East Belfast GAA

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

So have I got this right then?

1. GAA club to open in East Belfast;

2. They sign up their first Prod;

3. "She's a Witch, burn her!"

I guess that's what you call a 'warm house for Protestants' 

No wrong. I spent times trying to recruit underage Protestant lads in Derry .it's not about that, it's about Linda Ervine outscoring more deserving groups in everything just because she is Protestant.The GAA will be all over this ,perfect story to show they have moved on. They will draw down funds from everywhere. It's highly unlikely Protestants will ever play for them, b

[michaelg]

I think those who heard her on the radio did listen to her. They decided they didn't want what she was asking for. Which is fair enough, I think.

The wannabe types from our side don't go asking Ulster Rugby to change their traditions to suit us.They just go along and pretend they are like them.Linda Ervine either joins up under our traditions or else just keep getting the coin for what is her admirable work in the promotion of the Irish language.We are what we are!

What 'traditions' at Ulster Rugby need to be changed?

[omaghjoe]

I think those who heard her on the radio did listen to her. They decided they didn't want what she was asking for. Which is fair enough, I think.

The wannabe types from our side don't go asking Ulster Rugby to change their traditions to suit us.They just go along and pretend they are like them.Linda Ervine either joins up under our traditions or else just keep getting the coin for what is her admirable work in the promotion of the Irish language.We are what we are!

What 'traditions' at Ulster Rugby need to be changed?

That werid WWF Easter Egg hunt thing

[Evil Genius]

Does your flag and anthem mean there's no room for fenians in your team?

Why not ask them?

As I said in my earlier Edit, the flag and anthem in GAA fairly reflect the whole ethos of the sport(s), at every level, in every corner.

Whereas with football, the NI flag and anthem only appears because it is a requirement of the world governing body, FIFA, that for internationals (only) they be included in the pre-match protocol.

And while some people get teary-eyed etc for 90 seconds before kick-off, most appreciate that it's just a formality, we're really there to play the Germans (or whomever).

Meanwhile, for 99% of matches in NI, none of this applies. And nobody cares.

(For myself, I find the playing of the anthems is the perfect time to go for one last pre-match piss, the queue for the bogs having died down by then)

[Milltown Row2]

Cause they are all out, singing their hearts out

[omaghjoe]

Does your flag and anthem mean there's no room for fenians in your team?

Why not ask them?

As I said in my earlier Edit, the flag and anthem in GAA fairly reflect the whole ethos of the sport(s), at every level, in every corner.

Whereas with football, the NI flag and anthem only appears because it is a requirement of the world governing body, FIFA, that for internationals (only) they be included in the pre-match protocol.

And while some people get teary-eyed etc for 90 seconds before kick-off, most appreciate that it's just a formality, we're really there to play the Germans (or whomever).

Meanwhile, for 99% of matches in NI, none of this applies. And nobody cares.

(For myself, I find the playing of the anthems is the perfect time to go for one last pre-match piss, the queue for the bogs having died down by then)

What?? Your joking for the craic right?

Justin case your not feeling free to explain why GSTQ gets an airing at NI matches and not in Wales or Scotland? Danny Boy is widely recognized as a neutral alternative.
And if the whole Nationalism thing is just a formality maybe you could explain why Windsor Park is decked out Union Jacks from pillar to post, then there is the sectarian chanting, booing of Catholic players. I think its fair to say most Catholics prob just put up with it as its a commercial opportunity.

On another note.... is that your Linda?

[Evil Genius]

Cause they are all out, singing their hearts out

Or had left a few minutes earlier to take their seats.

Meanwhile, I'm still nifty enough on my feet to empty the bladder, give the oul fella a shake, do my flies up, run my hands under the tap, nip out and get back up the stairs in time for the referee's whistle! (Years of practice  )

[BennyCake]

So have I got this right then?

1. GAA club to open in East Belfast;

2. They sign up their first Prod;

3. "She's a Witch, burn her!"

I guess that's what you call a 'warm house for Protestants' 

Did their new clubhouse qualify for an RHI boiler?

[DuffGael]

Getting back on topic,  as someone from Carryduff GAC I am delighted that this club is being formed. There is huge potential in North Down(including the large part of Belfast in Down)  for more clubs to form over the next few decades.  The club will start small and weak but if they get things right they will survive and then grow. Carryduff and Bredagh won't be effected by the new club and knowing both clubs they will help them in any way they can.  St Paul's may lose a few but they have huge potential to grow over the next 5/10 years. Look this is good news for the GAA in Down and in Belfast. As for all the political stuff,  who cares,  let's get the balls and sticks out and enjoy it.

[BennyCake]

Ps. Remember Jarlath Burns and his National Anthem/Flag rant that quickly disappeared.

I remember big Jarlath saying that a few years ago, and I disagreed.

As time goes on, I agree with him. The Irish flag isn't needed at any ground. A GAA flag should be flown with flags of the participating teams. . And the anthem isn't needed either, except for All Ireland final day.

[Evil Genius]

Justin case your not feeling free to explain why GSTQ gets an airing at NI matches and not in Wales or Scotland? Danny Boy is widely recognized as a neutral alternative.

I, and a whole lot of fans I know, would greatly prefer something like Danny Boy.

But the IFA is not going to change GSTQ anytime soon, at least while England retain it, not because of some inalienable attachment, but because it would just raise another shit-storm from DUP types who don't even follow the game. Meaning it's easier just to play it for 8 or 10 internationals, out of the thousands of games played up and down the country every season. Meaning they're craven rather than dogmatic.

But it's interesting that you call for a "neutral" anthem. Would the GAA be willing to adopt a neutral anthem too, at least for games played in NI?

And should the IRFU drop the SS completely and just make do with Ireland's Call, for the sake of consistency?

And if the whole Nationalism thing is just a formality maybe you could explain why Windsor Park is decked out Union Jacks from pillar to post, then there is the sectarian chanting, booing of Catholic players. I think its fair to say most Catholics prob just put up with it as its a commercial opportunity.

It isn't "decked out with UJ's from pillar to post". A few fans bring them - it's hardly illegal - but they're only a small minority of the flags and banners on display.
Nor is there "sectarian chanting" and Catholic players do not get booed.

I suppose you might be forgiven for believing that, since you've clearly never been to an NI international, yet certain people with an agenda perpetuate these outdated myths which (presumably) suit your own perspective.

Meanwhile, those who do take the trouble to attend, know that the reality is far different these days eg:
https://www.northernslant.com/son-first-northern-ireland-match/

Then again, you might already have known this, since didn't your very own Jerome Quinn go to a game at Windsor in his GAA top looking for a "story" and the best he could come up with is that some people "looked at him" (Er, you're "that fella from the telly", Jerome); a fanzine seller gave him  a free copy ("How dare he"); oh and the fans hummed the theme from "The Great Escape" (the very essence of sectarianism...).

I suspect that if you attended, you'd be similarly disappointed ("Disabused" rather than "Abused"?  )

On another note.... is that your Linda?

Oh my aching sides.

[armaghniac]

And even though I think that it should be a source of embarrassment that 1/6th of the population of Ireland is excluded - or feels itself excluded - from playing particular sports, I might add that I'm not "offended" by this.

Are you embarrassed because  you exclude yourself from normal life in Ireland because you identify with the 17th century?

[Evil Genius]

So have I got this right then?

1. GAA club to open in East Belfast;

2. They sign up their first Prod;

3. "She's a Witch, burn her!"

I guess that's what you call a 'warm house for Protestants' 

Did their new clubhouse qualify for an RHI boiler?

Very good! 

P.S. Would that stand for "Red Hand of Ireland"? And are you calling Linda an oul boiler? 

[Evil Genius]

And even though I think that it should be a source of embarrassment that 1/6th of the population of Ireland is excluded - or feels itself excluded - from playing particular sports, I might add that I'm not "offended" by this.

Are you embarrassed because  you exclude yourself from normal life in Ireland because you identify with the 17th century?

If my sport excluded 48%(?) of the population of NI I'd certainly be embarrassed.

That's because I try to live my life in the 21st century, where what "foot you dig with" shouldn't determine what foot you kick with.

[omaghjoe]

Justin case your not feeling free to explain why GSTQ gets an airing at NI matches and not in Wales or Scotland? Danny Boy is widely recognized as a neutral alternative.

I, and a whole lot of fans I know, would greatly prefer something like Danny Boy.

But the IFA is not going to change GSTQ anytime soon, at least while England retain it, not because of some inalienable attachment, but because it would just raise another shit-storm from DUP types who don't even follow the game. Meaning it's easier just to play it for 8 or 10 internationals, out of the thousands of games played up and down the country every season. Meaning they're craven rather than dogmatic.

But it's interesting that you call for a "neutral" anthem. Would the GAA be willing to adopt a neutral anthem too, at least for games played in NI?

And should the IRFU drop the SS completely and just make do with Ireland's Call, for the sake of consistency?

And if the whole Nationalism thing is just a formality maybe you could explain why Windsor Park is decked out Union Jacks from pillar to post, then there is the sectarian chanting, booing of Catholic players. I think its fair to say most Catholics prob just put up with it as its a commercial opportunity.

It isn't "decked out with UJ's from pillar to post". A few fans bring them - it's hardly illegal - but they're only a small minority of the flags and banners on display.
Nor is there "sectarian chanting" and Catholic players do not get booed.

I suppose you might be forgiven for believing that, since you've clearly never been to an NI international, yet certain people with an agenda perpetuate these outdated myths which (presumably) suit your own perspective.

Meanwhile, those who do take the trouble to attend, know that the reality is far different these days eg:
https://www.northernslant.com/son-first-northern-ireland-match/

Then again, you might already have known this, since didn't your very own Jerome Quinn go to a game at Windsor in his GAA top looking for a "story" and the best he could come up with is that some people "looked at him" (Er, you're "that fella from the telly", Jerome); a fanzine seller gave him  a free copy ("How dare he"); oh and the fans hummed the theme from "The Great Escape" (the very essence of sectarianism...).

I suspect that if you attended, you'd be similarly disappointed ("Disabused" rather than "Abused"?  )

On another note.... is that your Linda?

Oh my aching sides.

Now Now Linda dont get so upset

I do apologise for my lack of knowledge on soccer and the comings and goings of NI soccer team and its supporters I am only going on what I hear and see on the news.

So basically your saying GSTQ is only still getting an outing because the DUP types (who are easily the majority of the supporters) would be in uproar.

I also apologise on the UJ, I forgot about that the defunct sectarian statelet flag is the flag of preference for NI supporters

I'll give Windsor a pass tho, unless there was some decent sports played there