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Title: Shamima Begum
Post by: Truth hurts on September 15, 2021, 02:07:29 PM
Whats peoples views on this? I think she should be allowed back to UK, the right-wing element are giving her grief but feck me she was 15 when she left
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2021, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on September 15, 2021, 02:07:29 PM
Whats peoples views on this? I think she should be allowed back to UK, the right-wing element are giving her grief but feck me she was 15 when she left
Stick poll up. Return with no consequences, return and face trial or keep her out.

I'd prob take her back to face trial.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: tbrick18 on September 15, 2021, 04:35:19 PM
In my mind any right thinking person would be of the view that she should be allowed back.
She was 15 for god sake. Didn't know what she was doing. In the eyes of the law she isn't capable of getting married, consenting to sex or living on her own. Removing her citizenship for doing what she did at the age of 15 is just politicking.
I have a 15 year old girl....the number of times she's done things only to say after she didn't think that through.

Let her home, give her back her citizenship and take her to court if the PPS find a case against her. But if she goes to court, is she tried as a juvenile (being 15 at the time) or and adult?
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 15, 2021, 04:55:47 PM
Wheres the "shes quite tasty so give her another chance" option
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: Orior on September 15, 2021, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on September 15, 2021, 02:07:29 PM
Whats peoples views on this? I think she should be allowed back to UK, the right-wing element are giving her grief but feck me she was 15 when she left

Let her back in, but keep her in Larne. At the weekends, handcuff her to Jolene Bunting.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: RedHand88 on September 15, 2021, 07:55:59 PM
Quote from: Orior on September 15, 2021, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on September 15, 2021, 02:07:29 PM
Whats peoples views on this? I think she should be allowed back to UK, the right-wing element are giving her grief but feck me she was 15 when she left

Let her back in, but keep her in Larne. At the weekends, handcuff her to Jolene Bunting.

She'd be crying to get back to Syria.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: nrico2006 on September 15, 2021, 08:46:09 PM
She was old enough to know what she was at. Keep her out.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: laoislad on September 15, 2021, 08:46:40 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: Orior on September 15, 2021, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 15, 2021, 08:46:40 PM
Who?

Rory McIlroy's new caddie.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: johnnycool on September 17, 2021, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 15, 2021, 08:46:09 PM
She was old enough to know what she was at. Keep her out.

She was 15 and she was groomed online..

Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: nrico2006 on September 17, 2021, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 17, 2021, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 15, 2021, 08:46:09 PM
She was old enough to know what she was at. Keep her out.

She was 15 and she was groomed online..

She was 15 though and by that age you know what you are at.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: Itchy on September 17, 2021, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 17, 2021, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 17, 2021, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 15, 2021, 08:46:09 PM
She was old enough to know what she was at. Keep her out.

She was 15 and she was groomed online..

She was 15 though and by that age you know what you are at.

You do? Depends on the 15 year old. I expect a lot of people would look back at their 15 year old self and be very embarrassed. She was only a kid in my opinion and I am sure she is as much a victim as others. Little britainers cant see past their nose though.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: thebigfella on September 17, 2021, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 17, 2021, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 17, 2021, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 15, 2021, 08:46:09 PM
She was old enough to know what she was at. Keep her out.

She was 15 and she was groomed online..

She was 15 though and by that age you know what you are at.

In the eyes of the law, she's was a child. If she was was white and non-muslim, she'd be back by now and the same people calling for her not to be allowed back would be blaming the people responsible for grooming a child online.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: nrico2006 on September 17, 2021, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 17, 2021, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 17, 2021, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 17, 2021, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 15, 2021, 08:46:09 PM
She was old enough to know what she was at. Keep her out.

She was 15 and she was groomed online..

She was 15 though and by that age you know what you are at.

You do? Depends on the 15 year old. I expect a lot of people would look back at their 15 year old self and be very embarrassed. She was only a kid in my opinion and I am sure she is as much a victim as others. Little britainers cant see past their nose though.

I'm embarassed by things I did last week, never mind what I did at 15.  But there is a big difference between doing a few childish things and going to join a terrorist organisation. 
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:02:09 PM
The UK govt have given another returning Jihadi bride a £500K house in London and are covering all of her medical bills.

I don't blame people for being furious
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: gallsman on September 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
British citizen avails of NHS. Shocker.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
British citizen avails of NHS. Shocker.

British Citizen who voluntarily and illegally entered a war zone to side with a murderous Islamic death cult has medical bills paid for by taxpayer
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: Itchy on September 17, 2021, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:02:09 PM
The UK govt have given another returning Jihadi bride a £500K house in London and are covering all of her medical bills.

I don't blame people for being furious

Furious is what Little Britainer and DUP'ers do best. Outrage, Fury etc etc. Thats why the idiots voted for Brexit
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: whitey on September 17, 2021, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 17, 2021, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:02:09 PM
The UK govt have given another returning Jihadi bride a £500K house in London and are covering all of her medical bills.

I don't blame people for being furious

Furious is what Little Britainer and DUP'ers do best. Outrage, Fury etc etc. Thats why the idiots voted for Brexit

Why does she need a £500K house in London?
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 17, 2021, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
British citizen avails of NHS. Shocker.

British Citizen who voluntarily and illegally entered a war zone to side with a murderous Islamic death cult has medical bills paid for by taxpayer

Irish man in America worried about the cost of something to the British taxpayer.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: whitey on September 17, 2021, 08:17:48 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 17, 2021, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
British citizen avails of NHS. Shocker.

British Citizen who voluntarily and illegally entered a war zone to side with a murderous Islamic death cult has medical bills paid for by taxpayer

Irish man in America worried about the cost of something to the British taxpayer.

Irishman on a discussion board discussing things
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: gallsman on September 18, 2021, 12:41:54 AM
Quote from: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
British citizen avails of NHS. Shocker.

British Citizen who voluntarily and illegally entered a war zone to side with a murderous Islamic death cult has medical bills paid for by taxpayer

I didn't realise criminals or suspected criminals were barred from availing of services offered by the NHS. Can you point to the legislation that bans it please?
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: whitey on September 18, 2021, 01:28:53 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2021, 12:41:54 AM
Quote from: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
British citizen avails of NHS. Shocker.

British Citizen who voluntarily and illegally entered a war zone to side with a murderous Islamic death cult has medical bills paid for by taxpayer

I didn't realise criminals or suspected criminals were barred from availing of services offered by the NHS. Can you point to the legislation that bans it please?

Absolutely..... happy to oblige

If you commit treason or espionage you can have your citizenship revoked which would then disqualify you from availing of NHS services

https://whsolicitors.co.uk/can-british-citizenship-taken-away/
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: gallsman on September 18, 2021, 07:46:13 AM
Quote from: whitey on September 18, 2021, 01:28:53 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2021, 12:41:54 AM
Quote from: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
British citizen avails of NHS. Shocker.

British Citizen who voluntarily and illegally entered a war zone to side with a murderous Islamic death cult has medical bills paid for by taxpayer

I didn't realise criminals or suspected criminals were barred from availing of services offered by the NHS. Can you point to the legislation that bans it please?

Absolutely..... happy to oblige

If you commit treason or espionage you can have your citizenship revoked which would then disqualify you from availing of NHS services

https://whsolicitors.co.uk/can-british-citizenship-taken-away/

And has the individual you're referring to had her citizenship revoked? Or been so much as charged with an offence?

No, so shut the f**k up.
Title: Re: Shamima Begum
Post by: whitey on September 18, 2021, 11:34:08 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2021, 07:46:13 AM
Quote from: whitey on September 18, 2021, 01:28:53 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2021, 12:41:54 AM
Quote from: whitey on September 17, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
British citizen avails of NHS. Shocker.

British Citizen who voluntarily and illegally entered a war zone to side with a murderous Islamic death cult has medical bills paid for by taxpayer

I didn't realise criminals or suspected criminals were barred from availing of services offered by the NHS. Can you point to the legislation that bans it please?

Absolutely..... happy to oblige

If you commit treason or espionage you can have your citizenship revoked which would then disqualify you from availing of NHS services

https://whsolicitors.co.uk/can-british-citizenship-taken-away/

And has the individual you're referring to had her citizenship revoked? Or been so much as charged with an offence?

No, so shut the f**k up.

Anyone who joins ISIS should have their citizenship revoked-100%. No if ands or buts!

What deterrent is there to prevent others from joining if there are no consequences. This other one was to actually rewarded for her stupidity by being given a £500K house paid for by the taxpayers upon her return.

I'd leave them where they are

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/explainers-53428191.amp