According to the our wee country forum a few posters are planning to cause trouble because of the CAS ruling. Below is a copy of one of the posts. They plan to wreck the stadium according to the poster Big Rab. I suppose what else can you expect from a pig but a grunt.
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QUOTE (Marty @ Jul 30 2010, 05:31 PM)
Seriously, I think it is taken for granted now we must have nothing to do with the FAI.
The image I now have in my head is not one which I would normally admit, but to hell with it.
I'm thinking of seats being ripped up and thrown, terrified corporate guests from the glitterati of the Irish corporate fraud banking and construction industries being assisted in escaping down corridors away from the maelstrom, Gardai turning away and running in the face of never before encountered violence, the pitch being invaded and coated in industrial strength weedkiller leaving it drier and more parched than Bairbre de Brun's clitoris, the posts being discharged in the direction of the dressing room, Liam Brady struggling to escape over a fence, and all of a sudden flames starting to lick up the back wall of the stand.
That's the sort of thing which will get me banned and probably arrested, but f**k it, it's a more satisfying thought than boycotting a second rate friendly tournament.
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They know what this is about. What do I have? Nothing but you egg sucking chicken stealing gutter trash with not even 60 rounds between you. We're after men. And I wish to God I was with them.
The next time you make a mistake, I'll ride off and let you die.
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Sounds like a nice fella that!
What a ****.
He can't be that bad, after all he says he doesn't normally have thoughts like that...
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
Quote from: ziggysego on July 30, 2010, 07:22:44 PM
He can't be that bad, after all he says he doesn't normally have thoughts like that...
Maybe we should all post thoughts we normally don't have and see how we get on.
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
I made a comment telling them to cop on it was my first comment even though i have been a member there for 3 years and it seems i have since been banned. Anyone else have access to it? dont know about the Police though is it that serious? its a bit scummy alright but i'd say its half in jest?
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
I made a comment telling them to cop on it was my first comment even though i have been a member there for 3 years and it seems i have since been banned. Anyone else have access to it? dont know about the Police though is it that serious? its a bit scummy alright but i'd say its half in jest?
Suppose you're right. All I'm saying is if the shoe was on the other foot...
I can understand why people are pissed off about this but it will hopefully lead to Windsor Park finally being made a neutral place for fans to go. If it doesn't then we can have our own team to watch and play for. It's absolutely infuriating to hear the same people who call us fenian bastards, beggars and scumbags turn round and tell us to play for 'our' country when they have made little attempt to ingratiate us to their team.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
I made a comment telling them to cop on it was my first comment even though i have been a member there for 3 years and it seems i have since been banned. Anyone else have access to it? dont know about the Police though is it that serious? its a bit scummy alright but i'd say its half in jest?
If there were 10's of people on that site saying that then I'd be concerned but you know you can get one nut job typing shite on any site. What is more interesting is why someone from Mayo would register with that site and why someone from Mayo would become infected with worry, from our northern friends, over a minority of imbeciles on another forum to such an extent as they would start a thread on it here?
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QUOTE (leftwinger @ Jul 30 2010, 07:04 PM) *
Careful what you post, even if it's in jest. You'll be quoted on the Six O'clock News next. thumbsup.gif
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0
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Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
Some Vile crap going on up there alright....You made BIG RABS night...
Boycott the ROI matches in the Aviva now..As if anyone wants them there...
Afraid of being tanked thats all thats wrong!
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2010, 08:16:13 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
I made a comment telling them to cop on it was my first comment even though i have been a member there for 3 years and it seems i have since been banned. Anyone else have access to it? dont know about the Police though is it that serious? its a bit scummy alright but i'd say its half in jest?
If there were 10's of people on that site saying that then I'd be concerned but you know you can get one nut job typing shite on any site. What is more interesting is why someone from Mayo would register with that site and why someone from Mayo would become infected with worry, from our northern friends, over a minority of imbeciles on another forum to such an extent as they would start a thread on it here?
Well it was not just him. The admin and others seemed to be backing him up. Me i like reading sports forums from this island this one required that you sign up before you could read them so i did. I'm Irish arent i? can i not be worried about my national stadium and the plans of bigots to come down and wreck it? This website is nearly as official as you can get for Northern Ireland football supporters and they seem to be advocating violence. I apologies if i upset you for putting up the thread.
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
I made a comment telling them to cop on it was my first comment even though i have been a member there for 3 years and it seems i have since been banned. Anyone else have access to it? dont know about the Police though is it that serious? its a bit scummy alright but i'd say its half in jest?
Feelings are running pretty high on OWC at the moment - it's a hugely emotive issue and NI fans are hacked off by the decision. If you made your first post after waiting for 3 years, they have every right to suspect that you're trolling and consequently to prevent you accessing the site.
Out of solidarity with the OWCers, I too plan to boycott the Aviva Stadium and Republic of Ireland matches
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2010, 08:16:13 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
I made a comment telling them to cop on it was my first comment even though i have been a member there for 3 years and it seems i have since been banned. Anyone else have access to it? dont know about the Police though is it that serious? its a bit scummy alright but i'd say its half in jest?
If there were 10's of people on that site saying that then I'd be concerned but you know you can get one nut job typing shite on any site. What is more interesting is why someone from Mayo would register with that site and why someone from Mayo would become infected with worry, from our northern friends, over a minority of imbeciles on another forum to such an extent as they would start a thread on it here?
You're right about that--my comment was at least 10 % tongue in cheek, I don't think someone dreaming up an Aviva armageddon is tantamount to a threat. I just would be very worried for the safety of Irish fans if the large element of hooligans in the Northern support got their hands on them. God knows the last thing we need is more disputes to add fuel to the fire for any prospective matches given the history of the fixture.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
I made a comment telling them to cop on it was my first comment even though i have been a member there for 3 years and it seems i have since been banned. Anyone else have access to it? dont know about the Police though is it that serious? its a bit scummy alright but i'd say its half in jest?
Feelings are running pretty high on OWC at the moment - it's a hugely emotive issue and NI fans are hacked off by the decision. If you made your first post after waiting for 3 years, they have every right to suspect that you're trolling and consequently to prevent you accessing the site.
Well I got banned because my cousin picked ROI instead of NI..Had to register a different account to see all the vile hatred they posted about him....
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2010, 08:16:13 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
I made a comment telling them to cop on it was my first comment even though i have been a member there for 3 years and it seems i have since been banned. Anyone else have access to it? dont know about the Police though is it that serious? its a bit scummy alright but i'd say its half in jest?
If there were 10's of people on that site saying that then I'd be concerned but you know you can get one nut job typing shite on any site. What is more interesting is why someone from Mayo would register with that site and why someone from Mayo would become infected with worry, from our northern friends, over a minority of imbeciles on another forum to such an extent as they would start a thread on it here?
Well it was not just him. The admin and others seemed to be backing him up. Me i like reading sports forums from this island this one required that you sign up before you could read them so i did. I'm Irish arent i? can i not be worried about my national stadium and the plans of bigots to come down and wreck it? This website is nearly as official as you can get for Northern Ireland football supporters and they seem to be advocating violence. I apologies if i upset you for putting up the thread.
I'm not upset, just don't understand why anyone would give a shite what some clown wants to do to the Aviva. If it worries you fire away...
Saw the end of the USA v N of I in the Milk Cup tonight. Grovelling apology made by BBC to the keeper over something said earlier by a commentator. Massively curious.
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
'I feel like my wee country is being eroded away, being broken piece by piece by those aiming for one goal... the unification of Ireland.
We have this CAS decision, Mary McAleese opening up businesses among other things in Northern Ireland, the DUP step down to the Hunger Strike shrine at the Maze, terrorists in Government, Republic of Ireland being referred to as Ireland, news and sports headline stories originating from the South, public enquiries left right and centre, unionist/protestant halls and monuments being destroyed, top public/private jobs going the way of roman catholics/nationalists etc. etc.
Maybe its time for a Civil Rights Movement of our own?'
Deluded.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
But you can post anything you want about the "beggars" or be banned for disagreeing with their view....explain please
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
Look i dont agree with you there, as i mentioned before i occasionally used to read up on stuff on that website and i'd be sickened afterwards and you could feel the bitterness through the computer screen, if i made a comment that i was going to burn down windsor on this or any other GAA site i dont think that i would be still there the next day.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
It's moderated to a 'better standard' in that the mods are more interventionist, perhaps, but the level of abuse that persists on that website which is 'allowed' by mods is such that you wouldn't find on here. It's only moderated better because there is a horrible imbalance of opinions on there. The very fact that you're decrying the personal abuse, threats and exhortations to fight demonstrates the autonomy of this forum working in full swing.
PS your man Rab obviously thinks I've rang up the Crimestoppers and all cause he's laughing away and making jokes. Hope I've given him some light relief anyway, the poor bastards need something to cheer them up on that cesspit of delusion, paranoia and misery.
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 30, 2010, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
But you can post anything you want about the "beggars" or be banned for disagreeing with their view....explain please
I don't like the term 'beggars' and I've said so on the OWC site. Up until 5 minutes ago I haven't been banned yet. I disagree with people on there quite frequently and many disagree with some of my posts. So long as you do so within the rules - i.e no personal abuse, no trolling - nobody gets too steamed up about it. There are one or two from the GAA Board who post on OWC and while they take a bit of flak, they argue their corner and haven't been banned. Sometimes it's not what you say, but how and when you say it.
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 30, 2010, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
But you can post anything you want about the "beggars" or be banned for disagreeing with their view....explain please
Exactly. Probably well moderated for the users of the site. Yet it appears anything goes with regards to vitriolic attacks on anything Irish and/or Catholic despite several references in the acceptable use conditions stating that use of the site for political means or offensive, vulgar posts are not tolerated. I also seem to remember someone saying that a mod released personal information on some of the posters. Can't sink much lower than that.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
There's personal abuse, threats etc all the time on OWC - but they're made against the right people or stadiums so it's ok.
None of us would be able to do on there what you do here myles, we'd be banned.
I'd love to see the north's "supporters" start a riot - we all know what they'd get.
And all because they can't force young taigs to play for them.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
some of the stuff posted on that site is vile and beyond comprehension and you know it, yet you still feel the need to defend it? why?
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
There's personal abuse, threats etc all the time on OWC - but they're made against the right people or stadiums so it's ok.
None of us would be able to do on there what you do here myles, we'd be banned.I'd love to see the north's "supporters" start a riot - we all know what they'd get.
And all because they can't force young taigs to play for them.
Either back that up with direct reference to one of my posts, or withdraw it.
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
There's personal abuse, threats etc all the time on OWC - but they're made against the right people or stadiums so it's ok.
None of us would be able to do on there what you do here myles, we'd be banned.I'd love to see the north's "supporters" start a riot - we all know what they'd get.
And all because they can't force young taigs to play for them.
Either back that up with direct reference to one of my posts, or withdraw it.
I concur with pints...I got banned from OWC because i commented on my cousin picking ROI instead on NI....You come on here just to wind people up.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
As i was less then two hours ago with my first post despite been a member for three years.
Quote from: magickingdom on July 30, 2010, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
some of the stuff posted on that site is vile and beyond comprehension and you know it, yet you still feel the need to defend it? why?
You think this site is all sweetness and light? There are certainly a few posters on OWC with extreme loyalist views, but these would be challenged by other posters fairly quickly. Equally there are ones on here with extreme republican views, people who would quite happily justify the murders committed by republican paramilitaries. I happen to find that pretty vile, don't you?
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
Any website which has a forum called 'football apartheid', the most misguided use of that word ever, is hardly going to be policed properly. Let's look at a proper definition:
crimes against humanity 'committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime'.
Indeed ::). One might be tempted to look at a non-sporting regime in Ireland over the past century instead.
Edit: We've got a new one, in that very aptly named forum: 'Right now I feel like going down to Merrion Square and petrol bombing the place, preferably while that c**t Delaney is in it.'
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Is big rab any different than tony fearon.
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2010, 09:14:15 PM
Is big rab any different than tony fearon.
If I were Big Rab, I would be mortally offended by that
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2010, 09:14:15 PM
Is big rab any different than tony fearon.
Yes but he was rightly mocked and scorned and since banned. That in my opinion wouldn't happen over there, because the majority here have an open mind and a bit of reason.
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2010, 09:19:47 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on July 30, 2010, 09:18:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2010, 09:14:15 PM
Is big rab any different than tony fearon.
Yes but he was rightly mocked and scorned and since banned. That in my opinion wouldn't happen over there, because the majority here have an open mind and a bit of reason.
Tony Fearon was banned?
Chance'd be a fine thing
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
If you aren't a GAA fan then why are you here? What are you for?
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
If you aren't a GAA fan then why are you here? What are you for?
I thought this was the non GAA section?
Myles you can Hmm and Haa and whatabout all you like. I'd have a particularly low tolerance of the "politically staunch" posters on here. There have certainly been times when posters have been less than scrupulous (and real life dangerous) when playing the man instead of the ball - and we don't need to go back to far to find the culprits. There are plenty of abusive posts that get missed here and there by the moderators - and I'll wager a fair bit of that is because it isnt reported by most on here. If you are trying to compare however, the level of sectarian bile that spews out of that cesspit of a discussion board known as OWC to what goes on over here - then the last shred of your "one of us" masquerade is gone completely.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
If you aren't a GAA fan then why are you here? What are you for?
I thought this was the non GAA section?
The Non-GAA section on GAAboard? Are there any non-soccer fans on OWC?
Quote from: muppet on July 30, 2010, 07:57:59 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on July 30, 2010, 07:22:44 PM
He can't be that bad, after all he says he doesn't normally have thoughts like that...
Maybe we should all post thoughts we normally don't have and see how we get on.
You really are a muppet aren't you :D I wasn't being serious :P
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
Ok, not GAA supporter, nationalist. You still claiming you're a nationalist?
I told you all your posts are shit stirring - but if it makes you feel better I point to your posts on this thread.
You didn't answer deiseach - have you posted on OWC condemning those comments?
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
If you aren't a GAA fan then why are you here? What are you for?
Because he's a WUM..And he doe's a pretty good job at it too....
Quote from: Puckoon on July 30, 2010, 09:27:28 PM
Myles you can Hmm and Haa and whatabout all you like. I'd have a particularly low tolerance of the "politically staunch" posters on here. There have certainly been times when posters have been less than scrupulous (and real life dangerous) when playing the man instead of the ball - and we don't need to go back to far to find the culprits. There are plenty of abusive posts that get missed here and there by the moderators - and I'll wager a fair bit of that is because it isnt reported by most on here. If you are trying to compare however, the level of sectarian bile that spews out of that cesspit of a discussion board known as OWC to what goes on over here - then the last shred of your "one of us" masquerade is gone completely.
'One of us' in what sense? I've never claimed to be a GAA fan and it must be fairly obvious to all that I'm definitely not a republican. If that makes me one of 'themmuns' in your eyes, then that says more about you than it does about me.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:29:44 PM
Ok, not GAA supporter, nationalist. You still claiming you're a nationalist?
I told you all your posts are shit stirring - but if it makes you feel better I point to your posts on this thread.
You didn't answer deiseach - have you posted on OWC condemning those comments?
Crap, I deleted that comment because I didn 't want to have to trawl through ten pages of comments on OWC to prove that nothing had been said. Cheers, pints.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on July 30, 2010, 09:27:28 PM
Myles you can Hmm and Haa and whatabout all you like. I'd have a particularly low tolerance of the "politically staunch" posters on here. There have certainly been times when posters have been less than scrupulous (and real life dangerous) when playing the man instead of the ball - and we don't need to go back to far to find the culprits. There are plenty of abusive posts that get missed here and there by the moderators - and I'll wager a fair bit of that is because it isnt reported by most on here. If you are trying to compare however, the level of sectarian bile that spews out of that cesspit of a discussion board known as OWC to what goes on over here - then the last shred of your "one of us" masquerade is gone completely.
'One of us' in what sense? I've never claimed to be a GAA fan and it must be fairly obvious to all that I'm definitely not a republican. If that makes me one of 'themmuns' in your eyes, then that says more about you than it does about me.
One question are you defending the OWC regarding there comments?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on July 30, 2010, 09:27:28 PM
Myles you can Hmm and Haa and whatabout all you like. I'd have a particularly low tolerance of the "politically staunch" posters on here. There have certainly been times when posters have been less than scrupulous (and real life dangerous) when playing the man instead of the ball - and we don't need to go back to far to find the culprits. There are plenty of abusive posts that get missed here and there by the moderators - and I'll wager a fair bit of that is because it isnt reported by most on here. If you are trying to compare however, the level of sectarian bile that spews out of that cesspit of a discussion board known as OWC to what goes on over here - then the last shred of your "one of us" masquerade is gone completely.
'One of us' in what sense? I've never claimed to be a GAA fan and it must be fairly obvious to all that I'm definitely not a republican. If that makes me one of 'themmuns' in your eyes, then that says more about you than it does about me.
Nah nah - See I am not a republican either - so there goes that argument.
QuoteThe IFA and supporters need to take a long look at themselves, why take a Union flag to a game as opposed to a NI flag or just a cross of St Pats. What is the reasoning behind it? Same with shouting No Surrender during GSTQ. Why? If Britishness is so important why haven't we got a campaign for a All British team? As for GSTQ rather than a NI sporting anthem, well we have had pages on that. Take it even deeper, the NI flag used proudly on this website......
We can't continue to go on about how wonderful Football for All is and polish our awards. If the parents of a young catholic player, with a decision to make, had been standing anywhere near me in recent home and away games in Europe, I wouldn't blame them at all if they made use of the new Newry by pass!
Sad but true.
Credit where it's due, a very liberal and sensible post from OWC, and one I genuinely believe reflects at least a significant minority.
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
If you aren't a GAA fan then why are you here? What are you for?
I thought this was the non GAA section?
The Non-GAA section on GAAboard? Are there any non-soccer fans on OWC?
Apologies - I meant non GAA discussion, obviously. And yes, there are certainly a few non soccer fans - or at least non OWC fans - on that Board.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
Ok, not GAA supporter, nationalist. You still claiming you're a nationalist?
I told you all your posts are shit stirring - but if it makes you feel better I point to your posts on this thread.
You didn't answer deiseach - have you posted on OWC condemning those comments?
Thank you. I'm glad you've withdrawn that particular comment, at least.
I don't claim to be a nationalist. I am a nationalist.
My posts on here are shit stirring? Why? Because they happen to disagree with the general consensus of opinion on here? If that's your definition of shit stirring, then I'm probably guilty as charged. You win.
And no, I didn't see deiseach's post.
You claim to be a nationalist, I think we all know you're not.
At least the other owc boys here don't pretend they're something they're not.
What did you say on OWC in response to that nonsense?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
If you aren't a GAA fan then why are you here? What are you for?
I thought this was the non GAA section?
The Non-GAA section on GAAboard? Are there any non-soccer fans on OWC?
Apologies - I meant non GAA discussion, obviously. And yes, there are certainly a few non soccer fans - or at least non OWC fans - on that Board.
Not the question I asked. I would go on other soccer forums to see opinions of other fans; I would not go on a rugby forum. Do you see the difference?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:05:40 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on July 30, 2010, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
some of the stuff posted on that site is vile and beyond comprehension and you know it, yet you still feel the need to defend it? why?
You think this site is all sweetness and light? There are certainly a few posters on OWC with extreme loyalist views, but these would be challenged by other posters fairly quickly. Equally there are ones on here with extreme republican views, people who would quite happily justify the murders committed by republican paramilitaries. I happen to find that pretty vile, don't you?
any objective observer would tell you this site is telly tubbies in comparsion to the bitterness, ignorance and sickening hatred that exists on owc. delusion and denial is one thing, the bile on that site isnt acceptable in this day and age. tick toc for them because the world has moved on
Quote from: deiseach on July 30, 2010, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:29:44 PM
Ok, not GAA supporter, nationalist. You still claiming you're a nationalist?
I told you all your posts are shit stirring - but if it makes you feel better I point to your posts on this thread.
You didn't answer deiseach - have you posted on OWC condemning those comments?
Crap, I deleted that comment because I didn 't want to have to trawl through ten pages of comments on OWC to prove that nothing had been said. Cheers, pints.
It's ok, I'm sure myles wont mind copying and pasting what he said on there.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
Yeah, moderation's really crap on this site ... look at the guff they regularly let you spout
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
If you aren't a GAA fan then why are you here? What are you for?
I thought this was the non GAA section?
The Non-GAA section on GAAboard? Are there any non-soccer fans on OWC?
Apologies - I meant non GAA discussion, obviously. And yes, there are certainly a few non soccer fans - or at least non OWC fans - on that Board.
Not the question I asked. I would go on other soccer forums to see opinions of other fans; I would not go on a rugby forum. Do you see the difference?
I see the difference, but it's irrelevant. I come on to sports forums primarily to discuss politics, enjoy the humour and sneak a look at pictures of scantily clad weemin. When I want to discuss sport, I phone the da.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:42:42 PM
You claim to be a nationalist, I think we all know you're not.
At least the other owc boys here don't pretend they're something they're not.
What did you say on OWC in response to that nonsense?
Then you think wrong, doesn't you?
If I told you what I said on OWC you'd know my username on there, wouldn't you? Can't have that.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
Funnily enough that's not actually true at all - I've come across him before in "real life" and he's fairly articulate and well educated.
Still he hasn't carried through his threat to burn down the Maze yet so I think the security at the Aviva shouldn't be overly worried about his rantings.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 10:04:45 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:42:42 PM
You claim to be a nationalist, I think we all know you're not.
At least the other owc boys here don't pretend they're something they're not.
What did you say on OWC in response to that nonsense?
Then you think wrong, doesn't you?
If I told you what I said on OWC you'd know my username on there, wouldn't you? Can't have that.
Why would that be a problem? Afraid someone would go thorugh your posts on owc and show you up for what you are?
Did you even post any response to those remarks on owc?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
If you aren't a GAA fan then why are you here? What are you for?
I thought this was the non GAA section?
The Non-GAA section on GAAboard? Are there any non-soccer fans on OWC?
Apologies - I meant non GAA discussion, obviously. And yes, there are certainly a few non soccer fans - or at least non OWC fans - on that Board.
Not the question I asked. I would go on other soccer forums to see opinions of other fans; I would not go on a rugby forum. Do you see the difference?
I see the difference, but it's irrelevant. I come on to sports forums primarily to discuss politics, enjoy the humour and sneak a look at pictures of scantily clad weemin. When I want to discuss sport, I phone the da.
If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?
from owc
QUOTE (leftwinger @ Jul 30 2010, 07:04 PM) *
Careful what you post, even if it's in jest. You'll be quoted on the Six O'clock News next. thumbsup.gif
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0)
That has actually made my evening clapping.gif
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Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
Christ, Father Dougal from Mayo is really worried.
Watch it Rab he is onto you!
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored.
Is Herbie on the GAA board?
Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
another unhappy guy
QUOTE (leftwinger @ Jul 30 2010, 07:04 PM) *
Careful what you post, even if it's in jest. You'll be quoted on the Six O'clock News next. thumbsup.gif
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0)
Must say, the IRFU and FAI have in their own arrogant deceitful ways done more to turn me off the idea of a united Ireland than the IRA ever did. One always had the hope that after the terrorists, there might be people of principle and honour to offer a hand of friendship as NI attempted to rebuild, put the pieces together, the barriers be broken down and the divided people be given a chance to develop together.
All thats happened though is that these duplicitous c**ts have done nothing but undermine and take advantage, sticking the knife in at every chance, going back on long standing 'gentlemen's agreements' and helped in no small manner by the incompetents in the Ulster Branch and the IFA.
They make me f**king sick.
Quote from: gerry on July 30, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
Must say, the IRFU and FAI have in their own arrogant deceitful ways done more to turn me off the idea of a united Ireland than the IRA ever did.
That is the single worst post I've ever read.
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 10:43:43 PM
Quote from: gerry on July 30, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
Must say, the IRFU and FAI have in their own arrogant deceitful ways done more to turn me off the idea of a united Ireland than the IRA ever did.
That is the single worst post I've ever read.
I think it's hilarious
Hello Ulster.
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can someone pm me a username and password for that site so that i can read the thread in question?
Quote from: The Worker on July 30, 2010, 11:44:49 PM
can someone pm me a username and password for that site so that i can read the thread in question?
u want by bank card and pin number as well
Quote from: gerry on July 30, 2010, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: The Worker on July 30, 2010, 11:44:49 PM
can someone pm me a username and password for that site so that i can read the thread in question?
u want by bank card and pin number as well
if your that way intended!
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
Willie is it really that bad in South Armagh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQwrMBRGss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQwrMBRGss)
What happens on OWC when they dont like what you post...Its like a child in the playground "Im taking my ball home, your not playing with it" They can't even put up a proper argument just stop you from posting, and let everyone else post and slate yours...What a bunch of kids.
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Right, there is too many trolls on posting and too many understandably biting.
Threads are becoming shouting matches.
Members are now restricted from posting until the trolls crawl back under their stones.
QUOTE (Hudda Jr @ Jul 30 2010, 11:05 PM) *
Still two hours till closing time
It's going to be a long night...........
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
Ha ha, I always thought you were.
Quote from: gerry on July 30, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
from owc
QUOTE (leftwinger @ Jul 30 2010, 07:04 PM) *
Careful what you post, even if it's in jest. You'll be quoted on the Six O'clock News next. thumbsup.gif
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0)
That has actually made my evening clapping.gif
QUOTE
Report that to the police immediately. I'm serious. If Jerome Quinn gets sacked for comments about coverage then how can someone not be at least reprimanded for that bollocks?
Christ, Father Dougal from Mayo is really worried.
Watch it Rab he is onto you!
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored.
Is Herbie on the GAA board?
Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
another unhappy guy
QUOTE (leftwinger @ Jul 30 2010, 07:04 PM) *
Careful what you post, even if it's in jest. You'll be quoted on the Six O'clock News next. thumbsup.gif
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16961.0)
Must say, the IRFU and FAI have in their own arrogant deceitful ways done more to turn me off the idea of a united Ireland than the IRA ever did. One always had the hope that after the terrorists, there might be people of principle and honour to offer a hand of friendship as NI attempted to rebuild, put the pieces together, the barriers be broken down and the divided people be given a chance to develop together.
All thats happened though is that these duplicitous c**ts have done nothing but undermine and take advantage, sticking the knife in at every chance, going back on long standing 'gentlemen's agreements' and helped in no small manner by the incompetents in the Ulster Branch and the IFA.
They make me f**king sick.
I am confused isn't 1/3 of Ulster in the Republic anyways and overall I supose it would be a Nationalist majority Province, and whats all this shite about the Irish Farmers Association, they have no place in politics unless its smelling out Dublin in their shite covered tractors and then its just funny to annoy the Dubs.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How many times have you been to windsor park then?
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Quote from: The Worker on July 30, 2010, 11:38:59 PM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/422386620_fc19274c6b.jpg)
I think I heard that this place closed down/was sold/changed name recently.
What does that say on Big Ians blouse, Laughing Out Loud, when did the Orange Order go text speak!
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How about responding to mine - what did you say about yon post on owc, did you even say anything and what have you to hide if you're worried about us knowing your username on there?
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 31, 2010, 08:50:58 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2010, 09:01:22 PM
I point to all of your posts - stirring shit - people engage with you on this site on owc someone from here doing what you're doing here would be banned.
Lazy man's answer. Pick out a post and tell us in what way I'm stirring the shit, as opposed to simply disagreeing with a view you hold dear. If you can't or won't, then withdraw your comment.
:D It's not 1969 now you know
If anyone from this board went over to owc, pretending to be a six county soccer supporter (and doing a very bad job of it) and continued to shit stir on every thread they would be banned, do you disagree?
Can you not find a post? I've made 854 of them, so it shouldn't be that hard to back up your statement. And I'd be particularly interested in looking at the one in which I claimed to be a GAA supporter. In your own time.
Ha ha, I always thought you were.
It's dublinfella who claims to be a GAA supporter, I get them mixed up sometimes, their writing styles are identical.
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 31, 2010, 06:05:48 AM
What happens on OWC when they dont like what you post...Its like a child in the playground "Im taking my ball home, your not playing with it" They can't even put up a proper argument just stop you from posting, and let everyone else post and slate yours...What a bunch of kids.
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Right, there is too many trolls on posting and too many understandably biting.
Threads are becoming shouting matches.
Members are now restricted from posting until the trolls crawl back under their stones.
QUOTE (Hudda Jr @ Jul 30 2010, 11:05 PM) *
Still two hours till closing time
It's going to be a long night...........
I don't understand, what has he done? Stopped them posting?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:51:26 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 30, 2010, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
But you can post anything you want about the "beggars" or be banned for disagreeing with their view....explain please
I don't like the term 'beggars' and I've said so on the OWC site. Up until 5 minutes ago I haven't been banned yet. I disagree with people on there quite frequently and many disagree with some of my posts. So long as you do so within the rules - i.e no personal abuse, no trolling - nobody gets too steamed up about it. There are one or two from the GAA Board who post on OWC and while they take a bit of flak, they argue their corner and haven't been banned. Sometimes it's not what you say, but how and when you say it.
Equally there have been plenty from the GAABOARD that have been banned for next to nothing. It is well sanitised that site.
Quote from: The Worker on July 31, 2010, 08:58:47 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How many times have you been to windsor park then?
Probably about a dozen times in total, though haven't been since the early nineties. Mostly went to watch when Cliftonville were playing the Blues, though I also went along to see Man U play an Irish League select side, and one NI match against Malta (Norn Iron won and Mal Donaghy was playing, but that's all I remember). Went to an Irish Cup final round about the same time, Glentoran V Larne. Was also at the Linfield V DC match that ended in a riot, though thankfully I wasn't standing on the Kop that day.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How about responding to mine - what did you say about yon post on owc, did you even say anything and what have you to hide if you're worried about us knowing your username on there?
Why don't you have a look on the forum and see if you can guess who I am? Here's a clue - I'm not Sickboy ;)
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How about responding to mine - what did you say about yon post on owc, did you even say anything and what have you to hide if you're worried about us knowing your username on there?
Why don't you have a look on the forum and see if you can guess who I am? Here's a clue - I'm not Sickboy ;)
I'm not a member so I can't.
What are you ashamed of?
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How about responding to mine - what did you say about yon post on owc, did you even say anything and what have you to hide if you're worried about us knowing your username on there?
Why don't you have a look on the forum and see if you can guess who I am? Here's a clue - I'm not Sickboy ;)
I'm not a member so I can't.
What are you ashamed of?
You don't have to pay to be a member. All you have to do is register. Go ahead - you know it makes sense.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How about responding to mine - what did you say about yon post on owc, did you even say anything and what have you to hide if you're worried about us knowing your username on there?
Why don't you have a look on the forum and see if you can guess who I am? Here's a clue - I'm not Sickboy ;)
I'm not a member so I can't.
What are you ashamed of?
You don't have to pay to be a member. All you have to do is register. Go ahead - you know it makes sense.
I was registered and got banned. I've no intent on registering again especially since the moderators are in the habit of posting member's personal details.
I think the fact that you fail to even confirm if you have posted any condemnation of that post on OWC, failure to confirm what you said or failure to confirm what your username was says all that needs to be said about you.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 11:57:04 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How about responding to mine - what did you say about yon post on owc, did you even say anything and what have you to hide if you're worried about us knowing your username on there?
Why don't you have a look on the forum and see if you can guess who I am? Here's a clue - I'm not Sickboy ;)
I'm not a member so I can't.
What are you ashamed of?
You don't have to pay to be a member. All you have to do is register. Go ahead - you know it makes sense.
I was registered and got banned. I've no intent on registering again especially since the moderators are in the habit of posting member's personal details.
I think the fact that you fail to even confirm if you have posted any condemnation of that post on OWC, failure to confirm what you said or failure to confirm what your username was says all that needs to be said about you.
I got PM'd by a regular over on it and what he said wasnt nice and was disturbing it its detail. I will say no more but that was me finished on OWC.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 11:57:04 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How about responding to mine - what did you say about yon post on owc, did you even say anything and what have you to hide if you're worried about us knowing your username on there?
Why don't you have a look on the forum and see if you can guess who I am? Here's a clue - I'm not Sickboy ;)
I'm not a member so I can't.
What are you ashamed of?
You don't have to pay to be a member. All you have to do is register. Go ahead - you know it makes sense.
I was registered and got banned. I've no intent on registering again especially since the moderators are in the habit of posting member's personal details.
I think the fact that you fail to even confirm if you have posted any condemnation of that post on OWC, failure to confirm what you said or failure to confirm what your username was says all that needs to be said about you.
Did you use the same username when you registered on OWC? Most of those from this board who post on OWC use a different name when they do so - it's fairly common practice. And if I told you what I did or didn't post in response to the comments you've highlighted, then you'd soon know my username. There are two posters on this board who know my OWC username because I've told them in PMs. I choose not to tell you because I don't particularly like you. Suck it up big lad.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 31, 2010, 06:05:48 AM
What happens on OWC when they dont like what you post...Its like a child in the playground "Im taking my ball home, your not playing with it" They can't even put up a proper argument just stop you from posting, and let everyone else post and slate yours...What a bunch of kids.
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Right, there is too many trolls on posting and too many understandably biting.
Threads are becoming shouting matches.
Members are now restricted from posting until the trolls crawl back under their stones.
QUOTE (Hudda Jr @ Jul 30 2010, 11:05 PM) *
Still two hours till closing time
It's going to be a long night...........
I don't understand, what has he done? Stopped them posting?
Posted something they dont like. Just stopped me from posting.... I can see all the posts coming in slating what I said but can't reply!
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
Deluded again. The idea that the owc crowd we be out in force to ensure that we don't vote for a United Ireland is laughable--there are many more reasons why it won't happen soon, and a lot of them more pertinent than us taking away their soccer team.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
You my friend are deluded...As if the FAI taking a few players from the North is going to be the main reason reunification wont take place...Catch a grip delete your account and don't tell any of your mates who you really are on a discussion board...
Quote from: stibhan on July 31, 2010, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
Deluded again. The idea that the owc crowd we be out in force to ensure that we don't vote for a United Ireland is laughable--there are many more reasons why it won't happen soon, and a lot of them more pertinent than us taking away their soccer team.
Wree you watching me type that? LoL
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
How does this ruling or the FAI's stance equate to an attempt to get rid of the NI football team? They have their team, the FAI have their own, those who consider themselves Irish play for Ireland, those who consider themselves Northern Irish play for Northern Ireland. Perfectly fair and reasonable.
Quote from: stibhan on July 31, 2010, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
Deluded again. The idea that the owc crowd we be out in force to ensure that we don't vote for a United Ireland is laughable--there are many more reasons why it won't happen soon, and a lot of them more pertinent than us taking away their soccer team.
You'll have to reword that - I don't understand what you're saying.
'How does this ruling or the FAI's stance equate to an attempt to get rid of the NI football team? They have their team, the FAI have their own, those who consider themselves Irish play for Ireland, those who consider themselves Northern Irish play for Northern Ireland. Perfectly fair and reasonable.'
So you don't think that drastically cutting down the pool from which they select their players is going to harm the NI football team?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 02:35:56 PM
'How does this ruling or the FAI's stance equate to an attempt to get rid of the NI football team? They have their team, the FAI have their own, those who consider themselves Irish play for Ireland, those who consider themselves Northern Irish play for Northern Ireland. Perfectly fair and reasonable.'
So you don't think that drastically cutting down the pool from which they select their players is going to harm the NI football team?
Harm is a completely different concept to "take away".
And the pool of potential players which NI have to select from is still exactly the same.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 11:57:04 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
How about responding to mine - what did you say about yon post on owc, did you even say anything and what have you to hide if you're worried about us knowing your username on there?
Why don't you have a look on the forum and see if you can guess who I am? Here's a clue - I'm not Sickboy ;)
I'm not a member so I can't.
What are you ashamed of?
You don't have to pay to be a member. All you have to do is register. Go ahead - you know it makes sense.
I was registered and got banned. I've no intent on registering again especially since the moderators are in the habit of posting member's personal details.
I think the fact that you fail to even confirm if you have posted any condemnation of that post on OWC, failure to confirm what you said or failure to confirm what your username was says all that needs to be said about you.
Did you use the same username when you registered on OWC? Most of those from this board who post on OWC use a different name when they do so - it's fairly common practice. And if I told you what I did or didn't post in response to the comments you've highlighted, then you'd soon know my username. There are two posters on this board who know my OWC username because I've told them in PMs. I choose not to tell you because I don't particularly like you. Suck it up big lad.
I think I did use the same name, I can't remember it was years ago but everyone there knew I was pints from here.
I don't understand why you're hiding what your username is over there, what are you are ashamed of? You won't even confirm if you condemned the comments, told him to wise up or anything like it and I think it's safe to assume you didn't say anything!
Now, excuse me while I go and have a cry because you don't particularly like me :D
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
:D Maybe the IFA and it's supporters should take a look in the mirror, before blaming anyone else, and wonder why players don't want to play for them.
(http://static.flickr.com/51/187286032_2475974d8b_m.jpg)
And they wonder ::)
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
the irish gov dont have the right to 'warn off' the fai from picking people from the north. you cannot treat citizens differently and irish citizens in the north have to be treated the same as irish citizens in the south
Quote from: magickingdom on July 31, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
the irish gov dont have the right to 'warn off' the fai from picking people from the north. you cannot treat citizens differently and irish citizens in the north have to be treated the same as irish citizens in the south
Not only that, Fifa would not tolerate a national government interfering in the actions of their association. Whatever happened to sport and politics not mixing?
This decision would seriously worry me if I was an OWCer.
FIFA is an international organisation and hasn't defended Norn Iron's claim over its players. As it isn't a country it doesn't have the citizenship argument that real countries have. If FIFA doesn't defend any geographical claim they have on a player then I think they are on the slippery slope.
Spain's win exposed a lot of resentment of how 'Britain' can have 4 teams in the world cup and Basques (for example) are forced to play for Spain. Watch this space.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
Wouldnt that be depriving said players of their human rights, given that they have dual nationality?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 31, 2010, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
Deluded again. The idea that the owc crowd we be out in force to ensure that we don't vote for a United Ireland is laughable--there are many more reasons why it won't happen soon, and a lot of them more pertinent than us taking away their soccer team.
You'll have to reword that - I don't understand what you're saying.
Sorry, I should express myself in positive terms: I think that the OWC fans are mostly unionists who would against a United Ireland anyway, and don't think that they will have any undue influence on a future result. From what I've seen of the fans they mostly appear to be loyalist, so I'm not sure this particular scenario will have changed their minds. They have always used the term 'beggars', after all.
Quote from: stibhan on July 31, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 31, 2010, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
Deluded again. The idea that the owc crowd we be out in force to ensure that we don't vote for a United Ireland is laughable--there are many more reasons why it won't happen soon, and a lot of them more pertinent than us taking away their soccer team.
You'll have to reword that - I don't understand what you're saying.
Sorry, I should express myself in positive terms: I think that the OWC fans are mostly unionists who would against a United Ireland anyway, and don't think that they will have any undue influence on a future result. From what I've seen of the fans they mostly appear to be loyalist, so I'm not sure this particular scenario will have changed their minds. They have always used the term 'beggars', after all.
You may have missed it, but even the Shinners have signed up to the consent principle these days. If you think that you're going to get a united Ireland without the consent of at least a significant minority of northern protestants, then you're the one being delusional.
Quote from: deiseach on July 31, 2010, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on July 31, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
the irish gov dont have the right to 'warn off' the fai from picking people from the north. you cannot treat citizens differently and irish citizens in the north have to be treated the same as irish citizens in the south
Not only that, Fifa would not tolerate a national government interfering in the actions of their association. Whatever happened to sport and politics not mixing?
And yet John Delaney expressly thanked the Dept of Foreign Affairs for their assistance - is that not interference?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 31, 2010, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on July 31, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
the irish gov dont have the right to 'warn off' the fai from picking people from the north. you cannot treat citizens differently and irish citizens in the north have to be treated the same as irish citizens in the south
Not only that, Fifa would not tolerate a national government interfering in the actions of their association. Whatever happened to sport and politics not mixing?
And yet John Delaney expressly thanked the Dept of Foreign Affairs for their assistance - is that not interference?
He thanked them for their 'assistants'. They made the tae.
'I can't remember it was years ago' POG
;)
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 31, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 31, 2010, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
Deluded again. The idea that the owc crowd we be out in force to ensure that we don't vote for a United Ireland is laughable--there are many more reasons why it won't happen soon, and a lot of them more pertinent than us taking away their soccer team.
You'll have to reword that - I don't understand what you're saying.
Sorry, I should express myself in positive terms: I think that the OWC fans are mostly unionists who would against a United Ireland anyway, and don't think that they will have any undue influence on a future result. From what I've seen of the fans they mostly appear to be loyalist, so I'm not sure this particular scenario will have changed their minds. They have always used the term 'beggars', after all.
You may have missed it, but even the Shinners have signed up to the consent principle these days. If you think that you're going to get a united Ireland without the consent of at least a significant minority of northern protestants, then you're the one being delusional.
I'm not being delusional because I do not think the majority of any demographic in our population votes on the basis of how well their soccer team is doing. When Celtic refused to sign Steven Fletcher last year I wasn't going out of my way to vote unionist; when Steve Staunton was managing Ireland I didn't change my opinion on the constitution.
To be less churlish, the Northern football team is an obstacle to rather than a catalyst for partition. I, and they, think this at least spells danger for them unless
they get their act together in terms of equality and responsibility. Football For All is commendable but means nothing when you make nationalists play for the Union Jack and GSTQ.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 06:54:07 PM
'I can't remember it was years ago' POG
;)
No silly icon is going to distract from the fact that you're afraid to tell us who you are on owc or even that you condemned the stupid remarks made - in fact, I don't believe you even condemned them here.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 31, 2010, 04:33:29 PM
Not only that, Fifa would not tolerate a national government interfering in the actions of their association. Whatever happened to sport and politics not mixing?
And yet John Delaney expressly thanked the Dept of Foreign Affairs for their assistance - is that not interference?
No. By that logic, a goverment helping a World Cup bid would be the same thing as forbidding a national association from making the bid. And besides, it's always been an article of faith on OWC that sport and politics don't mix. Until it suits.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 06:50:36 PM
And yet John Delaney expressly thanked the Dept of Foreign Affairs for their assistance - is that not interference?
Interference (at least in FIFA terms) is not aiding at national association. If it was every major competition (World Cups etc..) would be cancelled due to the aid national governments give bids.
Inteference is seen by FIFA that governments coerce national associations. For example the fine on Togu for withdrawing from African Nations Cup on instructions from their government.
In essence, the fined party in interference cases is oft not the guilty one.
In the case of the West Ham cast off there are two possibilities:
1) He "declared" for Ireland and the FAI were faced with saying yes please or not thanks
2) He was "tapped up" as a Northern Ireland Catholic
I won't comment here as the seems to be an unkown but if it was the former, hard to see how the FAI would act otherwise. (Unless the infamous gentleman's agreement exist, although in fairness this is the FAI..........)
With regard to the CAS and preceeding FIFA ruling, the IFA forced the issue in both cases, not the FAI. So bad and all as Delaney et al. are, they can hardly be accountable for the boardroom decisions north of the border.
The salient point here is that IFA have (shortsightedly) continued to push for implementation of FIFA rules when in fact said rules are the very problem they have.
Not really the FAI fault at all.
/Jim.
from belfast newsletter
"Ulster Unionist MLA David McNarry last night called on the IFA to "fight tooth and nail" yesterday's judgment .
"The IFA should use the European Courts, appeal to Westminster, make these young players sign a document that they will stick by the IFA that is pouring money and resources into their development – maybe even renegotiate the Belfast Agreement that created this farce," said Mr McNarry."
Sinn Fein chairman of the DCAL committee Barry McElduff said: "It will come as no surprise that the CAS has thrown out this case.
"It was a blatant attempt to deny Irish citizens in the six counties their full rights as Irish passport holders and was doomed to failure from the start."
SDLP MLA Thomas Burns said: "We have consistently argued that footballers should have the right to choose which team to play for, whether that is Northern Ireland or the Republic. It is only right that any footballer is given the freedom to make up their own mind on which country they wish to represent."
But former Belfast lord mayor Jim Rodgers (UUP) – a member of the Glentoran board and of Sport NI – said: "If someone doesn't want to play for you, there isn't much you can do about it. But these young people accept the investment that's poured into their careers at an early stage and should stay with the sporting bodies who helped develop them with time and money.""
apeal to westminister!! does he still think they make the rules? what planet is mcnarry living on.
Quote from: magickingdom on July 31, 2010, 09:12:45 PM
from belfast newsletter
"Ulster Unionist MLA David McNarry last night called on the IFA to "fight tooth and nail" yesterday's judgment .
"The IFA should use the European Courts, appeal to Westminster, make these young players sign a document that they will stick by the IFA that is pouring money and resources into their development – maybe even renegotiate the Belfast Agreement that created this farce," said Mr McNarry."
Sinn Fein chairman of the DCAL committee Barry McElduff said: "It will come as no surprise that the CAS has thrown out this case.
"It was a blatant attempt to deny Irish citizens in the six counties their full rights as Irish passport holders and was doomed to failure from the start."
SDLP MLA Thomas Burns said: "We have consistently argued that footballers should have the right to choose which team to play for, whether that is Northern Ireland or the Republic. It is only right that any footballer is given the freedom to make up their own mind on which country they wish to represent."
But former Belfast lord mayor Jim Rodgers (UUP) – a member of the Glentoran board and of Sport NI – said: "If someone doesn't want to play for you, there isn't much you can do about it. But these young people accept the investment that's poured into their careers at an early stage and should stay with the sporting bodies who helped develop them with time and money.""
apeal to westminister!! does he still think they make the rules? what planet is mcnarry living on.
These are the same clowns who took umbrage when governments in Ireland and Britain objected to the rugby tours to apartheid South Africa. How dare politicians interfere! Charming to the last.
Quote from: deiseach on July 31, 2010, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on July 31, 2010, 09:12:45 PM
from belfast newsletter
"Ulster Unionist MLA David McNarry last night called on the IFA to "fight tooth and nail" yesterday's judgment .
"The IFA should use the European Courts, appeal to Westminster, make these young players sign a document that they will stick by the IFA that is pouring money and resources into their development – maybe even renegotiate the Belfast Agreement that created this farce," said Mr McNarry."
Sinn Fein chairman of the DCAL committee Barry McElduff said: "It will come as no surprise that the CAS has thrown out this case.
"It was a blatant attempt to deny Irish citizens in the six counties their full rights as Irish passport holders and was doomed to failure from the start."
SDLP MLA Thomas Burns said: "We have consistently argued that footballers should have the right to choose which team to play for, whether that is Northern Ireland or the Republic. It is only right that any footballer is given the freedom to make up their own mind on which country they wish to represent."
But former Belfast lord mayor Jim Rodgers (UUP) – a member of the Glentoran board and of Sport NI – said: "If someone doesn't want to play for you, there isn't much you can do about it. But these young people accept the investment that's poured into their careers at an early stage and should stay with the sporting bodies who helped develop them with time and money.""
apeal to westminister!! does he still think they make the rules? what planet is mcnarry living on.
These are the same clowns who took umbrage when governments in Ireland and Britain objected to the rugby tours to apartheid South Africa. How dare politicians interfere! Charming to the last.
Heard him on the radio on Friday saying that young footballers should have to make up their minds at 11 or 12 which side they want to play for. ::)
All of this bollocks about how they should consider 'the time and money spent' for their development fails to understand that the North's team has had players in it from a different association as well: i.e. Germany, England and even South Africa. They tried to get a player from Scotland a few years back, ffs.
Gibson played for Manchester United for years. The amount of money invested in him by the North would probably come out of his week's wages.
Quote from: magickingdom on July 31, 2010, 09:12:45 PM
apeal to westminister!! does he still think they make the rules? what planet is mcnarry living on.
Well the penny doesn't seemed to have dropped that FIFA make the rules, so why not Westminister?
In the fervour to tar the FAI and republic as kuntz, it seems forgotten that FIFA and now CAS are of a same mind as the FAI. As the woman once said, everyone's marching out of turn but my Johnny.
I thought the IFA had a case until I read the GFA. Citizenship is well defined there so they haven't a leg to stand on unless they get the rules changed. However they only seem to want to keep clarifying the existing rules.
/Jim.
You now get banned for saying the north!!! you couldnt make this up!!!!!
QUOTE (buckie @ Jul 31 2010, 12:18 AM)
Can you ban posters who use 'the north' or 'north of ireland' to decribe us?
QUOTE (Marty @ Jul 31 2010, 12:19 AM)
Yes.
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 31, 2010, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
How does this ruling or the FAI's stance equate to an attempt to get rid of the NI football team? They have their team, the FAI have their own, those who consider themselves Irish play for Ireland, those who consider themselves Northern Irish play for Northern Ireland. Perfectly fair and reasonable.
A nation divided neatly along sectarian / ethnic lines. There's progress for ya!
and trying to force lads to play for a team they feel no affiliation to is better?
Rather than crying and threatening to wreck stadiums I think the IFA and their supporters should have a think about why these lads don't want to play for them and see how they can fix that.
You got to love the unionists when things don't go their way :D
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 01, 2010, 11:56:28 AM
A nation divided neatly along sectarian / ethnic lines. There's progress for ya!
A nation where all its citizens have the right to express their national identity and have their views respected is progress indeed.
They're a genuinely horrible bunch (not just the clowns on the forum)
I work with loads of boys who follow OWC not going to get into specifics but there's just so much hatred.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 01, 2010, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 31, 2010, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
How does this ruling or the FAI's stance equate to an attempt to get rid of the NI football team? They have their team, the FAI have their own, those who consider themselves Irish play for Ireland, those who consider themselves Northern Irish play for Northern Ireland. Perfectly fair and reasonable.
A nation divided neatly along sectarian / ethnic lines. There's progress for ya!
A team which still uses an outdated national anthem and an abolished flag has no business preaching on any 'progress', or lack thereof. The only progress being made by the IFA is uprooting the thugs which were the basis of their support for years--a process which hasn't been necessary for the FAI team's fans, save the heinous crime of booing Shota Arveladze.
What a threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Norn Iron soccer fans would not have the guts to try and cause chaos in the Aviva or any stadium except their own dingy shithole in Windsor Park as they would not know any better thinking Stormont would bail them out. Combat 18 they are not. They are not so big when they don't have the RUC around them or loyalist housing estates. Nah, when there is a few hundred of them surrounded by 'beggars', the Guards and with a surrounding area not loyal to them they will shit their underpants once they are getting their heads cracked open by a few night sticks from the guards or worse if a load of southern supporters got to them. And what a wonderful scene for the TV cameras around the world it would be of the IFA who would then be kicked out of Euro and World Cup tournaments. The only thing their fans would then start to mope even more about is when Cameron and Clegg tells Buff Sammy that they won't be 'sponging' off the English any more.
All mouth and no balls the lot of them. If they really did have any, the Poles would have thrown it right back at them.
Not that much into soccer, but from reading this thread, I understand that the IFA are the lads in the north and the FAI are the lads in the south. Now if I've got this right so far, would I be correct that IFA stand for "Irish football association?" If so ,should FIFA not demand that all eligible members of the IFA; players and officials, have / hold proof of their Irishness eg a passport
Quote from: ardal on August 01, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
Not that much into soccer, but from reading this thread, I understand that the IFA are the lads in the north and the FAI are the lads in the south. Now if I've got this right so far, would I be correct that IFA stand for "Irish football association?" If so ,should FIFA not demand that all eligible members of the IFA; players and officials, have / hold proof of their Irishness eg a passport
1.Your post implies that there's only one brand of Irish on the island.
2. How would you have members of the Scottish and Welsh Associations prove their Scottishness and Welshness?
::)
Ask the scots for a fiver, and show the welsh a sheep.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 02, 2010, 06:15:20 AM
Quote from: ardal on August 01, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
Not that much into soccer, but from reading this thread, I understand that the IFA are the lads in the north and the FAI are the lads in the south. Now if I've got this right so far, would I be correct that IFA stand for "Irish football association?" If so ,should FIFA not demand that all eligible members of the IFA; players and officials, have / hold proof of their Irishness eg a passport
1.Your post implies that there's only one brand of Irish on the island.
2. How would you have members of the Scottish and Welsh Associations prove their Scottishness and Welshness?
::)
How many brands of Irish are there on the island ?
QuoteAsk the scots for a fiver, and show the welsh a sheep.
:D An absolute cracker!
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2010, 12:04:25 PM
and trying to force lads to play for a team they feel no affiliation to is better?
Rather than crying and threatening to wreck stadiums I think the IFA and their supporters should have a think about why these lads don't want to play for them and see how they can fix that.
You got to love the unionists when things don't go their way :D
This is the main point. Rather than look at why people born in their "country" do not want to play for that team and looking to maybe address that they decide that we'll just threaten them ums. Do they really have that little foresight. This whole row will only make things worse for them by alienating more nationlists who may have considered playing for NI.
Quote from: maddog on August 02, 2010, 10:36:51 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 02, 2010, 06:15:20 AM
Quote from: ardal on August 01, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
Not that much into soccer, but from reading this thread, I understand that the IFA are the lads in the north and the FAI are the lads in the south. Now if I've got this right so far, would I be correct that IFA stand for "Irish football association?" If so ,should FIFA not demand that all eligible members of the IFA; players and officials, have / hold proof of their Irishness eg a passport
1.Your post implies that there's only one brand of Irish on the island.
2. How would you have members of the Scottish and Welsh Associations prove their Scottishness and Welshness?
::)
How many brands of Irish are there on the island ?
Two main ones - native Irish and Irish of planter stock.
What about black Irish?
Quote from: maddog on August 02, 2010, 10:36:51 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 02, 2010, 06:15:20 AM
Quote from: ardal on August 01, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
Not that much into soccer, but from reading this thread, I understand that the IFA are the lads in the north and the FAI are the lads in the south. Now if I've got this right so far, would I be correct that IFA stand for "Irish football association?" If so ,should FIFA not demand that all eligible members of the IFA; players and officials, have / hold proof of their Irishness eg a passport
1.Your post implies that there's only one brand of Irish on the island.
2. How would you have members of the Scottish and Welsh Associations prove their Scottishness and Welshness?
::)
How many brands of Irish are there on the island ?
Let's see ...
Jameson,
Paddy
Bushmills,
Powers ...
I pity the poor alienated nationalist
Who wishes he would've stayed home.
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/pju/lowres/pjun1033l.jpg)
The hatred, or as Myles terms it "emotion", being spouted by NI fans certainly isn't going to encourage nationalists to turn out for Our Wee Country.
Quote from: Rav67 on August 02, 2010, 05:54:15 PM
The hatred, or as Myles terms it "emotion", being spouted by NI fans certainly isn't going to encourage nationalists to turn out for Our Wee Country.
Nor would death threats if you were the captain and had just signed for Celtic ... the scum responsible for that must have been very "emotional" indeed
The OWC lads could have had a brand spanking new stadium just like the Aviva, but they didn't want it for two main reasons.
1. Didn't want to share it with kefflicks.
2. 'How am I going to get to Lisburn an back? It's bloody miles away'
Now all they have is their shitty wee hovel, which suits their needs anyway.
They won't wreck the Aviva, they're all just full of shit.
Quote1. Didn't want to share it with kefflicks.
Absolute nonsense
Quote from: Hardy on August 02, 2010, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: maddog on August 02, 2010, 10:36:51 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 02, 2010, 06:15:20 AM
Quote from: ardal on August 01, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
Not that much into soccer, but from reading this thread, I understand that the IFA are the lads in the north and the FAI are the lads in the south. Now if I've got this right so far, would I be correct that IFA stand for "Irish football association?" If so ,should FIFA not demand that all eligible members of the IFA; players and officials, have / hold proof of their Irishness eg a passport
1.Your post implies that there's only one brand of Irish on the island.
2. How would you have members of the Scottish and Welsh Associations prove their Scottishness and Welshness?
::)
How many brands of Irish are there on the island ?
Let's see ...
Jameson,
Paddy
Bushmills,
Powers ...
Stay out of this Hardy, lol.
Quote from: nifan on August 02, 2010, 10:16:21 PM
Quote1. Didn't want to share it with kefflicks.
Absolute nonsense
They certainly didn't want to share it with the GAA, which it has to be said must have been unpalatable for at least a small section of their support on account of the religion which 'pervades' in that organisation. I think the original post was tongue-in-cheek, though.
Quote from: 45 metres on August 01, 2010, 09:33:02 PM
What a threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Norn Iron soccer fans would not have the guts to try and cause chaos in the Aviva or any stadium except their own dingy shithole in Windsor Park as they would not know any better thinking Stormont would bail them out. Combat 18 they are not. They are not so big when they don't have the RUC around them or loyalist housing estates. Nah, when there is a few hundred of them surrounded by 'beggars', the Guards and with a surrounding area not loyal to them they will shit their underpants once they are getting their heads cracked open by a few night sticks from the guards or worse if a load of southern supporters got to them. And what a wonderful scene for the TV cameras around the world it would be of the IFA who would then be kicked out of Euro and World Cup tournaments. The only thing their fans would then start to mope even more about is when Cameron and Clegg tells Buff Sammy that they won't be 'sponging' off the English any more.
All mouth and no balls the lot of them. If they really did have any, the Poles would have thrown it right back at them.
Foaming-at-the-mouth prejudiced tossers aren't limited to one website then eh.
A pox on such mindsets, I say.
Quote from: ardal on August 01, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
Not that much into soccer, but from reading this thread, I understand that the IFA are the lads in the north and the FAI are the lads in the south. Now if I've got this right so far, would I be correct that IFA stand for "Irish football association?" If so ,should FIFA not demand that all eligible members of the IFA; players and officials, have / hold proof of their Irishness eg a passport
Irishness = citizenship of the Republic of Ireland?
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 12:06:25 AM
Quote from: 45 metres on August 01, 2010, 09:33:02 PM
What a threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Norn Iron soccer fans would not have the guts to try and cause chaos in the Aviva or any stadium except their own dingy shithole in Windsor Park as they would not know any better thinking Stormont would bail them out. Combat 18 they are not. They are not so big when they don't have the RUC around them or loyalist housing estates. Nah, when there is a few hundred of them surrounded by 'beggars', the Guards and with a surrounding area not loyal to them they will shit their underpants once they are getting their heads cracked open by a few night sticks from the guards or worse if a load of southern supporters got to them. And what a wonderful scene for the TV cameras around the world it would be of the IFA who would then be kicked out of Euro and World Cup tournaments. The only thing their fans would then start to mope even more about is when Cameron and Clegg tells Buff Sammy that they won't be 'sponging' off the English any more.
All mouth and no balls the lot of them. If they really did have any, the Poles would have thrown it right back at them.
Foaming-at-the-mouth prejudiced t**sers aren't limited to one website then eh.
A pox on such mindsets, I say.
Admirable sentiments. Then again, it appears that people registering for a sports discussion board with no desire to discuss that sport are indeed limited to our 'visitors' from ourweepartition.
Quote from: stibhan on August 03, 2010, 12:52:05 AM
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 12:06:25 AM
Quote from: 45 metres on August 01, 2010, 09:33:02 PM
What a threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Norn Iron soccer fans would not have the guts to try and cause chaos in the Aviva or any stadium except their own dingy shithole in Windsor Park as they would not know any better thinking Stormont would bail them out. Combat 18 they are not. They are not so big when they don't have the RUC around them or loyalist housing estates. Nah, when there is a few hundred of them surrounded by 'beggars', the Guards and with a surrounding area not loyal to them they will shit their underpants once they are getting their heads cracked open by a few night sticks from the guards or worse if a load of southern supporters got to them. And what a wonderful scene for the TV cameras around the world it would be of the IFA who would then be kicked out of Euro and World Cup tournaments. The only thing their fans would then start to mope even more about is when Cameron and Clegg tells Buff Sammy that they won't be 'sponging' off the English any more.
All mouth and no balls the lot of them. If they really did have any, the Poles would have thrown it right back at them.
Foaming-at-the-mouth prejudiced t**sers aren't limited to one website then eh.
A pox on such mindsets, I say.
Admirable sentiments. Then again, it appears that people registering for a sports discussion board with no desire to discuss that sport are indeed limited to our 'visitors' from ourweepartition.
Doubt it.
I'm not on OWC, by thewAY :)
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 09:15:13 PM
Quote from: stibhan on August 03, 2010, 12:52:05 AM
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 12:06:25 AM
Quote from: 45 metres on August 01, 2010, 09:33:02 PM
What a threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Norn Iron soccer fans would not have the guts to try and cause chaos in the Aviva or any stadium except their own dingy shithole in Windsor Park as they would not know any better thinking Stormont would bail them out. Combat 18 they are not. They are not so big when they don't have the RUC around them or loyalist housing estates. Nah, when there is a few hundred of them surrounded by 'beggars', the Guards and with a surrounding area not loyal to them they will shit their underpants once they are getting their heads cracked open by a few night sticks from the guards or worse if a load of southern supporters got to them. And what a wonderful scene for the TV cameras around the world it would be of the IFA who would then be kicked out of Euro and World Cup tournaments. The only thing their fans would then start to mope even more about is when Cameron and Clegg tells Buff Sammy that they won't be 'sponging' off the English any more.
All mouth and no balls the lot of them. If they really did have any, the Poles would have thrown it right back at them.
Foaming-at-the-mouth prejudiced t**sers aren't limited to one website then eh.
A pox on such mindsets, I say.
Admirable sentiments. Then again, it appears that people registering for a sports discussion board with no desire to discuss that sport are indeed limited to our 'visitors' from ourweepartition.
Doubt it.
I'm not on OWC, by thewAY :)
I was referring to our friend Myles. Even Tony Fearon, our chief export (unlike the Danes with Carlsberg, we love to see him leave), is a proponent of soccer rather than Peile.
'I was referring to our friend Myles.'
Knew you liked me really. :)
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 03, 2010, 10:24:17 PM
'I was referring to our friend Myles.'
Knew you liked me really. :)
good response :-\
maybe we should get a few logins for our wee country and discuss the great result by Down on sat.
After all Down is in our wee country. They would go mental.
Personally i couldn give a feck what they talk about doing to the dung bowl in ballsbridge. never seen such a stupid looking thing, what is up with the old north terrace
The decision by CAS is unlikely to affect my lack of support for the free state / FAI soccer team.
Folk need to distinguish between real nationality and footballing 'nationality'.
Soccer mercenaries will do what is best for their careers. Had CAS agreed with the IFA, any eligible player born in Jerome's north would still have made themselves available for the IFA team; there would have been no conscientious objectors.
I am also of the opinion that elements of the IFA and great swathes of their supporters are secretly delighted with the outcome - a protestant team for a protestant people.
A few points having scan read the thread.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
But you do get away with rampant racism. The Irish travelling community are a recognised ethnic group, hence the use of terms such as 'beggar', 'tarmacker' etc. are racist. Simple. Yet not only are these terms tolerated by moderators, they are used by them.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:51:26 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 30, 2010, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 30, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Big Rab is probably some blue wkd addled spide from a loyalist cesspit so his comments are probably best ignored. Despite the terms and conditions of that site forbidding offensive comment you could bet your life he won't get a ban as everyone knows that site is administered by tramps.
OWC have a serious inferiority complex, and how could they not, playing that rat infested shithole in South Belfast.
The funny part is that these boys are cowards and know they'd get
The same medicine the English got when they started their nonsense in Lansdowne.
The site is better moderated than this one by quite a distance. You wouldn't away with the personal abuse, threats and invitations to have a fight that go on here. Not for a second.
But you can post anything you want about the "beggars" or be banned for disagreeing with their view....explain please
I don't like the term 'beggars' and I've said so on the OWC site. Up until 5 minutes ago I haven't been banned yet. I disagree with people on there quite frequently and many disagree with some of my posts. So long as you do so within the rules - i.e no personal abuse, no trolling - nobody gets too steamed up about it. There are one or two from the GAA Board who post on OWC and while they take a bit of flak, they argue their corner and haven't been banned. Sometimes it's not what you say, but how and when you say it.
That's that sorted then. How do you feel with other racist terms? Nigger, Coon, Paki, Wog, Gravedigger etc. Says a lot about you and those who post on owc.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 01, 2010, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 31, 2010, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on July 31, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
What do you think about the ruling itself Myles? Personally I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone would not understand that northern nationalists woulld rather play for the republic. If you have a history of abusing catholic players, surely its the least you'd expect??
The ruling is correct and I understand why the FAI have gone down the road of playing northerners. However, I think the Irish government should have stepped in long ago and warned them off. This issue goes beyond football. If Irish nationalists are serious about unity, then they have to start thinking about persuading northern unionists that their interests will be safe guarded in any all Ireland state. How are we going to do that by taking from them something they prize dearly, namely their football team? You only have to read a few threads on OWC to get a sense of how much bitterness this decision has caused. This was a golden opportunity for the Irish government to be statesman-like and to set aside short term sporting gain in order to gain the trust and respect of the unionist community up here. Unfortunately, it seems that the Dept of Foreign Affairs chose to throw its weight behind the FAI rather than reining it back. So 'we've' won and 'themmuns' have lost and in the process, reunification has been pushed back another couple of decades.
How does this ruling or the FAI's stance equate to an attempt to get rid of the NI football team? They have their team, the FAI have their own, those who consider themselves Irish play for Ireland, those who consider themselves Northern Irish play for Northern Ireland. Perfectly fair and reasonable.
A nation divided neatly along sectarian / ethnic lines. There's progress for ya!
That's exactly what you are suggesting in the bit of your post TAM highlighted.
Pints posted as pintofguinness on owc IIRC. Obviously turned him to even more drink.
Here's one for big Roger before I finish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk)
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:04:55 PM
I am also of the opinion that elements of the IFA and great swathes of their supporters are secretly delighted with the outcome - a protestant team for a protestant people.
In all the controversy over the last couple of years I haven't spoken to a single NI fan who's thought that. I've encountered two broad reactions - anger and opposition; or a more resigned "this is the situation we're in, let's get on with it and not worry any more about players who have turned their backs on us".
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:11:53 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:04:55 PM
I am also of the opinion that elements of the IFA and great swathes of their supporters are secretly delighted with the outcome - a protestant team for a protestant people.
In all the controversy over the last couple of years I haven't spoken to a single NI fan who's thought that. I've encountered two broad reactions - anger and opposition; or a more resigned "this is the situation we're in, let's get on with it and not worry any more about players who have turned their backs on us".
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone. Secondly, given that the de facto voice of the NI support, Woodvale loyalist Gary McAllister doesn't want any new Catholic neighbours, it is hard to see how he would want any polluting his team.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.
Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?
I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)
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Secondly, given that the de facto voice of the NI support, Woodvale loyalist Gary McAllister doesn't want any new Catholic neighbours, it is hard to see how he would want any polluting his team.
All I can do is report my own experience of the reaction among NI fans.
The decision won't make the NI team all-Protestant anyway.
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.
Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?
I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)
Raymondo is no great orator, but surely it is in the gift of the rest of the IFA hierarchy to find someone who is.
When the IFA initially went to FIFA it was to ask them to implement their rules. Had the IFA been really serious their approach should not have been the nuclear one. It should have been to identify why players were opting to play for the FAI team and how they could have been persuaded not to.
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
The decision won't make the NI team all-Protestant anyway.
No, it won't. The crappy Fenians will still 'declare' for NI.
I still believe you should play for the geographical entity you were born in; the 'playing for their country' shite Delaney has been coming out with is particularly sickening. Will I go to hell?
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.
Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?
I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)
The IFA appeal to CAS to request FIFA to implement FIFA rules (as they the IFA could only interpret them) was an example of supreme folly and intellectual feebleness. That you don't see this, even after all my painfully pedantic perfectionist explanation of the statutes of eligibility to you ::)
You shoulda stayed away :)
'How do you feel with other racist terms? Nigger, Coon, Paki, Wog, Gravedigger etc. Says a lot about you and those who post on owc.'
I've been on that site 2 years now and I haven't come across any of those terms. Could you post a link or tell me where I could find them?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 04, 2010, 07:14:37 PM
'How do you feel with other racist terms? Nigger, Coon, Paki, Wog, Gravedigger etc. Says a lot about you and those who post on owc.'
I've been on that site 2 years now and I haven't come across any of those terms. Could you post a link or tell me where I could find them?
Read his post again. SS2 quite clearly referred to the repeated use of one offensive term, which you seem happy to acquiesce in.
Quote from: Rav67 on August 04, 2010, 08:34:18 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 04, 2010, 07:14:37 PM
'How do you feel with other racist terms? Nigger, Coon, Paki, Wog, Gravedigger etc. Says a lot about you and those who post on owc.'
I've been on that site 2 years now and I haven't come across any of those terms. Could you post a link or tell me where I could find them?
Read his post again. SS2 quite clearly referred to the repeated use of one offensive term, which you seem happy to acquiesce in.
Really? Here's a copy of a post I made on OWC in response to another poster's claim that the term 'beggar' was used because the RoI's habit of 'begging' for players:
'That's the official version, but there's a more pernicious sub text. 'Gypos' is one of the terms of sectarian / racist abuse used in our society. Anyone who ever attended a Cliftonville - Linfield match in the '80s or '90s (maybe it still is - I don't go these days) will be aware that it is used by loyalist bigots to taunt their Catholic rivals (who have a wide selection of their own sectarian / racist terms with which to respond, but we'll save that for another thread). I've also heard the term 'gypo' used on one occasion at Ravenhill when Munster were visiting. The term can't be used openly these days without leaving oneself open to the accusation of being an out and out neanderthal, but there are words and references which achieve the same objective in a more subtle way. One way is to refer to occupations traditionally associated with gypsies or travellers. See, for example, the number of references to 'tarmacers' that appear fairly frequently on this board. Sickboy made a reference to the southerners 'ruining his driveway' on this thread earlier which is another example of the genre. Gypsies were often seen on the streets of Dublin, either selling small items of jewellery, or simply with their hand out looking for money. Gypsies became synonymous with begging, and since gypsies usually had southern brogues, it was an easy leap for people looking for a barb to hurl to label southerners as beggars. The line about the FAI begging for players (why not call them the poachers, in that case?) was only dredged up to cover what is a fairly obvious sectarian / racist slur.'
Now, can you direct me to the post on this board in which you (or anyone else, for that matter) has queried the use of the term 'huns' to describe the Rangers team and its supporters?
Quote from: Main Street on August 04, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.
Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?
I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)
The IFA appeal to CAS to request FIFA to implement FIFA rules (as they the IFA could only interpret them) was an example of supreme folly and intellectual feebleness. That you don't see this, even after all my painfully pedantic perfectionist explanation of the statutes of eligibility to you ::)
You shoulda stayed away :)
Main Street, old son, your powers of comprehension are seriously failing you tonight.
SS2 wasn't referring to the IFA challenge as feeble as in "intellectual feebleness" - he meant it wasn't pursued with particular vigour. It might have beem ill-concieved but it didn't lack effort, however wrongly-directed.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:44:24 PM
Raymondo is no great orator, but surely it is in the gift of the rest of the IFA hierarchy to find someone who is.
Possibly, but it might be a bit like looking around the Vatican for someone to do your son's bar mitzvah.
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When the IFA initially went to FIFA it was to ask them to implement their rules. Had the IFA been really serious their approach should not have been the nuclear one. It should have been to identify why players were opting to play for the FAI team and how they could have been persuaded not to.
They may have done that. They certainly tried to persuade Darron Gibson to come back and managed to persuade Tony Kane (both had been pissed off by an underage coach). Probably could do more though.
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Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
The decision won't make the NI team all-Protestant anyway.
No, it won't. The crappy Fenians will still 'declare' for NI.
I still believe you should play for the geographical entity you were born in; the 'playing for their country' shite Delaney has been coming out with is particularly sickening. Will I go to hell?
Possibly, you're a heretic ;D
The "playing for their country" stuff feels to me like an attempt to achemise an all-Ireland team (and polity?).
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 10:43:43 PM
Quote from: gerry on July 30, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
Must say, the IRFU and FAI have in their own arrogant deceitful ways done more to turn me off the idea of a united Ireland than the IRA ever did.
That is the single worst post I've ever read.
A bit of a crazy sentiment IMO, but there is actually a kernel in there I can relate to.
The IRFU's actions and attitude in in last few years have shown me that all-Ireland teams can't exist on a balanced basis in mass-spectator sports.
And actually the southern nationalist chauvinism evident in both international rugby union and rugby league, in a situation where there are actually two very clear geopolitical entities on this island, seperated by an international border, does make me wonder how Northern Irish and British identities would manage to be respected if there were an all-Ireland state.
For me, "IRFU" is a four-letter word...
What heinous crimes have the IRFU and FAI committed (incompetence doesn't count).
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 02, 2010, 05:22:44 PM
Quote from: maddog on August 02, 2010, 10:36:51 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 02, 2010, 06:15:20 AM
Quote from: ardal on August 01, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
Not that much into soccer, but from reading this thread, I understand that the IFA are the lads in the north and the FAI are the lads in the south. Now if I've got this right so far, would I be correct that IFA stand for "Irish football association?" If so ,should FIFA not demand that all eligible members of the IFA; players and officials, have / hold proof of their Irishness eg a passport
1.Your post implies that there's only one brand of Irish on the island.
2. How would you have members of the Scottish and Welsh Associations prove their Scottishness and Welshness?
::)
How many brands of Irish are there on the island ?
Two main ones - native Irish and Irish of planter stock.
Posting that sorta shite will get you banned of OWC - are 'Pradestants' born in NI not natives????? Big faux pas
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
What heinous crimes have the IRFU and FAI committed (incompetence doesn't count).
I'm talking specifically about the IRFU and their notion of equal recognition and representation of the RoI and NI.
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
What heinous crimes have the IRFU and FAI committed (incompetence doesn't count).
I'm talking specifically about the IRFU and their notion of equal recognition and representation of the RoI and NI.
Could you explain that a bit more please?
Do they have a policy that they are not adhering to?
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 10:58:11 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 10:43:43 PM
Quote from: gerry on July 30, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
Must say, the IRFU and FAI have in their own arrogant deceitful ways done more to turn me off the idea of a united Ireland than the IRA ever did.
That is the single worst post I've ever read.
A bit of a crazy sentiment IMO, but there is actually a kernel in there I can relate to.
The IRFU's actions and attitude in in last few years have shown me that all-Ireland teams can't exist on a balanced basis in mass-spectator sports.
And actually the southern nationalist chauvinism evident in both international rugby union and rugby league, in a situation where there are actually two very clear geopolitical entities on this island, seperated by an international border, does make me wonder how Northern Irish and British identities would manage to be respected if there were an all-Ireland state.
For me, "IRFU" is a four-letter word...
I understand and accept complaints about the IRFU and its supporters, and I understand northern Protestant/Unionist resentment towards the FAI in this instance--even if that resentment is founded upon political rather than any putative moral causes. I do not understand comparing them with the IRA.
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
What heinous crimes have the IRFU and FAI committed (incompetence doesn't count).
I'm talking specifically about the IRFU and their notion of equal recognition and representation of the RoI and NI.
Could you explain that a bit more please?
Do they have a policy that they are not adhering to?
No, it's the policy they are adhering to that I have an issue with.
(Sadly rugby league, which was exemplary from what I could see, decided to go down the southern-chauvinist route too recently)
Quote from: stibhan on August 04, 2010, 11:18:24 PM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 10:58:11 PM
Quote from: stibhan on July 30, 2010, 10:43:43 PM
Quote from: gerry on July 30, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
Must say, the IRFU and FAI have in their own arrogant deceitful ways done more to turn me off the idea of a united Ireland than the IRA ever did.
That is the single worst post I've ever read.
A bit of a crazy sentiment IMO, but there is actually a kernel in there I can relate to.
The IRFU's actions and attitude in in last few years have shown me that all-Ireland teams can't exist on a balanced basis in mass-spectator sports.
And actually the southern nationalist chauvinism evident in both international rugby union and rugby league, in a situation where there are actually two very clear geopolitical entities on this island, seperated by an international border, does make me wonder how Northern Irish and British identities would manage to be respected if there were an all-Ireland state.
For me, "IRFU" is a four-letter word...
I understand and accept complaints about the IRFU and its supporters, and I understand northern Protestant/Unionist resentment towards the FAI in this instance--even if that resentment is founded upon political rather than any putative moral causes. I do not understand comparing them with the IRA.
Yeah that bit's just crazy. A sporting organistion's policy on flags, eligibility and whatnot can't in any way be equated with a mass murder campaign.
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:19:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
What heinous crimes have the IRFU and FAI committed (incompetence doesn't count).
I'm talking specifically about the IRFU and their notion of equal recognition and representation of the RoI and NI.
Could you explain that a bit more please?
Do they have a policy that they are not adhering to?
No, it's the policy they are adhering to that I have an issue with.
(Sadly rugby league, which was exemplary from what I could see, decided to go down the southern-chauvinist route too recently)
What is this 'southern chauvinist route'?
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:19:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
What heinous crimes have the IRFU and FAI committed (incompetence doesn't count).
I'm talking specifically about the IRFU and their notion of equal recognition and representation of the RoI and NI.
Could you explain that a bit more please?
Do they have a policy that they are not adhering to?
No, it's the policy they are adhering to that I have an issue with.
(Sadly rugby league, which was exemplary from what I could see, decided to go down the southern-chauvinist route too recently)
What is this 'southern chauvinist route'?
After an exemplary past using Ireland's Call (and a four-provinces type flag), they decided to jack it all in for the 2008 World Cup and use Amhran na bhFiann instead.
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 04, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.
Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?
I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)
The IFA appeal to CAS to request FIFA to implement FIFA rules (as they the IFA could only interpret them) was an example of supreme folly and intellectual feebleness. That you don't see this, even after all my painfully pedantic perfectionist explanation of the statutes of eligibility to you ::)
You shoulda stayed away :)
Main Street, old son, your powers of comprehension are seriously failing you tonight.
SS2 wasn't referring to the IFA challenge as feeble as in "intellectual feebleness" - he meant it wasn't pursued with particular vigour. It might have beem ill-concieved but it didn't lack effort, however wrongly-directed.
I have not got your powers of, shall we say, creative comprehension, nor your certainty that your own interpretation is the one true interpretation ::) , which you retain despite your previous form, struggling very badly with the basics of FIFA eligibility comprehension ;D
The IFA challenge was feeble from the bottom to the top, no matter what way you may wish to construe a "Rajput folly" determination to travel first class on a flight to Zurich, spending a relative fortune on expenses and a legal team, in order to wail and whine about how right they are and everybody else has it wrong.
Feeble at the top - no intellectual grasp of the eligibility topic.
Feeble at the bottom, as in no foundation to their legal case.
What you could call´total feebleness´.
When "feeble challenge" is used to describe an appeal case, that's what a person like me understands it to mean.
.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 04, 2010, 09:15:44 PM
Now, can you direct me to the post on this board in which you (or anyone else, for that matter) has queried the use of the term 'huns' to describe the Rangers team and its supporters?
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9395.msg377687#msg377687
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4063.msg133799#msg133799
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:21:23 PM
Yeah that bit's just crazy. A sporting organistion's policy on flags, eligibility and whatnot can't in any way be equated with a mass murder campaign.
:D
Quote from: Main Street on August 05, 2010, 01:10:25 AM
I have not got your powers of, shall we say, creative comprehension, nor your certainty that your own interpretation is the one true interpretation ::) , which you retain despite your previous form, struggling very badly with the basics of FIFA eligibility comprehension ;D
The IFA challenge was feeble from the bottom to the top, no matter what way you may wish to construe a "Rajput folly" determination to travel first class on a flight to Zurich, spending a relative fortune on expenses and a legal team, in order to wail and whine about how right they are and everybody else has it wrong.
Feeble at the top - no intellectual grasp of the eligibility topic.
Feeble at the bottom, as in no foundation to their legal case.
What you could call´total feebleness´.
When "feeble challenge" is used to describe an appeal case, that's what a person like me understands it to mean.
so you reckon that the 'F' does not stand for 'football' (sic)
but rather total Foolishness
or
total Feebleness
:D
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:21:23 PM
a mass murder campaign.
I was going to say that sporting organisations and armies can hardly be compared, but one man's mass murder campaign is another man's revolution, etc.
Quote from: Hardy on August 05, 2010, 12:01:04 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 04, 2010, 09:15:44 PM
Now, can you direct me to the post on this board in which you (or anyone else, for that matter) has queried the use of the term 'huns' to describe the Rangers team and its supporters?
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9395.msg377687#msg377687
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4063.msg133799#msg133799
Fair play to you - thanks for that.
Quote from: Main Street on August 05, 2010, 01:10:25 AM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 04, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.
Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?
I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)
The IFA appeal to CAS to request FIFA to implement FIFA rules (as they the IFA could only interpret them) was an example of supreme folly and intellectual feebleness. That you don't see this, even after all my painfully pedantic perfectionist explanation of the statutes of eligibility to you ::)
You shoulda stayed away :)
Main Street, old son, your powers of comprehension are seriously failing you tonight.
SS2 wasn't referring to the IFA challenge as feeble as in "intellectual feebleness" - he meant it wasn't pursued with particular vigour. It might have beem ill-concieved but it didn't lack effort, however wrongly-directed.
I have not got your powers of, shall we say, creative comprehension, nor your certainty that your own interpretation is the one true interpretation ::) , which you retain despite your previous form, struggling very badly with the basics of FIFA eligibility comprehension ;D
The IFA challenge was feeble from the bottom to the top, no matter what way you may wish to construe a "Rajput folly" determination to travel first class on a flight to Zurich, spending a relative fortune on expenses and a legal team, in order to wail and whine about how right they are and everybody else has it wrong.
Feeble at the top - no intellectual grasp of the eligibility topic.
Feeble at the bottom, as in no foundation to their legal case.
What you could call´total feebleness´.
When "feeble challenge" is used to describe an appeal case, that's what a person like me understands it to mean.
.
Oh dear, MS, you're getting it wrong on two counts now:
1 - I think the IFA's interpretation of FIFA rules was wrong and I've said so over and over again
2- I was quite clearly referring to the effort that the IFA put into their challenge, not the quality of it.
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:35:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:19:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 04, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
What heinous crimes have the IRFU and FAI committed (incompetence doesn't count).
I'm talking specifically about the IRFU and their notion of equal recognition and representation of the RoI and NI.
Could you explain that a bit more please?
Do they have a policy that they are not adhering to?
No, it's the policy they are adhering to that I have an issue with.
(Sadly rugby league, which was exemplary from what I could see, decided to go down the southern-chauvinist route too recently)
What is this 'southern chauvinist route'?
After an exemplary past using Ireland's Call (and a four-provinces type flag), they decided to jack it all in for the 2008 World Cup and use Amhran na bhFiann instead.
Why did they change it? Was it done procedurally (with some sort of democratic process) or just by decree?
(And wasn't the world cup in 2007 not that it changes the point?)
I think he means the Rugby LEague world cup in 2008. The IRFU officially use the three shamrock and rugby ball logo flag, and Ireland's Call.
The IRL used the four provinces flag (quadrants with the red hand, munster crowns, leinster harp and connacht whatever that weird yoke is).
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 06, 2010, 09:21:13 AM
I think he means the Rugby LEague world cup in 2008.
I'd hazard a guess that most of the "Ireland" rugby League team werent aware that Ireland had a National Anthem ::)
Quote from: Massey-135 on August 06, 2010, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?
Not at all. My cat's a great companion and the meals on wheels people always stand and chat for a while. ;)
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 06, 2010, 09:21:13 AM
I think he means the Rugby LEague world cup in 2008. The IRFU officially use the three shamrock and rugby ball logo flag, and Ireland's Call.
The IRL used the four provinces flag (quadrants with the red hand, munster crowns, leinster harp and connacht whatever that weird yoke is).
Rugby League ffs.
They could play 'Where's me jumper?' as National Anthem at that for all I care.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 06, 2010, 09:21:13 AM
I think he means the Rugby LEague world cup in 2008. The IRFU officially use the three shamrock and rugby ball logo flag, and Ireland's Call.
The IRL used the four provinces flag (quadrants with the red hand, munster crowns, leinster harp and connacht whatever that weird yoke is).
>:(
Feck off its the Regensburg Irish Monastary standard combined with the O'Connors of Connachts standard.
Quote from: MW on August 05, 2010, 11:13:22 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 05, 2010, 01:10:25 AM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 04, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.
Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?
I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)
The IFA appeal to CAS to request FIFA to implement FIFA rules (as they the IFA could only interpret them) was an example of supreme folly and intellectual feebleness. That you don't see this, even after all my painfully pedantic perfectionist explanation of the statutes of eligibility to you ::)
You shoulda stayed away :)
Main Street, old son, your powers of comprehension are seriously failing you tonight.
SS2 wasn't referring to the IFA challenge as feeble as in "intellectual feebleness" - he meant it wasn't pursued with particular vigour. It might have beem ill-concieved but it didn't lack effort, however wrongly-directed.
I have not got your powers of, shall we say, creative comprehension, nor your certainty that your own interpretation is the one true interpretation ::) , which you retain despite your previous form, struggling very badly with the basics of FIFA eligibility comprehension ;D
The IFA challenge was feeble from the bottom to the top, no matter what way you may wish to construe a "Rajput folly" determination to travel first class on a flight to Zurich, spending a relative fortune on expenses and a legal team, in order to wail and whine about how right they are and everybody else has it wrong.
Feeble at the top - no intellectual grasp of the eligibility topic.
Feeble at the bottom, as in no foundation to their legal case.
What you could call´total feebleness´.
When "feeble challenge" is used to describe an appeal case, that's what a person like me understands it to mean.
.
Oh dear, MS, you're getting it wrong on two counts now:
1 - I think the IFA's interpretation of FIFA rules was wrong and I've said so over and over again
2- I was quite clearly referring to the effort that the IFA put into their challenge, not the quality of it.
Oh dear, MW ::) what a condescending pr*ick you are ;D You pompously claimed to have the absolute interpretation of what SS2 referred to when he used the description "feeble challenge"
Yes, I do know what you were referring to, there is no need to repeat the folly. It was a worthless reference. I am just pointing out emphatically that it was a totally irrelevant and meaningless reference. And that SS2's description of "feeble challenge" in relation to the IFA's challenge was entirely accurate and had plenty of context
Mind you, I do appreciate the IFA effort to get away with the amount of stupidity it takes to pay a legal team with badly needed IFA funds, the effort it takes to travel first class to Zurich, stay at the Dolder Grand Hotel and dander around by the Lakes of Zurich on a sunny afternoon. But then again, maybe it was not difficult, most of the OWC are not the brightest are they?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 06, 2010, 06:50:40 PM
Quote from: Massey-135 on August 06, 2010, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?
Not at all. My cat's a great companion and the meals on wheels people always stand and chat for a while. ;)
Are you that hermit that continaully writes to the Irish News letters page? Wilfred Breen is it?
Quote from: bennydorano on August 07, 2010, 10:05:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 06, 2010, 06:50:40 PM
Quote from: Massey-135 on August 06, 2010, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?
Not at all. My cat's a great companion and the meals on wheels people always stand and chat for a while. ;)
Are you that hermit that continaully writes to the Irish News letters page? Wilfred Breen is it?
Wilfred's an Omagh man. I think Myles lives up the six county statelet a bit ;)
Mylies is currently penning a booklet guide, "How to pass as a nationalist/celtic fan in hostile environs"
subbed
"for those who are dumb enough to want to and thick enough to think they can get away with it, here is the guideline of the doos and donts".
Quote from: ziggysego on August 07, 2010, 11:08:45 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 07, 2010, 10:05:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on August 06, 2010, 06:50:40 PM
Quote from: Massey-135 on August 06, 2010, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on July 31, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
'If you want to discuss politics then why not do that on a nationalist political forum or blog rather than a GAA one where ROI supporters will be predominant? Are you 'ringing the da' about soccer now or posting about it on a forum? Haven't you posted in the Celtic threads?'
I'd post on 'Slugger' fairly regularly. I'm also fairly regular on Munster rugby and the Scottish Football Association sites. Like I say, I'm here for the general discussions, not the sport. I do post on the Celtic thread, as I've been a follower since about 1967. I remember watching the '67 final live on tv. How many on here can say that? Also remember watching the '70 final against Feynoord.
Any other questions before I go to bed?
You must spend a lot of time on message boards. Especially for someone who must be around the 50 mark. I'd say your life must be rather empty?
Not at all. My cat's a great companion and the meals on wheels people always stand and chat for a while. ;)
Are you that hermit that continaully writes to the Irish News letters page? Wilfred Breen is it?
Wilfred's an Omagh man. I think Myles lives up the six county statelet a bit ;)
The Cavan one then - McGeever?
ffs how did this get to 14 pages??
Quote from: Main Street on August 07, 2010, 03:59:13 PM
Quote from: MW on August 05, 2010, 11:13:22 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 05, 2010, 01:10:25 AM
Quote from: MW on August 04, 2010, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 04, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 03, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Just my opinion. I really don't think that the feebleness (if that is a word) of the IFA challenge can be down to incompetence alone.
Oh SS2, your belief in the limits of the IFA's incompetence is touching but completely misplaced. They are as useless as a marzipan dildo (copyright Malcolm Tucker) and then some. Have you ever heard Raymond Kennedy speak?
I actually don't think their challenge has been feeble. They went to FIFA at least twice to appeal the situation and then took them to the Court of Arbitration for Sport - a very serious step for any national association. In the end the simple fact was that the FIFA rules do seem to permit the current situation (even if IFA officials did make silly statements in the media [mis]quoting the wrong rules)
The IFA appeal to CAS to request FIFA to implement FIFA rules (as they the IFA could only interpret them) was an example of supreme folly and intellectual feebleness. That you don't see this, even after all my painfully pedantic perfectionist explanation of the statutes of eligibility to you ::)
You shoulda stayed away :)
Main Street, old son, your powers of comprehension are seriously failing you tonight.
SS2 wasn't referring to the IFA challenge as feeble as in "intellectual feebleness" - he meant it wasn't pursued with particular vigour. It might have beem ill-concieved but it didn't lack effort, however wrongly-directed.
I have not got your powers of, shall we say, creative comprehension, nor your certainty that your own interpretation is the one true interpretation ::) , which you retain despite your previous form, struggling very badly with the basics of FIFA eligibility comprehension ;D
The IFA challenge was feeble from the bottom to the top, no matter what way you may wish to construe a "Rajput folly" determination to travel first class on a flight to Zurich, spending a relative fortune on expenses and a legal team, in order to wail and whine about how right they are and everybody else has it wrong.
Feeble at the top - no intellectual grasp of the eligibility topic.
Feeble at the bottom, as in no foundation to their legal case.
What you could call´total feebleness´.
When "feeble challenge" is used to describe an appeal case, that's what a person like me understands it to mean.
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Oh dear, MS, you're getting it wrong on two counts now:
1 - I think the IFA's interpretation of FIFA rules was wrong and I've said so over and over again
2- I was quite clearly referring to the effort that the IFA put into their challenge, not the quality of it.
Oh dear, MW ::) what a condescending pr*ick you are ;D You pompously claimed to have the absolute interpretation of what SS2 referred to when he used the description "feeble challenge"
Yes, I do know what you were referring to, there is no need to repeat the folly. It was a worthless reference. I am just pointing out emphatically that it was a totally irrelevant and meaningless reference. And that SS2's description of "feeble challenge" in relation to the IFA's challenge was entirely accurate and had plenty of context
Mind you, I do appreciate the IFA effort to get away with the amount of stupidity it takes to pay a legal team with badly needed IFA funds, the effort it takes to travel first class to Zurich, stay at the Dolder Grand Hotel and dander around by the Lakes of Zurich on a sunny afternoon. But then again, maybe it was not difficult, most of the OWC are not the brightest are they?
With respect, that's a bit uncalled for.
It felt right at the time.