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Bit of an overreaction to Derry's 'win'... it was a draw fulltime and extra-time and Dublin won't be so pourous come championship. However I think that's Derry's full hand albeit impressive.

You think Dublin were not playing to win?

Not in the way they would a big championship game. Did you ever see their backline so loose? Could easily have conceeded six goals. I'd be very surprised if they are as pourous in June/July.

In fairness Kerry in the league could have had a couple more goals against Dublin, Clifford blasted a couple over and butchered another one wide.
Expect them to tighten up for Championship, only conceded one goal through the whole of the Round Robin & Knockout stages. Cluxton likely being back too will help.

[If they do win the ulster 1st seed. They be destined to met Dublin in a semi]

If they do win the ulster 1st seed. They be destined to met Dublin in a semi if they top the group qualifiers and win their quarter final. If they lost in Ulster and did draw in Kerry Dublin section in the qualifiers they might be better placed to avoid Dublin to the final If they managed to progress that far, food for thought.

Not true. Semi-finals pairing are based on a draw, unless two of the four have met in the group stages, I.E Derry v Monaghan met in group stages in 2023, therefore no need for a draw for semis.

There was still a draw last year iirc as Dublin v Derry, and Kerry v Monaghan would have been acceptable pairings.

How Dublin escaped the mini-melee and the final melee after the goal in extra time with a single yellow card is bizarre.

What happened to the streaming on Ulster Gaa TV? First two weeks had a game each, none last week and none advertised for this week either. Would have thought Derry v Tyrone would be worth showing

Updated NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

1. Darragh Canavan (Tyrone) 2-17
2. Shane McGuigan (Derry) 1-19
3. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 2-15
4. David Clifford (Kerry) 1-15
5. Sean O'Shea (Kerry) 0-15
6. Fergal Boland (Mayo) 0-13
6. Enda Smith (Roscommon) 1-10
8. Ross McGarry (Dublin) 0-12
9. Ciaran Daly (Tyrone) 1-08
9. Jack McCarron (Monaghan) 1-08

From Stephen O'Meara (The Square D)

There was potentially the beginnings of a seismic shift in the landscape of inter-county football on the weekend.

A completely different style of game by David Clifford resulted in previously unparalleled stats by him . Five points from play and two assists with only one wide!

(unparalleled of the games I've logged, and excluding where teams have defended man-on-man)

These are stats more normal for Con O'Callaghan than Clifford who's scores are, on average, more counter-balanced with high numbers of missed shots and turnovers. If this becomes his new norm, the balance of Gaelic football is about to change!

Will the Omagh pitch be fit to hold the U20 game tomorrow night? surely there must be some consideration to switching venue

Moved to the Dub

[last summer when Armagh were unbeaten]

Power Rankings as I see it currently.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Derry
4. Mayo
5. Galway
6. Tyrone
7. Donegal
8. Armagh
9. Roscommon
10. Monaghan
11. Cork
12. Cavan
13. Meath
14. Down
15. Louth
16. Fermanagh
17. Westmeath
18. Kildare
19. Clare
20. Sligo
21. Antrim
22. Laois
23. Offaly
24. Wexford
25. Longford
26. Wicklow
27. Limerick
28. Carlow
29. Leitrim
30. Tipperary
31. London
32. Waterford
33. New York

This is a ranking on Boards.ie based on FIFA ranking calculations. It suggests that Monaghan and Roscommon are for Div 2 and Kildare for Div 3. If you wonder why Armagh are higher than Donegal, this reflects last summer when Armagh were unbeaten and Donegal were beaten. It does not count penalties.

A lot of people seem to forget this but Armagh were beaten by Tyrone last summer.

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

I don't get this obsession from pundits/commentators about scores from play. They all count the same.

Shane Mc Guigan leads the top scoring charts in division 1 by a clear 7 points (on 1-30).

So if a player scored 10 points in a game, 9 from play
And another player scored 10 points, 1 from play
You're saying they played equally as well?

NFL Division 1 top scorers from play per Gaelic Statsman on twitter

1. Darragh Canavan (Tyrone) 1-13
1. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 2-10
3. David Clifford (Kerry) 1-10
4. Shane McGuigan (Derry) 0-12
4. Sean O'Shea (Kerry) 0-12
6. Fergal Boland (Mayo) 0-11
6. Ciaran Daly (Tyrone) 1-08
8. Ryan O'Donoghue (Mayo) 0-09
8. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 0-09
10. Paudie Clifford (Kerry) 0-08
10. Jack McCarron (Monaghan) 0-08
10. Diarmuid Murtagh (Roscommon) 0-08
10. Enda Smith (Roscommon) 1-05

Clifford very wasteful early on

Another poor call by Cawley the ref. Black yes but it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity. Mayo 1-4 to 0-3 ahead.

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There were defenders back covering. Should have been a free in.

So what, it's not soccer

GAA Rule states a clear goal scoring opportunity has to be denied to give a penalty.

Not a certain goal but certainly a clear 'opportunity' denied. Its a tight judgement call that he's gave, fair enough call imo as I certainly thought N6 knew exactly what he was at.

It wasn't a black card foul though. Tangle of legs not a deliberate trip.

Tyrone 2021 was the worst All-Ireland winning team since Dublin in 1995. Dublin wouldn't reach another final after that until 2011.

No, I think Derry in 93 were the worst all ireland winning team considering they had basically no real forwards.  Excellent defence and midfield and some good free takers

Their luck was in, they beat Donegal in an Ulster Final that should never have been played because of underfoot conditions. They also had a bit of luck in the AI with Cork's Tony Davis being sent of for nudging a player in the back.

They were still a handy outfit.

I'd say Heaney...Barton...Cassidy...Brolly...Downey...Gormley...McNicholl...Burns would all have a difference of opinion....

In terms of Tyrone and winning the A.I in the covid year...fair play....the Sam Maguire is sitting in front of you....you have to play the games to win it so fair play...

The "Covid year" is surely 2020 where there were no fans, All Ireland played week before Christmas etc., rather than 2021

Tyrone went downhill badly from their All-Ireland win, hard to nail what's wrong, or why they fell away.If they haven't Morgan or Canavan available they be in serious trouble

It;s quite easy - there was a plethora of lads who retired or dropped out after the AI win. They had put in years a drudgery under Harte, got to the promised land under Dooher. They knew they were not at the beginning of something big but at the end and counted their blessings to have got an AI at the end of it all.

As much as they don't want to hear it you can see that they were an average team who took advantage of all the breaks they got that year.

It was said at the time on numerous occasions and rebutted but the past few years have clearly showed it!

People weren't saying this at the time. They had beaten a Mayo team by 5 points that knocked out 6 in a row Dublin, Kerry, Monaghan, Donegal and Ulster Champions Cavan to win that All Ireland. It was only after Tyrone performed badly in 2022 and moreso in 2023 that pundits began the revisionist history.

Them Canavan lads aren't too fond of passing the ball.UU missed 2 sitters of goals

Darragh set up the goal for Loughlin with a good pass