The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

I  love the use of the word "interfering".   

Were The NY Times "interfering" when they edited a story mid morning to take out unfavorable opinion on Hillary after a call from the Hillary campaign.

Were CNN "interfering" when they leaked debate questions to Hillarys campaign?

(I think) CBS colluded with the Hillary campaign to devise some "gotcha" questions for an interview with Ted Cruz-was that "interfering"?

There's so much fvcking "interfering" going on,!unless the Russians actually hacked a polling machine it's all just white noise at this point

Yes, because editorial bias in the media is the same as infiltration by a foreign power.

End result is identical.....tipping the scale in favor of one candidate over another impafts favorable/unfavorable ratings and either helps or suppress turnout

Shoot, we even had Dan Rather break a story (completely false) about GW Bush less than a week before an election in an effort to torpedo his candidacy.

If by "less than week" you mean two months...

And what evidence is there that Rather was trying to torpedo Bush's campaign?

They got played with what they thought were legitimate documents and a massive story and rightfully paid the price.

Time have changed... Trump lies about everyone and anything every time he opens his mouth and the right wing doesn't bat an eyelid.

[foxcommander]

So what's the end result that democrats want? Remove Trump and install Hillary as president as she was cheated out of the presidency by Russia?

[J70]

So what's the end result that democrats want? Remove Trump and install Hillary as president as she was cheated out of the presidency by Russia?

Maybe learn lessons so it doesn't happen again, whether to the parties themselves or a government agency?

Investigate any criminal wrongdoing that may have occurred?

The Democrats were targeted this time, but what's stopping the GOP being hit next time out?

Its just like Schumer needs to be very careful in considering whether to force the GOP to scrap the filibuster over Gorsuch. Next time out, with a more extremist judge, the filibuster might not be available. And McConnell has to consider things carefully too - they'll be in the Senate minority soon enough again.

Its always the other side's turn sooner rather than later.

[foxcommander]

So what's the end result that democrats want? Remove Trump and install Hillary as president as she was cheated out of the presidency by Russia?

Maybe learn lessons so it doesn't happen again, whether to the parties themselves or a government agency?

Investigate any criminal wrongdoing that may have occurred?

The Democrats were targeted this time, but what's stopping the GOP being hit next time out?

Its just like Schumer needs to be very careful in considering whether to force the GOP to scrap the filibuster over Gorsuch. Next time out, with a more extremist judge, the filibuster might not be available. And McConnell has to consider things carefully too - they'll be in the Senate minority soon enough again.

Its always the other side's turn sooner rather than later.

Politics is a dirty business and with a 2 party system both are always going to try to undermine the other. media and social media make it front and centre. At the end of the day as long as the actual voting itself isn't rigged then the results are valid. 

The new aspect of the general public on one side protesting the result is worrying. I don't see this trend going away now a precedent has been set. Even though the irish electorate may not agree with Enda Kenny being taoiseach we let him get on with the job and hopefully pull him up if he's wrong. Nothing will get done otherwise.

[seafoid]

Trump attacking the Freedom Caucus.  I thought we were supposed to get sick of winning.

[whitey]

I  love the use of the word "interfering".   

Were The NY Times "interfering" when they edited a story mid morning to take out unfavorable opinion on Hillary after a call from the Hillary campaign.

Were CNN "interfering" when they leaked debate questions to Hillarys campaign?

(I think) CBS colluded with the Hillary campaign to devise some "gotcha" questions for an interview with Ted Cruz-was that "interfering"?

There's so much fvcking "interfering" going on,!unless the Russians actually hacked a polling machine it's all just white noise at this point

Yes, because editorial bias in the media is the same as infiltration by a foreign power.

End result is identical.....tipping the scale in favor of one candidate over another impafts favorable/unfavorable ratings and either helps or suppress turnout

Shoot, we even had Dan Rather break a story (completely false) about GW Bush less than a week before an election in an effort to torpedo his candidacy.

If by "less than week" you mean two months...

And what evidence is there that Rather was trying to torpedo Bush's campaign?

They got played with what they thought were legitimate documents and a massive story and rightfully paid the price.

Time have changed... Trump lies about everyone and anything every time he opens his mouth and the right wing doesn't bat an eyelid.

That's right.....it's was W's 25 year old DUI that was revealed by Democrats less than a week before the 2000 election......not the National Guard story

[seafoid]

PJ Rourke last year said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhVintbafkU&index=11&list=PLJxnQXiytA_RubhYPXrPSnl1F9B1uC8u6

"Clinton is wrong about everything but she is wrong within normal parameters. With him, who knows ?"


David Fahrenthold‏@Fahrenthold Amazing work in the WaPo today: here's @ktumulty on why Trump, who benefited frm GOP schisms, is now hampered by 'em

I wonder when Foxy will join the dots

[sid waddell]

Trump attacking the Freedom Caucus.  I thought we were supposed to get sick of winning.

One can only presume he meant "whining". Easy to confuse the two words.

If you have the reading age of an eight year old, like Tiny Hands.

[seafoid]

Trump attacking the Freedom Caucus.  I thought we were supposed to get sick of winning.

One can only presume he meant "whining". Easy to confuse the two words.

If you have the reading age of an eight year old, like Tiny Hands.

He was going to cut through political stalemate by winning deals.
Why is he attacking the freedom caucus again?

[sid waddell]

Trump attacking the Freedom Caucus.  I thought we were supposed to get sick of winning.

One can only presume he meant "whining". Easy to confuse the two words.

If you have the reading age of an eight year old, like Tiny Hands.

He was going to cut through political stalemate by winning deals.
Why is he attacking the freedom caucus again?

Because he's an utterly useless dealmaker and completely out of his depth in politics.

This is what happens when having no experience is trumpeted as a virtue.

In this instance, it's lucky for the 24 million people he wants to deny healthcare to.

So ironically having no experience is a virtue in his case, but in the opposite way to what his supporters think.

[seafoid]

https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/847451006535434240

[seafoid]

Brian Klaas‏  @brianklaas

Days before dropping to 35% approval rating:

Obama: Never
W Bush: 1,927
Clinton: Never
HW Bush: 1,278
Reagan: Never
Carter: 840
Trump: 68

[seafoid]

The Hill‏ @thehill

Obama spokeswoman warns Spicer: Be careful not to permanently damage your credibility http://hill.cm/iKYi0Eh

[Eamonnca1]

Tweet Beat

• POTUS for some reason encouraged his former National Security Adviser to get an immunity deal from either the F.B.I. or Congress. He thinks it's necessary because he believes this is all a witch hunt. Of course, the only reason you get immunity is to flip on a bigger fish, so... good luck to all involved?
State Department

• Secretary Rex Tillerson spent five hours on the ground at the NATO foreign ministers' summit that they rescheduled because the Chinese president's visit conflicted with the original date. "No time for idle chit-chat," he said.
a.k.a., you know, diplomacy. Which is •kinda* your job.

• The budget cuts in the State Department the administration wants aren't going to materialize. "The president's budget goes in the waste basket as soon as it gets here," Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker (R-TN), said during a Thursday hearing.
Jason Chaffetz

• In an interview with The Atlantic, the Chair of the House Oversight Committee brushed off concerns about the administration is turning into a kleptocracy:
"He's already rich," Chaffetz said. "He's very rich. I don't think that he ran for this office to line his pockets even more. I just don't see it like that. These other little intrigues about a wealthy family making money is a bit of a sideshow."

Yes, the ultra wealthy are completely known to self-regulate and say, "you know, I've got enough money." That's why our tax code has gotten more progressive as the wealth gap has ballooned over the last thirty years.

POTUS

• Declared April National Sexual Assault Awareness & Prevention Month.

APRIL FOOLS!

But no, really. He did.

• On Sept. 27 of last year said, "If you're not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for?"

• A McClatchy-Marist Poll reported Friday that about one in three registered voters say Trump deserves an 'F' grade for his job performance so far. Only 15% gave him an 'A'. Seventy per cent said his frequent use of Twitter was 'reckless and distracting.' Just 19 per cent called it 'effective and informative.'

• After his closing remarks at an executive order signing ceremony in the Oval Office, the president wandered out of the room without signing the executive orders. Vice-President Pence futilely tried to stop him as CBS' Major Garrett tried to get an answer about then went back to the desk to collect the folders and chase after him.

• Has realized that the chaos-and-loyalty theory of management he relied on in his boutique real estate shop does not work in the White House. And, as befits an elderly person who's gotten his own way his entire life and has never had to manage competing interest groups, he "feels baffled and paralyzed by how to fix it," according to numerous friends and advisers that talked to Axios.

"Come nightfall, Trump is often on the phone with billionaire, decades-long friends, commiserating and critiquing his own staff."

So ronery.

Mike Flynn

• Back on Sept. 30 he had his own opinion on immunity: "The only time you give somebody immunity is if they've committed a crime."

• Is currently 0-for-2 on immunity. The F.B.I. & Senate Select Intelligence Committee have both turned him down.
This is my fear – he has nothing. When he was quiet for a week, the thought was he was cutting a deal. But to come out publicly re: immunity AND to say no one was biting, that's not a good sign.

The U.N.

• Ambassador Nikki Haley delivered an ultimatum to the body – cut 1,500 troops from the 17,000-strong peacekeeping mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, or else the U.S. would withhold its support for a resolution extending the mandate the U.N.'s largest peacekeeping operation. Pulling them out would potentially have created a security vacuum in a country the U.N. is trying to stabilize ahead of presidential elections next year.
The Security Council called her bluff and got her down to a reduction of less than 370 troops. While still a modest cost savings for the U.S., which funds just over a quarter of the peacekeeping work, it's a far cry from the slash-and-burn the administration was demanding.

Department of Energy

• A supervisor at the international climate office told staff this week not to use the phrases "climate change," "emissions reduction" or "Paris Agreement" in written memos, briefings or other written communication.
Economy

• The Conference Board's Consumer Confidence gauge rose to a 125.6 in March, its highest level since December 2000.

The White House

• Began releasing the financial disclosure forms for Cabinet officials and top advisers. The disclosures were expected to reveal their financial portfolios before any divesting they were required to do by the ethics office. But we're not going to find out if they actually did do any divesting, because that is documented in the ethics agreements, and the "transparent" administration is claiming that they are internal documents and won't be released.

"To obtain the financial-disclosure reports, reporters were required to request the reports for the 180 staff members by name. The White House on Friday declined to provide a list of the names of its staff."

Their ethics pledges are so transparent, it's like they're not even there!

This has been Day 71 in Trumpistan. Good night!

[J70]

I  love the use of the word "interfering".   

Were The NY Times "interfering" when they edited a story mid morning to take out unfavorable opinion on Hillary after a call from the Hillary campaign.

Were CNN "interfering" when they leaked debate questions to Hillarys campaign?

(I think) CBS colluded with the Hillary campaign to devise some "gotcha" questions for an interview with Ted Cruz-was that "interfering"?

There's so much fvcking "interfering" going on,!unless the Russians actually hacked a polling machine it's all just white noise at this point

Yes, because editorial bias in the media is the same as infiltration by a foreign power.

End result is identical.....tipping the scale in favor of one candidate over another impafts favorable/unfavorable ratings and either helps or suppress turnout

Shoot, we even had Dan Rather break a story (completely false) about GW Bush less than a week before an election in an effort to torpedo his candidacy.

If by "less than week" you mean two months...

And what evidence is there that Rather was trying to torpedo Bush's campaign?

They got played with what they thought were legitimate documents and a massive story and rightfully paid the price.

Time have changed... Trump lies about everyone and anything every time he opens his mouth and the right wing doesn't bat an eyelid.

That's right.....it's was W's 25 year old DUI that was revealed by Democrats less than a week before the 2000 election......not the National Guard story

That's US politics for you... or was! That kind of dumb shit you did in your youth mattered in middle age, regardless of whether you were completely sober like W was. Remember Clinton's ludicrous "I didn't inhale" excuse!

Whereas now we have a man who likes to go up to strange women and "grab em by the pussy" and was rumoured, along with Clinton himself (hence why neither side would touch it in the campaign), to be a enthusiast of Jeffrey Epstein's underage girl pastime.