trivialise it with that comment. Yet you're the same clown you cliamed Eboue tried to do Terry and should have been banned. You should really take your hypocritical comments to the one post a month thread, I think every Gooner here is getting tired off your anti-Arsenal paranoid rantings and ravings......

I am far from trivialising the matter Dinny. It's a life serious incident for the fella no doubt. I appreciate you are emotive tonight, as you are peeved with the result, and more importantly with the incident. I still agrere that Eboue should've been banned, as should and will Taylor. However my reposte was to the call for legal action. I never called for legal action for ANY incident, but agree it should be governed within the laws of the game 99.9% of the time. My reply, maybe was OTT re Nani, but it was to show how OTT the original comment was in my opinion.
As I said I know your pissed, but the name calling is not your style I'd of thought......


Idanach "As a chelsea fan you have a short memory remember  paul elliot (chelsea) taking dean saunders (liverpool)  to court? I know he lost the case but there is precedent for legal action. "

I am not sure what Paul Elliott does with his life has anything to do with me? I never told him to sue Saunders!

O'Neill fair play for throwing some reason on the debate, as I am unsure I could do in the circumstances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2008, 09:55:46 PM
Lads lets keep it in perspective,youse are losing the run of yourselves,of course it was a horrible injury but nobody died,he will receive the best medical treatment. It looked a similar one to cisses against blackburn a few years ago and he made a full recovery
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 23, 2008, 10:25:53 PM
He definitely didn't set out to break his leg and, as it was so early in the game, you can only accept it was badly timed and reckless. I'm sure Taylor is distraught right now. Feel very sorry for Eduardo. The first year of his big move, and he was becoming a mainstay. I'd imagine RVP is being fast-tracked.

Terrible result. Terrible concentration. Gallas is a very passionate player and would have been incensed at the way Arsenal didn't kill them off. Every game is a cup final now, starting with Villa on Saturday.

Worried though. Utd need to drop a few soon.

Don't forget Chelsea.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 24, 2008, 04:22:39 AM
Sensible:
Arsene Wenger has retracted his statement concerning Taylor and if he should play football citing that it was an emotional afternoon for all involved.


Ricidulous:
Former Birmingham manager Steve Bruce on the tackle:

"He would never, ever do anything malicious. He has mis-timed the tackle, and I've seen it. Some would say it is not even a yellow card."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on February 24, 2008, 10:30:18 AM

There's a very strong argument that only for the unfortunate damage edwardo suffered, taylor would not have been sent off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 24, 2008, 11:35:05 AM

There's a very strong argument that only for the unfortunate damage edwardo suffered, taylor would not have been sent off

Nonsense. The ref flashed the red card immediately without going anywhere near Eduardo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on February 24, 2008, 12:59:35 PM
The actual tackle wasn't the worst ive seen...it was just bad luck that Eduardo got so badly injured  :-\

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on February 24, 2008, 02:00:23 PM
horrific injury, if he makes a full  recovery it'll be a miracle!read somewhere that the ambulance paramedic said the ankle and foot was hangin on by skin..sickening
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 24, 2008, 02:06:43 PM
First of all I'd like to wish Eduardo all the best with his recovery, I actually think he's a very good player and once he had settled in the Prem I think he would have been a star (and I'm a Chelsea fan).

It was by no means the worst tackle I've ever seen (anyone remember Gerrard's two footed, studs up tackle against Everton a few years ago??) but obviously the outcome was horrific and on another day Eduardo's shinpad would have taken most of the impact and a free kick and yellow card might have ensued.  However I have noticed recently the one or two footed studs up lunge creeping into the game and the FA should act to nip it in the bud.

As for Eduardo, I hope he can come back...Cisse managed to come back from a similar injury and Henrik Larsson came back from a similar injury to be an even better player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 25, 2008, 09:58:52 AM
from arsenal.com

Eduardo has given his account of the terrible events at Birmingham City on Saturday.

The Croatian, 25 on Monday, broke his leg following a challenge from Blues defender Martin Taylor in the third minute of the game at St Andrews. He was taken to hospital and underwent surgery that night. The striker has since returned to a London-based hospital for further treatment.

Speaking for the first time after the incident, the summer signing  from Dinamo Zagreb ruled himself out of the rest of the season and Euro 2008 in the summer. However, he added that he is 'determined to overcome this injury'.

“I don't remember the incident very well and it is not something that I want to see again on television or in the newspapers," said Eduardo.

"All I remember is that when I fell, I looked down at my foot and it had turned the other way. The rest is just a blank. It was an unfortunate situation but these things can happen in football.
 
“I am unsure at the moment of the extent of the injury and how long I will be out of action for but I know that I won't be able to play for Arsenal for the rest of the season or be ready in time for the Euros this summer.

"But I'm not worried about that. My concentration and determination is on making as quick a recovery as possible. I am determined to overcome this injury.
 
“I would like to thank the medical team here at Arsenal for their efforts as well as the staff at Selly Oak Hospital who carried out the operation on Saturday night. Everyone there made me feel as comfortable as possible. 

"I would also like to say how touched I am by the many messages of support I have received and to be surrounded by my loved ones at this time.”


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 25, 2008, 10:03:29 AM
Personally- and casting any bias aside- I don't think it was the worst tackle I've ever seen. He wasn't really over the top nor high, and it looked simply very badly timed. Probably deserved a red card, but don't agree there was a lot of intent.

Tacke of legal action is stupid. Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

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I'm sure he didn't mean to break his leg, but that was a dangerous, high tackle. Even if he had got there in time, he would have went over the top of the ball.

As someone said, only Taylor will know whether he meant to do damage or not, but regardless, as a professional footballer, you KNOW the risks of going in late, high and with studs showing. It was a disgraceful tackle in my opinion. Professionals know that tackles like that are potential career enders, so at the very least Taylor was reckless.

The images remind me of David Busst's career ender (accidental of course) against United. I hope Eduardo doesn't suffer the same fate.

As for Taylor, I would love to ban him for the length of time that Eduardo is out, but at least until the end of this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 25, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
Just heard on the radio.Eduardo will hopefully be back in 9 months. He fractured his left fibula and dislocated his ankle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2008, 05:24:46 PM
Just heard on the radio.Eduardo will hopefully be back in 9 months. He fractured his left fibula and dislocated his ankle.

Arsenal are saying a year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: thebandit on February 25, 2008, 05:28:00 PM
I had much the same injury, without severing the foot!

Haven't been able to string 3 training sessions in a row together since....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 29, 2008, 02:02:09 PM
Just at the right time too! Its a pity he won't be fit for milan though

Robin van Persie came back to full training on Friday.

The Dutchman will not figure against Aston Villa or Milan but his return is welcome news after the loss of Eduardo for the season with a broken leg.

Van Persie has played only three games since late October because of injury. He has been out since early January because of a thigh problem. He was one of two players back on the field at the training ground on Friday.

"The news is good," said Wenger. "It is Robin's first time back in full training. He looks quite good but I won't rush him back because I have made that mistake before.

"The other one who is back is Johan Djourou but he is not in the squad tomorrow."
 
The only player returning for the game against Villa on Saturday is Abou Diaby. The full list of absentees is: Alex Song (knee), Tomas Rosicky (hamstring), Kolo Toure (calf), Johan Djourou (groin), Van Persie (thigh) and Emmanuel Eboue (suspended).


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
milan 0 arsenal 0
we need a goal for all the posession we have!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 08:36:20 PM
b**tard ref has been bribed. See the Hleb incident?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 04, 2008, 08:39:41 PM
Joke. A free from the edge at the very least. How the hell do Italians get away with this shit. They get frees for next to nothing.
Very impressed by Arsenal, but they need a goal soon or them pricks will steal something. Fabregas deserves one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 08:40:01 PM
Adebayor shot (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841156)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 08:41:36 PM
Fabregas hits bar (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841168)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
Joke. A free from the edge at the very least. How the hell do Italians get away with this shit. They get frees for next to nothing.
Very impressed by Arsenal, but they need a goal soon or them pricks will steal something. Fabregas deserves one.
definate free, the ref was in a good position to give it. i am afraid though that we really needed a goal with that much position. earlier in the season that would have been straight in the top corner from cesc. luck just not with us in first half
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 08:46:58 PM
I can see Walcott's rawness causing bother. Milan seemed to be tiring as the half progressed. Worryingly though Kaka is being given more room than last time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 08:51:22 PM
i grow to dislike senderos more and more each day
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on March 04, 2008, 08:54:16 PM
Eboue shooda dun betta.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 09:03:30 PM
i grow to dislike senderos more and more each day

Was talking to a fella who told me a true story. A group of Limerick men were at the Emirates and after the game they were in the Arsenal shop inside the ground. He says Wenger walks in flanked by a few minders to do some kind of signing. The Shannonsiders approached him and shared pleasantries - 'you're a great manager Mr Wenger', 'we really admire you Mr Wenger' etc. Before they left one of them asked if he would answer one more question. Wenger replied 'of course' in his best French accent. Yer man asks ' Why the fcuk, Mr Wenger, do you keep on playin thon cnut Senderos?' He says Arsene and his minders just smirked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 09:12:48 PM
walcott about to be introduced. will he be the hero?????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 09:23:54 PM
we need another change. hleb to the wing and bring on van persie. if it goes to extra time we will lose
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 09:27:04 PM
goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooallll!!!!!
get in there cesc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 09:29:30 PM
Yahoooooooooooooooo

The Joy of Cesc.

Houl out lads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 04, 2008, 09:30:16 PM
Great Goal,Delighted for the gunners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 04, 2008, 09:32:05 PM
100% deserved, especially Fabregas. Stood up and outshone Kaka. Wish Ronaldo would do it.
Hope that's the end of that Milan team, couldn't stand the sight of Inzaghi & Co for much longer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on March 04, 2008, 09:34:36 PM
2-0
Sin Sin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 09:44:39 PM
great result. lets hope our season can kick on from here. Totally out played milan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 09:49:37 PM
This is the result Arsenal needed. Wenger's teams feed off confidence moreso than any other of the top sides who can grind out results.
First English side to defeat Milan in Italy?

Would swop it for the Carling Cup though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: superblues on March 04, 2008, 09:51:56 PM
great result for the gooners glad to see it don t like that milan  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 04, 2008, 09:55:09 PM
Yip Arsenal the first English side to win away to Milan. More than deserved, Arsenal looked to be happy to shake off the pressure of th premiership tonight, and more than deserved their win. Fibreglass especially looked back to his pre-Christmas form, and a fine Walcott cameo.

A few things noted;

* Was there no segregation? Kept panning to shots of pockets of Goons celebrating among glum Milanese.
* Had the camera man a fetish with the AC crerst. He spent the last 5 minutes shooting close ups of Milan scarves, hats. Everything!
* The draw will be VERY interesting. It looks (Fingers crossed for Chelsea) that there will 4 Eng sides, and 3 from Spain. Everyone hoping to get Porto or Schalke then!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 04, 2008, 10:15:32 PM
Great result for Arsenal tonight and totally deserved.

Woudn't like to be the new milan coach next season, 3/4 of the team will have to go

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 05, 2008, 09:41:14 AM
I have to grudingly applaud the Goons, recovering from a potentially shattering 5-1 defeat by North London's most glamorous club only a few weeks ago, shows admirable mental strength.

However allowances must be made for the fact that the average age of Milan's defence is 153, and when Martin O'Neill and Alex Mc Leish can induce average teams to take points of the Goons in the league, I fear that last night may be the highlight of the season for the Goons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2008, 09:48:10 AM
Yes, the same Martin O'Neill whose side went 4-1 up at Shite Hart Lane on Spuds' night of celebration? The same MArtin O'Neill whose side beat Spuds 2-1 at home? The same McLeish whose side beat Spuds 4-1 at the weekend? The same Birmingham who won 3-2 at Spuds?

Keep it coming Fatman.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 05, 2008, 09:51:06 AM
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It looks (Fingers crossed for Chelsea) that there will 4 Eng sides, and 3 from Spain. Everyone hoping to get Porto or Schalke then!

Whatever about Liverpool and Chelsea, there won't be three spanish sides anyway. Sevilla were beaten by Fenerbache.

Great result for the Arsenal last night, fair play to them. It's not easy to go and win in the San Siro. I hope Liverpool can emulate them next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 05, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
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It looks (Fingers crossed for Chelsea) that there will 4 Eng sides, and 3 from Spain. Everyone hoping to get Porto or Schalke then!

Whatever about Liverpool and Chelsea, there won't be three spanish sides anyway. Sevilla were beaten by Fenerbache.

Great result for the Arsenal last night, fair play to them. It's not easy to go and win in the San Siro. I hope Liverpool can emulate them next week.

Yip. I sent that pre the demise of Sevilla assuming they'd get through. Wrong again!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 05, 2008, 12:32:52 PM
Not often you see Gattuso and Pirlo completely overrun in midfield, though they were (badly) missing Seedorf - Man Utd. fell at this hurdle last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 05, 2008, 01:48:45 PM
Did United not fall at the semi's?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on March 05, 2008, 01:53:14 PM
Did United not fall at the semi's?

Correct. Remember we were all nervously anticipating a potential Liverpool v Man Utd champions league final? :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 05, 2008, 02:55:56 PM
Did United not fall at the semi's?

Think he meant the hurdle being Milan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 05, 2008, 04:29:32 PM
Good review of the Italian reports of last night.

Paolo Bandini
guardian.co.uk
 
Milan - The End
 
Defeat to Arsenal saw Milan fail to reach the quarter-finals of the Champions League for the first time since the second group stage was abandoned in 2003-04, and the first time they have failed to reach the semi-finals since 2004-05. With Milan's starting XI boasting an average age of over 30 last night, and 39-year-old captain Paolo Maldini set to retire at the end of the season, it is unsurprising, perhaps, that the Italian press have greeted last night as the end of an era.

"Milan: The End", booms the front page headline - written in English - of today's Gazzetta dello Sport, while other papers have taken a similar tack. "[Milan manager Carlo] Ancelotti's era is over", insists a Corriere dello Sport headline, despite the fact the club's owner, Silvio Berlusconi, has insisted he plans to stick by his manager even if he fails to qualify for next year's Champions League. "End of the Road", concurs the Corriere della Sera.

Nevertheless, few writers have been particularly critical of Ancelotti's team - most preferring to reflect simply on a remarkable spell of European dominance. "Now that it is finished, before explaining why it is finished, let's have a round of applause for the exit of the champions of everything," says Gazzetta's Franco Arturi. "Milan deserves it. They carried for a long time a legend, founded on their play, class, and desire, around the world; they are one of the most successful Italian brands. They burned themselves out as they did so often, pushing themselves to the very edge of their limits. A serene end, if not a glorious one, to years spent in the very best way.

"Ancelotti knew he had a squad on its knees, one that had been bouncing for months between Wednesdays and Sundays to an unsustainable rhythm: the last high, the intercontinental cup won last winter, was paid for at the highest price possible, with an impossible calendar. To try to repeat the miracle achieved last year would have required a complete turnover of players between the championship and the [Champions League] - 10 players in and 10 players out each time. Milan's precarious position in the league wouldn't permit such a course of action."

To a man the Italian press corps seem in accordance that Arsenal fully deserved their victory, but nevertheless a few were left ruing the timing of Cesc Fábregas's opener. "I have to admit I allowed myself to be fooled in the last 20 minutes of the game, when the exhausted Milan drew out their very best, through sheer heart and positive thinking," says Gazzetta's senior writer and former editor Candido Cannavò. "Some members of the team called for the physio, but the flashes from Kaka and [Alexandre] Pato allowed one to keep dreaming."

Corriere della Sera's Mario Sconcerti agrees. "With the sort of irony that often accompanies goodbyes, Milan's run ended with the concession of a goal in their best moment of the match," he says. "Arsenal were no longer managing to hold on to the ball, [Arsenal striker Emmanuel] Adebayor, extraordinary atypical monument of modern football, had disappeared. Indeed, Fábregas had understood the slowness of his team and took the responsibility of going it alone. He got lucky, but neither he nor his team-mates stole anything. They dominated the game. In the first leg and the second."

Arsenal are lauded for their attacking intent, La Repubblica's Gianni Mura noting that: "Arsenal brought seven players looking to play the ball in Milan's half, while Milan for long periods were restricted to two: Pato and [Filippo] Inzaghi forward, sometimes supported by Kaka, and the rest a long way behind." Fábregas, meanwhile, comes in for special praise from Mura's colleague Andrea Sorrentino. "Here he is, the splendid midfielder who disappointed a little in the first leg. This time he was the master of the pitch, in front of the defence to shut down (well) Kaka, then indefatigable weaver of the play, often the furthest forward, avoiding Gattuso and Ambrosini's traps and even getting himself into positions from which to shoot."

Inevitably, however, the acknowledgement of the end of an era has also opened the discussion of how Milan can progress from here. "The elimination now opens the route to a remodernisation," says Sconcerti, "maybe even a real refounding. The last time, at the beginning of the 2000s, Ancelotti managed to find new solutions on the fly. He had a 23-year-old Pirlo, a 28-year-old Inzaghi, a 25-year-old Nesta. He had leaders as well as champions. This team now, however, is a decadent Milan that no longer has a firm point of reference. Kaka goes on his own, Pato is a kid and outside of any communal initiative. Pirlo follows but doesn't lead. I don't think it was by chance that their worst night arrived when they were missing the one truly charismatic player they have left - [Clarence] Seedorf."

The last word was saved for Maldini, for whom last night marked the sad end of a glorious European career in which he has picked up five European Cups across three decades. All of the major Italian dailies named him Milan's man of the match. "In London, Maldini had been 'magnificent' according to the English press," concludes Corriere della Sera's Paolo Tomaselli. "Yesterday Paolino was simply one of the best in Ancelotti's team. One of the last to give in to the evidence of a generational clash which Milan couldn't win."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 05, 2008, 04:53:33 PM
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Think he meant the hurdle being Milan.

I know, but I'm in a fran mood.  Plus, I hate talking about the Milan games last year.  Circumstances were definitely in Arsenals favour last night. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on March 05, 2008, 07:09:13 PM
This is the result Arsenal needed. Wenger's teams feed off confidence moreso than any other of the top sides who can grind out results.
First English side to defeat Milan in Italy?

Would swop it for the Carling Cup though.
Was going to congratulate the Gooners on their win, but I suppose some people have no class, having a snide swipe at Spurs, couldn't resist it ONeill could you?

* Was there no segregation? Kept panning to shots of pockets of Goons celebrating among glum Milanese.
I'd well believe that. Know a few who went to see Celtic there in the group stages and they were sitting amongst the Milan supporters. Strange when you consider all the trouble at Italian football games in recent times.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 05, 2008, 07:40:45 PM
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Think he meant the hurdle being Milan.

I know, but I'm in a fran mood.  Plus, I hate talking about the Milan games last year.  Circumstances were definitely in Arsenals favour last night. 

What circumstances would they be?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2008, 11:56:00 PM
This is the result Arsenal needed. Wenger's teams feed off confidence moreso than any other of the top sides who can grind out results.
First English side to defeat Milan in Italy?

Would swop it for the Carling Cup though.
Was going to congratulate the Gooners on their win, but I suppose some people have no class, having a snide swipe at Spurs, couldn't resist it ONeill could you?


Have you absolutely no knowledge of the Spurs/Arsenal friendly rivalry? If that annoys you, you'd be best supporting Barnet or the like. As for snide, no - completely open and above board. Finally, I'd say Arsenal fans the breadth of the country are seriously peeved you cannot congratulate us. Now, away with you before I annoy you further and resurrect the Totteringham thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on March 09, 2008, 05:55:49 PM
Goons drop another two points.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2008, 07:31:07 PM
Disastrous result. With only 9 games left, it's looking like 9 wins, and that includes visits to Old Trafford and Stamford. Crap pitch is no excuse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2008, 07:33:26 PM
Happy St Totteringham's Day by the way.........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 01:45:57 PM
Very happy with that draw. Should turn them over. The only downside is the fixure list now:

Chelsea (A)
Bolton (A)
Liverpool (H)
Liverpool (H)
Liverpool (A)
Man Utd (A)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2008, 01:57:39 PM
Very happy with that draw. Should turn them over. The only downside is the fixure list now:

Chelsea (A)
Bolton (A)
Liverpool (H)
Liverpool (H)
Liverpool (A)
Man Utd (A)

On current form?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 02:01:22 PM
Remained unbeaten in big games and with the squad strengthening by the day I'm fairly confident.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2008, 02:03:22 PM
Remained unbeaten in big games and with the squad strengthening by the day I'm fairly confident.

Drawing three crucial consecutive games you would have expected 9 points from is surely patchy form
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 02:10:04 PM
Going to the San Siro and tanking the European Champions indicates what Arsenal can do in 'big' games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 14, 2008, 02:14:14 PM
Going to the San Siro and tanking the European Champions indicates what Arsenal can do in 'big' games.

If you're going for the title they are all 'big' games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 02:17:53 PM
No, unfortunately for this side they fail to adhere to that. Was over at the Arsenal/Villa game and Arsenal played like a side with all eyes on the Milan game. They cantered through it. 3 days later and it was a completely different side that took to the field in the SS yet the same players. Then back to Wigan with half the side sleeping through the game.

I feel we're looking at a repeat of the 2006 final, with Henry on the losing side again, sending him around the bend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 15, 2008, 07:28:12 PM
O'Neill you would have to admit youse have shit on the nest badly
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on March 15, 2008, 08:23:15 PM
Cannot see us winning the league now - we arent scoring and this is worrying goven the stage of the season - we have gave it away by squandering a 5 point lead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 15, 2008, 08:49:44 PM
It's going to come down to the top 4 games, starting next Sunday. I expect Utd and Chelsea to win midweek. That'll leave Utd 3 ahead with Arsenal and Chelsea level. Then on Easter Sunday (families ruined) Liverpool to beat Utd and Arsenal/Chelsea draw.....or the former a draw and a winner in the latter....or....

As for today - if the linesman had called Adebayor's goal correctly, Arsenal would've been 1-0 up after 5 would have pished all over Boro. Luck hasn't been on their side lately. Going to be one hell of a next 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2008, 08:39:38 PM
On the other hand - Utd and Chelsea both win on Wednesday and Sunday.....I'm digging a hole in the yard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2008, 11:15:38 PM
Great result tonight. Win at Old Trafford in a few weeks like last year in the league and it's Arsenal's title. Utd won't beat Liverpool or Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on March 19, 2008, 11:18:44 PM
Nurse!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on March 19, 2008, 11:20:56 PM
They will need to stop dropping points like the home draws with Villa and Boro though, even though two may have been gained with late goals. Still it may be that by holding Chelski tongiht, that Spurs did ye no harm tonight. :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on March 19, 2008, 11:22:26 PM
I reckon Samson needs some hair extensions ,quickly. Arse to win the euro ties, and lose the league game in the middle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2008, 11:30:26 PM
If the Mancs won on Sunday, Arsenal and Chelsea kick off 6 and 8 points behind. At that stage, it's a case of who is motivated enough to overcome that gap to eek a win in their game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 19, 2008, 11:31:00 PM
What odds two draws?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 20, 2008, 09:26:01 AM
Looks like another trophyless season for the Goons. I mean if you can't beat the likes of Birmingham and Boro, you cannot aspire to win the Premiership.Also the Goons are the worst of the four English sides (or shoud that be english based sides crammed full of foreign players) left in the Champions League and much as it would delight me to see the Arse lose a second final in three seasons I think it will all end on the banks of the mersey on April 8th
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 23, 2008, 08:15:10 PM
A real kick in the knackers that one. Chelsea just had too much experience all over the field, even though it was the long ball to Anelka/Drogba which did the damage. Both sides had periods of dominance. You could say 'only if' regarding the rash of injuries in the one minute before the equaliser but I still feel Arsenal weren't the better side.

The future - the three games v Liverpool will now dictate the reason. No one really to come back apart from Rosicky. Badly need a goal scorer on form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 24, 2008, 01:50:54 PM

One thing that that has surprised me with the press and gooner supporters is how they've allowed wenger to get away with playing almunia over lehman, especially at this stage of the season. almunia is a rank bad keeper at this level who has cost arsenal a fair few points this season and sticking with him when you've a top class keeper sitting on the bench, for no other reason than personal ones, is mismanagement of the highest order. i know wenger can do no wrong in a lot of gooner eyes but its just one glaring example of poor decision making from wenger since christmas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 24, 2008, 04:36:24 PM
Enjoyed that game last night and thought Blackburn played really well. Arsenal are a joy to watch when they move the ball at pace. League is over

Still over Declan  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2008, 05:31:19 PM
Have to say that's complete bollocks Uladh. Wenger dropped Lehmann after some serious clangers,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6931066.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6941871.stm

at the very start of the season. Alumnia has come in and has rarely put a foot wrong. His performances in Europe have been mistake-free. In fact I can't remember any mistakes all year. Arsenal have only conceded 24 goals this season in 31 games.

Lehmann was well past his best-before date and had become a complete liability/laughing stock. Wenger played him in the cups this year - including the 4-0 at Old Trafford.

Wenger has blinkers OK when it comes to his style of play and the 'fruitiness' of his teams, but he has been spot on with the Jens decision.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 24, 2008, 05:53:58 PM
agree totally o'neill, jens is over the hill and almunia has done nothing wrong this season..made one unreal save down to his left against chelsea and was unlucky for the drogs second...definately made number 1 his own, our major problem is that we want to play beautiful football every game for 90mins, we need to learn to play bolton type football where we can hoof it up and get a few scrappy goals.

would love the dixon, keown, adams and winterburn back four again, no nonsense and no goals conceeded
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on March 24, 2008, 05:57:13 PM
Did Walcott get a kick at all?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2008, 06:00:46 PM
Not a sniff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on March 25, 2008, 11:11:17 AM
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Still over Declan  Wink

Sure is. Didn't think the Gooners would implode like they have in the last few games. It's their worst run of form in 9 years. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2008, 11:39:01 AM
Very disappointed with Arsenal, they really seem to have hit a wall, not enough squad dept and seriously need a centre-back ala Vidic or Carvalho who was immense on Sunday. Adebayor has been terrible the last month. Will struggle against Liverpool's long ball game and I can see the season ending on a damp squip...very demoralising
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2008, 11:49:25 AM
Arseblog


Four points from fifteen does not make champions

Chelsea 2-1 Arsenal

It’s impossible to be anything other than bitterly disappointed this morning. A 2-1 defeat at Chelsea has probably killed off our title chances for this season and while defeat against them hurts it’s our current form that’s the most disturbing to me. Four points from the last fifteen is not the kind of run title winning teams go on.

The team looks tired and I think we’re beginning to pay the price for having such a small squad. There’s no chance to rest players, there’s no real competition for positions and while I wouldn’t dream of suggesting any of them have been taking things for granted that extra bit of pressure on you to perform when you know there’s someone itching to get a chance really does make a difference.

For a while it looked positive. The first half was pretty even I thought. There were a couple of chances, Gallas, a couple of van Persie shots and a goalmouth scramble, while Chelsea had a great opportunity with Drogba but he fucked it up. It wasn’t great football though from either side. In the second half we took the lead through Bacary Sagna’s smart header from Cesc’s corner. It was a great finish and I did think we had the ability to hang to it.

However, a couple of things happened which put us under pressure. The first was when Emmanuel Eboue was moving down the right, a Chelsea player lay ‘injured’ and the crowd were beginning to call for him to put the ball out. Eboue, who wants to be everyone’s friend it seems, did just that when he should have just played on and waited for the ref to stop play. This bollocks convention is creeping back into the game and frankly it’s down to managers to make sure their players don’t do it. If the ref stops the play then fine, otherwise play on. Then John Terry, great sportsman that he is, instead of giving the ball back to us kicked it down towards our corner flag then Chelsea attacked the throw-in. Poxy stuff, and what a great example the England captain set there. w**ker.

Cesc ...From that moment we found ourselves under pressure and Bacary Sagna injured his ankle clearing a ball. Not to be outdone Eboue had to pretend to be injured too and when Kolo needed treatment we found ourselves with just 8 players on the pitch at one stage as Chelsea had a throw in. Sagna went off, Eboue to right back, and we just lost our shape from then on. Both Drogba and Anelka were offside when the pass was played forward but Gallas completely missed the header and when the ball fell to Drogba on the edge of the box he lashed it home to equalise. To my mind that all came about from Chelsea’s unsportsmanlike behaviour. I’m not saying they wouldn’t have scored in the game, because they had players capable of it and had been putting us under pressure, but that sequence of play came about from that.

The second came when Gallas was beaten in the air again, this time by Nicolas Anelka (hardly renowned as an aerial threat). He flicked on, Kolo kicked air and the ball fell to Drogba. His shot into the ground might have Almunia thinking he could have done better but I think the keeper got caught out by the bounce. Drogba was denied a hat-trick just minutes later when Almunia made a great stop at the near post after that **** Beletti had opened us up down the right hand side.

We threw on Theo who, to my mind at least, seemed to be ignored by his teammates. At least twice I saw Hleb look up and see him in space on the right only to turn back infield and try the impossible pass. I know he didn’t do much with it the one time he did get it but I didn’t like what I saw there. Bendtner came on but it was too little, too late - and Chelsea’s bench showing where the sportsmanship comes from in the club by holding onto the ball when we had a throw sums up everything about that despicable club. The same fans who were chanting ‘You don’t know what you’re doing’ to their manager were the ones cheering loudest at the end. c***ts. Three vital points lost and it leaves us with plenty to discuss.

I don’t really want to go too far down the road of criticising inviduals because as a whole the team is not playing well. But when that happens you need your big players to take on that bit of extra responsibility and make something happen. We seem to have regressed into the frustrating Arsenal of last season, everything through the middle, no width, and always looking for the eye of the needle pass. We know how good it is when it comes off but when it doesn’t come off you have to be able to try something different. Get wide, get crosses in, something.

The bottom line though is that we’re lacking personnel. I don’t understand how Arsene thinks Emmanuel Eboue is good enough to play on a regular basis for this Arsenal team. He is a joke of a footballer, rubbish again yesterday and one cross aside has contributed nothing to what this side has achieved this season. No goals, just that one assist, and this is from the right hand side of midfield - where if you really want to win the title you need players who can contribute something. Anything! He was also lucky not to be sent off yesterday, if Clattenburg had seen his deliberate handball he’d have been off. He’s a liability. Give Theo a run in the team on the right hand side now. I just can’t understand why Arsene persists with him. I really can’t.

We have players off the boil too. Adebayor is struggling but he made an outstanding contribution to this season already - and you have to say he’s not really getting the same kind of service at the moment. Alex Hleb when on song is a fine player. Alex Hleb when not on song is a hindrance. He slows things down, always looks for a difficult pass, never shoots and overall, on song or not, doesn’t produce enough in terms of goals or assists for a player of his ability and responsibility. He probably does need a rest but we can’t give him one. That’s not his fault, that’s down the manager for not augmenting the wide areas like he should have done in either the summer or the January transfer window, but he’s got to give us more than he’s giving at the moment.

I’d also question why van Persie, a striker, was played left so Hleb could play behind Adebayor. If Hleb was in sparkling form that’d be something but he’s not producing at the moment and van Persie’s effectiveness is lessened with him out there. Play your best striker as a striker. Makes sense to me. Hopefully the time on the pitch will do Robin good because it’s fairly obvious he’s finding his touch again after so long out. There were a couple of moments where I think a fully sharp RVP would have caused some serious damage to Chelsea yesterday.

At the back I don’t really understand why the Gallas - Senderos partnership was broken up. I know Kolo has been a big player but this has not been his finest season and I’ve always maintained that he and Gallas are too similar. I lost count of how many times they simply stood off Drogba, not challenging him in the air, and let him take the ball down as easy as you like. Hopefully the runaround Drogba gave both Toure and Gallas might dispel the myth that it’s only Senderos that has ever found Drogba difficult to play against. Drogba’s scoring record in the last couple of seasons suggests that pretty much every defender in the league has found him hard going. We needed somebody to challenge for headers yesterday and neither Kolo or Gallas did. I’d drop Kolo and bring Senderos back - or if Sagna is out for a while I’d consider moving Kolo to right back, especially if it means Eboue doesn’t play. You’ve got to pick a team on merit, not reputation, and Senderos did not deserve to get dropped.

Afterwards Arsene Wenger was critical of the defence, saying:

    It is a big setback for us when you add the four games we drew and today’s loss. Now we just have to come back and win games before we dream of the title. We needed a bit more defensive authority as the game was there to be taken. We had plenty of chances on the counter-attack when they went 4-4-2. It was just a matter of time to score the second goal. We were not serene enough defensively.

I don’t know that you need to be defensively ’serene’. Solid, would be good. More committed would also be fine. You need your experienced centre-halves to not kick fresh air. Of course it’s a team thing, defending from the front and all that, but the fact is we’re still prone to conceding sloppy goals and it’s costing us.

Anyway, like I said there’s plenty to discuss and everybody has their opinion. On the other hand though, before everyone gets too downhearted, there’s still a lot of football to play this season. If by some miracle we do find our form again we still have a chance in this league. A win at Old Trafford would cut the gap to 3, and we just need United to slip up once more (remember they have to play Chelsea as well) and it’s all open again. I know it’s unlikely but it’s not impossible. And that’s saying nothing about the Champions League. So, while it’s perfectly normal to be pissed off and upset and angry about yesterday let’s not start wallowing in it. The fat lady might be warming up but she hasn’t sung yet. We’ve got to find our form again though, and quickly.

So, with Steve Bennet doing his best to make life easy for Demento at Old Trafford (Mascherano’s sending off was quite disgraceful, as was the yellow card Torres got for being kicked in the back of legs three times) it’s been a good weekend for United. And it seems like way too long since we had a good weekend ourselves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on March 27, 2008, 12:26:42 PM
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=dvn8HYp_RD0&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 27, 2008, 01:12:19 PM

Poor management from arsene:

appointing gallas as captain. unbelievable. toure's form has dipped this season having been inexplicably overlooked.
perserveing with almunia in goal despite him being adequate at best (second goal on sunday just the latest example of not making anything above functional saves - If wenger was not sure about Lehman he should have bought in january.
not purchasing a centre back with physical presence in january. despite losing toure to ACN wenger was more concerned with protecting his reputation of not spending big in the transfer market. he seems to be intent on playing footballers at centre half, hence their inability to deal with Drogba, etc.
refusal to take "stars" out of the firing line when in a rut of bad form. wenger's poilicy over the last 6 weeks when Adebayor and cesc hit periods of very poor form has been to close his eyes and cross his fingers.
He has introduced no width to his teams. teams block the centre and arsenal have no answer. there isn't a single player in the squad who can beat a man on the outside and provide the crosses adebayor is crying out for.
wenger has consistently given his players excuses for poor performances. "no protection from the ref", "still traumatised over the eduardo incident", etc in the vital stages of the season. squeaky bum time is for strength of charachter and mental resolve, which wenger's teams patently lack.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 28, 2008, 05:30:48 PM
Arsène Wenger has hinted that he may rest Emmanuel Adebayor for the trip to Bolton on Saturday.

The Togolese striker has been the mainstay of the Arsenal attack this season. He has featured in 29 of his side's 31 Premier League games this term scoring 19 goals in the process. However he has hit the net only once in his last eight appearances in all competitions. It came in the solitary win of that sequence - the 2-0 win in Milan. Otherwise the 24-year-old's difficult spell has coincided with the struggles of his side. With three games against Liverpool then another at Manchester United on the horizon, it is no surprise that Wenger was suggesting he might rotate Adebayor this weekend.

"I believe he has given a lot this year and so he would need a little breather, maybe," said the manager. "He has played a lot on his own up front and has had to fight very hard. So at the moment, to refresh him a bit would do him some good.

"He has not scored recently but then, as a team, we have made less chances. Also physically he was a bit jaded because he has played in nearly every single game since the start of the season.

"He is an important player in our squad. But I have Bendtner there and I have van Persie coming back."


He has looked tired alright for a few weeks now. I thought he was very well marshalled at chelsea. Hopefully bentner will take his chance now.. we need goals!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 28, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
appointing gallas as captain. unbelievable. toure's form has dipped this season having been inexplicably overlooked.

Bollocks. Toure's form dipped since his injury at the ACN. As Arsene says, when Arsenal were riding high a couple of month's ago Gallas was the bees' knees in the eyes of all and sundry. I'd have Gallas a million times as captain material.

perserveing with almunia in goal despite him being adequate at best (second goal on sunday just the latest example of not making anything above functional saves - If wenger was not sure about Lehman he should have bought in january.

Already covered. Almunia has been solid all year.

not purchasing a centre back with physical presence in january. despite losing toure to ACN wenger was more concerned with protecting his reputation of not spending big in the transfer market. he seems to be intent on playing footballers at centre half, hence their inability to deal with Drogba, etc.

Yes, it's Arsene's philosophy and we're stuck with it. When it works it is fantastic but will come a-cropper at times. The first signs were when Adams, Bould and Keown starting playing the ball on the ground between themselves - twas heart in the mouth stuff but we got used to it. Arsene recently stated that winning trophies wasn't the be-all-and-end-all for him - it was winning through beautiful football as he sees it and if they don't win, at least they played the way he wanted to. Again, as Arsenal fans we're stuck with that.

refusal to take "stars" out of the firing line when in a rut of bad form. wenger's poilicy over the last 6 weeks when Adebayor and cesc hit periods of very poor form has been to close his eyes and cross his fingers.

In the past Arsene has rested players regularly. Henry, Vieira, Campbell etc all had free weekends in the past. However, this year the fringe players are mightily young and not ready to sustain a title challenge. I think his starting team matured 1-2 years early in terms of challenging for a title and has surprised everyone connected to the club.

He has introduced no width to his teams. teams block the centre and arsenal have no answer. there isn't a single player in the squad who can beat a man on the outside and provide the crosses adebayor is crying out for.

Arsene has never played that way. Even in 1998 and 2002/04 with Overmars, Pires and Ljungberg he made his wingers play through the middle. That's just Wenger's way of doing it. In fact this year has been the first he has veered towards the less innovative system you are indicating, with Walcott and Eboue both sporadically hugging the touchline. As for Adebayor crying out for crosses, have you not watched him play? Apart from one game when he scored two headers, he almost shirks aerial contact. His ground play is much more impressive.


wenger has consistently given his players excuses for poor performances. "no protection from the ref", "still traumatised over the eduardo incident", etc in the vital stages of the season. squeaky bum time is for strength of charachter and mental resolve, which wenger's teams patently lack.



Wenger had lifted two doubles plus another title in which he went the whole season unbeaten, and beyond. For any side to manage that they need serious mental strength and character. Add to that the panache with which they achieved it. He has also won something like 4-5 FA Cups, reached the UEFA and CL finals. His sides have set records in almost all competitions in recent years.

Now, all Arsenal fans know we'll never be a Liverpool or Man Utd. We (I know that's frowned upon here) will never be a massive club which almost demands success no matter how it is obtained. Utd fans will be happy with Fergie nicking the talent off his nearest rivals or the cream of the rest in his division (Cantona, Rooney, Yorke, Cole, Keane, Ferdinand, Carrick, Saha, Tevez...the list is endless) and that's their prerogative as they demand success. Arsenal have always done it the Arsenal way and unlike every other club, have won titles in almost every decade, the 30s, 40s, 50s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s but will never dominate for a concerted period of time. Under Wenger, the Arsenal way has been to nurture talent or spot the diamond in the rough, gel them and challenge regularly. We accept he'll never go berserk in the market in order to achieve silverware. He'll do it his way. And despite the occasional frustration, we love the club and the man for it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 29, 2008, 10:39:54 AM
you actually only disagree with 3 of my 6 points (that was easier than i expected!). i'm a little confused why you can just accept avoidable failings such as not strenghtening the squad, over loyalty and stubborn persistence with a failing style of play. anyway...

appointing gallas as captain. unbelievable. toure's form has dipped this season having been inexplicably overlooked.

Bollocks. Toure's form dipped since his injury at the ACN. As Arsene says, when Arsenal were riding high a couple of month's ago Gallas was the bees' knees in the eyes of all and sundry. I'd have Gallas a million times as captain material.

Gallas was always a terrible choice for captain. Gilberto has been ostracised for his public disgruntlement over the choice (to the detrement of arsenal's title aspirations) and his strops and disloyalty at chelsea should have been warning enough about the strength of the man's character. gallas' public criticisms of teammates recently are unbelievable from the captain of a team at the sharp end of a crumbling title challenge.

perserveing with almunia in goal despite him being adequate at best (second goal on sunday just the latest example of not making anything above functional saves - If wenger was not sure about Lehman he should have bought in january.

Already covered. Almunia has been solid all year.

He has been far from solid unless arsenal are winning. almunia is one of the worst pressure game performers ive seen in a long time. when arsenal go one down he gets more like grobalaar with every passing minute. but lets say he has been solid. he is still not amongs the best 1o keepers in the division, which is unforgivable for a manager with title aspirations. How much would Friedel or James have cost in january? less than £2m.


wenger has consistently given his players excuses for poor performances. "no protection from the ref", "still traumatised over the eduardo incident", etc in the vital stages of the season. squeaky bum time is for strength of charachter and mental resolve, which wenger's teams patently lack.


Wenger had lifted two doubles plus another title in which he went the whole season unbeaten, and beyond. For any side to manage that they need serious mental strength and character. Add to that the panache with which they achieved it. He has also won something like 4-5 FA Cups, reached the UEFA and CL finals. His sides have set records in almost all competitions in recent years.

there has been no middle in wenger's teams since the departure of the players with that quality whom he inherited. wenger would never sign an adams or keown. they have consistently faild to convert from winning positions in recent seasons. how many years trophyless now? the only player who could have improved arsenal in this respect, gilberto, has been standing in the bold corner for 6 months.

this story that is spun about wenge never spending money doesn't wash. he has recently spent big money on walcott, eduardo, hleb, gallas and rosicky. i will give him his dues though... his policy of sending his scouts to watch the academy teams of the major european clubs rather than to scout players themselves was a masterstroke. tribunal fees or cut price fees for academy contracted players is the cheaper option by far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 29, 2008, 12:18:52 PM
Gallas was always a terrible choice for captain. Gilberto has been ostracised for his public disgruntlement over the choice (to the detrement of arsenal's title aspirations) and his strops and disloyalty at chelsea should have been warning enough about the strength of the man's character. gallas' public criticisms of teammates recently are unbelievable from the captain of a team at the sharp end of a crumbling title challenge.


there would not have been any point making gilberto captain considering he is not getting a game. Toure has been away on african cup duty with ivory coast so how would he have captained when he was not there. That left gallas as the choice of captain.
Now i am not his biggest fan as captain. He is a good centre back and indeed a versatile player as he can play in a either full back position too, but he does seem to have a tendency to be distant from other players and imho is not the best motivator ala adams and viera. But at the time he was the best available to be captain. Someone who has already won a championship and has premier league experience.over time we will see cesc, denilson & maybe diaby develop the traits necessary to be a great captain.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on March 29, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
thats better ildanach you weren't the same with your avatar missing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 03:39:11 PM
Diabby (31) sent off for a very dangerous tackle. Will be interesting to see to see if Wenger seen the incident!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 29, 2008, 03:57:51 PM
Diabby (31) sent off for a very dangerous tackle. Will be interesting to see to see if Wenger seen the incident!

I wonder will Diaby be allowed to play football again?

2-0 to Notlob....the Goons implosion continues.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on March 29, 2008, 04:14:27 PM
Arsenal have imploded ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 29, 2008, 04:25:47 PM
Billy G 2-1 now............
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 29, 2008, 04:29:38 PM
they have a pen

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 29, 2008, 04:30:01 PM
2-2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 04:33:09 PM
Could the Gunners, restart their title challenge with another goal while possibly further securing the relegation of their Nemisis Bolton?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 04:59:39 PM
Could the Gunners, restart their title challenge with another goal while possibly further securing the relegation of their Nemisis Bolton?

Mission accomplished!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on March 29, 2008, 07:40:55 PM
I think Bolton are down alright given the other results today, not so sure about arsenals title challenge though, six points behind with six games to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 08:30:09 PM
Diabby (31) sent off for a very dangerous tackle. Will be interesting to see to see if Wenger seen the incident!

Shock horror Wenger sees "A protective Tackle" ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on March 29, 2008, 10:45:00 PM
Fecking could have cried for Bolton but that is a great comeback.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 31, 2008, 01:42:18 PM
Diabby (31) sent off for a very dangerous tackle. Will be interesting to see to see if Wenger seen the incident!

Shock horror Wenger sees "A protective Tackle" ;)

from arsenal.com
Arsène Wenger admits that Abou Diaby deserved his red card at Bolton on Saturday but dismissed comparisons with the tackle which left Eduardo with a broken leg and a dislocated ankle.

Diaby was sent off after sliding in and catching Gretar Steinsson with his studs raised at the Reebok Stadium. The Frenchman's dismissal left Arsenal a man down as well as a goal down but Wenger had no complaints.

However, the Arsenal manager insisted that Diaby's tackle was not as bad as Martin Taylor's challenge on Eduardo at Birmingham last month or indeed the lunge by Sunderland's Dan Smith which sidelined Diaby for nine months in May 2006.

"I knew the injury [to Steinsson] was not bad," said Wenger after Arsenal's 3-2 win at Bolton.

"Diaby certainly hit him but it was not comparable with what happened [to Eduardo] a few weeks ago. Diaby's tackle was a fraction high but as long the foot is off the ground you cannot complain.
"Diaby was injured and out for nine months but that tackle [from Smith] was very bad. It was malicious. Diaby's tackle was not malicious but your intention does not count. It is where your foot is that counts."


i think this shows wenger is not complaining about the sending off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Old Bill on March 31, 2008, 03:46:49 PM
PROB THE FIRST TIME THAT WENGER HAS ACTUALLY SEEN A MAJOR INCIDENT INVOLVING ONE OF HIS PLAYERS!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 31, 2008, 03:48:11 PM
Caps lock stuck? :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Old Bill on March 31, 2008, 03:53:25 PM
No, it was just to emphasise the point!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 31, 2008, 04:31:43 PM
aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 31, 2008, 04:34:14 PM
Relax Dinny. It's all good :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 31, 2008, 05:08:36 PM
PROB THE FIRST TIME THAT WENGER HAS ACTUALLY SEEN A MAJOR INCIDENT INVOLVING ONE OF HIS PLAYERS!
sure it was right in front of the dug out- how could he miss it ;D
Alot of the other incidents that he doesn't see happen either end of the field  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
Gallas was always a terrible choice for captain. Gilberto has been ostracised for his public disgruntlement over the choice (to the detrement of arsenal's title aspirations) and his strops and disloyalty at chelsea should have been warning enough about the strength of the man's character. gallas' public criticisms of teammates recently are unbelievable from the captain of a team at the sharp end of a crumbling title challenge.

Gilberto? I can only assume you haven't really been following Arsenal all that closely. Arsene saw in the Brazilian what he noticed in Vieira, Henry, Pires etc - his time was done. Gilberto was living on borrowed time towards the end of last season despite his goal tally from penalties. His passing and tackling this year was of a man in serious decline and the invisible wall has now completely disappeared. Wenger brought him on recently for a decent spell in a game. His first pass was straight to the opposition. His second was a glorious through ball to no one. He'll not be here come August. Gilberto, like Lehmann, had become a liability. Gallas is a motivator who plays with his heart on his sleeve. He has scored against Chelsea and Utd this year and leads the side by example. Forget the Birmingham incident. In my book that showed how much he cared. Gallas has not publically criticised his teammates so don't fall into the trap of tabloid sensationalism. He made honest remarks about Walcott, more encouraging than anything.


He has been far from solid unless arsenal are winning. almunia is one of the worst pressure game performers ive seen in a long time. when arsenal go one down he gets more like grobalaar with every passing minute. but lets say he has been solid. he is still not amongs the best 1o keepers in the division, which is unforgivable for a manager with title aspirations. How much would Friedel or James have cost in january? less than £2m.

Almunia is a top-class shot stopper. Read the stats (or watch the games). Most of Arsenal goals against this year have been defensive errors.

there has been no middle in wenger's teams since the departure of the players with that quality whom he inherited. wenger would never sign an adams or keown. they have consistently faild to convert from winning positions in recent seasons. how many years trophyless now? the only player who could have improved arsenal in this respect, gilberto, has been standing in the bold corner for 6 months.

Wenger did not inherit Vieira, Gilberto, Campbell, Toure, Flamini etc.
You don't seem to grasp what Arsene and his side have done this season. We expected nothing due to the loss of quite a few of the Invincibles recently. However, he led the league for yonks, progressed to the QF of the champions' league and is still challenging on both fronts. This is not bad for a side with no middle. As for Gilberto again, you must be joking.

this story that is spun about wenge never spending money doesn't wash. he has recently spent big money on walcott, eduardo, hleb, gallas and rosicky..

If you want to, list the starting teams this weekend. List how much they cost. Arsenal would trail Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and I wouldn't be surprised if one or two more sides were more expensive to assemble.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 12:26:32 AM
Any thoughts on the line-out?

I'd be thinking along the lines of:

Eboue - Toure - Gallas - Clichy
Walcott - Flamini - Fabregas - Hleb
         RVP
         Adebayor.

The debate seems to be do Arsenal go Toure - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy as they did v Bolton. I don't think Arsene needs 3 central defenders on Torres. If he did, Eboue would probably offer defensive cover instead of Walcott. I'd expect Flamini to disrupt Gerrard but for Cesc to receive the same treatment from the Argie or Alonso. That'll allow Hleb to strut his stuff. Babel v Eboue and Kuyt v Clichy. Babel and Kuyt have a tendancy to play narrow so I can see Clicy and Eboue bombing up both wings - they're fit and fast enough to recover.

Hope that if Eboue starts, Gallas and Toure have a word with him to stay on the field for 90 mins. Adebaypr up front needs to run the Liverpool defence (aged?) ragged as he did Milan. Not confident of him netting. Van Persie could hold the key. He has been getting into scoring positions lately but needs to bring his accuracy to the game tomorrow.

Looking forward to watching Wenger v Benitez - in some respects (well, all) Benitez is the master at this comp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 02, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
I really hope Senderos doesn't play, he wouldn't play him would he?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 02, 2008, 11:36:56 AM
I think Van Persie is the ace in the hole for Arsenal tonight, and over the whole tie. I think Liverpool will try and soak up Arsenal pressure, and hit them on the break with Torres, Gerrard and Babel breaking with pace. I think that's a mistake, because I really feel Liverpool need a goal, as I have to assume Arsenal will score 1 at least at Anfield. I admire Arsenal for their philosphy to the game, and they would be great Champions of Europe, I just hope it's not this season, because that will mean they've knocked Liverpool out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on April 02, 2008, 12:22:39 PM
2-1 to Arsenal would be a good result for Liverpool.

If Arsenal score within 15 minutes, they could easily hit the net three times.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on April 02, 2008, 12:29:37 PM
I had a premunition that Arsenal would win 3-0 tonight..

So i just put £4 on 3-0 @ 20/1 and £1 on Arsenal 3-0 and Fabregas to score first@ 135/1..

Fingers Crossed.....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on April 02, 2008, 04:12:45 PM
I hope you're right O'Neil but I fear it might be

Toure - Gallas - Senderos - Clichy
Eboue - Flamini - Fabregas - Hleb
       RVP - Adebayor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 02, 2008, 05:17:55 PM
I think he will go with

Eboue - Gallas - Toure - Clichy
Diaby - Flamini - Fabregas - Hleb
       RVP - Adebayor

i have a feeling we will win, i really hope we keep a clean sheet.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on April 02, 2008, 05:20:13 PM
Considering you all have decided to play without a 'keeper, the clean sheet is highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 02, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
hope send-him-home doesnt play cos he's slow as a funeral and torres will leave him for dead..toure and gallas have to play at centre back. van the man is going to be key to arsenal tonight and i hope theo gets a run down the right cos he could expose the liverpool lack of pace at the back. 2-0 to the arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 07:00:32 PM
Senderos starts.

My monthly emoticon -  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 02, 2008, 07:43:02 PM
Senderos starts.

My monthly emoticon -  :o

he is going to prove us all wrong and score!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 02, 2008, 10:34:32 PM
frustrating night for the arsenal..had most of the play for the whole of game but couldnt capitalise on it. hleb was terrible and proved he is not up to the level we need, rosicky is twice the player and is badly missed. thought gallas was brilliant and senderos makes me have heart in mouth every time he touches the ball. stone wall penalty turned down, i dunno what the ref was thinking. 1 all goin to anfield is ok but the away goal could do us bigtime! up the arse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 11:02:06 PM
Pleased enough. Arsenal need something to fight for in games and this offers it to them. I think you're being a bit harsh on Hleb. He hadn't much luck tonight but he's the only one playing the way the team did 5 months ago.

I can see a 3-1 win at Anfield.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 02, 2008, 11:13:07 PM
yeah bein harsh but he has to keep the ball and stop giving it away too easy..after the penalty appeal he seemed to lose the plot completely, walcott looked lively but doesnt take man on enough with his pace...gallas is a class act! i wil be happy with a 1-0 victory at anfield nxt wk but can see it being 2-1 to the arse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 02, 2008, 11:23:08 PM
Quote
Pleased enough. Arsenal need something to fight for in games and this offers it to them. I think you're being a bit harsh on Hleb. He hadn't much luck tonight but he's the only one playing the way the team did 5 months ago.

I can see a 3-1 win at Anfield.

Agree with that, much the better side but i think this quarter-final will head to penalties......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 02, 2008, 11:25:52 PM
yeah bein harsh but he has to keep the ball and stop giving it away too easy..after the penalty appeal he seemed to lose the plot completely, walcott looked lively but doesnt take man on enough with his pace...gallas is a class act! i wil be happy with a 1-0 victory at anfield nxt wk but can see it being 2-1 to the arse

Would not be so confident, Arsenal have been struggling of late,

Milan D 0-0
Milan W 0-2

Manchester United L 0-4
Birmingham City D 2-2
Aston Villa D 1-1
Wigan Athletic D 0-0
Middlesbrough D 1-1
Chelsea L 1-2
Bolton Wanderers W 3-2

Bar the result v (mid-table Italy) Milan and v Bolton who will be relegated Arsenal have collapsed.

I am not saying they are not up to the Liverpool Challenge, it's just they are volitile at the moment and Liverpool are cute in Europe!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 11:31:05 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport/football/video/163000/bb/163358_16x9_bb.asx
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 11:39:47 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport/football/video/163000/bb/163357_16x9_bb.asx
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 11:44:02 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 02, 2008, 11:57:24 PM
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I suppose that is how you look holding onto a 1-1 away result!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 03, 2008, 08:56:25 AM
Arra sure, all Arsenal have to do is to pretend that they're Man Utd when playing against Benitez's Liverpool. Should do the job then! ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 09:36:31 AM
Well lads, I don't know whether to say well done, or hard luck to ye. The tie is still alive, very much so, but ye were very unlucky not to win last night. For what it's worth (not a lot i suspect), this is my post on the Liverpool thread.

*****************88

Funny old game last night. 1-1 is a result I'd be happy enough with, because if Arsenal score at Anfield, which I'm convinced they will do, at least Liverpool won't have a mountain to climb. Last night specifically, I thought Arsenal were very good for about 60 minutes. There was a spell after Arsenal scored (similar to the Chelsea game actually) where Liverpool were dominant, and the goal came quickly in that spell. Arsenal weathered the storm though, and should have scored at least one more (I thought it was a stonewall penalty), but they didn't and that might come back to haunt them. I was actually disappointed that Rafa took off Torres, even though he was poor last night, he looked tired and flat footed. I'd definitely rest him for Saturday and give big crouchy a chance to batter away at them. The reason I was disappointed was because I knew Arsenal would tire in the last 5 or 10 minutes, and bringing on Voronin was the equivalent of just filling a jersey. If Torres, or indeed Babel was up front on his own in the last 5 minutes when Arsenal did get tired and started being really sloppy at the back with passing and clearences, I think Liverpool would have gotten another chance, and that could be just as pivotal as Arsenal not scoring in the second half.

For Liverpool, I thought Reina was dodgy enough under crosses again, especially set pieces. He needs to do some work on that at traiining to make him more confident again, but Adebeyor's goal was fantastic in it's simplicity. It looked way too easy from a Liverpool standpoint, but to give credit where it's due Wenger obviously devised this to exploit the zonal marking. Standing on the line, great movement into the unmarked space and a pinpoint cross. Excellent stuff.

The back four looked solid enough, and buttressed by Mascherano and Alonso/Lucas from the front, they kept Arsenal largely going across in front of them, which would have been the game plan. Hleb's break for the penalty and Walcott's run were the only real times they got around the back of Liverpool, and all the other Arsenal passes through the channels had to be overhit to make it through, which meant they normally ran out of play or into Reina. Having said that Flamini's excellent ball to van Persie in the first half deserved better. Mascherano was a bit uncomfortable when Arsenal passed the ball around him, he loves being able to bite into people who are receiving the ball and dallying on it. Fabergas, when he was going well, wasn't doing that but Mascherano still perservered and got in a few good interceptions, and cleaned up a lot of 'second ball' that came out of the defence into that 'hole' area. Alonso was poor enough again, and will want to forget this season. I hope he stays at Anfield, because we need a player like him in that 4-2-3-1 formation but it's just not happening for him this season.

The attacking midfield trio were a mixed bag. I thought Gerrard was excellent for the 15 minutes when Liverpool got on top in the first half, and was constantly looking for the ball and even though his influence waned as Arsenal reasserted, he was always the out ball for Liverpool, and didn't give it away stupidly. Babel was disappointing, but I do think he will improve and is a long term bet. Kuyt worked hard and deserved his goal for workrate, but I can't help feeling he's a bit, well, thick. His first touch is shocking, and he does some awful stupid things. He can count himself a lucky man this morning that he wasn't apologising for a penalty incident.

Torres, as I mentioned, was disappointing last night, and looked tired to me. He was caught flatfooted a lot of the time when passes cam towards him, and while Gallas and Toure are quick, there were a couple of occasions when, had he been at his sharpest, he would have gotten away. I'd rest him on Saturday. As someone else said, he needs to knock that diving shit on the head too. There's no need for it. I don't know if he feels he has been kicked a lot this season or something, and has decided to go down in contact, but it does him no favours and is rotten to look at.

All in all, satisfactory result, but this tie is far, far from over. It'll be a big test on Tuesday night, but likewise Arsenal will probably not be prepared for the atmosphere at Anfield that night. They've obviously played there loads of times in the league, but this will be a bit different. I expect Liverpool to be cagey, Arsenal to dominate possession again, Liverpool to score from a break or a set piece, and Arsenal to press for an equaliser. If they get it, we could be on for a shoot out, depending on when it comes. If it goes to extra time, I would fancy Liverpool, because I think Arsenal are stretched physically at the moment. It'll be edgy stuff though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on April 03, 2008, 10:29:17 AM
I watched the Fans Forum late last night on Arsenal TV - the main phone in was the conspiracy theory that the referee last night lives five miles from where Kuyt grew up and where his family still reside! Surely this is wrong and Uefa should know these facts - and remember the stonewall well wasnt it good old Dirk who pulled Hleb back 5 yards from the ref......

All is not lost although all the talk of Liverpool getting the best result of the night doesnt faze me at all..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 12:22:26 PM
Was very disappointed Wenger started Senderos last night, even tough he didn't do much wrong. Walcott is playing his best football of the year right now and to sacrifice him for the more defensive Eboue was too conservative for this game. Why did Arsenal need Toure, Senderos, Gallas and Eboue as well as Clichy when facing a Liverpool who aren't exactly goal-merchants? Walcott, when he came on, tortured Carragher to the point that it was only a matter of time before the Liverpudlian was going to either give away a penalty or simply implode. Puzzlingly, Wenger moved Walcott in order to cater for Hleb's erratic form. Toure seemed slow to me throughout and Eboue limited.

Hleb had a bad night at the office. His passes were slightly off kilter and easily intercepted. He's still worth the 90 mins though - his run for the 'penalty' was majestic. However, you feel he needs Fabregas, Rosicky and Van Persie around him as they're the only players on the same wavelength. As the game wore on Fabregas was becoming more central as he was at Anfield in the league in the second half. There is a slight worry though that he is running out of steam this season. He's falling over the finishing line. Fair play to Kuyt though. He harassed Hleb and Cesc throughout and did a real 'Flamini' on them.

Up front it was frustrating to see Van Persie get the cotton wool treatment again. He's had a serious run of bad luck this season. He did look good in the first 25 mins though. Adebayor - didn't put himself about as much as I thought he would. In the San Siro he ran their centre backs ragged - another sign that perhaps a few of the players are in badly need of a breather Arsene can't afford to give them.

A major criticism of Arsenal yesterday for me was their attitude in the 2-3 minutes between the two goals. They had the chance to steady the ship and continue what they were doing. Instead, and I'd like to see it again, Arsenal tried to play 5-a-side, nutmegging, backheels etc. They gave the ball back to Liverpool repeatedly during instead of retaining possession. They deserved what they got.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 05:51:22 PM
Some amazing stats from last night on http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2007-2008/arsenal-liverpool-229682.html

Clichy passed the ball 91 times
Fabregas 79
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 05:55:09 PM
Arsenal's style of play is lovely in fairness. It's actually a throw back to the old Liverpool pass and move. As opposed to now, which is hoof and stand.

I notice they gave Skrtel the man of the match, that's interesting. I would have thought Gallas or Flamini, or even Fabergas. For Liverpool Gerrard or maybe headless Dirk.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 03, 2008, 05:58:43 PM
Some amazing stats from last night on http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2007-2008/arsenal-liverpool-229682.html

Clichy passed the ball 91 times

Gave it away 24 times mind. ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 06:01:42 PM
He had almost as many accurate passes as the whole Liverpool defence put together. Goes to show the differing game plans.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 06:02:41 PM
That's bullshit. At least 80% of the Liverpool defence's clearences found the target. The fact that the target was sitting in Row G, Section 10 is irrelevent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 03, 2008, 06:07:04 PM
He had almost as many accurate passes as the whole Liverpool defence put together. Goes to show the differing game plans.

Luckily there's no bonus points in football for artistic merit then. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 06:45:18 PM
That's bullshit. At least 80% of the Liverpool defence's clearences found the target. The fact that the target was sitting in Row G, Section 10 is irrelevent.

Accurate passes:

Clichy - 67

Hyypia 13
Aurelio 26
Carragher 14
Skrtel 20

What was impressive about Liverpool was that neither Carragher nor Skrtek had any 'bad' passes. That mightily impressive. Only bettered by Toure with 56 successes and zero bad and Eboue on 29-0. Hlebs 50-20 tells a story. Clichy also had 7 tackles, with Kuyt running away with that on 11. Also says a lot about his performance - mighty stats for a 'forward'.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 03, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
Kuyt has to make that many tackles because of his woeful touch!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on April 05, 2008, 11:25:11 AM
Gilberto? I can only assume you haven't really been following Arsenal all that closely. Arsene saw in the Brazilian what he noticed in Vieira, Henry, Pires etc - his time was done. Gilberto was living on borrowed time towards the end of last season despite his goal tally from penalties. His passing and tackling this year was of a man in serious decline and the invisible wall has now completely disappeared. Wenger brought him on recently for a decent spell in a game. His first pass was straight to the opposition. His second was a glorious through ball to no one. He'll not be here come August. Gilberto, like Lehmann, had become a liability. Gallas is a motivator who plays with his heart on his sleeve. He has scored against Chelsea and Utd this year and leads the side by example. Forget the Birmingham incident. In my book that showed how much he cared. Gallas has not publically criticised his teammates so don't fall into the trap of tabloid sensationalism. He made honest remarks about Walcott, more encouraging than anything.

And yet Gilberto still holds down his place in midfield and the vice captaincy for Brazil, and no attempt was made to move him on last summer. Wenger wouldn't stoop so low as to freeze a player out for not doing what he wants? Edu tells a different story. Gilberto's interview telling of his "surprise" at wenger's choice of Gallas as captain had nothing to do with it. please don't tell me you expected gilberto to hit the ground running coming on in a game when he's hardly played in 6 months? misplaced his first 2 passes - what a surprise. you're right about one thing though- he'll not be there come august but he'll be at a top club.

Who exactly does gallas motivate? we saw enough of a snapshot of his character against chelsea when he refuesed to challenge drogba in the air for the last half hour, costing arsenal their title aspirations. tony adams was spitting feathers in the studio after at gallas' lack of "intestinal fortitude" and told richard keys he'd love a go at marking drogba. In fact the rte panel openly laughed out loud when old bill asked them about gallas' strengths as a captain.

Almunia is a top-class shot stopper. Read the stats (or watch the games). Most of Arsenal goals against this year have been defensive errors.

The majority of goals conceded by any team are as a result of defensive errors ffs. It still has to get past the keeper. I've watched as many games as any gooner fan this season. Arguing that Almunia is good enough to be a top 4 keeper is laughable, absolutely laughable. how many premiership clubs would swap their keeper with wenger for the remainder of the season? derby? birmingham? maybe bolton as jussi is injured. the proof of the pudding will be in the summer when wenger will buy a number one of course. Basing arguments on stats is for those who cannot read a game themselves.

Wenger did not inherit Vieira, Gilberto, Campbell, Toure, Flamini etc.
You don't seem to grasp what Arsene and his side have done this season. We expected nothing due to the loss of quite a few of the Invincibles recently. However, he led the league for yonks, progressed to the QF of the champions' league and is still challenging on both fronts. This is not bad for a side with no middle. As for Gilberto again, you must be joking.

You're right - i don't seem to have grasped what wenger has done this season? Am i right in saying f**k all? we're talking about professional soccer in the richest league in the world and a manager with one of the largest stadia and budgets in the world.

If you want to, list the starting teams this weekend. List how much they cost. Arsenal would trail Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and I wouldn't be surprised if one or two more sides were more expensive to assemble.

I'm sure that's a comfort.

By the way - Adebayor demonstrated again on wednesday night how much he detests those pesky crosses and how poor he is in the air....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 05, 2008, 12:24:47 PM
Arsenal have Gilberto, Nicklas Bendtner, Armand Traore, Justin Hoyte and Theo Walcott in starting 11
Emmanuel Adebayor on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 06, 2008, 08:34:35 PM
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Arsene is looking more comfortable as the season draws to a close ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 09:44:02 AM
Fairly pessimistic about tonight. The two games in the last week won't have much of an impact on tonight if Liverpool play in the same manner - 'away' yet at home. If Liverpool, buoyed on by the home crowd (the best in Europe in terms of atmosphere bar Celtic), have a more gung-ho approach then Arsenal have a chance. Benitez knows exactly how to approach this game though. He's a bit of a master of the second legs.

I can see Wenger going with the one up front again in Adebayor. Van Persie shouldn't start, even if fit. Hoping he'll go for

Eboue - Toure - Gallas - Clichy
Walcott - Diaby - Fabregas- Flamini - Hleb
Adebayor

Options on the bench - Bendtner/Van Persie

More likely:

Toure - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy
Eboue - Fabregas- Flamini - Hleb
Van Persie
Adebayor

Liverpool, in the two games, seem to be suspect with high crossed  - Bendtner, Gallas, Toure and Adebayor have all connected fairly unchallenged.

Can Torres be contained again?


 

Beyond that options are fairly limited
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 08, 2008, 10:31:43 AM
Still think this game is going to penalties, Liverpool have the better keeper and wlll go through  :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on April 08, 2008, 10:55:32 AM
Still think this game is going to penalties, Liverpool have the better keeper and wlll go through  :'(

I don't know how you can say that az, given that -

Almunia is a top-class shot stopper. Read the stats (or watch the games). Most of Arsenal goals against this year have been defensive errors.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 11:06:17 AM
Almunia is an excellent shot-stopper and has a brillinat record with penalty shoot-outs (when he was the Carling Cup keeper). If it does go to penalties, I'd be confident Almunia would be the hero of the hour. Lehmann let 4 in out of 5 against Utd in the Cup final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 11:47:22 AM
Still think this game is going to penalties, Liverpool have the better keeper and wlll go through  :'(

I don't know how you can say that az, given that -

Almunia is a top-class shot stopper. Read the stats (or watch the games). Most of Arsenal goals against this year have been defensive errors.

i didn't say it Uladh. That was Dinny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on April 08, 2008, 11:52:30 AM

Sorry az - misrepresented you. heaven forbid i'd associate you with the views of a kildare man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 11:54:24 AM
Feckin' right. Although in fairness myself and Dinny are nearly singing off the saym hymnsheet when it comes to Munster Rugby at this stage. His new jersey is in the post :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 08, 2008, 12:10:31 PM
Uladh,

I don't have O'Neills faith in Almunia and think Reina is the better goalie. AZ do doubt is honoured to be mistaken for one of God's chosen people. Munster Rugby though will be ripped a new arse-hole this forthcoming Saturday by a side playing the kind of rugby Munster can only aspire to.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 12:14:28 PM
What's that Dinny? Ah sure we might let ye have the Magner's league again (if ye can avoid choking of course).

"Only play on Setanta, ye only play on Setanta!!"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 08, 2008, 01:45:29 PM
the only way we will win this one is if we score first. If we can get the lead it will be advantage arsenal as liverpool will have to come out and play a bit. as can be seen by my posts i am not a senderos fan, however he did a good enough job last week. Dont know will wenger throw caution to the wind and go with walcott. on the wing think he will go with diaby.
I would like to see us go 4-3-1-2

                                                   almunia
                                        eboue gallas toure clichy
                                       
                                            diaby cesc flamini
                                                   
                                                    hleb
                                              walcott adebayor
     
with van persie to come on and bentner in reserve

Also did anyone see that barcelona may want to off load Henry in the summer??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2008, 08:01:21 PM
YESSSSS

I was just telling the wife how crap Diaby was!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2008, 08:18:42 PM
Senderos really is crap.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on April 08, 2008, 09:13:56 PM
Senderos really is crap.
Oh oh........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 08, 2008, 09:37:08 PM
Nice. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
Brady gave fair analysis.

"Stonewall peno not given, debatable one given but that's football. Not a good night for Arsenal but a great night for football." Won't argue with that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 08, 2008, 09:55:37 PM
Brady gave fair analysis.

"Stonewall peno not given, debatable one given but that's football. Not a good night for Arsenal but a great night for football." Won't argue with that.

Yeah, difficult for Chippy on a night like tonight, being so close to the Arse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 08, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
Brady gave fair analysis.

"Stonewall peno not given, debatable one given but that's football. Not a good night for Arsenal but a great night for football." Won't argue with that.

Yeah, difficult for Chippy on a night like tonight, being so close to the Arse.
After getting all stroppy when they showed a piece about Wenger getting animated/frustrated on Saturday. Not taking another CL failure that well either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 08, 2008, 10:13:51 PM
Jaysus how can a manager like Wenger continue to play Senderos. He is the reason we are through tonight.

Surely Toure should have been in there with eboue rb and walcott/a.n. other on the right?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 10:34:31 PM
We're not a big team. But we're better than Spurs. That's enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 10:35:08 PM
I think the panel were unfair on Liam Brady tonight. They know the position he is in, and if they want him to continue as a member of their panel, they have a funny way of showing it. He was obviously hurting from an extremely brave performance coming up short, and to have to sit through Dunphy giggling like a schoolkid about Arsene being like John Cleese was, as he said, a stitch up. There was a serious point, which Brady tried to make, about Wenger getting frustrated at how things are transpiring towards the season's end, and Souness was being serious enough too. But Dunphy and the editors obviously went and said 'If Arsenal lose, we'll use this piece to show him losing it'. That's a stitch up, and Brady was right.

Hard luck tonight lads, but ye have nothing to be down about. That's another fabulous team, playing fabulous football, in the oven there. They are just not 'done' yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 10:38:39 PM
You have to credit Liverpool. There's something for that physical pressure on opposition that Arsenal neglect that's admirable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 09, 2008, 12:04:27 AM
5 16-Feb-08 A Manchester United L 0-4 (0-3)

2 L1 20-Feb-08 H Milan D 0-0 (0-0)  60,082
2 L2 04-Mar-08 A Milan W 2-0 (0-0) Fabregas 84; Adebayor 90 81,879  
QF L1 02-Apr-08 H Liverpool D 1-1 (1-1) Adebayor 23 60,041
QF L2 08-Apr-08 A Liverpool L 2-4 (1-1) Diaby 13; Adebayor 84


27 23-Feb-08 A Birmingham City D 2-2 (0-1) Walcott 50, 55 27,195
28 01-Mar-08 H Aston Villa D 1-1 (0-1) Bendtner 90 60,097
29 09-Mar-08 A Wigan Athletic D 0-0 (0-0)  19,676
30 15-Mar-08 H Middlesbrough D 1-1 (0-1) Toure 86 60,084
31 23-Mar-08 A Chelsea L 1-2 (0-0) Sagna 59 41,824
32 29-Mar-08 A Bolton Wanderers W 3-2 (0-2) Gallas 62; Van Persie 68p; Samuel(og) 91 22,431  
33 05-Apr-08 H Liverpool D 1-1 (0-1) Bendtner 54

Two wins in twelve games since Feb 11 win over Blackburn. God Arsenal play great football, but that statistic is shocking. All well and good passes completed, tackles made, etc. But the lack of squad has seriously hurt Arsenal at the Business end of the season (again).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on April 09, 2008, 12:16:43 AM
Have to say hard luck to arsenal. I dont support any of the top 4 but admire all of them for different reasons. Ye were the better team over all 3 games and just got done on huge mistakes by ref which is outside yer control. That was no peno tonight. Ive seen from 5 different angles and it not a peno in my opinion.

The piece on wenger was a skit, to show emotion is HUMAN and we all get frustrated. If I were arsenal fan or player you would feel shafted. People go on about mental resolve, in anfield and played all the football first 30mins that shows resolve then to 2-1 down and comeback again shows resolve. Are people blind can they not see and ADMIRE it. Both teams showed it. It was great to watch as a neutral but call a spade a spade. Was coming back from bolton with 10men not a huge show of mental toughness...........Arsenal were the better team over 2 legs but the best team doesnt always win.

Sometimes in defeat you learn your greatest lessons and wenger will do that and move on and ye'll be stronger for it. ;) Yee do need to buy and get rid of some and games like tonight make ut alot clearer. Fantastic game to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on April 09, 2008, 12:41:04 AM
We're not a big team. But we're better than Spurs. That's enough.

 :D

I think the white flag has officially been raised. If you are content to be better than the spuds and that is enough for all you goner fans then fair fecks to you, mission accomplished. ;D

Arsenal were sublime for thirty minutes tonight and then started to play it safe a bit, Liverpool were always going to have a few chances but they didnt deserve to win it in the manner they did.

Liverpool are very tough in the CL and they have every chance to progress to the final again but they are brutal defensively and that will ultimately cost them.

Arsne is a yappy b**tard, does he ever quit moaning at all at all?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 09, 2008, 12:42:54 AM
wenger has every right to be frustrated, never in a million yrs a penalty and comparing it to the hleb one in last game everyone who has half a clue about football can see that it wasnt.

great game of football and very very disappointed that we didnt win but glad to see theo has finally started to show what he can do...must be one of the quickest players in europe?

hopefully wenger can see now that senderos is terrible and has to go, hleb can be magic but gives the ball away easily and is just not consistent enough so probably has to go aswell!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 09, 2008, 12:46:44 AM
We're not a big team. But we're better than Spurs. That's enough.
Liverpool are very tough in the CL and they have every chance to progress to the final again but they are brutal defensively and that will ultimately cost them.

Liverpool have scored more goals than Arsenal this season in all competitions. Not bad for such an alleged "defensive" side compared to an attacking one.

The two teams play in different styles but it would be incorrect to label Liverpool defensive.

Oops my bad. You said brutal defensively rather than brutall defensive. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 09, 2008, 01:31:03 AM
I think the panel were unfair on Liam Brady tonight. They know the position he is in, and if they want him to continue as a member of their panel, they have a funny way of showing it. He was obviously hurting from an extremely brave performance coming up short, and to have to sit through Dunphy giggling like a schoolkid about Arsene being like John Cleese was, as he said, a stitch up. There was a serious point, which Brady tried to make, about Wenger getting frustrated at how things are transpiring towards the season's end, and Souness was being serious enough too. But Dunphy and the editors obviously went and said 'If Arsenal lose, we'll use this piece to show him losing it'. That's a stitch up, and Brady was right.
I'd agree with most of that. But it's not so much that it was unfair on Brady it was pure and utter Podge and Rodge disrespect with giggling at a manager going through all the intense emotions on the sidelines and pontificate that he's losing it.
Dunphy is an embarrassment to the entire RTE sports dept.
If I want to be entertained by sarcastic abuse I can watch Podge and Rodge.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 09, 2008, 04:35:04 AM
Lasy year when Chelsea drew 1-1 at the Erimrates to signal the end of Chelsea's championship chances, the Arsenal fans sang 'LIVERPOOL' to acclaim the Scousers CL victory over Chelsea. It's funny how these things can swing round.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stevo-08 on April 09, 2008, 09:33:19 AM
Liverpool are very tough in the CL and they have every chance to progress to the final again but they are brutal defensively and that will ultimately cost them.


The most clean sheets in PL (15) & 25 goals conceded, with only man utd & chelsea conceding fewer. They've let in a few soft goals recently but hardly grounds to call them brutal defensively!!!

Regarding brady, dunphy & souness. Agree with most posters that brady was right to feel wenger was shafted. Dunphy is a wind up merchant, plain & simple. And a complete hypocrite also - Ridiculing wenger when only a few months ago he was praising him from the rooftops.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 09, 2008, 09:47:42 AM
Dunphy always has the grain of a point, but as I've said before he is not big on consistent viewpoints, to say the least. I'd say the rooms in his house get a new colour of paint every week.

Anyway, his stance on Wenger now is based on his call in January that Wenger needed to strengthen the depth of his squad. It was a good shout, but I would have thought a fairly obvious one, even if Wenger is not a manager who splashes cash at the drop of a hat. If Eduardo and Rosicky hadn't been injured, this would probably not be an issue, but injuries are part and parcel of life at the top level. But now that Dunphy has been proved right, he is going on, and on, and on, and on about it, and the remarks last night were just silly stuff. I felt it was unfair on Brady because Brady, don't forget, works for Wenger at Arsenal. If he is associated with comments or skits like that, it puts him in a very compromising position with Wenger. I felt he was spot on to blow the lid to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 09, 2008, 09:55:10 AM
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If Eduardo and Rosicky hadn't been injured

And Sagna too.  Just goes to show the Arsenal squad is too small to win without being lucky (which they're not).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2008, 09:58:13 AM
Lasy year when Chelsea drew 1-1 at the Erimrates to signal the end of Chelsea's championship chances, the Arsenal fans sang 'LIVERPOOL' to acclaim the Scousers CL victory over Chelsea. It's funny how these things can swing round.

So, in the hours that follow Chelsea's victory in the quarter finals of the CL you prefer to write in the Arsenal thread about some nondescript fan bantering at half four in the morning rather than contribute to the Chelsea thread whatsoever.

And who says Chelsea fans are plastic?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 09, 2008, 10:31:31 AM
How can we and everybody else see how poor Senseros is? I know Wenger has ahem poor eyesight but even Ray Charles can see how brutal Senderos is.......

Ah well, this season could well be the making of this Arsenal side, played some fantastic football and been so young can only learn from the these defeats...

Life could be worse, you could be a spud....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2008, 10:38:15 AM
Cygan, Senderos, Luzhny, Stephanovs ....what was the name of the other eejit....began with L I think.

Wenger has bought some bloody brillant defenders in his time....

One moment of madness from Toure cost us.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stevo-08 on April 09, 2008, 10:48:04 AM
or as souness said last night at HT: "30 minutes of brilliance wiped out by one moment of dopiness". Liverpool dont score from corners, it just doesnt happen - but that was an absolute gift.

couldnt believe wenger kept senderos on. as someone else said, toure should have been moved into cb and eboue at rb with walcott on. obviously the flamini injury restricted his options but senderos was a complete liability for the entire game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 09, 2008, 10:50:39 AM
it was encapsulated in one moment for me. When Torres received the ball in the penalty area, Senderos was touch tight. When Torres executed a fairly standard turn, Senderos was probably 2 yards away. That's brutal defending from a centre half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 09, 2008, 10:57:55 AM
Have to say I was gutted last night for Arsenal and being a Blackburn fan I had no particular allegiance to either side. Ultimately it was the strength in depth that has cost Arsenal this season. Eduardo, VP, Sagna, Toure, Eboue ( who has been shite this past few weeks and I think is a FB or nothing), Rosicky. When you're missing that calibre of player for a large chunk of the season it is going to cost you. They have played some amazing football this year and to be honest I think that they have probably over achieved given the injuries they have had because let's face it, United would not be in the position they are in had Ronaldo played the same amount of games as VP this year.

Anyway I think Wenger's main problem to sort out for next year is his defence. Toure and Gallas are the only decent Centre Halves they have and if one is injured or needs a rest Senderos is just not up to the standard as he will make mistakes at the wrong time. Because of this both have looked tired coming to the end of the season and they need a real backup to keep fresh for the season. If he can keep the rest of the squad together then I fancy Arsenal for a Double Next year! Blackburn for the Cup though ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 09, 2008, 11:05:33 AM
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United would not be in the position they are in had Ronaldo played the same amount of games as VP this year

What kind of bollox statement is that.  Every team has a player that is seen as their main man, and RVP is not the main man at Arsenal anyway.  He spends more time in police stations and the treatment table than he does on the pitch.  Sure Liverpool would be nowhere without Torres this season, as would Arsenal without Fabregas/Adebayor!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 09, 2008, 01:57:18 PM
totally gutted today. But the plain truth is we need a few players to strengthen the squad. IMO we need a goalkeeper, a centre back, a combative centre midfield and right sided midfielder.Here is the list of the arsenal squad. There is some that are surplus to requirement at the club. Clear them out and buy in experienced players in these postions and we will challenge next year
here is my thoughts on the present squad
1.   Jens Lehmann
2.   Abou Diaby - i have hopes for him, although at this stage he needs to be becoming a viera like player(please god as good)
3.   Bacary Sagna- great first season
4.   Cesc Fabregas - is now world class
5.    Kolo Toure - lets keep him in the centre
6.    Philippe Senderos
7.    Tomas Rosicky- needs to stay injury free - but he is not as good as i had hoped he would be
9.     Eduardo- will be like a new player next year all being well
10.    William Gallas- less spoiled brat and more leadership like last night
11.    Robin Van Persie- needs a full season, a good euro 08 will put him in good shape
13.    Alexander Hleb- had a good season, although off the boil now. need to sort his head out is he staying or leaving
15.    Denilson- must become the player he has the potential to be
16.    Mathieu Flamini- the same as this year hopefully
17.    Alexandre Song- i think he can offer something, he has a great African cup
19.    Gilberto
20.    Johan Djourou - keep him as a back up player,he is versatile
21.    Lukasz Fabianski- i think can become number 1 but defo number 2 if we we off load
22.    Gael Clichy-needs not to overplay the ball, but developing well
24.    Manuel Almunia- i would get rid of him
25.    Emmanuel Adebayor- more of the same but maybe work on his offside trap?
26.    Nicklas Bendtner - keep for another year
27.    Emmanuel Eboue-
30.    Armand Traore- needs to follow clichys development
31.    Justin Hoyte
32.    Theo Walcott- needs to start becoming the player he has the potiental to be
         Kerrea Gilbert         
                Mark Randall- dont know enough about him yet?
  
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 09, 2008, 05:20:40 PM
When it is said that Wenger should get out his cheque book, does it mean that the Board had already provided cash for signings?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 09, 2008, 06:42:42 PM
Lasy year when Chelsea drew 1-1 at the Erimrates to signal the end of Chelsea's championship chances, the Arsenal fans sang 'LIVERPOOL' to acclaim the Scousers CL victory over Chelsea. It's funny how these things can swing round.

So, in the hours that follow Chelsea's victory in the quarter finals of the CL you prefer to write in the Arsenal thread about some nondescript fan bantering at half four in the morning rather than contribute to the Chelsea thread whatsoever.

And who says Chelsea fans are plastic?


So it's ok for an Arsenal fan on here to post a personal insult about myself, but it's not ok for me to come and give a wee bit back?

Unfortuantely I was at work right through the night, so had very little time to contribute to the Chelsea thread on a game of which there is little to debate. Hopefully I'll find time to populate it tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 09, 2008, 07:18:30 PM
When it is said that Wenger should get out his cheque book, does it mean that the Board had already provided cash for signings?

They have always maintained the money is there should he want it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2008, 07:55:09 PM
I'm still a bit touchy Norf!

Great viewing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjpkz_CZs8M
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2008, 05:22:52 PM
Flamini out for 3 weeks. Lehmann on the warpath. Anyone else thing Utd are going to twist the dagger in on Sunday?

I can see Walcott and Van Persie up front on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 10, 2008, 05:46:50 PM
Flamini out for 3 weeks. Lehmann on the warpath. Anyone else thing Utd are going to twist the dagger in on Sunday?

I can see Walcott and Van Persie up front on Sunday.

nah, he will go with van persie and adebayor with walcot on the wing. senderos will get dropped and eboue will go to full back and toure to the centre
He will go with adebayor because of the aerial threat with ferdinand & vidic hopefully out!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 10, 2008, 06:18:21 PM
Should have went that way on Tuesday. Ferdinand just cut his foot last night in a separate injury and should be fit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2008, 06:29:08 PM
I think Adebayor might be benched for the simple reason that with 5 games left he'll try something different. For some reason he's persisting with Eboue in midfield. Diaby has played his way in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 10, 2008, 10:54:58 PM
hopefully he'll send senderos on the euro star to france on a one way ticket and ensure he doesnt come back...theo deserves his start and van persie didnt look anywhere near fit the other night so wil be interesting to see how he pulled up after the game...flamini will be massive loss, our best player this yr and deserves his big contract which i think he will get..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2008, 11:03:41 PM
Senderos is the sort of fellow who'll do a fine job for an average team. He actually stars for Switzerland. However, in order to play the type of game Arsenal do, you cannot have lads like him f**king about - you know when he plays he'll make at least two errors.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 13, 2008, 09:49:08 PM
Lads, its gone very quiet in here! Anyway look at the bright side Arsenal are out of all competitions, so this is the perfect opportunity for them to give the young lads at the club a run!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on April 13, 2008, 10:52:41 PM
The gonners are finished for yet another year, another champions league nightmare only sets up another loss fuelled by a penalty, the gonners are almost becoming the lovable losers of the premiership/champions league. The spuds better look out, the arse look to be trying to outdo them in the oveable losers bracket.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 13, 2008, 11:33:28 PM
The gonners are finished for yet another year, another champions league nightmare only sets up another loss fuelled by a penalty, the gonners are almost becoming the lovable losers of the premiership/champions league. The spuds better look out, the arse look to be trying to outdo them in the oveable losers bracket.
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Look there are feck all clubs/fans who have sympathy for Arsenal. Sympathy is usually consigned to relegation battle clubs, And the Arse are light years away from that. If anything there is always a sense of pleasure for rivals to see their peers going through a bad patch.

Wenger has a big job ahead over the summer, in holding onto some of his gems, culling the herd of unwanted players and purchasing some quality as well as experience. I suppose Wenger has been a victim of the over-achievement of this group earlier in the season that gave supporters, players and the Media false hope. I do believe that the Gunners have been unlucky. But you'll often find being unlucky follows inexperience, hot heads, youth, belief, fear, Paranoia, weak mindset, etc.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 14, 2008, 01:59:39 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A34604039 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A34604039)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 15, 2008, 03:47:35 PM
looks like they are moving on from it all
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 15, 2008, 04:32:33 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Its the only time I've seen anyone connected with the Goons in an animated state
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2008, 10:05:43 AM
A decent performance on Sunday. A little rub of the green and Arsenal could've taken the three points (thanks to Ferdinand's clanger). However, a decent season. We expected little and exceeded all expectations. Remarkably, if Arsenal take 12 points in their last 4 games, they'll end up with 80-odd points. Amazing what it takes to win the title. Even last week, with Arsenal more or less out of it, they'd only lost 2 league games all season. It has got to the stage when a draw is a disastrous result for the big three.

Anyone see Archer's article in the IN today about Arsenal? A 12-year old Liverpool fan must've written it for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2008, 10:18:17 AM
Good post O'Neill, agree with most of that. Conversely expectations will be very high for next season, personally would like to see Wenger sign a quality centre-half, another goalie and 2 holding mid-fielders.

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Anyone see Archer's article in the IN today about Arsenal? A 12-year old Liverpool fan must've written it for him.

Can this be posted up?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 16, 2008, 01:17:07 PM
perhaps another raid on chelsea, ben haim seems to be unhappy there and although not world class is better than senderos (then again that would not be hard), is up to premier league speed. Him along with another great centre half would leave us with 5 very good centre halfs. toure, gallas & djouru & 2 new.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 16, 2008, 01:27:54 PM
Amazing what it takes to win the title. Even last week, with Arsenal more or less out of it, they'd only lost 2 league games all season. It has got to the stage when a draw is a disastrous result for the big three.


Yip. I was just thinking the same a few days back. A few years back you would get a bit of jip at work for losing games. These days if you draw, it's time to hide!
Arsenal's unbeatables, and Jose's double champions have raised the bar for United. I think Ferguson has come along and to be fair has met the challange. However in my opinion what it has done, is that it has improved English teams performance in Europe. Four finals in the last four years suggests that, and perhaps this is what ultimately may provide the platform for United to be better in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 16, 2008, 01:58:33 PM

Anyone see Archer's article in the IN today about Arsenal? A 12-year old Liverpool fan must've written it for him.

I did alright, it was pretty and juvenile and had a large dose of being wise after the event. It belonged in the "Total tool Journalists" thread........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 19, 2008, 11:43:54 AM
A decent performance on Sunday. A little rub of the green and Arsenal could've taken the three points (thanks to Ferdinand's clanger). However, a decent season. We expected little and exceeded all expectations. Remarkably, if Arsenal take 12 points in their last 4 games, they'll end up with 80-odd points. Amazing what it takes to win the title. Even last week, with Arsenal more or less out of it, they'd only lost 2 league games all season. It has got to the stage when a draw is a disastrous result for the big three.

Anyone see Archer's article in the IN today about Arsenal? A 12-year old Liverpool fan must've written it for him.

Ah yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. So much for not losing games. Arsenal have only won 2 in your last 13. That is terrible form and you can hide behind how much of a remarkable season (Bull Sh*t) all you like, but the reality is that when Arsenal came to the "Business" end of the season, Arsenal faded. All the big Games Against Liverpool, Man u, Chelsea and even the Spuds in the League Cup, were put down to bad luck, bad refereeing, bad tackles, etc. You say your expectations were exceeded. Not from the posts i've seem over the last couple of months. (And rightly so Expectations should be high for an established top three club such as Arsenal). And yes as you say it will be remarkable if Arsenal end up with 12 points from their last 4 games. Actually they should do it now the pressure of having anything to win is off!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2008, 07:30:58 PM
I apologise to you for not being devastated at Arsenal's demise. I also apologise that I said Arsenal had a decent season as decent means remarkable to you.

From your recent posts you seem to be happy to speak after the event, merrily reveling in Arsenal's poor form. Were you not loved?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 20, 2008, 12:24:49 AM
Ah no ONeill,  I apologise, I did realise you were not devistated with Arsenals demise. Anyway, the reality is that Arsenal played some of the Best football untill mid-february, to the envy of every other club in the Premier League. There was a level of cockiness to Arsenal and truthfully they looked unbeatable. This caused amongst the other fans the Steve Davis syndrome (where some one is so good you want to see them lose). And remarkably over the last couple of weeks this happened, much to the Happiness of other rivals, it's the way it goes, Sorry (kinda don't mean it). My recent post you refer to just point to Arsenals recent form. Yes i revelled in their demise, but that is because they were shit hot at the begining of the season. The Biggest insult to Arsenal this season was Fergie giving his (Belittling) words of comfort to Wenger after beating them last week. Arsenal are a top club who (by thier high recent standards are disappointingly) are going to finish 3rd in the league (probably on 80ish points as you said), lost 4-0 to the FA Cup to Man Ure, Lost to the Spuds 6-2 on AGG in LC and lost to Scouse 5-3 on AGG in CL. They have not won anything in 3 years, but Wenger is still the man because we still hate him and the day we begin to like him will be the end.

PS. I was cheering for the Arse last week and also i was never loved.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 22, 2008, 12:19:01 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 22, 2008, 11:46:32 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on April 23, 2008, 12:06:38 AM
 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on April 23, 2008, 12:10:14 AM
That is class! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on April 23, 2008, 12:12:39 AM
Indeed, it is very good but it is a page old. An Fear Rua's doesn't work anymore.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2008, 12:25:11 AM
Good to see the lads enjoying themselves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 24, 2008, 04:57:44 PM
from sky.com

Internazionale coach Roberto Mancini has confirmed Arsenal ace Alexander Hleb is one of his summer transfer targets.
Hleb has been continually linked with a possible summer switch to Inter in the last few months, after reports emerged that the Belarus midfielder and an agent had met with Inter officials last month.
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has spoken of his fears of losing the talented midfielder, with Hleb having just two years to run on his current contract at Emirates Stadium.
Inter boss Roberto Mancini is a big admirer of Hleb and he says the Arsenal man, along with Genoa's Abdoulay Konko and Udinese's Gokhan Inler, are on his transfer wish-list.
Targets
"We have already spoken about the players we would like to sign," Mancini told the Corriere dello Sport.
"We are interested in Hleb, Inler and Konko."
Wenger admitted he is keen to keep hold of his best players, but he could face a major fight to hang onto Hleb, who will miss Arsenal's last three games of the season through suspension.
No problems
Meanwhile, Mancini has played down reports of unrest between himself and Inter president Massimo Moratti.
Mancini's position at the club has been the subject of debate with reports suggesting Inter have lined up a move for former Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho to replace him at Giuseppe Meazza.
However, Mancini has played down the rumours and insists he has no problem with Moratti.
"Between me and Moratti there are no problems and everything is quiet," added Mancini.


hope he doesn't go. he has been one of our best players this year
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 24, 2008, 06:37:13 PM
Re the above regarding Hleb. Chelsea went through this with Robben last year and the Real president shouting from the roof tops about buying him.

Is this not tapping up??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2008, 06:47:06 PM
I'm a massive fan of Hleb. He's a throwback to the talented played at school who used to have the ball stuck to his foot as if it was glued there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 24, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
i have said it before that hleb is a good player but not good enough, cannot be counted upon to do it in the big games...he'll be a big miss if he does go but wont be too worried to be honest as i think rosicky is twice the player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2008, 11:16:41 PM
Any chance of editing the thread title Dinny in recognition of our champions (http://www.arsenal.com/matchreport.asp?thisNav=fixtures&fxid=325777)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 25, 2008, 10:15:35 AM
i have said it before that hleb is a good player but not good enough, cannot be counted upon to do it in the big games...he'll be a big miss if he does go but wont be too worried to be honest as i think rosicky is twice the player

the problem i have  with rosicky is he spends more time on the treatment table than on the field.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 28, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
I wonder will there be an announcement on whether flamini has signed or not today? Normal practice seems to be on the day of a game to do it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2008, 10:02:29 PM
6-2. Should've been 16-2.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2008, 12:03:34 AM
Man Utd 0 West Ham 0
Arsenal 2 Everton 1
Newcastle 1 Chelsea o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpSFExhRdBA
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on April 29, 2008, 11:49:45 AM
Man Utd 0 West Ham 0
Arsenal 2 Everton 1
Newcastle 1 Chelsea o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpSFExhRdBA

Chelsea O 1 Bolton
Arsenal 2 Sunderland 0
Wigan 1 Man Utd 0

Champions!!!!!!! This is a Carlsberg Moment!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 01, 2008, 09:38:46 AM
Arsenal MD has fucked off, is it all falling apart? , hleb, flamini want out, wengers lost the plot........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2008, 09:42:40 AM
What's this about AFR?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 01, 2008, 09:45:38 AM
What's this about AFR?

just broke on sky sports that the Managing Director has quit, loves the club we have grown as a business etc . Looks ripe for a take over at the grove
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2008, 09:47:14 AM
Will Dein try and move back in? I read an interview about him recently, it sounded like he'd go back in the morning.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 01, 2008, 09:49:37 AM
i belive theres a big russian billionaire lurking in the background, would be funny to watch them eat humble pie after all this time looking down their noses at chelsea
Title: Looks like Flamini is heading for Italy
Post by: Uladh on May 01, 2008, 11:16:04 AM

http://english.gazzetta.it/Football/Primo_Piano/2008/04_Aprile/25/flamini.shtml
Title: Flamini signed for milan.
Post by: Puckoon on May 05, 2008, 05:56:36 PM
Must have been the food  he didnt like.  :-\

Any thoughts on who could do a job for us now that flamini is gone?
Title: Re: Flamini signed for milan.
Post by: Uladh on May 05, 2008, 09:05:43 PM
Must have been the food  he didnt like.  :-\

Or the paucity of medals?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 10:19:09 AM
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Or the paucity of medals?

As if that matters anymore   ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 11:45:44 AM

Of course not. as o'neill says, arsenal fans aren't interested in trophies but rather the joy of the exhuberant football arsene has his team playing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 11:49:14 AM
Money my friend is all that matters, you are as delusional as the aveage Liverpool supporter if you think any professional footballer signs for a team to win trophies...is that why Lucas Neill joined the Hammers??  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 11:54:23 AM

in all seriousness, i would suggest that for the majority of players, if the money is there or there abouts then it'd come down to potential for silverware. there are obvious exceptions in the likes of neil.

are you suggesting there is less chance of flamini picking up medals next year than if he'd stayed with the goons?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 06, 2008, 11:56:56 AM
I'd sort of agree with Uladh here. I think if the money is there or thereabouts, then the chance of winning stuff, and therefore ensuring another bumper payday in the next contract, would certainly be a factor.

But if the money from a lesser team is stupid money, then a lot of players will take the easy pay day with no expectations, no doubt about it.

And then you'll have the greedy f*ckers who almost crash their cars at 'only' getting £60k a week rather than £65.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 11:57:40 AM
Money my friend is all that matters, you are as delusional as the aveage Liverpool supporter if you think any professional footballer signs for a team to win trophies...is that why Lucas Neill joined the Hammers??  ::)

why do players sign for arsenal then? Its definately not money as there is a salary cap in place and its not to win trophys either. Im baffled to tell ya the truth
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 12:00:15 PM

Most of them sign straight from some continental team's academy so they're on fcuk all to start with
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:12:05 PM
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in all seriousness, i would suggest that for the majority of players, if the money is there or there abouts then it'd come down to potential for silverware. there are obvious exceptions in the likes of neil.

Yes but in all fairness things aren't going to be there or there abouts, they'll just use one teams offer as leverage until they get the best deal.  And to answer your other question Flamini would have a better chance to win medals with Arsenal than Milan, Milan will just about squeeze into the Champions League, were completely outplayed by Arsenal in the 2nd round and are very much an aging side, it's hard to see how Flamini will improve them or how they will challenge in the Serie A next year. Even the most blinded Man U fan will have to agree that up until Feb Arsenal were the best side in the premiership. Eduardo's leg break was the catalyst for a very bad run of form/luck where Arsenal's lack of squad dept was crucial and Arsenal couldn't turn the tide. The future is very bright for this Arsenal side and Flamini will find out as did Anelka, Cole, Henry, Reyes, Wiltord, Pires that you don't become a better player by leaving Arsenal but you do by joining and staying at Arsenal.

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why do players sign for arsenal then? Its definately not money as there is a salary cap in place and its not to win trophys either. Im baffled to tell ya the truth

You're not the only one....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 12:26:10 PM
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in all seriousness, i would suggest that for the majority of players, if the money is there or there abouts then it'd come down to potential for silverware. there are obvious exceptions in the likes of neil.

Yes but in all fairness things aren't going to be there or there abouts, they'll just use one teams offer as leverage until they get the best deal.  And to answer your other question Flamini would have a better chance to win medals with Arsenal than Milan, Milan will just about squeeze into the Champions League, were completely outplayed by Arsenal in the 2nd round and are very much an aging side, it's hard to see how Flamini will improve them or how they will challenge in the Serie A next year. Even the most blinded Man U fan will have to agree that up until Feb Arsenal were the best side in the premiership. Eduardo's leg break was the catalyst for a very bad run of form/luck where Arsenal's lack of squad dept was crucial and Arsenal couldn't turn the tide. The future is very bright for this Arsenal side and Flamini will find out as did Anelka, Cole, Henry, Reyes, Wiltord, Pires that you don't become a better player by leaving Arsenal but you do by joining and staying at Arsenal.

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why do players sign for arsenal then? Its definately not money as there is a salary cap in place and its not to win trophys either. Im baffled to tell ya the truth

You're not the only one....

are anelka and cole not challenging for the title this year and in a champions league final? better for leaving arsenal, me thinks yes
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:31:33 PM
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are anelka and cole not challenging for the title this year and in a champions league final? better for leaving arsenal, me thinks yes

Are they better players? They might be better rewarded but Cole for example has gone from being the best left-back in England to a player who will struggle to get his England place and is probably the least popular footballer in the premeirship.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
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are anelka and cole not challenging for the title this year and in a champions league final? better for leaving arsenal, me thinks yes

Are they better players? They might be better rewarded but Cole for example has gone from being the best left-back in England to a player who will struggle to get his England place and is probably the least popular footballer in the premeirship.

If they win the CL  i think they will count themselves better players yes. As for being unpopular dont think he will mind when he picks up that pay check every week. he is still the best LB in england though I hate to say it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:44:04 PM
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he is still the best LB in england though I hate to say it.

Not a chance Clichy or Evra any day...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 12:46:27 PM
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he is still the best LB in england though I hate to say it.

Not a chance Clichy or Evra any day...

sorry mate put that the wrong way , he is the best english LB in the country. Clichy is on a par with nhim though evra the hateful tr**p is the best in the prem IMO. watch out for Insua from LFC, lad is a talent
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
What about players that have improved after leaving Arsenal...Bentley and Sidwell  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2008, 02:30:45 PM
Not concerned at all at Flamini leaving. In terms of workrate, it was fantastic this year but that is replaceable. He was probably the least talented of our midfielders. He's had one good season - last year he on the verge of being farmed out to Birmingham and I think he naver forgave AW for that. I'm more concerned at Hleb possibily leaving.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 03:11:34 PM
Not concerned at all at Flamini leaving. In terms of workrate, it was fantastic this year but that is replaceable. He was probably the least talented of our midfielders.

Unless, of course, you consider the ability to tackle, win possession and shield your defence a talent...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 06, 2008, 04:39:16 PM
Not concerned at all at Flamini leaving. In terms of workrate, it was fantastic this year but that is replaceable. He was probably the least talented of our midfielders. He's had one good season - last year he on the verge of being farmed out to Birmingham and I think he naver forgave AW for that. I'm more concerned at Hleb possibily leaving.

I can not agree with you totally o neill about flamini. True enough up to this year i would not have rated him very highly and indeed he was not even getting a game because gilberto was playing very well. However this year he went up in my estimation and had developed a great partnership with fabregas. He bossed the midfield in a number of games and with gilberto on the decline it is imperative that we buy a proven tackler in midfield. In a year or so denilson will be ready to slot into this position but we definately need someone for now.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2008, 06:46:20 PM


I can not agree with you totally o neill about flamini. True enough up to this year i would not have rated him very highly and indeed he was not even getting a game because gilberto was playing very well. However this year he went up in my estimation and had developed a great partnership with fabregas. He bossed the midfield in a number of games and with gilberto on the decline it is imperative that we buy a proven tackler in midfield. In a year or so denilson will be ready to slot into this position but we definately need someone for now.


Whilst there's no doubt that he had his best year, there are a few players out there who can do what he offered - Milan now have 3 in midfield! Flamini played behind Fabregas/Hleb/Rosicky/Van Perise who were keeping possession like schoolyard bullies although he had a habit of playing well against the big boys. Yes, there's no one at the club who can do that role right now but I fully expect AW to beef up all areas this summer. I'd be quite excited by the Flamini replacement as I feel we'll get a better model. I honestly believe he'll struggle to nail a starting place at Milan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on May 06, 2008, 10:22:23 PM
i think he'll struggle too, the 70grand a week is only thing he went for..not sure who will replace him..heard rumours of gareth barry but not sure if hes up to the standard! ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 06, 2008, 11:42:56 PM
Flamini was fantastic this season, could maybe even have made the team of the year.  To replace him properly with an established defensive midfielder that can also play a bit would cost in excess of £15million (Mascherano and Hargreaves went for at least this amount).  His move has also damaged Arsenal's reputation a lot and has contributed to rumours about the likes of Farbregas and Hleb leaving.  I can't believe Wenger left it so long to offer him a contact.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2008, 12:00:23 AM
Flamini was correct in his decision. He realised that his stock is highest right now, and probably will not enjoy the same market value again. Arsenal cannot compete with Milan and Madrid if a player decides he really wants to go and play at the biggest clubs, unless AW works his magic. Wenger will always hold on to the players he knows he cannot do without - Vieira, Henry, Bergkamp etc stayed at Arsenal at their peak despite being heavily courted every summer. That was down to Arsene's power of persuasion. I get the feeling he would like to have kept Flamini but is not overly worried.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 07, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
What exactly is the wage structure at Arsenal like? Who is top earner? Thought with the new stadium and all Arsenal could pay what's needed for top players these days. Unbelievable that during a hugely successful season, until a month or so ago, Hleb and Flamini could be allowed to drift to the end of their contracts. Bad management or questionable characters involved, I'd say the latter with agents looking for top dollar.
Agree with O'Neill though, can see Flamini becoming a squad player at AC, nothing more.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 08, 2008, 11:59:42 AM
Hleb and Flamini could be allowed to drift to the end of their contracts. Bad management or questionable characters involved, I'd say the latter with agents looking for top dollar.
Hleb is still under contract  for 2 more years. It is a buy out clause that inter are trying to use to get him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on May 08, 2008, 02:43:43 PM
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What exactly is the wage structure at Arsenal like? Who is top earner?

Flamini was offered £55k a week to stay right?   Wenger then said he could not offer more due to their wage structure?  Surely you'll need to pay the likes of Fabregas more then £55k a week when his contract comes up?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 08, 2008, 08:11:13 PM
Hleb and Flamini could be allowed to drift to the end of their contracts. Bad management or questionable characters involved, I'd say the latter with agents looking for top dollar.
Hleb is still under contract  for 2 more years. It is a buy out clause that inter are trying to use to get him.

Ah I see. Still that's the type of stipulations you get at smaller clubs if that's the case. Surprising here. Arsene has a bit of a go at whoever was conducting Arsenal's contract dealings in the papers today. Doesn't seem happy, not only with the wage cap, but how the dealings were handled.
"It is a problem, the salaries on offer, but we did not master this situation because when a player is out of contract he can sign where he wants"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on May 09, 2008, 01:05:27 PM
55 grand is the limit that wenger will apparently go to in paying players but i think he broke it for campbell who came on a free, henry who got 90grand and maybe vieira. i think cesc is probably on more than 55 cos wenger can build a team around him, i personally think its ridiculous that there is a wage limit in a club the size of arsenal because it will limit the number of world class players we can sign (all will be looking 70grand+ per week)

agree that flamini will probably be a bit-part player at the san siro and would have been happier to lose Hleb than him!

the first man out the door after next weekend should and hopefully will be senderos, hes just not up to the standard! also wonder who wenger will by as goalkeeper to replace the mad german...still have to see more of fabianski and almunia is only goin to last another season or two!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 09, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
I would love to see them sign Micah richards. It would give us cover at right back and him and toure in the centre would be great.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 09, 2008, 01:20:46 PM
agree that flamini will probably be a bit-part player at the san siro and would have been happier to lose Hleb than him!

Flamini will probably be a regular at Milan next season. Gattuso is off to Bayern Munich apparently.

Hleb may soon be following Flamini out the door if his agent has his way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 11, 2008, 11:08:15 PM
83 points. Didn't see that coming last August. Although that's a plus, it's not often you hit that amount of points and a club like Arsenal need to make it count. Hard to believe that despite losing only 3 times in the league, Arsenal were more or less out of it by late March. The transfer market will be crucial this summer, with a player similar to Flamini needed as well as a season injury free for Van Persie, Eduardo and Rosicky. Walcott has improved as the season progressed. The back four of Clichy, Toure, Gallas and Sagna is top class (as well as Song), although the cover is rather dubious. In Walcott, Rosicky, Fabregas, Hleb, Diaby and Denilson is impressive but needs steel. Adebayor, Van Persie and Bendtner (with Eduardo) has goals in it

With 83 points, the league would have been won in 2003, 2001, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996. All that says is that the bar has been raised.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on May 11, 2008, 11:14:01 PM
Saw Wenger on Arsenal TV being interviewed on a question and answer session. He seemed happy with this season and talked about how clubs who moved to new stadiums took a while to settle into them. He seemed pretty confident about the years ahead. I'd say Arsenal would be a good bet for next years Championship.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 13, 2008, 09:07:47 PM
New home shirt apparently

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 14, 2008, 11:59:03 AM
Jaysus Gab, you're mad into the new kits. Are you some sort of fashion icon or something? :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 14, 2008, 03:17:13 PM
As long as they're commercially produced in Leprechaun size, Gab is the main man for style.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 19, 2008, 01:54:14 PM
Premier League - Arsenal in talks with Aquilani
Eurosport - Mon, 19 May 13:46:00 2008

Arsenal are holding talks with Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani, according to the Italy international's agent.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is reportedly keen on recruiting the highly-rated 23-year-old in a bid to fill the gap left following Mathieu Flamini's departure to Milan.

And following comments from Aquilani's agent, Vincenzo Morabito, there appears to be some substance to those reports.

Morabito told Italia Uno: "Aquilani is speaking to Arsenal. We will have to see if Roma will be able to match his demands."

The Rome-born midfielder has enjoyed a solid season at the Stadio Olimpico, playing a major role in the Giallorossi's title bid - which they sustained until the final day of the season - as well as contributing to runs to the quarter-final of the Champions League and the final of the Coppa Italia, which they will play against Inter at the weekend.

Aquilani made 28 appearances in total for Roma this season, scoring four times. He has been capped by Italy four times.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 19, 2008, 04:42:23 PM
i see flamini wont be partaking in champions league football next season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 19, 2008, 04:46:07 PM
Premier League - Arsenal in talks with Aquilani
Eurosport - Mon, 19 May 13:46:00 2008

Arsenal are holding talks with Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani, according to the Italy international's agent.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is reportedly keen on recruiting the highly-rated 23-year-old in a bid to fill the gap left following Mathieu Flamini's departure to Milan.

And following comments from Aquilani's agent, Vincenzo Morabito, there appears to be some substance to those reports.

Morabito told Italia Uno: "Aquilani is speaking to Arsenal. We will have to see if Roma will be able to match his demands."

The Rome-born midfielder has enjoyed a solid season at the Stadio Olimpico, playing a major role in the Giallorossi's title bid - which they sustained until the final day of the season - as well as contributing to runs to the quarter-final of the Champions League and the final of the Coppa Italia, which they will play against Inter at the weekend.

Aquilani made 28 appearances in total for Roma this season, scoring four times. He has been capped by Italy four times.



i would rather see them get makoun from lille
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 20, 2008, 09:07:08 AM
Anyone else watch the Cesc Fabregas Show, cringeworthy TV, felt embarrassed for the lad. This however I like..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=anwlpTgbQTE (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=anwlpTgbQTE)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 21, 2008, 12:46:06 PM
from sky.com

Arsenal are closing in on a triple French swoop with Samir Nasri, Clement Chantome and Francis Coquelin all understood to be on the verge of moving to North London.

First 2 I have heard of the third i dont know anything about. Nasri would hopefully fit into the midfiled nicely. However although Chantome is a centre midfielder dont know will he be ready straight away which is what we need
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on May 21, 2008, 01:42:30 PM
from sky.com

Arsenal are closing in on a triple French swoop with Samir Nasri, Clement Chantome and Francis Coquelin all understood to be on the verge of moving to North London.

First 2 I have heard of the third i dont know anything about. Nasri would hopefully fit into the midfiled nicely. However although Chantome is a centre midfielder dont know will he be ready straight away which is what we need


Not more Gallic Players - we need a good hard as nails player who will stick it on the line now and again - Chelsea and United have them and the bottom line is they are in Moscow tonight and we arent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 21, 2008, 04:13:25 PM
from sky.com

Arsenal are closing in on a triple French swoop with Samir Nasri, Clement Chantome and Francis Coquelin all understood to be on the verge of moving to North London.

First 2 I have heard of the third i dont know anything about. Nasri would hopefully fit into the midfiled nicely. However although Chantome is a centre midfielder dont know will he be ready straight away which is what we need


Not more Gallic Players - we need a good hard as nails player who will stick it on the line now and again - Chelsea and United have them and the bottom line is they are in Moscow tonight and we arent.

are you forgetting mssrs petite and viera?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 21, 2008, 11:45:20 PM
Not a bad night's work for Gooners. Cashley wins nowt, Anelka misses penalty, Terry slips, Crynoldo bombs again, Fergie cocks up only for Terry to hand it to him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on May 21, 2008, 11:59:48 PM
What sort of dream land are u in o neill? Ronaldo bombs again, di u even watch the match? Missed penalty is not a bad game, every time he reeicieved a pass in Chelseas half he had essien on toast, as he had sagna by the way but we will not mention that as we are too busy celebrating three stars on utds shirt next season, how manys on arsenals?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 12:03:36 AM
Ronaldo was in Red Square between the 30th and 120th minute. Against Arsenal, he had his worst league game of the year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on May 22, 2008, 12:08:32 AM
Against arsenal he scored twice this season, keep taking the pills o neill, when was the last time an arsenal winger scored 42 goals per season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 12:12:33 AM
Typical Utd fan - always asking questions. Buy a Rothman's good man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on May 22, 2008, 12:36:38 AM
No question he did score two goals against arsenal this season and as for the rothmans, taste very nice thank u
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 12:41:11 AM
Jaysus, your side has just won the European Cup. Go celebrate somewhere and stop letting me wind you up.

Fergie, though, to his credit will keep going until his side goes through a league season unbeaten. Don't think he can manage it though. Rooney's stock fairly went down today and I can see Real pulling out of their bid for Crynoldo the seriel big-game flopper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2008, 12:15:47 PM
Ronaldo is just a bully, fairly choked on his penalty alright last night. I agree he was terrible against Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 22, 2008, 12:24:50 PM

What a header last night. it essetially won the CL for United.

It takes a proper footballer to deliver a goal of that quality on the big occasion. so many before him have choked badly at in the biggest games. Henry and Drogba come to mind.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 22, 2008, 12:42:25 PM

What a header last night. it essetially won the CL for United.

It takes a proper footballer to deliver a goal of that quality on the big occasion. so many before him have choked badly at in the biggest games. Henry and Drogba come to mind.

strange how rooneys performance last night never came into mind when you were compiling the list!

In fairness Henry was not fit when arsenal played in the champions league final.
Ronaldo did get a great goal last night but after the first 30mins he went missing until extra time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2008, 12:52:27 PM
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What a header last night. it essetially won the CL for United.

What a strange thing to say, maybe it's just me but I think Terry's penalty miss was a little bit more important.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wherefromreferee? on May 22, 2008, 12:56:02 PM
I just think its great that the above discussion is taking place on this thread  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 01:02:52 PM
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Fergie, though, to his credit will keep going until his side goes through a league season unbeaten. Don't think he can manage it though. Rooney's stock fairly went down today and I can see Real pulling out of their bid for Crynoldo the seriel big-game flopper.

Who gives a f**k about going through the season unbeaten if you win the league and champions league.  Ronaldo played well last night, alot better than Terry Henry did against Barcelona - he wasn't fit my hole! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2008, 01:24:07 PM
In fairness NRico that record of going through a season unbeaten is the finest Premiership achievement whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
It was. I think Fergie will die with that unease that Wenger produced the most beautiful record ever witnessed that year, during Fergie's tenure. I also thought it was a pity Utd betrayed their footballing heritage inherited from Busby by sitting on their hole in defence for 80 mins, afeard to attack. But I suppose it puts a trophy in the cabinet and keeps the Japs happy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 01:41:07 PM
I would hardly say United were afraid to attack, Chelsea gained the edge in the second half simple as that. 

Minder - I would love United to go unbeaten through a season, but if you win the league without doing so it doesn't make a difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2008, 01:47:45 PM
I would hardly say United were afraid to attack, Chelsea gained the edge in the second half simple as that. 

Minder - I would love United to go unbeaten through a season, but if you win the league without doing so it doesn't make a difference.

I think it does, its just United fans are always obsessed with "lists"......"Best supported", "Biggest club" "best premiership season", until a team equals Arsenals unbeaten season there can never be a comparison.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 02:00:49 PM
I didn't know that on the roll of honour (League Titles, FA Cups, Eurpean Cups etc) that there was one for going through a season unbeaten.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2008, 02:03:09 PM
I didn't know that on the roll of honour (League Titles, FA Cups, Eurpean Cups etc) that there was one for going through a season unbeaten.

Where did i say Roll Of Honour? On another point is Tony Baloney in work today or a course again?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 22, 2008, 02:23:23 PM

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What a header last night. it essetially won the CL for United.
What a strange thing to say, maybe it's just me but I think Terry's penalty miss was a little bit more important.

And would there have been penalties without CR's goal?

Go celebrate somewhere and stop letting me wind you up.

Ok.  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 02:28:58 PM
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I think it does, its just United fans are always obsessed with "lists"......"

In what way is a 'Roll of Honour' not a list?

I take it he is out today again, where is he away?  He has the life of it, nearly as much as you! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 23, 2008, 07:36:51 PM
Wenger Claims Diarra Panicked

Arsene Wenger believes Lassana Diarra "panicked" when he left Arsenal to join Portsmouth in January, and the Gunners boss has defended his own decision not to strengthen the squad during the transfer window.

The 23-year-old had only been at Emirates Stadium since August following his switch from Chelsea where the midfielder had become frustrated at a perceived lack of first-team opportunities.

However, after 13 appearances for the Gunners, he decided another move was necessary to push his claim for a place in the France squad at Euro 2008 and secured a transfer to Portsmouth, where he would go on to win the FA Cup final at Wembley.

Wenger, though, is in no doubt had the young midfielder shown more "patience", the opportunities would have come his way with the Gunners, especially following the departure of Mathieu Flamini to AC Milan.

"I came to the conclusion that Diarra could not cope with the fact that he was behind the other players here in midfield," said the Gunners boss.

"I thought the best option was to let him go because I already had Denilson, [Abou] Diaby and Gilberto all trying to get into the team as well. It was a congestion."

Wenger told the June edition of the official Arsenal magazine: "I bought Diarra in the summer because I thought Flamini might leave at the end of the season and if he was able to be patient, he would get his chance.

"It turned out he wasn't capable of that. With Euro 2008 in mind, he panicked.

"I did explain when he joined that he might have to be patient, and he acknowledged it, but he couldn't cope with the situation, and also did not want to go on loan anywhere either."

Wenger insisted his decision not to bolster the squad during January was a sound one, given the position his team were then in, standing two points clear of Manchester United at the top of the Premier League after the final matches of 2007.

However, the Arsenal manager could not envisage the way the season would quickly unravel following injury to key men Eduardo da Silva, Tomas Rosicky and Robin van Persie while main marksman Emmanuel Adebayor suddenly hit a goal drought.

"The transfer window was open, but at the time I didn't feel we were in need of any more players," reflected Wenger, whose young squad would eventually finish third and exit the Champions League in the quarter-finals to Liverpool.

"We had [Theo] Walcott and [Nicklas] Bendtner making big strides forward, and Eduardo was on form then and Adebayor on top form too. Overall when he is on fire, he scores in every game.

"I thought van Persie would be back shortly, and also did not expect to lose Rosicky for so long either."

Wenger maintained: "You have to keep the balance right between having competition in the squad, and having too many players. The squad did not look light at any time."

Just what shape Arsenal will be in for the start of next season remains to be seen.

With Flamini already gone, speculation continues that winger Alexander Hleb will soon follow him out of Emirates Stadium, with Real Madrid and Inter said to be leading the chase.

Meanwhile, reports in Italy claim Roma are ready to move for veteran Brazilian Gilberto, who saw his impact limited last season and is entering the final 12 months of his existing deal.

His compatriot Robinho, at Real Madrid, could be one potential target for Wenger, who is awaiting an answer on the club's move for Samir Nasri as the Marseille playmaker weighs up his options while Cameroon international midfielder Jean II Makoun is said to be ready to quit Lille for the chance to play in England, with the Emirates Stadium his preferred destination.

Arsenal, though, look set to continue to invest in youth.

A deal for France Under-17 international Francis Coquelin is expected to be concluded before the European Championships, while Cardiff's highly-rated teenager Aaron Ramsey is said to be another on Wenger's radar.

Yahoo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 09:26:17 PM
I hear Flamini has been dropped from the France panel for the Euros......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on May 28, 2008, 09:38:31 PM
glad he was, he'll get very little football at AC cos they have a pile of defensive midfielders! only reason he went was cos arsenal only offered 55grand a week and he'll probably get 75 in italy for sitting on the bench...greedy cnut!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 28, 2008, 09:41:41 PM
Clichy not selected either, is that not quite a surprise. Would put Evra ahead of him, but it's close and surely Clichy has been a better performer than Abidal.
Trezeguet another casualty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 28, 2008, 09:48:28 PM
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Clichy not selected either

Didn't even make the provisional 30, close call but he'd be fairly inexperienced at international level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 09:58:04 PM
Happy to see Clichy not making it. Badly needed a rest. Also happy to see Flamini dropped. Don't know why as I still have some affection for Cole who left in even more greedy circumstances. Maybe because he was only there since '04.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 28, 2008, 10:10:44 PM
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Don't know why as I still have some affection for Cole who left in even more greedy circumstances

Shocked, Cashley is the epitomy of the greedy premiership footballer and while I am never wishing him harm I do find myself bitterly disappointed anytime I see him in a Chelsea shirt.

Agree about Clichy and I think Flamini will realise soon enough what a mistake it was to leave.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 10:24:30 PM
I just can't forget Cole's 7 years at Arsenal though - 2 titles, 3 cups - and he was a key player who gave his all for the cause.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on May 28, 2008, 10:25:44 PM
I just can't forget Cole's 7 years at Arsenal though - 2 titles, 3 cups - and he was a key player who gave his all for the cause.

Ill go one step further and say he was my favourite. He always gave it everything.

For some reason I hate what he did,in a completely irrational way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2008, 10:28:52 PM
I still can't believe what Cole said in his book. If he had of said it in an interview off the cuff I'd of understood, but surely an advisor or his agent or someone would've said, Ashley you might want to re-evaluate that bit! Did he not realise how it would look?

The only thing in his favour is that at least he gives it 100% on the pitch, and wants to earn his money.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 28, 2008, 10:54:12 PM
I still can't believe what Cole said in his book.

What did he say?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2008, 11:17:16 PM
I still can't believe what Cole said in his book.

What did he say?

Can't remember exactly but something about he was offered a new deal worth about 55k a week, and then the club went back and said they were only offering 50k. Ashley had a whole chapter lamenting this, and the way he was treated.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 11:44:10 PM
I think he said he nearly crashed his car........when he heard Arsenal were 5000 less.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on May 29, 2008, 02:41:28 AM
Hate him even more now >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on May 29, 2008, 12:06:24 PM
Reported that the Nasri deal is done. Any of you boys able to confirm or deny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 29, 2008, 02:01:03 PM
from the bbc

Arsenal insist reports they have signed Marseille midfielder Samir Nasri for £12.5m are premature. (Press Association, 1301 BST)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on June 03, 2008, 10:59:38 AM
Seems like bad news for Arsenal on the transfer front. The signing of Nasri is in jeopardy. Apparently, due to Arsenal's strict wage structure, the wages on offer to Nasri are not acceptable, and the transfer is hanging in the balance. The deal may now be on hold until after Euro 2008.

Also, strong word today that Hleb will be joining Barcelona later this week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2008, 01:24:41 PM
Flamini recalled?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on June 03, 2008, 01:49:26 PM

Back in the squad as cover in case viera doesn't recover from injury
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2008, 09:20:06 PM

Bundesliga - Lehmann joins Stuttgart

Eurosport - Tue, 03 Jun 17:36:00 2008

Jens Lehmann has finally left Arsenal and signed a one-year deal with German side Stuttgart.


The 38-year-old finalised the move before flying to Mallorca with the Germany squad to begin their Euro 2008 preparations.

Lehmann made 147 appearances for the Gunners after joining in 2003 from Borussia Dortmund.

After replacing David Seaman, he won the title in his first season when he played every game of Arsenal's unbeaten league campaign. He also won the FA Cup the following season.

Stuttgart require a new goalkeeper after Raphael Schafer, who was signed from Nurnberg last summer, failed to live up to expectations.

Stuttgart, who finished sixth in the Bundesliga, have offered an option for a second year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2008, 09:49:31 PM
yahoo Germany

Jens Lehmann becomes Swabian. The national goalkeeper plays starting from the coming season for the VfB Stuttgart. The 38-Jährige comes to long Hickhack replace-free from the FC arsenal London to the Neckar, where it receives an a annual contract up to the end of the play time 2008/2009. With " Gunners" Lehmann did not fit any longer into the concept of coach Arsene Wenger, which degradierte the Keeper to the number two and referred to the spare bank. " I know Jens Lehmann already for many years and am of it convinced that he has still the fire in itself, maximum performances too bringen" , VfB Sportdirektor explained refuge Heldt opposite Spiegel online, which made the deal with Lehmann clear finally. Preference for the VfB The association was in the search for a new goal keeper, after master goal keeper Raphael shepherd was pushed after disappointing conceptions to the end the federal league season on the siding. " Jens Lehmann was from the beginning our Wunschkandidat" , Stuttgart coach Armin Veh meant. Lehmann praised the discussions with the Swabians as " much angenehm". " I look forward to the VfB and the Bundesliga" , said the Routinier, which referred the EM-accomodation at the beginning of the week with the national team. Silence over contract details Lehmann had expressed its preference already last for the VfB, which already made itself two weeks ago ago on the search for a replacement for after for only one season superseded shepherd. " The VfB is led respectablly, has a good crew, the attractive football plays and logically a good Trainer" , so the national goalkeeper, who denied altogether 55 international matches and since the WM 2006 mastergate-waits the DFB selection is. Before its change to the FC arsenal played the native Essener for the FC Schalke 04 and Borussia Dortmund (329 Bundesliga-Spiele/2 of gates). Over contract details Lehmanns agreed upon with the Swabians are however with approximately two million euro to lie with sides silence, the annual salary. " In addition we generally give no information. Jens Lehmann called today the other associations, which were likewise interested in an obligation, and we parallel the last details off with its lawyer besprochen" , so Heldt. The conclusion man had lost his master place with arsenal to the Spaniard Manuel Almunia. Altogether Lehmann, which completed 1998/99 also five plays for the AC Milan in the season, stood with which " Gunners" 147-mal between the posts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 04, 2008, 11:28:16 AM
Seems like bad news for Arsenal on the transfer front. The signing of Nasri is in jeopardy. Apparently, due to Arsenal's strict wage structure, the wages on offer to Nasri are not acceptable, and the transfer is hanging in the balance. The deal may now be on hold until after Euro 2008.

Also, strong word today that Hleb will be joining Barcelona later this week.

Think the nasri deal will go through on the after euro 08. He was supposed to go for a medical at the weekend but logistics prevented it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on June 04, 2008, 01:54:16 PM
Sagna signs new long-term contract with Arsenal
Arsenal Football Club is delighted to announce that Bacary Sagna has signed a new long-term contract with the Club.

Sagna ,25, who joined Arsenal from French side Auxerre last summer, impressed greatly in his first season with Club, making a total of 40 appearances, before his season was unfortunately cut short as a result of an ankle injury.

Bacary’s great performances last season did not go unnoticed as he was voted into the PFA Team of the Year by his fellow professionals.

Everyone at the Club is looking forward to Bacary’s continued contribution in the forthcoming years.

[ Wednesday, June 04, 2008]

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=492226&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Sagna+signs+new+long-term+contract+with+Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 04, 2008, 03:04:37 PM
I dont have a good feeling about signing nasri and selling hleb i think hleb is the kind of player arsenal are all about.
wat about niko krancjar from portsmouth he seems to be quality.
Glad to see sagna getting a new contract, arsenal's player of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on June 04, 2008, 05:32:32 PM
this stupid cnut of a wage cap that arsenal have is going to put alot of players off coming! what is the max wage they will pay per week? 55grand?

glad sagna has resigned, great player

i've said before i dont rate hleb, never does it on the big day, and he's going to go to madrid or somewhere and sit on the bench all yr like flamini!

need a keeper, couple of defenders and midfielders signed!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 04, 2008, 05:46:03 PM
I wish more clubs had a wage cap....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 04, 2008, 10:19:06 PM
i think we need one very big name signing but knowing wenger he'd rather make which i have no problem but we've plenty of funds go out and buy Kaka or someone like that just take the risk.
A trusted centre back wouldn go a miss bcuz senderos is poor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 04, 2008, 10:43:37 PM
What's the betting Senderos is player of the tournament....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 23, 2008, 07:18:46 PM

Premier League - Arsenal complete Nasri signing

Eurosport - Mon, 23 Jun 18:44:00 2008

According to the player, who turns 21 on Thursday, he joins the Gunners for a fee of £16.8 million after completing a medical with the north London side last week.

A statement on the player's personal website reads: "We inform you that Samir won't be an Olympique de Marseille player next season and that he has signed a four-year contract with London club Arsenal."

Arsenal themselves are yet to officially announce the deal.

The acquisition is Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger's second of the close-season, following the capture of teenager Arron Ramsey from Cardiff City for £5 million.

The deal was delayed while Nasri was at Euro 2008 with the France squad. The versatile winger, who can play on both flanks, made two appearances, both as a substitute.

Nasri holds the dubious distinction of being taken off in the same match as being brought on at the tournament, during the crunch Group C match against Italy.

He replaced the injured Franck Ribery after just 10 minutes of that 2-0 defeat, only to be substituted himself 15 minutes later when manager Raymond Domenech brought on defender Jean-Alain Boumsong after Eric Abidal was sent off.

Nasri was voted Marseille's player of the year by the club's fans at the end of the 2006/2007 season, and scored six goals in 30 appearances last term.

The signing is another strong indication that Alexander Hleb is leaving the club, as Arsenal will now be more willing to let his much-touted move to Inter Milan go through.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 23, 2008, 09:34:15 PM
O'Neill dont do a fearon on it and curse the move. Nothing is confirmed yet!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 23, 2008, 10:23:57 PM
Here are the squad numbers in full:

1. Manuel ALMUNIA
2. Abou DIABY
3. Bacary SAGNA
4. Francesc FABREGAS
5. Kolo TOURE
6. Philippe SENDEROS
7. Tomas ROSICKY
8.
9. EDUARDO
10. William GALLAS
11. Robin VAN PERSIE
12. Carlos VELA
13. Alexander HLEB
14.
15. DENILSON
16. Aaron RAMSEY
17. Alexandre SONG
18.
19. GILBERTO
20. Johan DJOUROU
21. Lukasz FABIANSKI
22. Gael CLICHY
23.
24. Vito MANNONE
25. Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
26. Nicklas BENDTNER
27. Emmanuel EBOUE
28.
29.
30. Armand TRAORE
31. Justin HOYTE
32. Theo WALCOTT
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on June 25, 2008, 12:44:32 PM
Hopefully the Nasri signing will be completed today....According to Sky Sports the Marseille chairman has conceded that a deal was immenent....

Sort of glad we didn't see too much of him at the Euro's...If he was really good it would have knocked his price up a lot.....plus he will be relatively fresh.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 25, 2008, 07:49:08 PM
im guessin what the papers are saying about Silva the spanish winger being linked as Hlebs replacement is pure shit, seeing we've got Nasri??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 27, 2008, 02:09:40 PM
from bbc.co.uk

Emmanuel Adebayor has ended speculation about his immediate future by announcing he is staying at Arsenal.

The Togo striker, who scored 30 goals in 48 games for Arsenal last season, has been a target for both Italian side AC Milan and Catalan club Barcelona.

But the 24-year-old said in Vienna: "I am an Arsenal player and have three years left on my contract.

"The most important thing for me is to keep on enjoying my football. I'm staying at Arsenal."

AC Milan, who signed Mathieu Flamini from the Gunners in May, had previously announced that Adebayor was their only other target this summer. 

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has also been in Austria for the European Championship, but has not spoken to Adebayor about the player's future.

Should talks ever take place over a move, the former Monaco striker insisted money would not be a factor.

"When I was young I had a dream to be a good footballer and play for a big team," said Adebayor, who was in Vienna with his sponsors.

"I was born in Togo so I never cared about playing for money, my happiness was to play to enjoy myself. That's what I've been doing until now.

"You can see people changing clubs because of money, because they want a change of atmosphere or to get their names in the big leagues. I just play football to enjoy myself. I play because I love it."


good to see a bit of loyalty. Maybe hleb will will show some too!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 27, 2008, 04:32:37 PM
Bollox. I'd hoped he was going.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 27, 2008, 05:48:15 PM
Bollox. I'd hoped he was going.
???
 and where were the goals going to come from our new no 14 theo???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 12:46:46 AM
Adebayor is a poor man's Drogba. His value is highest now. Cash in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Malone Aristocrat on June 28, 2008, 08:24:47 AM

I agree, bleed them for every penny before they realise how mediocre ade is.

arsene will be thinking the same
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 10:11:59 AM
Did you hear Adebayor yesterday saying he thought he was worth 40m or 47m. Had to laugh. If Arsene got 20m, spash out on 2 decent players, one to complement Van Persie, Walcott, Bentner and Eduardo and the other a defensive midfielder.

Adebayor is mostly a donkey who hits a purple patch once in a while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on June 28, 2008, 10:47:09 AM
Did you hear Adebayor yesterday saying he thought he was worth 40m or 47m. Had to laugh. If Arsene got 20m, spash out on 2 decent players, one to complement Van Persie, Walcott, Bentner and Eduardo and the other a defensive midfielder.

Adebayor is mostly a donkey who hits a purple patch once in a while.

why buy 2 decent players to compliment the bench warmers you named?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 10:55:48 AM
They'll not be bench warmers this year. That's the way Wenger works. He rarely thrusts young players straight in, usually spending 24 months as bit-part players until they get the green light. I'm expecting Bendtner to start alongside RvP with Walcott winger. However, with Robin so injury prone, he needs another top class striker. Eduardo'll probably not get back to near his best til late season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 11:01:06 AM
I see Lehmann says he's proud to represent the Arse tomorrow in the final

Jaysus Mad Jens, don't say that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 28, 2008, 11:01:36 AM
if adebayor goes we need to buy a top striker, adebayor is a very good overall striker but you can't trust him to score when one on one it usualy takes a few chances. Bendtner is cat and he needs to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 28, 2008, 11:43:11 AM
Did you hear Adebayor yesterday saying he thought he was worth 40m or 47m. Had to laugh. If Arsene got 20m, spash out on 2 decent players, one to complement Van Persie, Walcott, Bentner and Eduardo and the other a defensive midfielder.

Adebayor is mostly a donkey who hits a purple patch once in a while.
i cann't agree with you there. He got 30 odd goals last season. He was a donkey when he came first but has developed into a good striker. He gave us real options up front in the post henry era. If he goes where will the goals come from persie is injury prone, bentner couldn't hit a barn door, eduardo might not be the same player he was and theo is over rated.
If he does go and we have 24 or 25 million to spend who is available peter crouch, santa cruz ?? not in the same league  as adebayorand wouldn't give 10million for either. leaving 15 million for a defensive midfielder. which i agree we do need to get pronto. But we have that money already so why not have our cake and eat it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Malone Aristocrat on June 28, 2008, 12:48:52 PM

santa cruz is a better all round striker than ade. with the supply arsenal would give him he'd score bucket fulls
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 01:08:41 PM
We'll agree to disagree on Adebayor. I don't rate him - the majority of last year's goals were set on a plate by Fabregas and Hleb for him. I think his general attitude stinks when the chips are down and some of his decisions when put clean through were beyond belief. His mouthing off to the press this week sums up what I always suspected of him

Walcott is only overrated by those who think he's the new Maradona! His form improved dramatically over the last 10 games last year and I expect him to kick on. Bendtner has the potential but this year will tell a tale.

Eduardo was starting to show the speed and guile needed to finish off the good work weaved by our midfield and it's a striker in that mould that'll see Arsenal reach the next level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 28, 2008, 11:25:27 PM
Do you think the now infamous derogatory chant directed at him mainly by Spurs & Chelsea fans has had anything to do with his requesting a transfer?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 29, 2008, 12:33:32 AM
Did he request a transfer?
What was the song?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 29, 2008, 01:25:14 PM
Quote
What was the song?

Adebayor, Adebayor, his dad washes elephants, his mothers a wh*re.   Racism thinly veiled as humour
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 29, 2008, 06:30:56 PM
Quote
What was the song?

Adebayor, Adebayor, his dad washes elephants, his mothers a wh*re.   Racism thinly veiled as humour

So he has handed in a transfer request because of racism....and heading to Italy?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 02, 2008, 02:33:10 PM


Quote
Arsenal are demanding over £35m for Emmanuel Adebayor, according to AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani.

He says the deal is too rich for Milan's blood, with Italian teams struggling to compete with Chelsea and Barcelona for the world's top players.

The Gunners are reported to have turned down a £25m bid from Barcelona for the Togo striker, with Galliani suggesting that Arsenal are looking for another £10m.

"Adebayor is overridden by continuous requests for €45 million (£35.6 m), these figures are impossible for clubs in Italy," said Galliani. "In fact, the top footballers in the world do not come here anymore.

"When big clubs like Barcelona and Chelsea arrive it is impossible to compete, because they have a much more advantageous fiscal situation."

According to a number of reports, Barcelona's bid was turned down yesterday, although it is distinctly possible that the Spanish giants will make an improved offer given the need of Joan Laporta, the club's president, to make a significant splash in the transfer market before he faces a vote of no-confidence from members at the weekend.

A bid of £30m could actually be sufficient to persuade Arsenal to sell Adebayor, especially as he continues to request a hefty wage rise. According to The Times, 'During all his discussions with the club, Adebayor has told Arsenal, where he has three years left on his contract, that he wants to stay, but that they must keep to a promise of a new deal as a reward for an outstanding season.'

The African is understood to be paid around £35,000 a week. While that is a fortune in most people's eyes, it is a relative pittance in Premier League terms.

Moreover, Adebayor would be entitled to expect his salary to reflect Arsenal's valuation of his services. Were he to be sold for £30m, the transfer would be the sixth largest in the history of football.

Adebayor is not due to return to Arsenal to begin pre-season training until the end of the month, although his agent Stéphane Courbis is expected to meet with Arsene Wenger this week. Speaking to The Times, Courbis indicated that a pay rise would persuade Adebayor to stay in north London, remarking: "It is important for Emmanuel that Arsenal show their motivation to keep him. Whatever they will decide, the decision will be taken with respect."

If Wenger gets £35m for Adebayor, it will be an astonishing piece of business and an offer he can't refuse. I'm undecided to as whether Ade is a  Drogba or an Andy Cole and this season if he stays will show his true worth.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 02, 2008, 02:56:08 PM
Take the feckin 25m.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 03, 2008, 11:40:06 PM
Those were the days:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gx_uKCsNwlc&feature=related

Great wee song at the end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2008, 06:58:55 PM
Televised Games 08/09 Premier League
July 4, 2008
Sky/Setanta Televised live fixtures for the season 2008/09.

Sat Aug 16 12.45pm Sky – Arsenal v West Brom
Sat Aug 16 5.15pm Setanta – Sunderland v Liverpool
Sun Aug 17 1.30pm Sky – Chelsea v Portsmouth
Sun Aug 17 4.00pm Sky – Man Utd v Newcastle
Sat Aug 23 12.45pm Sky – Man City v West Ham
Sat Aug 23 5.15pm Setanta – Fulham v Arsenal (Liverpool v Middlesbrough if blocked by police)
Sun Aug 24 1.30pm Sky – Wigan v Chelsea
Sun Aug 24 4.00pm Sky – Portsmouth v Man Utd
Sat Aug 30 12.45pm Sky – West Ham v Blackburn
Sat Aug 30 5.15pm Setanta – Everton v Portsmouth
Sun Aug 31 1.30pm Setanta – Aston Villa v Liverpool
Sun Aug 31 4.00pm Sky – Chelsea v Tottenham
Sat Sep 13 12.45 Sky – Liverpool v Man Utd
Sat Sep 13 5.15 Setanta – Man City v Chelsea
Sun Sep 14 4.00pm Sky – Tottenham v Aston Villa
Mon Sep 15 8.00pm Setanta – West Brom v West Ham
Sat Sep 20 12.45pm Sky – Bolton v Arsenal
Sat Sep 20 5.15pm Setanta – Sunderland v Middlesbrough (West Ham v Newcastle if blocked by police)
Sun Sep 21 1.30pm Sky – West Brom v Aston Villa
Sun Sep 21 4.00pm Sky – Chelsea v Man Utd
Sat Sep 27 12.45pm Sky – Everton v Liverpool
Sat Sep 27 5.15pm Setanta – Stoke v Chelsea
Sun Sep 28 4.00pm Sky – Portsmouth v Tottenham
Mon Sep 29 8.00pm Setanta – Fulham v West Ham
Sat Oct 4 12.45pm Sky – West Ham v Bolton
Sat Oct 4 5.15pm Setanta – Blackburn v Man Utd
Sun Oct 5 1.30pm Sky – Everton v Newcastle
Sun Oct 5 4.00pm Sky – Man City v Liverpool
Sat Oct 18 12.45pm Sky – Arsenal v Everton
Sat Oct 18 5.15pm Setanta – Middlesbrough v Chelsea
Sun Oct 19 4.00pm Sky – Aston Villa v Portsmouth
Mon Oct 20 8.00pm Setanta – Hull v West Ham
Sat Oct 25 12.45pm Sky – Sunderland v Newcastle
Sun Oct 26 12.00pm Setanta – Portsmouth v Fulham (Sunday as after UEFA cup game)
Sun Oct 26 2.00pm Sky – Everton v Man Utd (West Ham v Arsenal if blocked by police)
Sun Oct 26 4.10pm Sky – Chelsea v Liverpool
Tue Oct 28 8.00pm Sky – Newcastle v West Brom
Wed Oct 29 8.00pm Sky – Arsenal v Tottenham
Sat Nov 1 12.45pm Sky – Tottenham v Liverpool
Sat Nov 1 5.15pm Setanta – Stoke v Arsenal
Sun Nov 2 4.00pm Sky – Newcastle v Aston Villa
Mon Nov 3 8.00pm Setanta – Bolton v Man City
Sat Nov 8 12.45pm Sky – Blackburn v Chelsea
Sat Nov 8 5.15pm Setanta – Man City v Tottenham
Sun Nov 9 1.30pm Sky – Sunderland v Portsmouth
Sun Nov 9 4.00pm Sky – Arsenal v Man Utd
Sat Nov 15 12.45pm Sky – Hull v Man City
Sat Nov 15 5.15pm Setanta – Arsenal v Aston Villa
Sun Nov 16 1.30pm Sky – Fulham v Tottenham
Sun Nov 16 4.00pm Sky – West Brom v Chelsea
Sat Nov 22 12.45pm Sky – Man City v Arsenal
Sat Nov 22 5.15pm Setanta – Aston Villa v Man Utd
Sun Nov 23 4.00pm Sky – Tottenham v Blackburn
Mon Nov 24 8.00pm Setanta – Sunderland v West Ham
Sat Nov 29 12.45pm Sky – Middlesbrough v Newcastle
Sun Nov 30 1.30pm Setanta – Man City v Man Utd
Sun Nov 30 4.00pm Sky – Chelsea v Arsenal
Mon Dec 1 8.00pm Setanta – Tottenham v Everton
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 04, 2008, 11:11:59 PM
I hear there was a hoax TV schedule doing the rounds yesterday on the night, so not sure if yours is right or not Shane.
Hope not, as I am working a lot of the TV games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on July 11, 2008, 09:47:01 AM

Nasri agrees to join Arsenal from Marseille
French international midfielder Samir Nasri has agreed to join Arsenal from Olympique Marseille on a long-term contract for an undisclosed fee.

Nasri (21), who made two appearances for France in Euro 2008, was voted as the French Ligue 1 'Young Player of the Year' for 2006/07 and was also Olympique Marseille's Player of the Year for 2007.

Nasri, has made twelve appearances (scoring twice) for the French national team, making his debut for his country in March 2007 in the 1-0 friendly win over Austria. He was also a French Under-21 international and part of the French Under-17s who won the European Championships in 2004.

The young attacking midfielder made 145 appearances (scoring 11 goals) for Olympique Marseille, during which time he won the UEFA Intertoto Cup in 2005, was a French Cup runner-up in 2006 and 2007 and helped his side into third place in Ligue 1 last season, thus securing a UEFA Champions League place for next season.

Manager Arsène Wenger said: "We are delighted to be signing Samir Nasri. He is young, quick and technically an outstanding player. He has shown great potential with his performances for Marseille and the French national team over the past two seasons and he will add great quality to our squad."

Nasri added: "I'm very happy to become an Arsenal player, it means such a lot to me. This is a very important step in my life as a football player because Arsenal is a massive club. I really hope everything will go well for me here. I will do my best for Arsenal and its fans and I am honoured to be part of such a great football club."

Samir Nasri is due to join up with his new Arsenal team mates for pre-season training on 21st July

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=493818&lid=NewsHeadline&Title (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=493818&lid=NewsHeadline&Title)

Finally this transfer is complete.

It's good to see Arsenal bring in a new player as opposed to all the current rumours about players leaving
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 16, 2008, 01:23:54 PM
from the beeb

Arsenal's Belarus midfield man Alexander Hleb is undergoing a medical at Barcelona on Wednesday ahead of an £11.9m move to the Nou Camp.

Barcelona confirmed the deal for the 27-year-old on the club website and he arrives as Ronaldinho travels to Italy for a medical at AC Milan.

Hleb had been linked with Inter Milan, but Barcelona have won the race.

Arsenal have also lost Matthieu Flamini to AC Milan and Gilberto Silva is poised to sign for Panathinaikos.
 
Barcelona have announced that Hleb will have medical tests throughout Wednesday and is expected to sign a contract on Thursday.

Barcelona vice-president Marc Ingla confirmed in June that they were in talks to sign Hleb, saying: "Barcelona's negotiations with Hleb are still in progress.

"But despite him being a player with special qualities, if his club are not ready to sell him, we have other options in mind."

Hleb's departure from the Emirates Stadium has seemed likely all summer after the player admitted he was "mentally tired" of the combination of living in London and playing top-level football.

He joined Arsenal in 2005 after the club paid Stuttgart £11.2m for his services, and if he signs he will become Barcelona's fifth summer signing following the arrivals of Seydou Keita, Gerard Pique, Martin Caceres and Daniel Alves


not big profit on the sale but a profit all the same. Lets hope nasri can fill the void. We need more goals from mdfield ala pires and freddie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on July 16, 2008, 01:42:33 PM


not big profit on the sale but a profit all the same. Lets hope nasri can fill the void. We need more goals from mdfield ala pires and freddie


Do any of ye think that Nasri and Cesc are very similar players.  Will they be able to play in the same team or has Wenger another role planned for Nasri in the same way he moved Henry from the wing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 16, 2008, 04:31:54 PM
i think he will play him on the wing as he can play either through the centre or out there. Dont think he will be an  out and out winger though e.g overmars but more a player who will tuck in when needed to link play. Hopefully he will chip in with a few goals though as they have been like hens teeth from midfield over the last few years
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2008, 07:46:32 PM
Mixed feelings about Hleb leaving. Loved watching him play - sort of a schoolyard approach, dribbling around 3-4 players and then doing it again. However, his stats were atrocious and was a bit of a luxury when it was backs to the wall. Replacing Pires still haunts AW.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 16, 2008, 11:12:17 PM
im the same as o'neill, still dont know how wenger is going to replace all these midfielders the has sold, no holding player now that flamini and silva are gone, nasri will come in but is more attacking, think barry would be a good addition but ideal player would be senna that played for spain, a younger model of makalele and knows exactly how cesc plays. will be interesting to see how rosicky fits in after long lay off with injury..hope Van Persie stays fit as i think he has the potential to rip teams apart, like bergkamp what he lacks in pace he makes up in awareness and doing the unexpected.

what about the defence...will arsene contine to play gallas and toure...id prefer to see gallas out of the centre but clichy and sagna have made the wing back rolls their own and senderos needs to be got rid of wether its released on a free or sacked for being rubbish!also what about goalkeepers...we have almunia but who is the back up now that the mad german is away..

alot of questions for arsenal fans to think about though i honestly dont think arsene would let players go if he didnt think he could replace them!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 17, 2008, 02:38:53 PM
im the same as o'neill, still dont know how wenger is going to replace all these midfielders the has sold, no holding player now that flamini and silva are gone, nasri will come in but is more attacking, think barry would be a good addition but ideal player would be senna that played for spain, a younger model of makalele and knows exactly how cesc plays. will be interesting to see how rosicky fits in after long lay off with injury..hope Van Persie stays fit as i think he has the potential to rip teams apart, like bergkamp what he lacks in pace he makes up in awareness and doing the unexpected.

what about the defence...will arsene contine to play gallas and toure...id prefer to see gallas out of the centre but clichy and sagna have made the wing back rolls their own and senderos needs to be got rid of wether its released on a free or sacked for being rubbish!also what about goalkeepers...we have almunia but who is the back up now that the mad german is away..

alot of questions for arsenal fans to think about though i honestly dont think arsene would let players go if he didnt think he could replace them!



Younger, but not by much. According to WSC he is 32.

Edit: Just wiki'd him. He's 32 today. Happy Birthday dear Marcos, happy birthday to you.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 17, 2008, 05:47:36 PM
gilberto & hleb both gone on the one day.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH THE SUMMER SALE HAS TO FINISH TODAY!! We need to sign 2 midfielders & a centre back and a keeper to challenge for the title next season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 17, 2008, 06:57:37 PM
Good man Gilberto. A rock in the Invincibles. Good luck and thanks for the service.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywzn18ihtsc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on July 18, 2008, 12:01:22 AM

AHEM......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 18, 2008, 12:48:33 AM
Yes, but shit 07/08.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 19, 2008, 01:50:49 PM
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=14912&part=sports

First game of season v Barnet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on July 19, 2008, 03:42:15 PM
What division is Barnet in ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 20, 2008, 12:12:28 AM
Arse 2 Barnet 1

Goals:

http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/LDYCDZSTRT79842W
http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/TCN0JKV6HJSDKKKG
http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/6HK9CFT8CR68KP6X
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on July 20, 2008, 12:26:44 AM
Yis can add a new keeper to the shopping list as well!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 10:07:05 AM
Tough test today against Szombathelyi Haladás of Hungary. Haladás is the Hungarian word for progress which spells danger in my book.
The picture on their home page ( http://haladasfc.nyugat.hu/ ) looks a bit intimidating.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 10:19:23 AM
Martin Keown - still a laugh a minute.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22072008/58/60-seconds-martin-keown.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 05:43:02 PM
Walcott, Bendtner, Denilson, Sagna, Ramsey and Clichy (capt) playing.

Nerves destroying me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 05:59:46 PM
1-0 down. A wonderful mix-up between the Hoyte Brothers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 06:36:05 PM
1-1. Walcott. Seems to be in good shape. Could be worth a few early fantasy points.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 23, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
i read toure has malaria, we need a cente back pronto, i coan not bear the though of the season starting with senderos at the back!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 23, 2008, 04:17:33 PM
i honestly dont know how senderos has lasted so long and played so many games under wenger..he is slow, always seems to panic on the ball and is slow to react to situations...if toure is out for a while we are fcuked..djurou, song, the hoytes, no where near good enuf to play at the top level so wenger has to see that signings are needed!

i hope theo can show doubters (including myself) what hes made of this year, after that run against liverpool i dont see why he cant do it week in week out in the league, pace like his scares the shité out of defenders!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on July 24, 2008, 06:33:36 AM
Was just reading a bit about Hlebs departure there. Now I wouldnt claim to know much about transfers and so on, but surely 600 thousand pounds of profit of the sale of a player of his quality - to a club like barcelona is bad business in any language. Its almost like paying the same about of money for Darren Bent as for Thierry Henry. Hleb was bought for 11.2 million in 05 and at 27 years old was sold to barca for 11.8.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 25, 2008, 06:54:41 PM
I think Arsenal stand to make a good few million more depending on appearances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on July 25, 2008, 09:02:26 PM
 
 New Arsenal away kit – Anfield ’89 20th Anniversary
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 08:33:58 AM
Burgenland XI v Arsenal today. Not a fast-food select, but an Austrian select.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: kinghen on July 28, 2008, 01:29:40 PM
i honestly dont know how senderos has lasted so long and played so many games under wenger..he is slow, always seems to panic on the ball and is slow to react to situations...if toure is out for a while we are fcuked..djurou, song, the hoytes, no where near good enuf to play at the top level so wenger has to see that signings are needed!

i hope theo can show doubters (including myself) what hes made of this year, after that run against liverpool i dont see why he cant do it week in week out in the league, pace like his scares the shité out of defenders!

i was a doubter of young theo myself, however i have high hopes for him this season, alas i dont think him tryin to run the pitch solo, ala against liverpool, is the answer, too often he takes one touch too many and loses it in the tackle, beating 2 men is no use if he loses it tryin to beat the 3rd! i think playing 1-2's withe the like of fabregas and getting him in behind defenders is the key, hopefully we see more of him gettin to the end line and squaring it for a tap-in, eg ade's goal against milan!!

re;senderos, i can only assume that this is stubborness on wengers part, tryin to prove that he will come good, i really do think that he should just listen to the critics and get rid of this kryton *sp* lookalike waste of space!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 04:11:28 PM
Senderos was terrific in Arsenal's run to the CL final in 2006 - I think Arsenal set a record then for clean sheets. He was also performing heroics for the Swiss then. An injury and he has never really recovered that sharpness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on July 28, 2008, 04:28:16 PM
Senderos was terrific in Arsenal's run to the CL final in 2006 - I think Arsenal set a record then for clean sheets. He was also performing heroics for the Swiss then. An injury and he has never really recovered that sharpness.

cant believe there is only 1 club interested in him. He is such a talent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 06:10:43 PM
5-0 up after 29 mins. Should've been 8. Wouldn't like to be a Burgenlander tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 06:12:23 PM
6-0 31 mins. Think of the children. Bendtner hattrick
Title: Fibreglass Rejects Exit Spec....
Post by: Niall Quinn on July 29, 2008, 03:17:42 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7529194.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 08:56:11 AM
Finished 10-2 that game.

First decent opposition tonight in Stuttgart with Mad Jens in goals for his new club.

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 30, 2008, 05:05:25 PM
from  arsenal.com

Portuguese midfielder Amaury Bischoff joins Arsenal
Arsenal can today confirm the signing of midfielder Amaury Bischoff.

The French-born Portugal Under-21 international, 21, was a youngster with French clubs SR Colmar and Strasbourg before moving to Werder Bremen in 2005.

Bischoff, who can play either in the centre of midfield or on the right, was a regular at youth levels for Werder Bremen. His one senior appearance for the Bundesliga club came against Celta Vigo in the UEFA Cup in 2007.

Amaury has played for France's Under-18 team, however in 2007 he elected to train with Portugal and to date has appeared for their Under-21 side.

Everyone at Arsenal Football Club would like to welcome Amaury, who will wear squad No 28, and will join up with his team-mates for pre-season when the squad returns from their training camp in Austria.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 30, 2008, 05:14:49 PM
 
 New Arsenal away kit – Anfield ’89 20th Anniversary
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Bastids!!! Psychological Warfare. I can still see Steve McMahon holding up 1 finger. I minute left!! Why oh why didn't Steve Nicol put Michael Thomas out into the Stand!?!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 05:26:16 PM
Ah, the memories as an innocent 14-year old. Smith's barely touched header. Aldridge (I think) having the chance late on to sink Arsenal. It's Up For Grabs Now. 18 years in the wilderness wiped out. Liverpool, this year, are in a similar position.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 30, 2008, 05:31:59 PM
I was 15, almost 16, and one of my most vivid memories is turning the telly off in disgust the next evening as the UTV news (I think) showed pictures of Arsenal's homecoming in London. God I was as sick as a plane to Lourdes.

For years I took perverse pride that Nicol didn't hack him down that time. Now I wish he had, especially as United have crept up to within 1 title, and are probably favourites to draw level this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 07:22:04 PM
Full strength line-up bar Fabregas and Rosicky.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 08:39:29 PM
1-1 after 60. Vela scored - looks a lively lad.

2-1 - good finish from Bendtner after 1-2 with Vela.

Arsenal much sharper since Vela and Bendtner replaced RVP and Ade.

3-1 Wilshire - I think this lad's a better talent that Walcott
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2008, 09:37:34 PM
Quote
3-1 Wilshire - I think this lad's a better talent that Walcott

You might be right, impressed with this kid, no wonder Wenger is confident about this season, this could be a great year yet....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 09:45:51 PM
I see he has been christened JFW - Jack effing Wilshire. Definitely a better brain than Walcott - very young though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 30, 2008, 10:17:30 PM
Too lazy to check as I am at work but who is Vela?

New signing, new kid?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Corporal on July 30, 2008, 10:31:34 PM
Vela was bought a couple of seasons ago but was loaned out to different teams in Spain. Played for Osasuna (i think) last year and scored a good few goals. Still very young.

How did Nasri go 2nite?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 10:35:16 PM
Nasri was quiet. Has shown nothing yet. Interestingly, he played Eboue as a defensive midfielder. It worked well but too early to judge. Don't think his temperament is suitable to that job.

Vela is in the same mould as Eduardo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 31, 2008, 01:21:18 PM
very nice of spurs to give us six million euro. our share of the bentley transfer from blackburn to them! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 01, 2008, 05:40:09 AM
Wenger has ruled out buying another striker which is fair enuf but we are crying out fore a central defender and central midfielder.....hav 2 admit i would b v temped wit Barry.......vela looks an exciting prospect.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on August 01, 2008, 09:41:18 AM
very nice of spurs to give us six million euro. our share of the bentley transfer from blackburn to them! ;D

must be great to have your biggest rivals setting your transfer budget for the summer  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 01, 2008, 07:55:30 PM
very nice of spurs to give us six million euro. our share of the bentley transfer from blackburn to them! ;D

must be great to have your biggest rivals setting your transfer budget for the summer  ;D

Biggest rivals?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 04, 2008, 09:39:19 PM
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has rejected reports linking Philippe Senderos with a move to Newcastle.

Weekend reports suggested Newcastle were lining up a move for Senderos and could even offer Shay Given in a swap deal.

Wenger, though, has rubbished the rumours and says he has no plans to sell the Swiss international.

Asked if he had heard anything from Newcastle about Senderos, Wenger told Sky Sports News: "Nothing, no.

"I will not react because we want to keep our best players. ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 04, 2008, 09:58:01 PM
is wenger having a laugh when he says Send-him-home is one of our best players? :o

this man has my heart in mouth every time he comes near to the ball or another player... how he has lasted this long is beyond me!

on another note this young wilshire lad seems to be the real deal, hopefully wenger gives him time to come thru instead of playing him too early..but dont worry i trust AW's judgement (despite the senderos comment)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 05, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has rejected reports linking Philippe Senderos with a move to Newcastle.

Weekend reports suggested Newcastle were lining up a move for Senderos and could even offer Shay Given in a swap deal.


please let it be true!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2008, 07:10:11 PM
About to start v Huddersfield.

Fabianski
J.Hoyte G.Hoyte Djourou Gibbs
Lansbury Randall Ramsey Wilshere
Walcott Vela

Didn't ge to see the weekend tournament. Heard Wilshire put in another decent display.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 09:18:02 PM
Gunners getting a bit of a spanking at the minute, 2-0 down to Ajax at half time. Does not bode well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 09:55:00 PM
2-2

Bodes well
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 09:58:51 PM
Arse 3-2 up. Bodes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2008, 11:33:16 PM
1-1 draw with Seville tonight, winning that tournament again. Despite being relatively outplayed, Arsenal's side had an average age of 19.5 against the Spaniards' full team. Remarkable.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: galwayman on August 11, 2008, 12:47:14 AM
Ye could do with buying a central midfielder lads? I read that Arsenal have been linked with Yaya Toure of Barca. I saw him play against Inter last summer (albeit in a friendly) and thought he looked a very good player. I had never heard of him before that game but he did look impressive.Scored a cracking goal as well.
Not an Gooner myself but In fairness Arsenal are a joy to watch.Play lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 11, 2008, 12:49:19 AM
Unfortunately, we'll play lovely stuff again - the sort of total football stuff they talk about - and will probably put on major performances in the CL but, again, Arsenal still need a break-yer-legs competitor to win the League.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 11, 2008, 04:25:05 PM
i see diaby is out for a month. that means it will be denilson and cesc in the middle on wedneday night. We need to buy cover (or even better a world class player) in the centre of midfield pronto!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2008, 08:22:04 AM
FC Twente v Arsenal

Arsenal are without Cesc Fabregas and several other first-team stars for the game against FC Twente in Holland.

Fabregas (hamstring) joins the likes of Kolo Toure (hip), Abou Diaby (thigh), Philippe Senderos (hamstring) and summer signing Samri Nasri (knee/thigh) on the sidelines along with Tomas Rosicky and Eduardo, who are both recovering from long-term injuries.

The number of absentees for the third qualifying round first-leg tie at the Grolsch Veste means Wales Under-21 international Aaron Ramsey - who joined the Gunners in a £5 million deal from Cardiff - could be handed a full competitive debut alongside young Brazilian Denilson in midfield.

Yahoo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on August 13, 2008, 08:29:24 AM
Here lads.  Putting my fantasy team together.  Will it be Adebayor & Van Persie as the 1st choices up from?  Who's gonna parter Fabregas in MF?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2008, 08:36:54 AM
Most definitely they'll be first choice. RVP's prone to injury which should see Bendtner getting a clamp of games. Walcott will probably be a starter this year as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on August 13, 2008, 08:51:46 AM
Cheers.   Will the young lad from Cardiff be a starter or who's gonna fill flamini's position?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2008, 09:08:02 AM
Initially he will be - tonight will tell a tale. However, a fully fit squad should see Walcott-Diaby-Fabregas-Rosicky with Nasri, Denilson and Eboue pushing for starts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2008, 09:15:20 AM
Tonights's game in Arnhem could be a Bridge Too Far for these young goons especially with Fabregas out  :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 13, 2008, 09:06:15 PM
1 nil up gallas (63 min)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 13, 2008, 09:12:39 PM
Anyone hear McClaren talk before the match  ???
He has a Dutch accent,He is only in the fecking country 5 weeks  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 13, 2008, 09:20:28 PM
Anyone hear McClaren talk before the match  ???
He has a Dutch accent,He is only in the fecking country 5 weeks  :D

they will be using the jaap stam character on gift grub for him!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 13, 2008, 09:25:29 PM
2 nil adebayor, hopefully this puts the tie to bed
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 13, 2008, 09:47:18 PM
McLaren was speakin as if he was talking to some1 with really bad english...couldn believe it - laughed my head off


good result....gr8 skill by walcott for the goal....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2008, 09:31:42 AM
Was worried about this game but the kids look sharp, augers well with so many missing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stevo-08 on August 14, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
FC Twente v Arsenal

Arsenal are without Cesc Fabregas and several other first-team stars for the game against FC Twente in Holland.

Fabregas (hamstring) joins the likes of Kolo Toure (hip), Abou Diaby (thigh), Philippe Senderos (hamstring) and summer signing Samri Nasri (knee/thigh) on the sidelines along with Tomas Rosicky and Eduardo, who are both recovering from long-term injuries.

The number of absentees for the third qualifying round first-leg tie at the Grolsch Veste means Wales Under-21 international Aaron Ramsey - who joined the Gunners in a £5 million deal from Cardiff - could be handed a full competitive debut alongside young Brazilian Denilson in midfield.

Yahoo.

Lads, whats the story with the injury to Fabregas? Any chance of him starting this weekend.
I have him on my fantasy football team.  :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on August 21, 2008, 09:19:55 AM
Arsenal announce signing of Mikael Silvestre
Arsenal has today signed French defender Mikael Silvestre on a two year deal having joined the Gunners from Manchester United for an undisclosed fee.

Silvestre (31), an experienced and versatile player, has been with Manchester United since 1999 winning a host of domestic honours including four Premier League titles, one FA Cup winner’s medal and a League Cup winner’s medal. Silvestre was also part of the UEFA Champions League winning side of 2008 and made a total of 361 appearances for the Manchester side, scoring 10 goals.

Silvestre, who debuted for French national side in 2001, has also made a total of 40 appearances for Les Bleus. Highlights of his international career so far are winning the Confederations Cup in both 2001 and 2003 and reaching the World Cup Final in 2006.

Mikael said on signing for the Gunners: “I’ve spent a large part of my career at United, the last nine years, and I’ll remember that time fondly but feel I’m ready for a new challenge. Arsenal is known for playing technical and skilful football, and has a young but experienced squad. I’m really excited about this next stage of my career, hopefully playing my part in helping the Club to new successes.” 

Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger said: “We have a strong squad but a young squad and Mikael’s versatility, experience and calibre will provide the extra depth we need to reinforce our challenge for honours this season. His defensive adaptability will serve us well and it’s a big plus that Mikael has top level experience and a great understanding of football in the Premier League.”

Mikael will join up with his team-mates immediately and will wear shirt number 18.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2008, 09:24:46 AM
What?

Typical Wenger - cards close to the chest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 21, 2008, 09:30:22 AM
Really don't know what to make of this, expereinced player yes but only a fringe player in his last days at Man U how poor is his form if John O'Shea is selected ahead of him  :o

Might be inspired and hopefully will keep Senderos out of the Arsenal team...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on August 21, 2008, 09:38:59 AM
I think he'll be a good adition to the squad.  He should be good enough to keep Senderos on the bench for a few games at least or maybe even play as a holding mid-fielder.

Oh, I didnt post it but that story was on arsenal.com
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 21, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
F**k this club is becoming a joke;
Thought Wengers policy was once over 30 a one year contract was offered - wtf are we taking utd rejects for anyway - says it all about our expectations this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 21, 2008, 12:11:43 PM
Initially i thought WTF when i saw that we had signed Silvestre but hopefully his signing will mean the end of Senderos at arsenal..Silvestre aint great but hes good cover to have at the back. Wenger surely has to make one more midfield signing before the window closes....i still think Alonso or Barry will come! Alonso and Cesc midfield sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 21, 2008, 01:35:27 PM
i still think Alonso or Barry will come! Alonso and Cesc midfield sounds good to me!

alonso and barry are both cup tied for the champions league so i dont think either will be signed now. maybe alonso in january
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on August 21, 2008, 04:44:19 PM
Bit of a surprise this? Did any money change hands? From a Utd point of view it suggests to me that Fergie fancies his young brazilian full back more than silvestre for cover for Evra this season. Who was the last player to go from OT to Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: kinghen on August 21, 2008, 11:16:22 PM
750,000 trnsfer fee, but he's injured at the minute, so thtas bischoff and silvestr singed whilst injures, i think its a bit of a risk, although his experience in the premiership might be good for our young squad,


ps viv anderson was the last playerto move directly between the clubs, but that was in the opposite direction, that was in 87 and was one of fergies 1st signings,


stil agree that we need to buy a centre-mid, also would b great, scoed 2 for spain last night i think???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2008, 01:34:35 AM
Sweet mother of god has anyone seen this?? What a twat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l9BFJYiPxA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l9BFJYiPxA&feature=related)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 22, 2008, 11:57:42 AM
McLaren definately is a complete ballox...never seen worse!

I think it said somewhere that brian kidd was last player to join Arsenal from United.longgggggg time ago
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on August 22, 2008, 12:21:06 PM
From arsenal.com

Jimmy Rimmer
Man Utd (1967-72): 46 apps - Arsenal (1973-76): 146 apps
The Lancashire born goalkeeper's Old Trafford highlight was a spot on the bench for the 1968 European Cup Final, but with his chances limited he went first on loan to Swansea City, before joining the Gunners. At Highbury he replaced the retired Bob Wilson as the Club's No 1. It was with Arsenal he won his solitary England cap. He left North London for Aston Villa.
Brian Kidd
Man Utd (1967-73): 264 apps, 70 goals - Arsenal (1974-76): 90 apps, 34 goals
Like Rimmer, Brian Kidd was part of the 1968 European Cup Final squad. His time with United, though, was much more successful than the stopper. His time with Arsenal was short and he headed back up north, this time to play for Manchester City. Kidd went on to form part of Sir Alex Ferguson's backroom staff.
Jim Leighton
Man Utd (1988-93): 94 apps - Arsenal (1991 loan): 0 apps
Leighton started his career at Aberdeen under Sir Alex Ferguson, and followed his manager to Manchester in 1998. Unfortunately Jim found life at United harder than he had in Scotland and found his chances limited by Les Sealey in goal. Arsenal was his first loan stop, that later included a time at Reading.
Matt Wicks
Man Utd (1995): 0 apps, 0 goals - Arsenal (1996): 0 apps, 0 goals
Wicks was touted as 'the next Tony Adams' having graduated from the FA Centre of Excellence. Despite an attachment to Arsenal, joined Manchester United in 1995. Court cases over the move ensued and Matt eventually returned to the Gunners without featuring at Old Trafford. A similar fate occured at Highbury with Wicks eventually joining Crewe Alexandra.
Mikael Silvestre
Man Utd (1999-2008): 361 apps, 10 goals - Arsenal (2008): 0 apps, 0 goals
Mikael enjoyed nine very successful years at Old Trafford, earning four Premier League winners medals. He became a fixture in the French national time while at Old Trafford and is Arsenal's fifth signing of the summer.


Wenger: ‘There is interest, always, in Barry'
By Richard Clarke
Arsène Wenger may still sign one more player before the transfer window closes and, to use his exact words, “there is interest, always,” in Gareth Barry.
On Wednesday, the Arsenal manager pulled off a surprise by bringing in Mikael Slivestre from Manchester United. The Frenchman can fulfil roles at centre back or left back but not in central midfield, the area in which Wenger had said he needs re-enforcement.
"I can surprise you sometimes, as I got one who you did not expect,” said the Arsenal manager at Thursday’s press conference. “And there still might be one more player coming in.
"You know the position, but I cannot tell you much more than that.” When asked directly about Barry, the manager replied: “There is interest always."
"I do not want to give you any names,” he went on. “But we are not in a desperate situation because we have Alex Song back from the Olympics, Abou Diaby does not look too far away and hopefully we can have good news from Tomas Rosicky in the next two weeks.
"We are not short, short but one more body is possible."
[Friday, August 22, 2008
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 23, 2008, 08:08:54 PM
pathetic result and pathetic display - when does the window close??
fearon will love fulham now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 23, 2008, 08:20:17 PM
that was the worse arsenal performance i'd say in five years, there was nothin der 2nite, but if it takes that wake up call for wenger 2sign a big player dis week, it may be worth it...if we had of won 2nite it jus would have papered over the cracks....very disapointin
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 23, 2008, 09:46:04 PM
Just highlighting how important fibreglass is to this arsenal team - walcott didnt impress much at all. On another day adebayor would have had a couple.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 23, 2008, 10:04:46 PM
Eboue and Denilson in CM says it all. What top side in Europe would have that as their midfield, even as 2nd choice?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 25, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
AC Milan have completed the signing of Arsenal defender Philippe Senderos on a one-year loan deal, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 25, 2008, 03:48:50 PM
AC Milan have completed the signing of Arsenal defender Philippe Senderos on a one-year loan deal, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.

i hope this is true....after saturdays performance a few others could follow! wenger needs to sign a decent midfielder asap

fair play to fulham they battled hard but i think if adebayors header had gone in instead of off the post we would have won the game...big improvement needed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 25, 2008, 04:30:31 PM
Senderos leaves for Milan


By Jonathan Chong on Monday, August 25, 2008
Defender Philippe Senderos has joined AC Milan on a one-year loan deal.

The Swiss international had fallen down the pecking order at the Emirates with the signing of former Manchester United defender Mikael Silvestre.

Senderos' career at Arsenal began as one of the more promising centre-backs in the world, but he failed to establish himself in the first team and made some costly errors.

He joins midfielder Mathieu Flamini, and the Italian club have the option of making the deal permanent with an agreed fee next summer.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on September 02, 2008, 08:19:29 AM
Im very worried how our season will pan out now, no additions to a squad that is severely lacking in midfield and defense...i trust arsene's judgement...just :S
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on September 09, 2008, 12:19:42 PM
Fantastic man of the mach performance from gilberto silva over the weekend anchoring the brazilian midfield in a their must win wc qualifier against chile.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 09, 2008, 11:47:33 PM
The next time Arsenal are drawn against Chile, we'll fairly regret it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2008, 09:37:24 AM
Another sign that when Arsenal are at full strength, there are few teams that'll match them. With Rosicky and Eduardo coming back before the end of the year and if RVP and Fabregas can stay injury free, there's nothing this side cannot achieve.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 17, 2008, 08:59:46 PM
game tonight is a bit stop start. i would take a point at this stage although, 3 are definately there for the taking
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 17, 2008, 11:26:24 PM
I like the new Arse away jersey
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2008, 12:20:23 AM
The jersey commemorates the Anfield '89 game.

Nervy today. Gallas has a knack of popping up with those type of match-saving goals. RVP on the wing didn't work. Although Walcott didn't see much play, he again never wasted a ball (19/19 were the stats I think). Still no wins out that part of the globe.

Amazed to see Wenger there after he buried his father yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 18, 2008, 11:29:37 AM
Amazed to see Wenger there after he buried his father yesterday.

just shows his dedication. He was very animated at the end with the 4th offical and the ref. He said it was over the added time (or lack of it). i thought it would have been over the penalty. Your man had hold of sagna jersey and just pulled them both down and the ref bought it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2008, 02:43:51 PM
Very soft penalty but worrying that Sagna was isolated on his own in that situation. Controlled possesion well and created chances, will be a tight group but as long as the Goons win their home games I think that point will ensure qualification.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 18, 2008, 02:53:48 PM
The jersey commemorates the Anfield '89 game.



Aye I was thinking it was from that season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 18, 2008, 05:09:20 PM
The jersey commemorates the Anfield '89 game.

Nervy today. Gallas has a knack of popping up with those type of match-saving goals. RVP on the wing didn't work. Although Walcott didn't see much play, he again never wasted a ball (19/19 were the stats I think). Still no wins out that part of the globe.

Amazed to see Wenger there after he buried his father yesterday.

Never heard that. Was it in the media?

A point away in Russia is a decent enough point IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 19, 2008, 09:35:59 PM
The jersey commemorates the Anfield '89 game.

Nervy today. Gallas has a knack of popping up with those type of match-saving goals. RVP on the wing didn't work. Although Walcott didn't see much play, he again never wasted a ball (19/19 were the stats I think). Still no wins out that part of the globe.

Amazed to see Wenger there after he buried his father yesterday.

Never heard that. Was it in the media?

have dynamo kiev moved to the russian league??

A point away in Russia is a decent enough point IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 20, 2008, 06:40:53 PM
That fat c**t Davies!!  If i ever got near him he wouldn't put in a tackle like that......If you cant play football then Fu*k off!!!

Really annoyed about that!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2008, 07:29:03 PM
3-1. Seem to have overcome the northern effect. Great cameo appearance from Walcott - the man is starting to deliver.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on September 20, 2008, 08:47:20 PM
Have to hand it to arsehole wingher he has done a top job at the gunners i love watching the whores and for the amount of money he has spent compared to some of those other clowns is amazing!! I would really like to see them win something as watching them is well worth the admission money, imagine paying a fortune every week to watch that chelsea shite it would depress the hell out of you, i get bored watching highlights of them f**ks never mind watching a whole game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 23, 2008, 04:11:07 PM
wonder what Wenger ever did to Platini?

from sky.com
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger admits he is stunned by Uefa president Michel Platini's attack on him in an interview with a French newspaper.

Platini, the head of European football's governing body, fired a couple of broadsides at the Arsenal manager during a frank interview with Grenoble daily Dauphine Libere.

The former France international slammed Wenger for having a business mentality rather than a football one.

And he also tore into the Gunners boss for calling for the introduction of video replays to rule on questionable refereeing decisions.

Wenger has been taken aback by Platini's criticisms.

Stunned
"I am stunned by the aggressive content of Platini's words," Wenger told L'Equipe."I am effectively a supporter of video assistance for referees, like all coaches, and I believe Uefa have an important role to play in this.

"I am for sporting justice and Uefa must be the guarantor of it."

Wenger added: "I am a supporter of good management of clubs, for financial equilibrium.

"And Uefa must equally support this idea. I am fighting for the future of the game and of football.

"I don't see why Uefa should take umbrage at ideas that are different from their own."

In Platini's interview with Dauphine Libere, Wenger's name was raised during a question about the introduction of video technology.


Blast
Platini replied: "I like to talk about football, him (Wenger) about business. We must stop with Wenger and all that."

Platini then said he hoped video assistance would never come into football, adding: "It would make me happy that Arsene Wenger never sees it."

Later in the interview, Platini again targeted Wenger when asked about his thoughts on Romanian side CFR Cluj's unexpected victory over Roma in the UEFA Champions League last week.

"That is what makes football so great," Platini said. "It is what people like Wenger do not want, little clubs beating the big clubs, because they want their business."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2008, 04:43:41 PM
http://msn.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_4183873,00.html?ocid=today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 23, 2008, 10:24:09 PM
6 v 0 some win for the arsenal youngsters!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 23, 2008, 10:27:28 PM
How good is your lad Vela??

will he see much time in the premier league this year, or is he more of one for the future?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: kinghen on September 24, 2008, 10:06:58 AM
How good is your lad Vela??

will he see much time in the premier league this year, or is he more of one for the future?

dont think he'll get that much playing time in the league tbf, bendtner got two goals  last night and still think he's 3rd choice after ade and rvp (untill eduardo gets back anyway)

i actually think that he is very much in the same mould as eduardo, natual goalscorer with great finishing ability, (he was the golden boot winner in the 2005 u-17 world cup finals)

but if he continues to play like that in the carling cup, i hope he does get a chance with the big boys!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on September 24, 2008, 11:26:27 AM
How good is your lad Vela??

will he see much time in the premier league this year, or is he more of one for the future?

absolute cracker on football manager
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on September 26, 2008, 11:27:06 AM
What do ye make of this plank?

http://www.goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=877301

Nolan: We Went After Theo

Bolton Wanderers captain Kevin Nolan has admitted he instructed his team-mates to target Arsenal youngster Theo Walcott during Saturday's clash at the Reebok...
Walcott came on as a second-half substitute in the Gunners' 3-1 victory over the Trotters, lighting up the game in typical fashion by providing the assist for Denilson's sealer.

The England winger is in the best form of his short career, and Nolan confessed that his defence were under orders to kick the jet-heeled teenager out of the game.

“I have never seen anybody as quick as Theo Walcott in my life,” he told The Sun. “I said to Jlloyd Samuel ‘Give him a little kick and see if he comes back at you!’”

Nolan's comments will no doubt enrage Arsene Wenger, as the Arsenal manager was livid with the similarly physical approach Dynamo Kiev took against Walcott during last week's Champions League clash.

But the Bolton skipper defended his side's tactics: “At the end of the day, it is a physical sport. We don’t want to be like basketballers.

“We are in the gym four or five days a week to build ourselves up to try to stand up to challenges like that.

“We are in danger of losing that side — the roughing up of people.”

Cecil Braun

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on September 26, 2008, 11:31:11 AM
TBH, I would expect most teams to be like this with Walcott
But to come out and say it shows the IQ of Nolan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 11:34:55 AM
Footballers should be banned from speaking to the media, and if they are allowed they should only be allowed to use the following phrases -

sick as a parrot
over the moon
we wuz robbed
do i not like that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on September 27, 2008, 07:03:52 PM
2-1 Hull  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 27, 2008, 07:28:23 PM
Full Time.
Arsenal put through Hull.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 27, 2008, 07:30:06 PM
Full Time.
Arsenal put through Hull.

How sad you must have had that typed out and then hit the button at the whistle!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 27, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
Had not. How long does it take to type 6 words?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on September 27, 2008, 07:34:46 PM
Jaysus!! Wenger will be like a divil tonight!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 27, 2008, 07:36:54 PM
I remember drinking with a couple of Hull fans in Birmingham in 1999. They were crying into their beer that Hull were about to go into administration at the bottom of the league.

Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 27, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
Had not. How long does it take to type 6 words?

Depends how many pints u have in you....Was watching the match and that msg came up bout 4 secs after the final whistle....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 27, 2008, 07:46:28 PM
Had not. How long does it take to type 6 words?

Depends how many pints u have in you....Was watching the match and that msg came up bout 4 secs after the final whistle....
So you think it takes me 4 seconds to press the button?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 27, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
Had not. How long does it take to type 6 words?

Depends how many pints u have in you....Was watching the match and that msg came up bout 4 secs after the final whistle....
So you think it takes me 4 seconds to press the button?
as i said depends how many pints you have in you.....!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 27, 2008, 07:52:42 PM
Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 27, 2008, 07:54:26 PM
Sounds stunned.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 27, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
Maybe this has been discussed before but why do Arsenal always seem to get the late kickoff on a saturday.I might be mistaken but is that the 3rd or 4th weekend in a row?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 27, 2008, 10:26:39 PM
I like thon Hull manager.  Seems to know his stuff as opposed to the normal English manager.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/match_of_the_day/7640108.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on September 28, 2008, 08:24:47 PM
Your useless lot cost me £300 win yesterday!  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on September 28, 2008, 08:26:22 PM
I know i fella it cost £2.5k
Title: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: T Fearon on September 29, 2008, 09:01:16 AM
FFS, Hull City at home :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

With Paul Mc Shane in their defence as well :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: nifan on September 29, 2008, 09:03:47 AM
Tony I am shocked you would open a topic to insult another team at the moment, when your own is the worst int he premiership!

Arsenal deserved their defeat though, Hull played some great stuff! Class goal from geovanni
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Stalin on September 29, 2008, 09:31:46 AM
        1   2   1   Chelsea   6   4   2   0   12   3   9   14
   2   3   1   Liverpool   6   4   2   0   7   2   5   14
   3   4   1   Aston Villa   6   4   1   1   12   8   4   13
   4   1   3   Arsenal   6   4   0   2   12   4   8   12
   5   6   1   West Ham United   6   4   0   2   13   10   3   12
   6   7   1   Hull City   6   3   2   1   9   11   -2   11
   7   10   3   Blackburn Rovers   6   3   1   2   8   12   -4   10
   8   5   3   Manchester City   6   3   0   3   16   9   7   9
   9   13   4   Portsmouth   6   3   0   3   7   12   -5   9
   10   14   4   Wigan Athletic   6   2   2   2   9   5   4   8
   11   15   4   Manchester United   5   2   2   1   6   4   2   8
   12   17   5   West Bromwich Albion   6   2   1   3   6   7   -1   7
   13   8   5   Sunderland   6   2   1   3   6   8   -2   7
   14   9   5   Everton   6   2   1   3   9   13   -4   7
   15   11   4   Fulham   5   2   0   3   5   6   -1   6
   16   12   4   Middlesbrough   6   2   0   4   6   9   -3   6
   17   16   1   Bolton Wanderers   6   1   1   4   5   9   -4   4
   18   18      Stoke City   6   1   1   4   7   12   -5   4
   19   19      Newcastle United   6   1   1   4   5   11   -6   4
   20   20      Tottenham Hotspur   6   0   2   4   4   9   -5   2
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: supersub on September 29, 2008, 09:34:58 AM
awfully steady table :D
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: ziggysego on September 29, 2008, 11:01:32 AM
Jesus Tony, let it go. You're showing yourself up to be a right old fool.
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2008, 11:22:22 AM
Grammar police ne naw ne naw. When talking about TF's foolishness, surely all the tenses are applicable ziggy? By only using the present, you have inadvertantlyimplied that this is a recent behavioural trait :)
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 11:23:43 AM
Being such a lucky sod (copmpetitions etc) , how the fcuk is Fearon such a jinx?
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: ziggysego on September 29, 2008, 11:31:59 AM
Gammar police ne naw ne naw. When talking about TF's foolishness, surely all the tenses are applicable ziggy? By only using the present, you have inadvertantlyimplied that this is a recent behavioural trait :)

Gammar?
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2008, 11:43:09 AM
Is it too late to say that that was intentional, in the hope the real grammar police would jump on me and take the pressure off TF?

 :)
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Square Ball on September 29, 2008, 01:02:41 PM
Tony are you trying to deflect from the fact that Spurs really are crap!!!!
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2008, 03:13:36 PM
The most spectacular stat from this weekend, is that this is Tottenhams worst league start in 34 years. 34 years!!

That is impressive going, considering some of the atrocious spurs starts to the season - particularly in the last 5 years.

2 points from 18 with hull coming up next weekend - there is no end in sight for the white heart lane misery train.
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 03:22:59 PM
The most spectacular stat from this weekend, is that this is Tottenhams worst league start in 34 years. 34 years!!

Thought it was 53 years
Anyway, is it any wonder. They have sold 3 strikers in the past year & a half or so and replaced them with Pavlyuachenko (sp).
Then after the game on Sunday Poyet said the reason Bent was put on to replace the Russian is because they cant play together, even though they were 2 down :D
I mean WTF
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: ziggysego on September 29, 2008, 03:31:37 PM
2 points from 18 with hull coming up next weekend - there is no end in sight for the white heart lane misery train.

With Tony laughing at Arsenal today...... this has the making to be Spur's biggest defeat of the year.
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: stew on September 29, 2008, 03:35:32 PM
Eh, why is it wrong for somebody to laugh at their arch enemies defeat ????

The spuds are going down unless they develop a backbone but I would have thought a spuds fan has the right to laugh at the pitiful Arse getting beaten by Hull.

Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: ziggysego on September 29, 2008, 03:44:03 PM
Pitiful Arsenal?
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 29, 2008, 03:51:08 PM
Team in 20th laughing a a team in 4th  ???
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 03:52:24 PM
Would rather be an Arsenal fan now than a spud
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: stew on September 29, 2008, 06:01:59 PM
Would rather be an Arsenal fan now than a spud


You cant help being a spud fan, you cant switch off if you have supported a team like fearon has all his days.

You have no idea how many times i would have liked to forget about Armagh football, you cant, it sucks you in no matter how many times it breaks your heart.

That said, gaelic is a different animal than sawker, i cannot imagine people being that into the paid mercenary game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gaaboard on September 29, 2008, 06:25:21 PM
The "Lets all laugh at Arse-nil" topic has been merged into this one as there was no need to start a new topic.
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 29, 2008, 06:29:02 PM
Would rather be an Arsenal fan now than a spud



That said, gaelic is a different animal than sawker, i cannot imagine people being that into the paid mercenary game.

If you have been supporting a team for 25+ years its very easy to be "that into" such a club...I don't see why you can't imagine that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 07:56:33 PM
Jaysus this had dropped to page 14.

Anyways, in Turkey.

No defence.

RVP dropped.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 07:57:58 PM
1-0 Adebayor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
2-0 Walcott

2 goals in a minute
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 08:02:15 PM
Should've been three.

Fenebache's backs cat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on October 21, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 21, 2008, 08:13:34 PM
Some score line with the game 30 mins old.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
3-1. Flippin stream died at 2-0.

Got it back at: http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/327976
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 08:38:30 PM
1-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2391001
2-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2391019
2-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2391035
3-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2391041
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on October 21, 2008, 09:51:18 PM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1384825// (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1384825//)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on October 22, 2008, 01:54:36 AM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.

Let me guess...1998,overmars??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on October 22, 2008, 05:42:27 AM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.

Let me guess...1998,overmars??

to win the league  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 22, 2008, 09:06:27 AM
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et me guess...1998,overmars??

Happy days.....

Great result and a win in the next round could ensuire qualification. The Turks were fairly poor defensively, how Roberto Carlos's star has fallen..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on October 22, 2008, 11:25:34 AM
Good performance going forward last night but very very poor in defence.  We have no chance of winning anything this year with no enforcer in midfield and a decent centre half who is a bit of a savage but sure we have known that for three years and wenger does nothing really pissed of with him now thinks it time for him to move up stairs as director of football and let a young manager in who will spend like a David Moyes type.  Silvestre looks to have lost 5 yards of pace since his manure days. Diaby was impressive though would like to see him in for Denilson for a few games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on October 22, 2008, 02:50:24 PM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.

Let me guess...1998,overmars??
No. Fenerbache bate United 1 nil. I posted a link to the goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on October 23, 2008, 12:07:23 AM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.

Let me guess...1998,overmars??

to win the league  ;D
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Yea was that the game..Father nearly got killed for celebrating when Arsenal scored....I would of helped them that day to  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 07:34:06 AM
First big game of the season tonight. When the fixtures first came out, it was feasible to believe that Arsenal would be sitting on full points (27) when meeting Spurs. Out of the 9 games played so far, they'll dropped points in three: Hull, Fulham and and Sunderland. It was the easiest start to a season in living memory but to gather 19 points from 27 is disappointing given all the tough games are about to arrive thick and fast: Spurs tonight, Utd on the 8th and Chelsea on the 30th with the likes of Villa and City in between.

Tonight is tough given the circumstances but Arsenal are a much better side and playing at home should be enough to see the three points in the bank. He has been rotating the strikeforce in recent games, with Adebayor rested for most of the West Ham game, RVP before that and Walcott as well. I'd settle for:

Almunia,
Sagna, Gallas, Toure, Clichy,
Walcott  Fabregas, Diaby, Nasri
Adebayor Van Persie

In terms of what AW's thinking, Silvestre seems to be getting the nod over Toure recently and maybe Denilson ahead of Diaby.

Sink the Yids.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on October 29, 2008, 08:18:59 AM
Cant wait for this game tonight anything less than a convincing win will be unacceptable.  It may be a derby but the spuds are bottom of the league for a reason because they are worst team in the league.  There is also the small matter of revenge for the Carling cup last year which Adebayor talks about in the Mirror this morning.  He says he has scored 7 goals against spuds in six games and would love if it was 10 in seven games after tonight thats the spirit.
On a side issue I have a sneaky feeling oul donkey might mastermind a first defeat for Liverpool tonight which would really leave us right back in the mix even after such a poor start.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 08:18:40 PM
Bentley screamer 0-1.

Spurs on top in general.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 08:42:36 PM
FISHFACE!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:02:40 PM
H-T 1-1.

Spurs working hard and deserved to take the lead. One hell of a strike from Bentley; the sort of goal regularly scored against Arsenal this season. However, after the goal the Gunners really turned the screw and pinned Spuds back for the guts of 25 minutes solid before Silvestre nodded in from their 290th corner. The final 5 mins or so were simply played out with Arsenal taking a breather and Spurs refusing to attack.

Walcott has been lively but extremely frustrating. His final pass/shot taking can be chronic at times, but at least he's still looking for the ball. RVP has been disastrous again. Hard to justify his starting place at the minute and has that disinterested appearance again. Fabregas is a delight to watch. Towards the end of the half, Spurs stopped even attempting to dispossess him. His control on the ball is something else and he's trying to probe an opening. Walcott's looking like the only outlet but as we know Adebayor can be dangerous. Nasri is also seeing a lot of the ball a la Fabregas and is putting in a decent display as is Sagna, Clichy and Fishface.

Spurs are parking the bus. They don't seem to have much pace in order to hurt Clichy and Sagna on the break though thon big fella up front seems to have put the willies up Almunia. He's punching everything.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:07:56 PM
2-1 Gallas 46 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:25:09 PM
Jays thon's a serious facial twitch Redknapp has. Adebayor had a gilt-edged chance to bury the game.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:26:52 PM
3-1 what a ball by van persie ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:28:23 PM
3-2 bent...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:28:54 PM
Deadly ball. Harry'll have Gomez out the door in the morn.

Almunia may follow....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:29:52 PM
van persie 4-2. lets finish the f$$kin job this time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:31:32 PM
Need to bury them.

Edit: How much would you give for another goal - it'd be their biggest defeat of the season. It's already the most they've conceded in a game.....new dawn indeed!

Edit: How does the delete button work?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:51:14 PM
4-3 jenas. bad slip by clichy. good finsih
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:55:29 PM
4-4... disaster
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: FermGael on October 29, 2008, 09:55:54 PM
How many threads will he start.........................
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:56:52 PM
Smply unbelieveable - the majority of the Spurs supporters had left..........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on October 29, 2008, 09:57:36 PM
Need to bury them.

Edit: How much would you give for another goal - it'd be their biggest defeat of the season. It's already the most they've conceded in a game.....new dawn indeed!


Are you Fearon in disguise?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:58:24 PM
Could be edit-of-the-year.

Some kick in the arse for Arse. Had the chances to bury the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on October 29, 2008, 10:02:47 PM
Heartbreak!!!!!!!!!!!!! fcukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 10:04:34 PM
The only positive is up to third in the league and Spuds still bottom. Not that it makes one feel good right now.

Some slip by Clichy, 2 Almunia mistakes and a rebound off the post....Harry's the devil. Eboue and Fabregas had the chances to kill the ball a couple for times after the 7th goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 29, 2008, 10:10:26 PM
Jamie Redknapp has just declared that David Bentley is a "genius", did you ever hear such indulgent shite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 10:14:24 PM
Cannot see Arsenal sustaining any type of title challenge. Although Spuds had 5 chances and took 4, Arsenal look extremely vunerable in CD. Gallas simply isn't a leader, but I don't know who is in that team.

6 points off the lead but still to meet a top side. Doesn't bode well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 29, 2008, 10:25:21 PM
Cannot see Arsenal sustaining any type of title challenge. Although Spuds had 5 chances and took 4, Arsenal look extremely vunerable in CD. Gallas simply isn't a leader, but I don't know who is in that team.

6 points off the lead but still to meet a top side. Doesn't bode well.


Fabregas?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 10:30:12 PM
He'd be the No.1 candidate I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 29, 2008, 10:30:53 PM
I was watching Sky Sports News.  Got to 3-1 and put my boot through the TV.  Came on here thinking I'd see O'Neill gloating and realise it's 4-4??????  Get in!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goal of the Season David Bentley.  No doubt about it!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Old Bill on October 29, 2008, 10:32:29 PM
2154: GOAL Arsenal 4-4 Tottenham
Did I really just write that? That's the most amazing thing I've ever seen. Luka Modric hits a stunning, dipping, outrageous volley from the edge of the box that flies over Manuel Almunia and cannons back off the post and substitute Aaron Lennon is on hand to tap in the rebound. Utterly, utterly incredible scenes.

Fuckin fantastic!

You are a fairweather fan The Gs Man!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 29, 2008, 10:45:33 PM


You are a fairweather fan The Gs Man!


Fairweather feck all!!!  My heads been wrecked this past two months.  The wife left me and took the kids with her.  I've turned into a right grumpy b**tard.  Only Harry has come in and steadied the ship I'd be found lying in some backstreet with a binliner round me to keep the cold out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 29, 2008, 10:47:40 PM
Spurs have to be luckiest side in the world, Arsenal completely outplayed them bar a 15 minute spell at the start. Arsenal will win nothing but Spurs are so poor I can see them been relegated Arsenal could have scored 10 goals tonight. Very frustrating!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 11:03:41 PM
Good game all the same  - 8 different scorers.

Did you see the Spurs fan who got caught up in the goal celebration?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/default.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Old Bill on October 29, 2008, 11:07:05 PM
Spurs have to be luckiest side in the world, Arsenal completely outplayed them bar a 15 minute spell at the start. Arsenal will win nothing but Spurs are so poor I can see them been relegated Arsenal could have scored 10 goals tonight. Very frustrating!!!

Dry your eyes man!
build up first arsenal goal: bents foul no foul given
1st arsenal goal: goalie howler.
2nd arse goal: no foul for free for van persie and huddlestone hard done by.
4th goal: Hutton mistake let in adebayor.
Spurs had lucky goals too but that post of yours was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 08:52:13 AM
Spurs creating absolutly nothing after the adrenaline died down, Bentleys goal was a 1 in a million shot where Denillson was fouled firstly, the 2nd goal was again a speculative shot which Almunia made a balls off, the third goal, great finsh but was a mistake by Clichy and the last goal was a long ball with another speculative shot that was deflected. All jammy goals, Spurs were completely played off the park for the majority and only myopic Spurs supporters would deny that.

One cannot deny that Spurs are relegation fodder, they are bottom of the premier league hence the worst side in the premiership hence I can see them been relegated and with that defence I didn't anything last night to convince me otherwsie.

 ::)
Title: From Yahoooooooo
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2008, 09:24:38 AM
Modern history

Thu Oct 30 08:58AM
Pile on! Here lies a story of two football clubs who reside in North London. One wears red, the other wears white; one is usually good, the other usually shi... well let us not finish that little limerick.

But let's look at the pair: first you have Arsenal - in just the last 10 years they have won three league titles and claimed five second place finishes; they have become Champions League regulars; and they are third in the Premier League just six points behind leaders Liverpool.

Then you have Tottenham - they have not won a league title since 1961 or indeed finished in the top two since 1963; their fans have never heard heavenly voices singing "the champions" at White Hart Lane on a Wednesday night; and they currently lie bottom of the Premier League with just six points all season.

Last night the two sides met and it was a draw - who would you rather support?

Well this morning the birds are singing, the sun is shining, and all feels well with the world if you are a Tottenham fan; while Arsenal fans are scratching their heads trying to think of an excuse that will allow them to call in sick for work.

Those Gooners who are brave enough to solider in and face their baiting Tottenham mates will no doubt regale the history lesson above to their success famished rivals, but the Spurs fans won't care.

Such is the beauty of football, the beauty of the derby, the beauty of the last minute equaliser.

Sorry Arsenal fans, but you're just going to have to suck this one up.

Forget Jesus, Allah, Vishnu and Buddah - for one week at least the only messiah that counts down at White Hart Lane is good old 'Arry.

Arsene Wenger said before last night's epic encounter that he thought Spurs were too hasty in their sacking of Juande Ramos, but it is hard to imagine there is a football fan in the country who thinks Tottenham would have got anything from the Emirates last night had the Spaniard still been charge.

Tottenham had a belief and a spirit about them throughout the game that has been sadly lacking all season. David Bentley and Luka Modric looked fresh and invigorated after their comatose starts to their careers at White Hart Lane. And Spurs might have even won the game if they had a decent goalkeeper - heck they might have even won the match with Paul Robinson between the sticks.

ED has laughed with the rest of country at Spurs' calamitous start to the season, and will laugh even harder when Redknapp's pixie dust wears off and they are relegated, but credit where credit is due - for now we will let them enjoy their moment.

A small minority of Spurs fans though must be having mixed feelings about last night's escapades.  Yes, we are of course talking about those few fans who left the stadium before the final whistle.

One painful lesson that those moronic Liverpool fans who flew all the way to Istanbul for the Champions League final in 2005 only to then leave at half-time when they saw their side go 3-0 down to Milan will tell you is that you should NEVER leave a match before the final whistle if there is even a slither of hope that your side might make a miraculous comeback.

It is understandable that when your team is 4-2 down to your main rivals with a minute to go that you might be tempted to end the agony early; and judging by the amount of empty seats that could be seen in the Tottenham end when the late goals went in lots of Spurs fans took that option.

The majority stayed of to be fair, it is not like the stand was as empty as the Jonathon Ross studio will be this Friday or anything, but how must those fans who did leave be feeling this morning knowing that they missed a sensational comeback from their team that will be talked about for years to come?

Almost as sick as the Arsenal fans I'd imagine.

Almost!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on October 30, 2008, 09:27:09 AM
What a pleasure to shit on your parade with an unsettled team and new management. Cant wait for the return at WHL at which stage we'll have a fully settled team and be in top form as well. At least the Goons fans might have woken up last night when they realised for once an entertaining team was playing. I heard a few of them broke out into a whisper! :D
Title: Re: From Yahoooooooo
Post by: corn02 on October 30, 2008, 09:34:31 AM
Modern history

Thu Oct 30 08:58AM
Pile on! Here lies a story of two football clubs who reside in North London. One wears red, the other wears white; one is usually good, the other usually shi... well let us not finish that little limerick.

But let's look at the pair: first you have Arsenal - in just the last 10 years they have won three league titles and claimed five second place finishes; they have become Champions League regulars; and they are third in the Premier League just six points behind leaders Liverpool.

Then you have Tottenham - they have not won a league title since 1961 or indeed finished in the top two since 1963; their fans have never heard heavenly voices singing "the champions" at White Hart Lane on a Wednesday night; and they currently lie bottom of the Premier League with just six points all season.

Last night the two sides met and it was a draw - who would you rather support?

Well this morning the birds are singing, the sun is shining, and all feels well with the world if you are a Tottenham fan; while Arsenal fans are scratching their heads trying to think of an excuse that will allow them to call in sick for work.

Those Gooners who are brave enough to solider in and face their baiting Tottenham mates will no doubt regale the history lesson above to their success famished rivals, but the Spurs fans won't care.

Such is the beauty of football, the beauty of the derby, the beauty of the last minute equaliser.

Sorry Arsenal fans, but you're just going to have to suck this one up.

Forget Jesus, Allah, Vishnu and Buddah - for one week at least the only messiah that counts down at White Hart Lane is good old 'Arry.

Arsene Wenger said before last night's epic encounter that he thought Spurs were too hasty in their sacking of Juande Ramos, but it is hard to imagine there is a football fan in the country who thinks Tottenham would have got anything from the Emirates last night had the Spaniard still been charge.

Tottenham had a belief and a spirit about them throughout the game that has been sadly lacking all season. David Bentley and Luka Modric looked fresh and invigorated after their comatose starts to their careers at White Hart Lane. And Spurs might have even won the game if they had a decent goalkeeper - heck they might have even won the match with Paul Robinson between the sticks.

ED has laughed with the rest of country at Spurs' calamitous start to the season, and will laugh even harder when Redknapp's pixie dust wears off and they are relegated, but credit where credit is due - for now we will let them enjoy their moment.

A small minority of Spurs fans though must be having mixed feelings about last night's escapades.  Yes, we are of course talking about those few fans who left the stadium before the final whistle.

One painful lesson that those moronic Liverpool fans who flew all the way to Istanbul for the Champions League final in 2005 only to then leave at half-time when they saw their side go 3-0 down to Milan will tell you is that you should NEVER leave a match before the final whistle if there is even a slither of hope that your side might make a miraculous comeback.

It is understandable that when your team is 4-2 down to your main rivals with a minute to go that you might be tempted to end the agony early; and judging by the amount of empty seats that could be seen in the Tottenham end when the late goals went in lots of Spurs fans took that option.

The majority stayed of to be fair, it is not like the stand was as empty as the Jonathon Ross studio will be this Friday or anything, but how must those fans who did leave be feeling this morning knowing that they missed a sensational comeback from their team that will be talked about for years to come?

Almost as sick as the Arsenal fans I'd imagine.

Almost!

Ehh? where is this soming from. The same halftime were a handful left like any game and the crowd sung 'you'll never walk alone' n masse?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on October 30, 2008, 09:42:22 AM
Fabregas-bag picks his week to claim that Arsenal Women would beat Spurs!   :D

Ranks alongside Hansen's "You'll win nothing with kids" and Keegans "Only one team will win it now & that's England!"  remarks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hectorsheroes on October 30, 2008, 09:56:05 AM
Fair play to Spurs - you drew a match - cue wild celebrations.

Yes Arsenal threw it away and have only themselves to blame and the fans rightly feel sick but spare us the Spurs goading and Fabregas didn't actually say what was reported. You drew a match that Arsenal contrived to throw away courtesy of several mistakes
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on October 30, 2008, 10:05:21 AM
Jesus do you expect them not to celebrate that result - they were dead and buried ffs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on October 30, 2008, 01:34:18 PM

How bad a keeper is almunia?

am i right in saying he is arsenal vice captain?

why o why have arsenal not got a defensive midfielder?

when did united, chelsea or liverpool last concede 4?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 01:47:58 PM
March 20th 2008 Chelsea 4 - Spurs 4  ::)

Some people really should try better
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on October 30, 2008, 02:08:38 PM
Have to say I am a follower of Arsenal (Blacburn supporter) and I do admire the quality of player they have and the way they play football but I seriously think Wenger has lost the plot.

Silvestre is a liability at the back as well as Gallas not to mention Clichy (although a fabulous player btw) who is always liable to make mistakes in big games that cost results. Allied to that the lack of a proper Captain, Fabregas was mooted previously but he gve the ball away with a minute left last night when he should have played keep ball in the corner. Then you have the lack of a proper holding midfielder and Arsenal are just going to haemorrhage goals for the season. In fairness people have been waiting for Wenger to get the blend right for almost 4 years now and somebody needs to have a word in his ear. Arsenal will not win anything the way things are going!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2008, 02:12:58 PM
Have to say I am a follower of Arsenal (Blacburn supporter) and I do admire the quality of player they have and the way they play football but I seriously think Wenger has lost the plot.

Silvestre is a liability at the back as well as Gallas not to mention Clichy (although a fabulous player btw) who is always liable to make mistakes in big games that cost results. Allied to that the lack of a proper Captain, Fabregas was mooted previously but he gve the ball away with a minute left last night when he should have played keep ball in the corner. Then you have the lack of a proper holding midfielder and Arsenal are just going to haemorrhage goals for the season. In fairness people have been waiting for Wenger to get the blend right for almost 4 years now and somebody needs to have a word in his ear. Arsenal will not win anything the way things are going!!

Clichy's mistake was out of character, he is the best LB in the PL by a margin in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 02:14:36 PM
Fair enough post SE but other than Clichy's slip last night when were these other mistakes that you talk about for Clichy and Gallas?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on October 30, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
Clichy's mistake was out of character, he is the best LB in the PL by a margin in my opinion.

No chance, Evra is a far better player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2008, 02:20:19 PM
Clichy's mistake was out of character, he is the best LB in the PL by a margin in my opinion.

No chance, Evra is a far better player

He isnt
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on October 30, 2008, 02:20:43 PM
March 20th 2008 Chelsea 4 - Spurs 4  ::)

Some people really should try better

there were three strands to that question...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 02:32:07 PM
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when did united, chelsea or liverpool last concede 4?

 ???

So assuming want the answer for all three, I think Man U was two seasons ago Blackburn beat them 4-3 and for Liverpool (a very defensive team) I think Arsenal beat them 6-3 in 2007. Really fail to see your point Arsenal before last nights game had conceded the same amount of goals as Liverpool but with a much better goals for record.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on October 30, 2008, 02:36:30 PM

arsena concede far too many goals. as has been said about them for two years or more now, they need a keeper, a dm and a centre half
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 04:53:22 PM
Fair enough post SE but other than Clichy's slip last night when were these other mistakes that you talk about for Clichy and Gallas?

Gallas' behaviour as captain against Birmingham last year was a mistake IMHO. Also I think that perhaps Clichy made an error in that game too, although I don't agree that young Clichy is a 'problem' for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 05:13:11 PM
He was behaviour was shocking but considering the circumstances he can be excused and is hardly a mistake, inappropiate yes mistake no. Clichy played a loose pass in that game recovered well but the referee made a shocking decision and awarded a penalty to Birmingham.

Those two are not Senderos, Arsenal's back four are very dependable but suffer from a lack of height and when defending a lead will sit too deep and that height problem then becomes an issue, needless to say corners and set-pieces are the ruination of Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 06:46:03 PM
He was behaviour was shocking but considering the circumstances he can be excused and is hardly a mistake, inappropiate yes mistake no. Clichy played a loose pass in that game recovered well but the referee made a shocking decision and awarded a penalty to Birmingham.

Those two are not Senderos, Arsenal's back four are very dependable but suffer from a lack of height and when defending a lead will sit too deep and that height problem then becomes an issue, needless to say corners and set-pieces are the ruination of Arsenal.

Just noticed that it's Stoke and Rory Delap this Saturday. I'd say the tabloids will be milking this angle for Saturday morning's previews.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2008, 06:51:08 PM
Exactly NT. Dreading that. Hopefully there'll be 3-4 in the other net.

An all-French back 4 - not the force (as a nation) as they were - coincided with Arsene's best years.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on October 30, 2008, 09:30:03 PM
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Fair play to Spurs - you drew a match - cue wild celebrations.

In the same way Arsenal do when they draw against United?  ;)
Title: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: T Fearon on November 01, 2008, 05:06:12 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Square Ball on November 01, 2008, 05:13:37 PM
but they scored, should that not be Arse-one
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on November 01, 2008, 05:15:02 PM
Hmmm. A hidden mod.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 01, 2008, 05:17:42 PM
It's you hardstation!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on November 01, 2008, 05:21:42 PM
Ah feck. Sorry, Tony, I had to merge them there posts. We can't be having that type of thing on this here board thingy, ya silly big bollox.
Signed: hardstation - Gaaboardmoderator99.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 01, 2008, 05:23:53 PM
More like Agent 99
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: hardstation on November 01, 2008, 05:35:38 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I agree, Tony, it is very funny. Nothing much more to say.

To quote saffron sam, "Feckin editing posts is great".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 01, 2008, 05:54:05 PM
just when i thought the week could not get any worse.  i am afraid man utd next saturday will be a masacree. With van persie suspended, walcott and adebayor injured things do not look good. we would be llukcy to escape with a draw
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 01, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Bloody depressing made worse by the fact that I was watching the whole thing live on the net!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2008, 06:32:34 PM
I'm out of it on stout.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on November 01, 2008, 07:29:05 PM
Time to whack the Ardbeg into ye.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on November 01, 2008, 07:33:06 PM
Pass the bottle :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hardstation on November 01, 2008, 07:36:49 PM
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"Everything will be ok"
 :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2008, 07:37:53 PM
I'm afraid Arsene no longer knows  :(

He'll have to buy in January, will make or break him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 01, 2008, 07:41:56 PM
di*kheads beat my bet. total nob heads. serious contenders????? my arse
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Owenmoresider on November 02, 2008, 02:03:47 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Beaten by Stoke, plus picking up injuries, silly red cards, and another Almunia blunder. Marvellous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on November 02, 2008, 03:35:21 PM
we are pathetic and need to spend big time.
perhaps wenger has lost the dressing room - no doubt we will hear something on this over the week. The points we hae dropped this season are inexcusable and is it time for changes throughout the club?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on November 03, 2008, 02:15:40 PM
I hope we lose the next five games so the board are forced into taking action against Wenger.  He is a joke and a disgrace.  He has turned us into a laughing stock who no longer can strike fear into any team Stoke were relishing the change to place us as spineless and softies were just some of the words they used to describe us. 
I am now convinced Wenger is not the great coach I thought he was.  All the titles he won he had a defence that he inherited who were awesome.  He has not replaced any of them with any quality.  He is good offensive coach but has not a clue about defending so we are paying the price.  We will win nothing ever again with this clown as manger.  Really hate Wenger and the sooner he moves up stairs the better.   We are leaderless both on and off the Field.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 03, 2008, 03:47:30 PM
I hope we lose the next five games so the board are forced into taking action against Wenger.  He is a joke and a disgrace.  He has turned us into a laughing stock who no longer can strike fear into any team Stoke were relishing the change to place us as spineless and softies were just some of the words they used to describe us. 
I am now convinced Wenger is not the great coach I thought he was.  All the titles he won he had a defence that he inherited who were awesome.  He has not replaced any of them with any quality.  He is good offensive coach but has not a clue about defending so we are paying the price.  We will win nothing ever again with this clown as manger.  Really hate Wenger and the sooner he moves up stairs the better.   We are leaderless both on and off the Field.

 ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2008, 07:24:02 PM
Arsenal have sort-of managed to get away with it. Despite dropping 5 points from 6, they still only find themselves 6 off the lead. Wenger says this season could be more about beating the top-guns for his side in order to maintain some kind of challenge. Saturday morning's game v Manure is massive.

Black November is an Arsenal trait. I still believe in Arsene.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 03, 2008, 10:06:34 PM
Arsenal have sort-of managed to get away with it. Despite dropping 5 points from 6, they still only find themselves 6 off the lead. Wenger says this season could be more about beating the top-guns for his side in order to maintain some kind of challenge. Saturday morning's game v Manure is massive.

Black November is an Arsenal trait. I still believe in Arsene.

And tonight's game helps too!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 03, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
Arsenal have sort-of managed to get away with it. Despite dropping 5 points from 6, they still only find themselves 6 off the lead. Wenger says this season could be more about beating the top-guns for his side in order to maintain some kind of challenge. Saturday morning's game v Manure is massive.

Black November is an Arsenal trait. I still believe in Arsene.

And tonight's game helps too!

Depending on their aspirations for this season.........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 03, 2008, 11:05:37 PM
Just discovered I have Arsenal TV free!

34 mins gone Arsenal reserves 0 Fulham reserves 0.

All small fast skillful players, I would like to see a few more Viera's and proper Centre halves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 03, 2008, 11:12:34 PM
Goal Arsenal

Brilliant 30 yards strike by some one called Amaury Bischoff.

Age 21
Born France
Position Midfield
Height 3 foot 3 inches.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 05, 2008, 04:37:01 PM
Does anyone know where I could view the Gunners or Celtic V Man U online?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 05, 2008, 07:16:32 PM
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=football


Try here to watch the match
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2008, 07:32:59 PM
Big changes from le boss. Great to see it. Almunia huffing.

Ramsey to shake up European football tonight. Or we'll lose 2-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2008, 09:40:45 PM
If I had tits, they'd be off me. Clean. Bored.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 01:27:58 AM
How did Fabianski play O'Neill?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 06, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
I see Wenger is blaming referees again after last nights game, has he got a point?  Are Gooners being targeted as 'soft touches' by opponents?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 10:29:49 AM
I think there is little doubt that people see Gallas' men as soft touches. Could the refs protect them more? Maybe they could but blaming the refs is only a diversion tactic by Wenger, and a shrewd move too. The spotlight and thus the pressure is now firmly on the man in the middle this Saturday morning to be watching for challanges that are deisgned to intimidate the Goons.

I don't think O'Neill, Dinny and co would argue that Arsenal badly lack leadership primarilly but also a ball winning midfielder which is a by word for 'dirty w***e', and a centre half. Possibly a keeper too, but what I seen of Fabianski might suggest he's the answer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 06, 2008, 11:41:40 AM
I think there is little doubt that people see Gallas' men as soft touches. Could the refs protect them more? Maybe they could but blaming the refs is only a diversion tactic by Wenger, and a shrewd move too. The spotlight and thus the pressure is now firmly on the man in the middle this Saturday morning to be watching for challanges that are deisgned to intimidate the Goons.

I don't think O'Neill, Dinny and co would argue that Arsenal badly lack leadership primarilly but also a ball winning midfielder which is a by word for 'dirty w***e', and a centre half. Possibly a keeper too, but what I seen of Fabianski might suggest he's the answer.

On the button, I'm actually disappointed Fabregas has stood up and shown leadership qualities, I always thought he was captain elect. RVP and Clichy to me seem to the only ones with a bit of bite at the moment.

To paraphrase Sgt. Red O'Neill 'I have got a bad feeling about this Saturday'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 01:02:08 PM
I actually have a funny feeling Arsenal could get something from Saturday's game. These games tend to not go the way it's expected to in the build up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2008, 08:10:36 PM
How did Fabianski play O'Neill?

Not really tested. One poor decision that was almost costly.

Always looked forward to the Utd games, more so than any others. Did the double over them in 06/07, a draw and defeat last year so it has been fairly even in recent years.

However, crapping myself a wee bit about this. The last time Arsenal played Utd depleted was the 6-1 game 8-9 years ago. On the other hand, the pressure's off somewhat (2-1 odds at home). Time for a wee bit of freedom from a side stifled with frustration. Fabregas has been a shell of the player he was during the summer - probably serious burnout given his age. Can Bendtner step up to the mark? He's cocky enough to think he can. Walcott's injury has been kept under wraps so I wouldn't be surprised to see him tomorrow. Utd at full strength mostl