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GAA Discussion / Re: Football qualifier route 2018
« on: June 24, 2018, 06:50:26 PM »
Donegal are a very good side and will be hard to stop.

What way does the next round of the qualifiers work? Can Fermanagh have a home draw etc....

Next round is round 3. Fermanagh are in round 4. Possibly at Croke Park

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 24, 2018, 04:13:57 PM »
I see one of the Armagh lads playing today had his hair dyed orange.
Seriously.
Heartiest congratulations to Derry.
are you sure? Turbitt has a wild shock of orange hair

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GAA Discussion / Re: Marc ” Sť vs Sean Cavanagh
« on: June 24, 2018, 03:28:13 PM »
How does anyone know what SeanC said or didnt say to MickeyH in his last few years as captain of Tyrone?

The players who were there would know
Well neither O'Se nor Canavan were there when Cav has been captain. Have others said it?

Didnít Devin say something about it?

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Good to see plenty of Palestine flags

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 24, 2018, 01:54:07 PM »
Delighted to see that Armagh outfit beaten.

Good for you

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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: June 24, 2018, 11:25:35 AM »
If all you achieve is to annoy the shite outta stephenite, Iím behind you.
Best of luck.

Iím not annoyed, mildly amused if anything.
 
Gives them great comfort indeed .... ::)

Aye. Sure what would you know about it anyway

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football qualifier route 2018
« on: June 24, 2018, 08:53:23 AM »
Armagh getting Mayo and giving them a game wouldn't be the worst outcome of the draw.

It would be in the AG? Does that rule still apply

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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: June 24, 2018, 07:49:28 AM »
Fair play to you John I hope clones is a sea of Palestine flags tomorrow. I'm sure the people of Palestine will see the pictures through social media and it will give them a great boost that they won't have to fight their fight alone.

It will make f**k all difference to the oppressed people of Palestine.

This seems to be a vanity project for a 1 individual, hitching his cause to the GAA.

John, you are a misguided fool at best, and a dangerous f**ker at worst, I think you should be ashamed of yourself
Like I said John, never mind the begrudgers, some of whom post on this thread, keep up the good work
When Celtic made their massive Palestine display a few years ago, it didnít change anything but it did give Palestinians a lot of comfort to know that there were people who werenít forgetting them and were supporting them and highlighting their plight

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GAA Discussion / Re: Sligo v Armagh 23/06/2018
« on: June 23, 2018, 10:12:54 PM »

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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: June 23, 2018, 02:51:19 PM »
While those who chose B are living in a fantasy land. Sport always has been and always will be political to some degree, but when it becomes as much or more about humanitarianism as bout politics, then people have a right, or a responsibility to speak up at every available opportunity. It was sporting boycotts (amongst other boycotts) which contributed hugely to the ending of apartheid in South Africa. Here is an opportunity to once again be on the right side of history, instead of hiding behind 'keep the politics out of it' bull.

No one is stopping you speaking out. No one is stopping you organizing a boycott of Israeli products or sporting events. Knock yourself out.

Well the GardaŪ were confiscating Palestine flags in Navan, so....

Have you any evidence of that whatsoever?

Pretty sure thereís a video of the gardai taking the Palestine flag off the guy

He was asked to take it down as it was obstructing people trying to view the game. Was it subsequently held onto?

Thatís the reason they gave. Regardless of wether it was held onto or not, it was confiscated

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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: June 23, 2018, 02:39:26 PM »
While those who chose B are living in a fantasy land. Sport always has been and always will be political to some degree, but when it becomes as much or more about humanitarianism as bout politics, then people have a right, or a responsibility to speak up at every available opportunity. It was sporting boycotts (amongst other boycotts) which contributed hugely to the ending of apartheid in South Africa. Here is an opportunity to once again be on the right side of history, instead of hiding behind 'keep the politics out of it' bull.

No one is stopping you speaking out. No one is stopping you organizing a boycott of Israeli products or sporting events. Knock yourself out.

Well the GardaŪ were confiscating Palestine flags in Navan, so....

Have you any evidence of that whatsoever?

Pretty sure thereís a video of the gardai taking the Palestine flag off the guy

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GAA Discussion / Re: Concerned Gaels
« on: June 23, 2018, 11:51:27 AM »
Keep up the good work John. Never mind the begrudgers, some of whom post on this thread

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GAA Discussion / Re: Sligo v Armagh 23/06/2018
« on: June 23, 2018, 11:49:18 AM »
Still want to be there

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 23, 2018, 11:48:16 AM »
So 7 of the suspensions have been overturned? Really? So only 3 Armagh players have been deemed to do anything wrong? What charges were levelled against the other 7 oringinally? How have they got off? Clarity is needed here because the next time a game descends into a full scale brawl we need to know what we can't and can do?? I need to tell my underage lads what the dos and don'ts are as they wade into a field fight. The GAA disciplinary system is a complete joke. How many more of these embarrassing appeals needs to happen before the GAA have the balls to re-write the fecking rule book and close loopholes and implement huge extensions to bans for unsuccessful appeals?

I agree with a lot of this but canít say the appeals were embarrassing without knowing anything about them. Who was suspended, why and what grounds the appeals were based on.

I meant embarrassing for the GAA as once again the disciplinary procedures are shown up to be flimsy in a high profile case. Itís not embarrassing for Armagh, they did what they had to do and it paid off.

+1

Typical clowns at Ulster Council level who should know the rules and the evidence required before a suspension can be implemented.  They just did a blanket ban on everyone who could be seen in the melee using the team sheets knowing that appeals would be instigated and the next level would have to sort it out, pushing it off their agenda.

Those on the disciplinary committee who proposed the suspensions have brought the system into disrepute. They should have taken the time to identify air-tight suspensions and issued a statement condemning the behaviour and highlighting for the authorities the need to have proper sanctions for a melee of this scale.

Rules should be available to sanctions all in charge of under age squads for failing to maintain discipline when a melee erupts, managers and coaches should take the brunt and county boards should be hit with serious fines. Players should be disciplined if correctly identified but this is very difficult in something that erupts quickly and lasts less than a couple of minutes.  Both teams should be sanctioned by being ejected from the competition.

There is no excuse for behaviour as seen at the semi final, even if the opposition is Tyrone and they are up to their usual tactics off the ball.  ;)

Ulster Council should have had the courage to eject both team, declare Derry the winners and who is really concerned that the is no game before 12pm on Ulster Final day, very few would be there to see it anyway.

A severe lack of courage is all around when it comes to dealing with matters like this by Ulster Council and this incident highlights them all.

Throwing both teams out only punishes one team unless the ban carries over. In which case that could punish players who had nothing to do with it and cost them their only involvement in a county set up.

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