Ulster Minor Club all-time All Stars

[Maximus Marillius]

I know they are...whats yer point

[saffron sam2]

Moron indeed.

It really is a farce...Bellaghy won it twice and don't even have a nomination...some wind up. For instance in the second final David O'Neill marked Ger Cavlan and completely snuffed him it of it.

Each club who participated in the competition were asked to nominate players from their teams - if David O'Neill for instance was not nominated then the fault lies fairly and squarely with the ones we all fear.

From the original list of nominations, available on the St Paul's website, it can be seen that the only Bellaghy player originally nominated was one Joseph Cassidy.  This nomination could have come from the Bellaghy club or from someone taking the piss, I don't know. Would Joe have made the list ahead of many of the other forwards listed, or indeed any of the forwards listed? I think not.

Isn't that editing wile handy Max, unfortunately Slim didn't quote you original statement in his post.

[Candyman]

you say Cavan Gaels got to 3 finals and are hard done by in only getting 2 nominations?? Armagh Harps got to the final 2 years in a row and won it in 2003, yet they didint even get a single nomination!!

[Maximus Marillius]

It all depends on the criteria...as a minor yes ...as a senior for 2/3 yes....as a senior career...no. is there a set criteria for selection unto team...if it is not based on what happened on the shaws road....whats the point of it...St Pauls telling some players...ah sure we thought he had a great career after ye left minors, which had feck all to do with us, but heres the award anyway.

[Uladh]

Like all of these things, this will be picked on career achievements and not their performances in the tournamant they're being picked for participating in. the first indicator is the nomination of john mc at half forward. john never kicked a ball further up the field than midfield til he was well out of minor.

edit:

also, whilst avery solid performer, francie never stood out at that level.

[trueblue]

my team would be

Benny tierney
kieran mc keever
francie bellew
chris lawn
aaron kernan
barry monaghan
paul mc flynn
anthony tohill
cormac mc anallgerard cavlan
brian mc guigan
oisin mc conville
joe brolly
ronan clarke
stevie mc donell

[Bogball XV]

If any of ye detractors had bothered reading the selection criteria there might be less moaning from ye, if ye want the awards to be based on performances in the competition itself, then set up your own awards  (and as ye rightly say, that would be an impossible task).

Selection was based on their success throughout their playing career, not only their contribution at minor level. We asked individuals and clubs to nominate players for inclusion in the team.

[brokencrossbar1]

This is farcical.  Number 1 , Iam not nominated , number 2 we have got probably the most nominations and never even won it.  FFs, the year we won the Armagh championship, the Loup put us out int the first round!  Anyway, anything to get something some publicity.

[J70]

For those who obviously haven't read the selection criteria:

Selection was based on their success throughout their playing career, not only their contribution at minor level. We asked individuals and clubs to nominate players for inclusion in the team.

[Maximus Marillius]

This is farcical.  Number 1 , Iam not nominated , number 2 we have got probably the most nominations and never even won it.  FFs, the year we won the Armagh championship, the Loup put us out int the first round!  Anyway, anything to get something some publicity.

BC spotty dog. It is almost cringe worthy

[full back]

It is just a back-slapping exercise

[Bogball XV]

The team is already almost picked - it's not being selected in the Allstars manner of a player being able to fill any forward position, ie 18 players vying for the 6 forward slots, instead it's 3 nominations per position:
Hearty
McKeever
Bellew
Mallon
Kernan
Cunningham
McGowan
Tohill
McAnallen
McNicholl
McGuigan
McConville
Brolly
Clarke
McEntee (T)/ Manus Boyle

Just an after thought, surely the Downey's and McGurks must have played in this?? (the halfback selections are poor)

[lynchbhoy]

I also agree that the half back selections are very poor

[Maximus Marillius]

As a side show to this farce...how many of bogballs team actually have a winners medal

ONes who dont I think

Hearty
Mc keever
Bellew
Kieran
Tohill
Mc Anallen
Mc Nicholl
Mc Guigan
Mc Conville
Brolley
Mc Entee

Lavey took part in it in 1983 with both Henry Downey, John Mc Gurk and seasmus Downey all playing...flawed...cringe worthy!

[Bogball XV]

Lavey took part in it in 1983 with both Henry Downey, John Mc Gurk and seasmus Downey all playing...flawed...cringe worthy!

Ah now Max, you'd think when you were in nominating your cousin you'd have noticed that Lavey had won Derry in '83 and '84 and had no nominations, even though Henry, Jim and the McGurks had all played.
Obviously a bit of problem with computer literacy about Lavey!!