European Leagues.

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Cunny Funt

Quote from: AZOffaly on April 12, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
Was said on BT sports last night its the first time that the last 4 of the CL has had one team from England,Spain,Italy and Germany. You have to go back to 1981 for the last time that happened in the European cup and back then Liverpool beat Bayern Munich in the semi final and Real Madrid in the final and i think that was Madrids last final defeat? the omens are all stacking in Liverpools favour.

Yeah. Unfortunately Hansen, Dalglish, Rush, Souness and the great Alan Kennedy are not playing for Liverpool, and Ronaldo is playing for Madrid :)
13 years since Liverpools last win lucky for some? And if average manager in Rafa with players such as Finnan,Traore, Kewell,Smicer,Baros,Cisse and Biscan can win it then surely a better manager in Klopp with a free scoring forward line and one of the worlds most expensive defenders can win this European cup also.

Syferus

Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 12, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
Was said on BT sports last night its the first time that the last 4 of the CL has had one team from England,Spain,Italy and Germany. You have to go back to 1981 for the last time that happened in the European cup and back then Liverpool beat Bayern Munich in the semi final and Real Madrid in the final and i think that was Madrids last final defeat? the omens are all stacking in Liverpools favour.

Yeah. Unfortunately Hansen, Dalglish, Rush, Souness and the great Alan Kennedy are not playing for Liverpool, and Ronaldo is playing for Madrid :)
13 years since Liverpools last win lucky for some? And if average manager in Rafa with players such as Finnan,Traore, Kewell,Smicer,Baros,Cisse and Biscan can win it then surely a better manager in Klopp with a free scoring forward line and one of the worlds most expensive defenders can win this European cup also.

That's the first time I've heard Rafa called average.

laoislad

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Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 12, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
Was said on BT sports last night its the first time that the last 4 of the CL has had one team from England,Spain,Italy and Germany. You have to go back to 1981 for the last time that happened in the European cup and back then Liverpool beat Bayern Munich in the semi final and Real Madrid in the final and i think that was Madrids last final defeat? the omens are all stacking in Liverpools favour.

Yeah. Unfortunately Hansen, Dalglish, Rush, Souness and the great Alan Kennedy are not playing for Liverpool, and Ronaldo is playing for Madrid :)
13 years since Liverpools last win lucky for some? And if average manager in Rafa with players such as Finnan,Traore, Kewell,Smicer,Baros,Cisse and Biscan can win it then surely a better manager in Klopp with a free scoring forward line and one of the worlds most expensive defenders can win this European cup also.
Finnan was an excellent defender ffs,probably the best right back Liverpool have had in recent years, he would have no problem getting onto the current team. Smicer and Cisse were also decent players and Baros wasn't bad either.
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TabClear

Quote from: laoislad on April 12, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 12, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
Was said on BT sports last night its the first time that the last 4 of the CL has had one team from England,Spain,Italy and Germany. You have to go back to 1981 for the last time that happened in the European cup and back then Liverpool beat Bayern Munich in the semi final and Real Madrid in the final and i think that was Madrids last final defeat? the omens are all stacking in Liverpools favour.

Yeah. Unfortunately Hansen, Dalglish, Rush, Souness and the great Alan Kennedy are not playing for Liverpool, and Ronaldo is playing for Madrid :)
13 years since Liverpools last win lucky for some? And if average manager in Rafa with players such as Finnan,Traore, Kewell,Smicer,Baros,Cisse and Biscan can win it then surely a better manager in Klopp with a free scoring forward line and one of the worlds most expensive defenders can win this European cup also.
Finnan was an excellent defender ffs,probably the best right back Liverpool have had in recent years, he would have no problem getting onto the current team. Smicer and Cisse were also decent players and Baros wasn't bad either.

And Biscan for all his faults was outstanding in that Champions League run. Traore is the only one you look at and wonder how he ever got a runout, never mind a champions league medal.

Although....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObZVcMYxWXQ


sid waddell

Quote from: DuffleKing on April 12, 2018, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 12, 2018, 12:09:11 PM
If Ronaldo plays like he did last night, and history shows that's how he usually plays in the really big matches, Liverpool have little to fear from Real Madrid.

Liverpool wouldn't be a big match for Madrid though
Liverpool have never lost a knockout European Cup/Champions League tie to a La Liga team.

Liverpool's knockout European Cup record against Real Madrid is:

Played: 3
Won: 3
Goals for: 6
Goals against: 0

Not much of a match, there, alright.

gawa316

Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 02:27:36 PM

13 years since Liverpools last win lucky for some? And if average manager in Rafa with players such as Finnan,Traore, Kewell,Smicer,Baros,Cisse and Biscan can win it then surely a better manager in Klopp with a free scoring forward line and one of the worlds most expensive defenders can win this European cup also.

What sort of logic is that? If that's the case why can't Pep and Mourinho with 2 of the most expensively assembled squads in the history of football win it?

Syferus

History has shown Ronaldo is a big game payer, not the opposite. His goal tallies in the knockout stages in recent years has been nothing short of ridiculous. And this season he's dragging a team short on confidence and cut adrift in La Liga back to the the big game. Liverpool can't stop him, and probably no one can on these European nights. It would depend on what happens at the other end then.

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: Syferus on April 12, 2018, 03:21:49 PM
History has shown Ronaldo is a big game payer, not the opposite. His goal tallies in the knockout stages in recent years has been nothing short of ridiculous. And this season he's dragging a team short on confidence and cut adrift in La Liga back to the the big game. Liverpool can't stop him, and probably no one can on these European nights. It would depend on what happens at the other end then.

In fairness Juve stopped him last night and only for a moment of stupidity from A defender I reckon Juve would have gone through. That is not to say that Ronaldo is not dangerous through and I would prefer to not play Madrid and hopefully make the final. That would be real bonus territory stuff!

Cunny Funt

Quote from: laoislad on April 12, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 12, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 12, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
Was said on BT sports last night its the first time that the last 4 of the CL has had one team from England,Spain,Italy and Germany. You have to go back to 1981 for the last time that happened in the European cup and back then Liverpool beat Bayern Munich in the semi final and Real Madrid in the final and i think that was Madrids last final defeat? the omens are all stacking in Liverpools favour.

Yeah. Unfortunately Hansen, Dalglish, Rush, Souness and the great Alan Kennedy are not playing for Liverpool, and Ronaldo is playing for Madrid :)
13 years since Liverpools last win lucky for some? And if average manager in Rafa with players such as Finnan,Traore, Kewell,Smicer,Baros,Cisse and Biscan can win it then surely a better manager in Klopp with a free scoring forward line and one of the worlds most expensive defenders can win this European cup also.
Finnan was an excellent defender ffs,probably the best right back Liverpool have had in recent years, he would have no problem getting onto the current team. Smicer and Cisse were also decent players and Baros wasn't bad either.

My point was Liverpool have a better manager and squad of players now than 2005 and of the teams left you have Real Madrid struggling for form all year,Roma happy to have gotten this far and Bayern Munich who were less than convincing over legs against Sevilla.

Orchard park

why would Liverpool not be classed the same as Roma, relatively piss poor in their own league and happy to have overachieved by reaching CL semi finals

AZOffaly

Quote from: Orchard park on April 12, 2018, 03:39:59 PM
why would Liverpool not be classed the same as Roma, relatively piss poor in their own league and happy to have overachieved by reaching CL semi finals

'relatively piss poor'? Sheesh, that's a harsh scale of relativity. At the moment they are third.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: sid waddell on April 12, 2018, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 12, 2018, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on April 12, 2018, 12:09:11 PM
If Ronaldo plays like he did last night, and history shows that's how he usually plays in the really big matches, Liverpool have little to fear from Real Madrid.

Liverpool wouldn't be a big match for Madrid though
Liverpool have never lost a knockout European Cup/Champions League tie to a La Liga team.

Liverpool's knockout European Cup record against Real Madrid is:

Played: 3
Won: 3
Goals for: 6
Goals against: 0

Not much of a match, there, alright.

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Orchard park

Quote from: AZOffaly on April 12, 2018, 03:42:32 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on April 12, 2018, 03:39:59 PM
why would Liverpool not be classed the same as Roma, relatively piss poor in their own league and happy to have overachieved by reaching CL semi finals

'relatively piss poor'? Sheesh, that's a harsh scale of relativity. At the moment they are third.

17 points off the leaders with a game less played is relatively piss poor in my terms in a league in which only 6 normally challenge to be top 4. Suppose depends if you use the leaders or Arsenal as ones benchmark

AZOffaly

#763
Harsh scale of relativity, as I said. In your world, Liverpool would have to be within what, 3 or 4 points of City not to be 'piss poor'? I would say that to be relatively piss poor in your league, you would have to be in the bottom half at least. Unless your graduations go from 'excellent', straight to 'poor' and then 'piss poor'. what's below piss poor?

Asal Mor

Don't like the look of the Olympic Stadium in Kiev as a venue for the final. Has a running track which is always a buzzkill and then a path outside that about half the width of the track again. The seating is very gradually inclined and those in the upper deck, especially behind the goals will need binoculars as they'll be a couple of hundred metres away.