Premier League 20/21

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Captain Obvious

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 04, 2020, 08:56:44 PM
I think lampard is ok. Dunno why there is so much disdain for him. Granted he can't organise a defense and probably won't last at Chelsea but I think "conceited twat" is probably a bit harsh...

Liverpool and united both getting tanked. A good weekend.

Liverpool and Manchester United were at sixes and sevens at the weekend.

johnnycool

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 05, 2020, 10:20:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 04, 2020, 08:56:44 PM
I think lampard is ok. Dunno why there is so much disdain for him. Granted he can't organise a defense and probably won't last at Chelsea but I think "conceited twat" is probably a bit harsh...

Liverpool and united both getting tanked. A good weekend.

Liverpool and Manchester United were at sixes and sevens at the weekend.

ziggy90

Quote from: lurganblue on October 05, 2020, 10:00:29 AM
Wow! Stunned by that Villa result.  Before the game I had a small hope for a draw with the Liverpool absentees.

Not half as much as the Blue side of Brum.
Questions that shouldn't be asked shouldn't be answered

caprea

Spurs have a shot this season. Bale, Son and Kane is fearsome if they stay fit.

Dar31

Quote from: caprea on October 05, 2020, 11:08:01 AM
Spurs have a shot this season. Bale, Son and Kane is fearsome if they stay fit.


I agree and im a united fan there the ideal mourinho team older nucleus of pros who have a point to prove and are desperate to win something and will literally do whatever mourinho says to win

Jell 0 Biafra

They looked good yesterday. They were very poor against Everton and Newcastle.  May have a cup win in them, but can't see them with a real shot in the league.

Dar31

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on October 05, 2020, 08:11:55 PM
They looked good yesterday. They were very poor against Everton and Newcastle.  May have a cup win in them, but can't see them with a real shot in the league.

And mourinho loves the cup competition he would take a cup final win in any of them

Hound

So every game in October that is not already assigned for live coverage on the usual Sky Sports, BT channels will be shown live on PPV. STG 14.95 per game is the reported price! (Although I wonder is the fact the price has been leaked rather than announced mean it's a tactic and they'll reduce it a bit to make it seem less exhorbitant)

No way i'd Pay even 10 euro a game on top of my existing Sky Sports sub.

Boycey

Liverpool in the vanguard of a power grab by "The big six" Premier League clubs. United obviously up to their necks in it too.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/11/world-exclusive-man-utd-liverpool-driving-project-big-picture/

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The proposals include:

£250 million immediately to the EFL to compensate its clubs for lost matchday revenue, deducted from future television revenue earnings and financed by a loan taken out by the Premier League

Special status for the nine longest serving clubs – and the vote of only six of those "long-term shareholders" required to make major changes, including amending rules and regulations, agreeing contracts, removal of the chief executive, and a wide-ranging veto including on club ownership

Premier League to go to 18 clubs from 20

£100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women's game, the grassroots

8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and "good causes" including the FA

From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs

Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat

New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league

The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield

24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90

A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA

Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship's third, fourth and fifth placed teams.

Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts

A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent capacity

Later Premier League start in August to give greater scope for pre-season friendlies, and requirement for all clubs to compete once every five years in a summer Premier League tournament

Huge changes to loan system allowing clubs to have 15 players out on loan domestically at any one time and up to four at a single club in England

lurganblue

"Special status for the nine longest serving clubs"... I believe that is from consecutive seasons in the PL and not total amount of time in the PL. City are tenth in total games played in PL with Newcastle and Villa ahead of them.

TabClear

Quote from: Boycey on October 11, 2020, 09:22:05 PM
Liverpool in the vanguard of a power grab by "The big six" Premier League clubs. United obviously up to their necks in it too.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/11/world-exclusive-man-utd-liverpool-driving-project-big-picture/

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The proposals include:

£250 million immediately to the EFL to compensate its clubs for lost matchday revenue, deducted from future television revenue earnings and financed by a loan taken out by the Premier League

Special status for the nine longest serving clubs – and the vote of only six of those "long-term shareholders" required to make major changes, including amending rules and regulations, agreeing contracts, removal of the chief executive, and a wide-ranging veto including on club ownership

Premier League to go to 18 clubs from 20

£100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women's game, the grassroots

8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and "good causes" including the FA

From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs

Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat

New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league

The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield

24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90

A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA

Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship's third, fourth and fifth placed teams.

Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts

A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent capacity

Later Premier League start in August to give greater scope for pre-season friendlies, and requirement for all clubs to compete once every five years in a summer Premier League tournament

Huge changes to loan system allowing clubs to have 15 players out on loan domestically at any one time and up to four at a single club in England

Its an absolute powergrab. Its not mentioned there but i think the Big six can effectively force anything through if the charter was agreed as they have increased voting power.


shark

The clubs driving this are terrified of another Man City. Their entire model is predicated on being in the champions league season after season. The line about being able to vote on takeovers of other clubs is alarming. I can't see 14 clubs agreeing to anything like this.

seafoid

Quote from: Boycey on October 11, 2020, 09:22:05 PM
Liverpool in the vanguard of a power grab by "The big six" Premier League clubs. United obviously up to their necks in it too.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/11/world-exclusive-man-utd-liverpool-driving-project-big-picture/

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The proposals include:

£250 million immediately to the EFL to compensate its clubs for lost matchday revenue, deducted from future television revenue earnings and financed by a loan taken out by the Premier League

Special status for the nine longest serving clubs – and the vote of only six of those "long-term shareholders" required to make major changes, including amending rules and regulations, agreeing contracts, removal of the chief executive, and a wide-ranging veto including on club ownership

Premier League to go to 18 clubs from 20

£100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women's game, the grassroots

8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and "good causes" including the FA

From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs

Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat

New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league

The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield

24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90

A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA

Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship's third, fourth and fifth placed teams.

Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts

A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent capacity

Later Premier League start in August to give greater scope for pre-season friendlies, and requirement for all clubs to compete once every five years in a summer Premier League tournament

Huge changes to loan system allowing clubs to have 15 players out on loan domestically at any one time and up to four at a single club in England
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/12/project-big-picture-inside-story-liverpool-man-utd-efl-plan/
Thirty years on and attempts to re-mould that same Premier League – now the most powerful, and the most lucrative, sport league in the world – has echoes of the way in which it was created. The Premier League's executive and all but its two most famous clubs, Manchester United and Liverpool in conjunction with the EFL chairman Rick Parry, have been bypassed.
But for Parry this is a scheme 25 years in the making. Three years after the Premier League began, in 1995, the Football League board spurned a second opportunity, backed by all bar one of its clubs, to share in the riches of its much more profitable sibling when, as Premier League chief executive, Parry offered to take over the negotiations for the Football League's television rights and give a percentage of their combined income in return. 
When, in 1995, the proposal was put to the 72 Football League clubs, 71 voted in favour of throwing their lot in with the Premier League. But the Football League board rejected it and insisted on negotiating alone.
Now the same offer forms part of these proposals. The EFL clubs themselves were mostly unaware of the strategy being pursued – many of them finding out when The Telegraph revealed the plans at lunchtime on Sunday. Before then Parry says that he has, at different times, alluded to the plan he had in mind, arguing that systemic problems mean clubs are not able to respond properly to the Covid crisis.
Indeed, talks have been ongoing for three years involving some of the most powerful owners in the Premier League. Among them was the American billionaire John W Henry, Liverpool's principal owner and a key figure in what would become "Project Big Picture" and later the "Revitalisation" document.
So too Mike Gordon, another in Liverpool's Fenway Sports Group, and one of those credited with the club's recent transformation into European and then English champions. Parry was also speaking to Joel Glazer who has overseen a rather less successful ownership of Manchester United since his late father, Malcolm, bought the club in 2005.
Why did those billionaire investors, who control the most powerful clubs in the English game, choose Parry to help them restructure the sport? Among other things, he is regarded as a man who – as his interview The Telegraph reveals – is prepared to say the things that other figures in the game may believe privately but fear to utter. With Parry in charge of the EFL, United and Liverpool also believe that he can deliver consensus from his 72 very different members.
But this is a major gamble. Over the course of the three years, Parry worked in secret with the two biggest Premier League clubs to come up with a plan. He cares less about the power it will give the wealthiest clubs and more about the 25 per cent annually of Premier League revenue that will flow to his impecunious members. Others may be more conflicted but Parry regards this is an unprecedented concession and he is not afraid to say so. In the meantime he has secured agreements from his members for salary caps which he says will be an end to the ruinous spending of years gone by.
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For United and Liverpool, the pay-off is not a greater share of the revenue from the Premier League's television deal – they are insistent that will not happen. Instead those two clubs say they want the power, along with the other members of the elite to shape the rules of the league and also to have more matchdays to compete in a potentially expanded Champions League. Those who oppose them are much more dubious that it will not deliver a greater share.
The authors of "Revitalisation" are on their 17th draft already. Optimistically they want to see it in place for the 2022-2023 season. On the question of how the Premier League would come down from 20 clubs to 18, there is no firm proposal yet. The league's original reduction from 22 clubs to 20 took three years because the Football League was not ready to accommodate the extra clubs until 1995-96.
Parry has shared his plans with just a few close confidants, including the Stoke chairman, John Coates, and his Middlesbrough counterpart, Steve Gibson. "They are 100 per cent supportive because it is for the greater good," Parry said. "Those two are genuinely up for it. They are excited, and passionate about it. In a time when everyone is panicking how we will emerge from it you need a long-term vision and you need hope." 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/12/premier-league-warned-football-faces-government-review-efl-rescue/

The UK Government is now threatening to launch an immediate review of football regulation if the Premier League cannot agree a rescue package with the English Football League "within the existing measures".

"It's clear that this proposal does not command support throughout the Premier League - it is exactly this type of backroom dealing that undermines trust in football governance," Downing Street said.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Jell 0 Biafra

Can't be all bad if the tories are coming out against it.