Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[sambostar]

Yes I wouldn't put Penrose or Mellon in the same class as Canavan/Cavlan/Dooher/SON/Mulligan.

Harte & Matty better than either Penrose or Mellon. I remember Mellon got the 1st 2 points I think in the 2005 final for Tyrone but don't think he did a pile after that

[BennyHarp]

I think neither Mattie or Harte are particularly good leaders and struggle a little when they are the main focus of the opposition attention. In that regard I think the pair of them would have thrived when the opposition focus may have been on Canavan, O'Neill or Mugsy. Donnelly would have made hay given the space Kerry afforded Ryan Mellon....as did Ryan in the first half of 05 to be fair and both would be much better versions of themselves with better quality team mates.

[Jim Bob]

When Mugsy was on the team squad didn't really bother me whether he was picked or not. Had some outstanding moments in the Tyrone jersey but consistent he was not. Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Canavan or O'Neill. He seems to think he was a better player than any of the forwards we have now. He wasn't.

[longballin]

When Mugsy was on the team squad didn't really bother me whether he was picked or not. Had some outstanding moments in the Tyrone jersey but consistent he was not. Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Canavan or O'Neill. He seems to think he was a better player than any of the forwards we have now. He wasn't.

I would say he was..

[southtyronegael]

wouldnt exactly say o neill was consistent either. unreal year in 05 but alot of injuries other years. didnt start finals of 03 or 08. canavan out on his own with ability, consistency, reliability and longevity.

[longballin]

What they wouldn't give to have O'Neill and Mugsy now.

[southtyronegael]

What they wouldn't give to have O'Neill and Mugsy now.

to be honest it wouldnt have made much difference this last few years cause we dont kick the ball inside. would o neill or mulligan have been much use against dublin last year with our gameplan?

[longballin]

What they wouldn't give to have O'Neill and Mugsy now.

to be honest it wouldnt have made much difference this last few years cause we dont kick the ball inside. would o neill or mulligan have been much use against dublin last year with our gameplan?

That's true, very hard to blossom playing like that probaly why so many good forwards havent come through... Coney, McNiece, McKenna, McCurry...

[Christmas Lights]

When Mugsy was on the team squad didn't really bother me whether he was picked or not. Had some outstanding moments in the Tyrone jersey but consistent he was not. Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Canavan or O'Neill. He seems to think he was a better player than any of the forwards we have now. He wasn't.

A truly embarrassing post. Have a word with yourself.

[longballin]

When Mugsy was on the team squad didn't really bother me whether he was picked or not. Had some outstanding moments in the Tyrone jersey but consistent he was not. Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Canavan or O'Neill. He seems to think he was a better player than any of the forwards we have now. He wasn't.

A truly embarrassing post. Have a word with yourself.

Agreed!

[southtyronegael]

jimbob should stick to correcting peoples spellings and grammer and leave the football chat to the rest of us.lol

[Jim Bob]

wouldnt exactly say o neill was consistent either. unreal year in 05 but alot of injuries other years. didnt start finals of 03 or 08. canavan out on his own with ability, consistency, reliability and longevity.

This suggests you agree with me !!!

[Jim Bob]

When Mugsy was on the team squad didn't really bother me whether he was picked or not. Had some outstanding moments in the Tyrone jersey but consistent he was not. Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Canavan or O'Neill. He seems to think he was a better player than any of the forwards we have now. He wasn't.

A truly embarrassing post. Have a word with yourself.

Embarrassing to who ?

[Jim Bob]

jimbob should stick to correcting peoples spellings and grammer and leave the football chat to the rest of us.lol

Jesus wept !!!

[Thebigdog]

I was disappointed to see Mugsy in the papers trying to stir up controversy in return for a few quid from Paddy power. I think he was particularly harsh on Morgan and don't think that a fellow Tyrone man, and former team mate of Nialls, should be sticking the knife in like this. He said that Brennan would kick the longer range frees blindfolded, if Mugsy was watching Tyrone in the league this year at all he would know this is not the case. Lee racked up a big tally from frees throughout the league but it has to be said that a number of these were handy ones from close in and that he was guilty of missing a few longer range ones. It's also very easy to say that Lee should hit, and would score, all of our frees but the fact remains that he hasn't been tested in the white heat of a championship match that is in the balance so the jury should remain out until this happens.

Mugsy also claimed that our style is too defensive and that he would like to see Lee, Bradley, Skeet and Harte all playing closer to goal. Again, has he not been watching Tyrone this year? This was exactly the forward line v Donegal and Mayo in our good run towards the end of the League and Niall Sludden was also playing further up the pitch.

I didnt get reading it but did Mugsy state that none of the Tyrone forwards would have got on any of the Tyrone teams that won All Ireland.
Agree of Disagree? IMO its hard to disagree, Certainly not in the first 2 all Ireland wins anyway!!
Maybe Sludden would be the only one who would come close to it and even at that you'd have to throw him in at wing forward cause B.McGuigan certainly wouldnt be replaced

He's absolutely correct. None of them would have got onto the teams of the 00s. That in itself is no insult, just reality.

Are we not classing Matty Donnelly or Petey Harte as forwards? Because either of them would have made those teams. In case you have all forgotten, Ryan Mellon, Marty Penrose and Tommy McGuigan all started in All Ireland finals in the 00s.

Did Penrose start All Ireland Final? I cant rememenber

Mellon was outstanding, that performance against the Dubs in the rain where he scored the goal, Man off the match in All Ireland final? He certainly would never have been droppped from that team!

Tommy McGuigan-  Goal in the All ireland final!!

Even at this, where would you put Matty and Harte then Corner forward? Because both Matty and Harte have shown they arent  half the player they are on the full forward line..
Dont get me wrong great players but as forwards on the 00's team, I dont think so.
Ill use an example..

Dooher McGuigan Mellon
Mugsey Canavan Oneil

Who do you drop?

it's hard to believe that is actually the only time that full forward line played together, the 05 final. Some messing about with team selection even back then. In an 09 league game against Dublin in croke Sean Cavanagh replaced canavan as that full forward. Tyrone were brilliant that night.with the trio up front. After that Cavanagh was moved out to midfield with Penrose and a few different others chopped and changed into the forwards. Short kick outs took over and the Tyrone seniors have been rubbish ever since. Ah well, it will be 2021 at least before the good times hopefully come back and Tyrone GAA is out of the gutter. Ps well done too SF in West Tyrone, the neo Catholic bigot s.wont be happy this morning lol