Think this deserves a thread on its own.
Five years without a championship loss is some record.
Quote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2019, 08:38:01 PM
How does that compare to Jim GAVIN??
Blaming autocorrect for that :o
Quote from: Solo_run on September 14, 2019, 08:35:27 PM
Think this deserves a thread on its own.
Five years without a championship loss is some record.
It's a great record however I expect no-one here would disagree he could not have won 5 in row with any other county. The question then becomes could he win even a single all-Ireland with Kildare, Mayo, Cork etc? Probably not, many will say but if JG wants the greatest manager ever title he needs to go and win Sam with at v least one other county. Doing that with Mayo would give him true cult status.
On that basis the thread may be better named "JG - 5IAR manager of Gaelic footballs first semi-professional team"
So he won 5 in a row and thats a first for sure. Kilkenny won 1 then 2 in a row, 4 in a row then another 2 and another 2 and Cody is still there. If here is any argument to be won then Gavin would probably win it.
Quote from: didlyi on September 14, 2019, 09:23:36 PM
So he won 5 in a row and thats a first for sure. Kilkenny won 1 then 2 in a row, 4 in a row then another 2 and another 2 and Cody is still there. If here is any argument to be won then Gavin would probably win it.
Cody could go to any of the one of the other top 5 hurling counties and likely win an AI in a few years. Same cannot be said of Gavin.
Quote from: under the bar on September 14, 2019, 09:32:58 PM
Quote from: didlyi on September 14, 2019, 09:23:36 PM
So he won 5 in a row and thats a first for sure. Kilkenny won 1 then 2 in a row, 4 in a row then another 2 and another 2 and Cody is still there. If here is any argument to be won then Gavin would probably win it.
Cody could go to any of the one of the other top 5 hurling counties and likely win an AI in a few years. Same cannot be said of Gavin.
Is that a criticism of Gavin or the unbalanced nature of football rather than hurling?
Gavin will be happy to be the greatest manager Dublin have ever had. I'd say that'll be enough for him. If he takes a drink he'll never get to buy another one in his life.
Quote from: armaghniac on September 14, 2019, 10:03:14 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 14, 2019, 09:32:58 PM
Quote from: didlyi on September 14, 2019, 09:23:36 PM
So he won 5 in a row and thats a first for sure. Kilkenny won 1 then 2 in a row, 4 in a row then another 2 and another 2 and Cody is still there. If here is any argument to be won then Gavin would probably win it.
Cody could go to any of the one of the other top 5 hurling counties and likely win an AI in a few years. Same cannot be said of Gavin.
Is that a criticism of Gavin or the unbalanced nature of football rather than hurling?
It's not a criticism of Gavin, however privileged, contrived and grotesque financial imbalance in Dublin coupled with the insurmountable population imbalace means that a perfectionist like Gavin would be more likely to win an AI by managing Dublin hurlers than another footballing county.
Mick O, Dwyer seen All-Ireland final day 19 times, be a long team before I see any manager bring to the game what he has. Jim Gavin good but way behind the man above and Cody
Gavin is good alright no doubting that. However, you have to take into account the animal that is Dublin GAA and what he has at his disposal. It's a professional organisation against amateur ones.
I think the GAA is in a bad place for the next few years. Something needs to change and quick.
They should put Cody in charge of Dublin hurlers and Gavin in charge of Kilkenny footballers and see which one wins.
Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.
His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.
Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.
For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.
I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.
And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.
I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on September 15, 2019, 12:28:05 AM
Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.
His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.
Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.
For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.
I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.
And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.
I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.
Exactly the opposite more like. Cross won their AIs in the face of adversity. Gavin won his with the benefit of financial support most professional teams never see.
Gavin might be a good manager but there's little doubt Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan could easily have equalled or even bettered his record given the chance. Not sure Gavin would have won 3 X AIs with Tyrone tho!
When Jim can go to Laois and Kildare and win a Leinster I will give him the nod.
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2019, 10:19:25 PM
I don't think it's a criticism of Gavin. His point just tells us that it's hard to know how good you are when you manage a team streets ahead of everyone.
I thought bringing Connolly back was poor. He wasn't near the level as far as I could see while other lads who have been there all year never got a sniff of action.
He can get away with these things where others wouldn't.
Having said that, while they keep winning, you can't fault him.
The reason Connolly was brought back was a lack of depth at half forward. We've loads of lads who can play in the FF line, but very little at half forward and midfield. Subs breakdown yesterday was 1 mid, 1 HF, 5 FF.
Quote from: under the bar on September 15, 2019, 12:55:13 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on September 15, 2019, 12:28:05 AM
Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.
His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.
Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.
For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.
I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.
And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.
I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.
Exactly the opposite more like. Cross won their AIs in the face of adversity. Gavin won his with the benefit of financial support most professional teams never see.
Gavin might be a good manager but there's little doubt Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan could easily have equalled or even bettered his record given the chance. Not sure Gavin would have won 3 X AIs with Tyrone tho!
Alright, i will put it another way, would that particular Dublin team win five in a row with someone else managing them?
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on September 15, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 15, 2019, 12:55:13 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on September 15, 2019, 12:28:05 AM
Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.
His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.
Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.
For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.
I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.
And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.
I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.
Exactly the opposite more like. Cross won their AIs in the face of adversity. Gavin won his with the benefit of financial support most professional teams never see.
Gavin might be a good manager but there's little doubt Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan could easily have equalled or even bettered his record given the chance. Not sure Gavin would have won 3 X AIs with Tyrone tho!
Alright, i will put it another way, would that particular Dublin team win five in a row with someone else managing them?
Or if Jim had managed Mayo for the last 7 years, how many AIs would they have won?
At least 2 I'd say
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on September 15, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 15, 2019, 12:55:13 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on September 15, 2019, 12:28:05 AM
Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.
His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.
Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.
For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.
I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.
And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.
I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.
Exactly the opposite more like. Cross won their AIs in the face of adversity. Gavin won his with the benefit of financial support most professional teams never see.
Gavin might be a good manager but there's little doubt Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan could easily have equalled or even bettered his record given the chance. Not sure Gavin would have won 3 X AIs with Tyrone tho!
Alright, i will put it another way, would that particular Dublin team win five in a row with someone else managing them?
Of course
Quote from: under the bar on September 15, 2019, 02:49:17 PM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on September 15, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 15, 2019, 12:55:13 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on September 15, 2019, 12:28:05 AM
Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.
His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.
Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.
For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.
I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.
And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.
I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.
Exactly the opposite more like. Cross won their AIs in the face of adversity. Gavin won his with the benefit of financial support most professional teams never see.
Gavin might be a good manager but there's little doubt Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan could easily have equalled or even bettered his record given the chance. Not sure Gavin would have won 3 X AIs with Tyrone tho!
Alright, i will put it another way, would that particular Dublin team win five in a row with someone else managing them?
Of course
Fair Enough ???
Very difficult to compare managers. For instance although Dublin won 5 in a row there were 8 players who started at the weekend didn't start 5 years ago. They are the beat squad there has ever been but would their best 15 on Sunday beat the best 15 that Kerry had during their runs? I genuinely don't know. In terms of Gavin being the greatest manager I am not sure. He is the greatest organizer of a vast array of talent but he has a machine of people under him. The likes of Micko and Coady would be very much the dominant figures and the driving force. Gavin is more of a 'facilitator '....and excellent one but I think that the coaching structures are such that the players are the ones who really dictate things as they're so well coached for years that their game intelligence and decision making is at a different level than other teams. Would he achieve what he did at another county? Perhaps but that is and unanswerable.
Barry Breen's bandages....JK was a very lucky manager at the outset as he had a bunch of winners. You know what we were like from a very young age and we were born winners. We also had a great game intelligence and that was from playing together from we were children. 12-13 of us stayed together from u10 to senior....8 of us were starters on the first AI winning team. JK saw that, blended us in with the older boys and made us believe we were the best. The big thing he did though was organize us and that is what Gavin does so well with Dublin. He is the supreme organizer and that is why they were able to reset and see what needed to be done for the replay and why they would always win it.
Don't forget his coaching staff, training staff, logistics staff..........
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 16, 2019, 09:21:12 PM
Very difficult to compare managers. For instance although Dublin won 5 in a row there were 8 players who started at the weekend didn't start 5 years ago. They are the beat squad there has ever been but would their best 15 on Sunday beat the best 15 that Kerry had during their runs? I genuinely don't know. In terms of Gavin being the greatest manager I am not sure. He is the greatest organizer of a vast array of talent but he has a machine of people under him. The likes of Micko and Coady would be very much the dominant figures and the driving force. Gavin is more of a 'facilitator '....and excellent one but I think that the coaching structures are such that the players are the ones who really dictate things as they're so well coached for years that their game intelligence and decision making is at a different level than other teams. Would he achieve what he did at another county? Perhaps but that is and unanswerable.
Barry Breen's bandages....JK was a very lucky manager at the outset as he had a bunch of winners. You know what we were like from a very young age and we were born winners. We also had a great game intelligence and that was from playing together from we were children. 12-13 of us stayed together from u10 to senior....8 of us were starters on the first AI winning team. JK saw that, blended us in with the older boys and made us believe we were the best. The big thing he did though was organize us and that is what Gavin does so well with Dublin. He is the supreme organizer and that is why they were able to reset and see what needed to be done for the replay and why they would always win it.
And 6 of those 8 players (D Byrne,E Murchan,N Scully,B Howard,P Mannion,C O'Callaghan) didn't even play in the 2015 final. Kerry in comparison i think still had 13 of 1978 starting team still starting in 1982 and the only sub they made in 82 was to bring on Pat Spillane at half time.
Saying all that Jim Gavin is certainly up there with the greatest ever managers.
Anyone remember the circumstances of Micko leaving Kerry.
Did he give plenty of notice or was it sudden?
Left after a winning or losing year?
Without doubt, Brian Cody is the greatest GAA manager ever - no question.
Quote from: Hound on September 17, 2019, 09:01:49 AM
Anyone remember the circumstances of Micko leaving Kerry.
Did he give plenty of notice or was it sudden?
Left after a winning or losing year?
Left in 89 after three successive Munster final defeats.
Quote from: Hound on September 15, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2019, 10:19:25 PM
I don't think it's a criticism of Gavin. His point just tells us that it's hard to know how good you are when you manage a team streets ahead of everyone.
I thought bringing Connolly back was poor. He wasn't near the level as far as I could see while other lads who have been there all year never got a sniff of action.
He can get away with these things where others wouldn't.
Having said that, while they keep winning, you can't fault him.
The reason Connolly was brought back was a lack of depth at half forward. We've loads of lads who can play in the FF line, but very little at half forward and midfield. Subs breakdown yesterday was 1 mid, 1 HF, 5 FF.
Not so sure that was the reason Connolly was brought back in, read Darcy Q&A in the Examiner today for insight.
I notice not one of you have considered that Gavin was the tactician that showed us all how to break down the mass blanket defence whilst winning five in a row. Identifying it, coaching it and then executing it saved the game for us all. That's in itself we should all be grateful of and puts him up in that greatest category
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 17, 2019, 10:56:37 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 15, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2019, 10:19:25 PM
I don't think it's a criticism of Gavin. His point just tells us that it's hard to know how good you are when you manage a team streets ahead of everyone.
I thought bringing Connolly back was poor. He wasn't near the level as far as I could see while other lads who have been there all year never got a sniff of action.
He can get away with these things where others wouldn't.
Having said that, while they keep winning, you can't fault him.
The reason Connolly was brought back was a lack of depth at half forward. We've loads of lads who can play in the FF line, but very little at half forward and midfield. Subs breakdown yesterday was 1 mid, 1 HF, 5 FF.
Not so sure that was the reason Connolly was brought back in, read Darcy Q&A in the Examiner today for insight.
Great article
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/theyre-a-really-special-group-youd-bring-your-kids-to-watch-them-play-951128.html
Quote from: Rawhide on September 17, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
I notice not one of you have considered that Gavin was the tactician that showed us all how to break down the mass blanket defence whilst winning five in a row. Identifying it, coaching it and then executing it saved the game for us all. That's in itself we should all be grateful of and puts him up in that greatest category
Well said. Everyone seems to be ignoring how he has improved players over the years as well. In 2017 it was a joy to watch them finally destroy the blanket defense against Tyrone and they put on an exhibition that today. Gavin has not only coached them how to play attacking football, but encouraged players to think for themselves and the team is full of leaders now all over the pitch. Youngsters like Brian Howard showing leadership like a seasoned veteran. Bernard Brogan looked one of the happiest players on the pitch sat night even though he didn't even make it off the bench
Compare that to the robotic approach Mickey Harte has instilled into Tyrone football were everyone has to buy into their defensive approach and the poor fans who have to watch it every year
Here lads I think Jim Gavin is a brilliant manager and all that but to answer the question raised in the thread title you can't go past Brian Cody, end off.
Quote from: marty34 on September 17, 2019, 09:09:58 AM
Without doubt, Brian Cody is the greatest GAA manager ever - no question.
Totally agree JC.
Quote from: Rawhide on September 17, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
I notice not one of you have considered that Gavin was the tactician that showed us all how to break down the mass blanket defence whilst winning five in a row. Identifying it, coaching it and then executing it saved the game for us all. That's in itself we should all be grateful of and puts him up in that greatest category
Bulldung.
Gavin's success is built on money and privilege alone. Could he do the same with Mayo? No. Enough said.
Quote from: under the bar on September 20, 2019, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on September 17, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
I notice not one of you have considered that Gavin was the tactician that showed us all how to break down the mass blanket defence whilst winning five in a row. Identifying it, coaching it and then executing it saved the game for us all. That's in itself we should all be grateful of and puts him up in that greatest category
Bulldung.
Gavin's success is built on money and privilege alone. Could he do the same with Mayo? No. Enough said.
Christ your bitter. For years people thought the only to beat the blanket was go like for like. Gavin showed another way.
If Gavin was in charge of Mayo they'd have won a couple of All Irelands. He impowers players and makes them better and isnt afraid to pick youngster ahead of established players.
Quote from: dublin7 on September 20, 2019, 09:43:17 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 20, 2019, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on September 17, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
I notice not one of you have considered that Gavin was the tactician that showed us all how to break down the mass blanket defence whilst winning five in a row. Identifying it, coaching it and then executing it saved the game for us all. That's in itself we should all be grateful of and puts him up in that greatest category
Bulldung.
Gavin's success is built on money and privilege alone. Could he do the same with Mayo? No. Enough said.
Christ your bitter. For years people thought the only to beat the blanket was go like for like. Gavin showed another way.
If Gavin was in charge of Mayo they'd have won a couple of All Irelands. He impowers players and makes them better and isnt afraid to pick youngster ahead of established players.
And if Kildare had €2M of crooked money a year for a decade they could buy 5 in a row too.
If Gavin can win Sam with another county he will get the credit he deserves. If he simply fills his pockets and runs away then he won't.
Quote from: under the bar on September 21, 2019, 08:34:27 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on September 20, 2019, 09:43:17 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 20, 2019, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on September 17, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
I notice not one of you have considered that Gavin was the tactician that showed us all how to break down the mass blanket defence whilst winning five in a row. Identifying it, coaching it and then executing it saved the game for us all. That's in itself we should all be grateful of and puts him up in that greatest category
Bulldung.
Gavin's success is built on money and privilege alone. Could he do the same with Mayo? No. Enough said.
Christ your bitter. For years people thought the only to beat the blanket was go like for like. Gavin showed another way.
If Gavin was in charge of Mayo they'd have won a couple of All Irelands. He impowers players and makes them better and isnt afraid to pick youngster ahead of established players.
And if Kildare had €2M of crooked money a year for a decade they could buy 5 in a row too.
If Gavin can win Sam with another county he will get the credit he deserves. If he simply fills his pockets and runs away then he won't.
He won 5 in a row as well as winning 5 leagues in 7 years playing attacking football and doesn't get paid to manage Dublin (unlike other club & county managers). If he chooses to step down it certainly won't be a case of running away.
Quote from: dublin7 on September 21, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 21, 2019, 08:34:27 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on September 20, 2019, 09:43:17 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 20, 2019, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on September 17, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
I notice not one of you have considered that Gavin was the tactician that showed us all how to break down the mass blanket defence whilst winning five in a row. Identifying it, coaching it and then executing it saved the game for us all. That's in itself we should all be grateful of and puts him up in that greatest category
Bulldung.
Gavin's success is built on money and privilege alone. Could he do the same with Mayo? No. Enough said.
Christ your bitter. For years people thought the only to beat the blanket was go like for like. Gavin showed another way.
If Gavin was in charge of Mayo they'd have won a couple of All Irelands. He impowers players and makes them better and isnt afraid to pick youngster ahead of established players.
And if Kildare had €2M of crooked money a year for a decade they could buy 5 in a row too.
If Gavin can win Sam with another county he will get the credit he deserves. If he simply fills his pockets and runs away then he won't.
He won 5 in a row as well as winning 5 leagues in 7 years playing attacking football and doesn't get paid to manage Dublin (unlike other club & county managers). If he chooses to step down it certainly won't be a case of running away.
Were Daly and Cunningham volunteers also for the Hurlers?
Well Nicky English turned down the job as "expenses" weren't sufficent. At least he recommended Daly for the job.
Good news this evening - Dublin City Council have voted unanimously to award Jim Gavin the Freedom of the City.
A very fitting award.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 23, 2019, 07:08:17 PM
Good news this evening - Dublin City Council have voted unanimously to award Jim Gavin the Freedom of the City.
A very fitting award.
He is an example to all volunteers out there who give their time for free!
Quote from: under the bar on September 21, 2019, 08:34:27 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on September 20, 2019, 09:43:17 PM
Quote from: under the bar on September 20, 2019, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on September 17, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
I notice not one of you have considered that Gavin was the tactician that showed us all how to break down the mass blanket defence whilst winning five in a row. Identifying it, coaching it and then executing it saved the game for us all. That's in itself we should all be grateful of and puts him up in that greatest category
Bulldung.
Gavin's success is built on money and privilege alone. Could he do the same with Mayo? No. Enough said.
Christ your bitter. For years people thought the only to beat the blanket was go like for like. Gavin showed another way.
If Gavin was in charge of Mayo they'd have won a couple of All Irelands. He impowers players and makes them better and isnt afraid to pick youngster ahead of established players.
And if Kildare had €2M of crooked money a year for a decade they could buy 5 in a row too.
If Gavin can win Sam with another county he will get the credit he deserves. If he simply fills his pockets and runs away then he won't.
Fills his pockets? With what?
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 23, 2019, 07:08:17 PM
Good news this evening - Dublin City Council have voted unanimously to award Jim Gavin the Freedom of the City.
A very fitting award.
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Dublin will find it tough this year without Gavin. Especially in Leinster where 4 or 5 counties are waiting in the long grass to take advantage of Dublin not having him on the sideline anymore. 10 in a row won't be as easy as it looks!
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 18, 2020, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 18, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
;)
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I suspect the ;) is about some drivel doing the rounds about his private life. No doubt the Tyronies will use it as a bit of sledging when they inevitably take a drubbing from the Dubs later in the year.
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 18, 2020, 09:31:17 PM
Dublin will find it tough this year without Gavin. Especially in Leinster where 4 or 5 counties are waiting in the long grass to take advantage of Dublin not having him on the sideline anymore. 10 in a row won't be as easy as it looks!
I thought thread below was the one for emptying the load regards the jackeens 😉
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29541.0
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:34:47 PM
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Quote from: RedHand88 on January 18, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
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I suspect the ;) is about some drivel doing the rounds about his private life. No doubt the Tyronies will use it as a bit of sledging when they inevitably take a drubbing from the Dubs later in the year.
What this drivel? Didn't he get some award last night?
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 18, 2020, 09:40:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:34:47 PM
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;)
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I suspect the ;) is about some drivel doing the rounds about his private life. No doubt the Tyronies will use it as a bit of sledging when they inevitably take a drubbing from the Dubs later in the year.
What this drivel? Didn't he get some award last night?
Search his name on Twitter. I'm not going to put that sort of pish on here.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:41:38 PM
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Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:34:47 PM
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Quote from: RedHand88 on January 18, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
;)
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I suspect the ;) is about some drivel doing the rounds about his private life. No doubt the Tyronies will use it as a bit of sledging when they inevitably take a drubbing from the Dubs later in the year.
What this drivel? Didn't he get some award last night?
Search his name on Twitter. I'm not going to put that sort of pish on here.
Googled his name and the freedom of Dublin came up. Am I missing something here??
Something like this goes to show the power of social media nowadays & fake news - a complete nonsense story is made up - sent round on WhatsApp as fact with no vetting whatsoever & you've I'm sure sensible men believing this & in turn castigating a man / wife & young family!
Could all do with taking a look at ourselves before sharing this style of sh**e
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 18, 2020, 09:40:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:34:47 PM
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Quote from: RedHand88 on January 18, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
;)
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I suspect the ;) is about some drivel doing the rounds about his private life. No doubt the Tyronies will use it as a bit of sledging when they inevitably take a drubbing from the Dubs later in the year.
What this drivel? Didn't he get some award last night?
Search his name on Twitter. I'm not going to put that sort of pish on here.
Why even mention it ?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 18, 2020, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 18, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
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I suspect the ;) is about some drivel doing the rounds about his private life. No doubt the Tyronies will use it as a bit of sledging when they inevitably take a drubbing from the Dubs later in the year.
The only one alluding to any shenanigans here is you. I was referring to him winning the freedom of the city. Congratulations for putting your foot firmly in your mouth.
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Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:34:47 PM
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Quote from: RedHand88 on January 18, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
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I suspect the ;) is about some drivel doing the rounds about his private life. No doubt the Tyronies will use it as a bit of sledging when they inevitably take a drubbing from the Dubs later in the year.
The only one alluding to any shenanigans here is you. I was referring to him winning the freedom of the city. Congratulations for putting your foot firmly in your mouth.
Bulls**t. New what you were doing. Sad to think there are people out there putting out crap like that and spreading it on the internet on what was such a proud day for the family.
Wasn't many Tyrone men talking about the pics of Mickey harte and the new woman.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:41:38 PM
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Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 18, 2020, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 18, 2020, 09:22:20 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 18, 2020, 10:22:57 AM
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I suspect the ;) is about some drivel doing the rounds about his private life. No doubt the Tyronies will use it as a bit of sledging when they inevitably take a drubbing from the Dubs later in the year.
What this drivel? Didn't he get some award last night?
Search his name on Twitter. I'm not going to put that sort of pish on here.
Its hardly a secret, he brought the new lady to the All Stars.
He's pictured with his wife and family at the event last night.
Its not true.
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Its not true.
Sire thats that sorted so. ::)
My stalker friend, look into in yourself and come back to me.
Quote from: southtyronegael on January 19, 2020, 03:36:04 PM
Wasn't many Tyrone men talking about the pics of Mickey harte and the new woman.
Hearing this, Early 30's I have been told. Talk of the building site this last week or more
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Quote from: southtyronegael on January 19, 2020, 03:36:04 PM
Wasn't many Tyrone men talking about the pics of Mickey harte and the new woman.
Hearing this, Early 30's I have been told. Talk of the building site this last week or more
Must be true so.
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Quote from: southtyronegael on January 19, 2020, 03:36:04 PM
Wasn't many Tyrone men talking about the pics of Mickey harte and the new woman.
Hearing this, Early 30's I have been told. Talk of the building site this last week or more
Also heard the rumour. But as with most such rumours, there's most likely absolutely nothing too it. But at least when you hear it on the building site, who know who's telling you the story. It takes a very special type of w**ker to hide behind a false name and post damaging and most likely bulls**t rumours online about someone purely because they don't like their style of football management. STG is that w**ker.
You might not like Harte (you've polluted this site for long enough with nasty abuse about him), but spreading rumours like this from behind your cloak if anonymity, takes it to a disgraceful new low that probably just hurts Harte's family more than it does Harte himself. Grow the fck up.
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Quote from: mup on January 20, 2020, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on January 20, 2020, 09:21:58 AM
Its not true.
Sire thats that sorted so. ::)
My stalker friend, look into in yourself and come back to me.
Ye two are like Paul Galvin and Noel O'Leary. Get a room.
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Quote from: southtyronegael on January 19, 2020, 03:36:04 PM
Wasn't many Tyrone men talking about the pics of Mickey harte and the new woman.
Hearing this, Early 30's I have been told. Talk of the building site this last week or more
Also heard the rumour. But as with most such rumours, there's most likely absolutely nothing too it. But at least when you hear it on the building site, who know who's telling you the story. It takes a very special type of w**ker to hide behind a false name and post damaging and most likely bulls**t rumours online about someone purely because they don't like their style of football management. STG is that w**ker.
You might not like Harte (you've polluted this site for long enough with nasty abuse about him), but spreading rumours like this from behind your cloak if anonymity, takes it to a disgraceful new low that probably just hurts Harte's family more than it does Harte himself. Grow the fck up.
hang on a minute, a few Tyrone posters were having digs a Jim Gavin so I merely pointed out that there are similar rumours about our own manager. Never said they were true and couldn't care less if they are. What a pontificating gobshite you are.
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Quote from: Snapchap on January 20, 2020, 01:14:17 PM
Quote from: Gaagaagaa20 on January 20, 2020, 12:32:46 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on January 19, 2020, 03:36:04 PM
Wasn't many Tyrone men talking about the pics of Mickey harte and the new woman.
Hearing this, Early 30's I have been told. Talk of the building site this last week or more
Also heard the rumour. But as with most such rumours, there's most likely absolutely nothing too it. But at least when you hear it on the building site, who know who's telling you the story. It takes a very special type of w**ker to hide behind a false name and post damaging and most likely bulls**t rumours online about someone purely because they don't like their style of football management. STG is that w**ker.
You might not like Harte (you've polluted this site for long enough with nasty abuse about him), but spreading rumours like this from behind your cloak if anonymity, takes it to a disgraceful new low that probably just hurts Harte's family more than it does Harte himself. Grow the fck up.
hang on a minute, a few Tyrone posters were having digs a Jim Gavin so I merely pointed out that there are similar rumours about our own manager. Never said they were true and couldn't care less if they are. What a pontificating gobshite you are.
What a f**king pathetic attempt at a justification. People discuss a b.s. runour about Jim Gavin so that somehow justifies you posting a likely b.s. rumour about Mickey Harte and presenting the rumours as fact? Two wrongs make a right yeah?
And like the little coward you are, you now pretend you weren't making any comment about whether the rumours are true. Firstly, you still posted the rumour to a public forum and secondly, did you say "the alleged pics" or "his alleged new woman"? No. You presented it as fact. You spoke of "the pics of Mickey Harte and the new woman".
At some stage do you ever sit back and think about the damage you can do by anonymously posting rumours about someone's personal life online?
It's nothing to do with pontificating. FFS you might not like Harte but have a bit of f**king thought about the effect it can have on his family to be anonymously posting B.S. rumours about him. You're a complete f**ing low life.
Apparently the rumours are true. I seen the pics.
Plus I know a guy who works on a building site and he heard it.
Quote from: southtyronegael on January 20, 2020, 06:50:50 PM
Apparently the rumours are true. I seen the pics.
I'm sure you have ::)
So much for your defence that you were only reporting that the rumour existed but weren't commenting on the extent of truth of it.
Go away and get yourself a hobby.
This is my hobby.
Quote from: southtyronegael on January 20, 2020, 06:50:50 PM
Apparently the rumours are true. I seen the pics.
Clearly the alleged "new woman" is either your wife or your mother. It would explain a lot.
Had the pleasure of attending a talk by Jim Gavin recently. The man is an inspiration. He will be a savage loss to the Dublin setup. It must have been phenomenal to have worked with this guy.
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Quote from: mup on January 20, 2020, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on January 20, 2020, 09:21:58 AM
Its not true.
Sire thats that sorted so. ::)
My stalker friend, look into in yourself and come back to me.
Well tbf your history on here would mean one would find it difficult to believe anything you post.
Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf?
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Quote from: TheGreatest on January 20, 2020, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: mup on January 20, 2020, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on January 20, 2020, 09:21:58 AM
Its not true.
Sire thats that sorted so. ::)
My stalker friend, look into in yourself and come back to me.
Well tbf your history on here would mean one would find it difficult to believe anything you post.
Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf?
Not to pollute the thread, point to statements that cant be proved not true.
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 21, 2020, 11:26:07 AM
Had the pleasure of attending a talk by Jim Gavin recently. The man is an inspiration. He will be a savage loss to the Dublin setup. It must have been phenomenal to have worked with this guy.
+1. Great to hear from the man himself as opposed to the reserved persona he presents to the media.