Brexit.

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RedHand88

Quote from: trailer on February 18, 2021, 12:05:09 PM
Matthew O'Toole seems to be articulating the opportunities very well. NI does have a unique opportunity and Unionism is stupid if they cannot see that.

Unionism is controlled by paramilitaries/OO. Remember the DUP were all for the protocol in the first week of January. A wonderful opportunity we were told.
Cue the rabble rousing by the "Community leaders" and now the DUP think its a betrayal of Ulster.

tiempo

Brexit means Brexit, I think Unionist leaders obsession with UKexit is where the problem lies, they aren't British, sin é

Rossfan

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 18, 2021, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 18, 2021, 12:05:09 PM
Matthew O'Toole seems to be articulating the opportunities very well. NI does have a unique opportunity and Unionism is stupid if they cannot see that.

Unionism is controlled by paramilitaries/OO. Remember the DUP were all for the protocol in the first week of January. A wonderful opportunity we were told.
Cue the rabble rousing by the "Community leaders" and now the DUP think its a betrayal of Ulster.
Exactly.
Remember the May deal in 2017.
DUPUDA, instead of elected representatives consulting with constituents etc, ran off to consult the Orange Order and the UDA.
The former have only one word in their vocabulary (NO!!!).
In any normal Country the sight of politicians consulting an illegal murdering drug dealing shower of scumbags would be the end of that party.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

johnnycool

Quote from: Rossfan on February 18, 2021, 11:16:08 AM
Ignoring Stormont Politicians is probably the right thing to do

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/northern-leaders-to-meet-eu-official-in-charge-of-post-brexit-ni-trade-1.4488444?mode=amp

It's entirely the right thing to do.

The DUP are spinning this that we can't get deliveries in from GB from Amazon and the likes which is utter balls.

The may be teething problems with groupage but once the couriers prevent taking on consignments without the correct paperwork even it won't be so troublesome..

red hander

Ordered couple of things from Amazon on Monday evening, were delivered yesterday, no problems. For someone who purports to be a good living Christian, Foster is one lying bastard.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/de3c9538-5388-44a1-9bf4-51c4da482d4a

Both sides are beginning to realise that Brexit is not an event but an ongoing process that will be shaped by the sort of relationship they now develop.
Six weeks in, they have still not decided what sort of divorce they want — whether it will be a cordial separation or a rolling series of confrontations

"Is there going to be healthy competition or will you end up in all-out confrontation and conflict? It's not clear which way it will go," says Maddy Thimont Jack, Brexit expert at London's Institute for Government.
"This will get messy," says one EU diplomat. There is a feeling towards London that "you wanted this — this is your problem and you can solve it yourself".

One senior EU official says: "There has to be a wish to change things. If not, we will be in a tough, 'permanent alert' situation. It would be unfortunate if there was a tit-for-tat relationship."
Most goods would continue to move between the two sides without tariffs, but Johnson's decision to quit the single market and customs union meant that trade would be hit by a mass of paperwork and border checks.
"Britain is still approaching everything very politically," says a senior EU diplomat close to the discussions. "The EU is willing to be pragmatic but we've not seen that on the London side."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

michaelg

Quote from: Rossfan on February 18, 2021, 01:28:50 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 18, 2021, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 18, 2021, 12:05:09 PM
Matthew O'Toole seems to be articulating the opportunities very well. NI does have a unique opportunity and Unionism is stupid if they cannot see that.

Unionism is controlled by paramilitaries/OO. Remember the DUP were all for the protocol in the first week of January. A wonderful opportunity we were told.
Cue the rabble rousing by the "Community leaders" and now the DUP think its a betrayal of Ulster.
Exactly.
Remember the May deal in 2017.
DUPUDA, instead of elected representatives consulting with constituents etc, ran off to consult the Orange Order and the UDA.
The former have only one word in their vocabulary (NO!!!).
In any normal Country the sight of politicians consulting an illegal murdering drug dealing shower of scumbags would be the end of that party.
You do know who 'DUPUDA' are in government with?

Rossfan

I do.
One of those Parties may be still under the control of the "PIRA Army Council".
Security assessments were that this body doesn't do paramilitary business or crime any more.
I'm not aware of said Party consulting active paramilitaries or criminals or an extremist Catholic Religious organisation  before making a political decision.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM


seafoid

Quote from: mouview on February 20, 2021, 03:11:04 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/david-trimble-tear-up-the-northern-ireland-protocol-to-save-the-belfast-agreement-1.4489873

BTL comments are a hoot.
They sure are

The DUP.rejected every single alternative and was then shafted by Johnson. This did not require consent.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

grounded

Quote from: mouview on February 20, 2021, 03:11:04 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/david-trimble-tear-up-the-northern-ireland-protocol-to-save-the-belfast-agreement-1.4489873

BTL comments are a hoot.

Lord Trimble: Brexit deal 'is a great step forward and within spirit of Good Friday Agreement'

October 19 2019 08:00 AM
Former UUP leader David Trimble has backed Boris Johnson's Brexit deal, describing the Prime Minister's proposals as a "great step forward".

grounded

Poor old David. See the veiled threat of violence once again. Its always been a constant undercurrent in Unionist speak.
       To share a Nobel peace prize with the great John Hume sickens me to my core. Two more different people you will never meet.

bennydorano

Unionism has always had that Democrats when it suits vibe & then something doesn't go their way it's Grand Old Duke of York time. Dont think the plebs will fall for it this time, one of the East Belfast 'Community Workers' had their number a couple of weeks ago.

Rossfan

I see DUPUDA ,the UUP and the true Neanderthal TUV are initiating legal action to seek to overturn the Protocol.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

sensethetone

Sam McBride's view on it was, Boris J. would have to take in lawyers to parliament to defend a border in the Irish sea- which Boris also maintains doesn't exist.