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Wouldn't keystone be an hour away from where he's from?

Think Micky Hartes giving him a lift to work

[The proposal on youth football is U14 and U18 to start on February 22nd with U16 starting a week later. I can't see this working at all, especially for smaller clubs who have U14's playing U16 and U16 playing U18.]

Proposal is for senior football to start on March 29th with Reserves to move to a stand alone fixture on a Monday night on a Regional basis.
I can see the positives of moving Reserve football to a stand alone fixture but not sure if Monday is the best option for it to work. Maybe a Friday instead as it would better suit students and men working away a lot better.

The proposal on youth football is U14 and U18 to start on February 22nd with U16 starting a week later. I can't see this working at all, especially for smaller clubs who have U14's playing U16 and U16 playing U18.

Was there not similar proposal put forward and defeated last year?

I would think the lads would rather be playing twice a week than training. However it does not leave much room for coaching sessions.
At the moment the gap between ending u-14s (June) and starting u16's (the following August) is too large and that 14 month gap could lead to a lot of drop out of players who are not able to play a grade above themselves.

Something has to be done about the delay of u16 until August because of minors which is in turn delayed by County u-17's and u-20's.

Someone mentioned earlier about a meeting to take place last night. Any update

Yes, meeting took place. Proposals were put forward to clubs, they are to go back to clubs to discuss and meeting will reconvene next Tuesday.

Briefly Proposal 1...U14/16/18 will all begin end Feb/beginning of March. Fixtures will run U14/18 one week and U16 the next and finish in September. Plenty of matches for underage footballers.

Proposal 2...Reserve football will decouple with senior football. There will be 2 regions (east/west) which will be split into 3 divisions. Start end of March and will run weekly and uninterrupted until end of June. Championship then starts finishing at beginning of August. These matches are proposed to be held on Monday evenings throughout the summer.

Proposal 3...Adult football will go to 4 divisions in 2021. (1A, 1B, 2, 3) 12 in each division, play home and away (22 matches). Matches with county players playing worth 4 points for a win, without county players worth 2 points for a win. The reasoning behind the third proposal is to do with upcoming changes at national level. We are looking at county football only from 2021 during May, June, July, August. This plan allows club football to continue during these months without county players. Championship football will remain as is with 16 teams in senior, intermediate and junior.

IMO these are positive changes from CCC, far from perfect but I don't think perfect exists. Last night proved that not everyone will be happy, we had people asking about were handball fits into the system, how reserve players that fly back to play matches will fit in etc. Reserve football is dying a death, the vast majority were happy with the new prosposed system, just not on a Monday night (but what night/day suits?). Proposal 3 is another must or we end up playing a cluster of matches in April and then virtually nothing until August, basically how we are now, if that continues we may as well kiss the club game goodbye.

Monday night games are stupid, say 2 degrees are playing in sallys on a sunday night are we as reserve players expected to miss that? Not a chance

The brother Lorcan I believe.

He was an S&C coach for some team in the past I believe cant mind who - must be into the coaching/managing too.

He was S&C coach with Slaughtneil in 2019 and I think he has been with Cavan underage teams as well in the last.

He was also S & C for TyroneU21s in 2015 when they won the All Ireland !!!

You're right so he was. Forgot about that and the Fermanagh job. Maybe he wasn't at Cavan at all. Hard to keep up sometimes with who has been where.

Was in Cavan with McGleenan. However, I don't think it matters where he has been. Edendork will struggle this year big time with Morgan, Darren and Conn with Tyrone. Edendork have a good 15 (Including the 3 county lads) but after that they are very very poor. Barely anything on the bench in the championship last year against Carrickmore and it cost them the game.

Edendork the standout team in Intermediate this year. Will go in as favourites for both league and championship. With the exception of Eglish, they will still expect to win their starred games against anyone else in Division 2.

I would imagine Clogher, Owen Roes, Gortin, Moortown, Augher, Beragh, Aghyaran, Greencastle, Strabane, Stewartstown, Newtown (In order of 2019 league table) will have something to say about that. Tyrone Intermediate football is the most competitive around the province.

That's a brave call predicting 11 teams who could do well this year very ballsy as they say live by the sword die by the sword

I thought Carrickmore deserved their win although Dungannon never showed on the day and were missing two senior players Oran Mallon and Naoise Martin. Two evenly matched teams who should both be in the mix again next year, hopefully run off before black eye friday 2020.

Carrickmore where missing 2 senior players in Tiarnan Murray and Oran McKee plus their County u20 from last year wasn't fit to play the second half due illness.  Someone telling me on Saturday night that only 2 of our starting team on Saturday is over age next year.

Hearing only for the referee carrickmore wouldn't have won

The Referee that sent three Carrickmore players off?

As i said what i have heard wasn't at the game myself however was a former Carrickmore and Tyrone player who told me it

I thought Carrickmore deserved their win although Dungannon never showed on the day and were missing two senior players Oran Mallon and Naoise Martin. Two evenly matched teams who should both be in the mix again next year, hopefully run off before black eye friday 2020.

Carrickmore where missing 2 senior players in Tiarnan Murray and Oran McKee plus their County u20 from last year wasn't fit to play the second half due illness.  Someone telling me on Saturday night that only 2 of our starting team on Saturday is over age next year.

Hearing only for the referee carrickmore wouldn't have won

I don't really mind paid managers but it's the absolute charlatans who aren't any good who keep getting new teams over and over and over again. But I suppose that says more about the clubs that the managers.

Paul rouses' ears will be burning right now

Donaghmore about to pay the man who just missed out on Clonoe job serious money....

How much is serious money nowadays?

Going rate for a D1 manager payment can be anything from 12k to 25k. Depending on club and manager involved.

25k for one man? Seems like an awful amount of money. How much would the likes of McBride be getting in Errigal? And does it come with a championship clause?

Seems stupid errigal paying anyone at all to manage them considering there resources. For a club to pay someone whilst having probably the greatest player to ever play the game at there club seems silly.

Agree, however there is no point opening that can of worms. I have just learnt not to expect anything simple by Errigal. With men like Canavan, the Hartes, O'Roarke, and a rack of other men with valuable experience on the pitch and on the line, you'd think they can find someone within their own ranks that could step up?

Don't forget Enda McGinley. He took them to back to back minor championships in 17 and 18, surely the logical step would be for him to take the senior job and help bring these boys through. He managed Swatragh this year so time mustn't be an issue for him.

Time maybe isnt an issue, but doubt Errigal would be interested in giving him the figures he asked certain Armagh club for or got from Swatragh

Are errigal even good enough to win a championship?

Donaghmore about to pay the man who just missed out on Clonoe job serious money....

How much is serious money nowadays?

Going rate for a D1 manager payment can be anything from 12k to 25k. Depending on club and manager involved.

25k for one man? Seems like an awful amount of money. How much would the likes of McBride be getting in Errigal? And does it come with a championship clause?

Seems stupid errigal paying anyone at all to manage them considering there resources. For a club to pay someone whilst having probably the greatest player to ever play the game at there club seems silly. Would it not make sense for him to manage them?

Brendan Mc Laughlin had some game imo.Carmen showed some resolve to pull game our of the fire.Why go outside county for coaches when you have Ryan Daly who took on Carmen when no one else wanted it and has improved them no end.

Did carrickmore not come 13th in the league? 1 place above relegation playoffs. Great improvement get him back in the county set up

[why we have such great attendances at games]

Agree here also, part of the reason why we have such great attendances at games and the joy of knockout football is giving smaller teams the chance of knocking a big team out! And there is no way in hell we could throw more fixtures at our County board!!

Do we? It was only a couple of weeks ago we were talking about how the attendance at this year's SFC Final was notably lower than in previous years. Plus, is there any way to quantify attendances in earlier rounds to those elsewhere in Ulster, at least?

Leave the championship alone. We have the best in Ulster with the straight knockout format. Do or die on the day is what championship is all about.

Antrim, Derry & Fermanagh all ran a straight knockout format for their Senior Football championships this year as well, there's nothing special about Tyrone also using the same format.

It's that format that makes Tyrone special. You shouldn't be able to win a championship having lost a game in it imo.

Exactly what makes every game competitive and helps gain new winners every year save the tables for the league, for example this year carrickmore the 13th best team in the division able to make a semi final which helps a small club like that enjoy big days out which they probably wouldnt with another format

Championship structure may need changed too, every other county seem to do the groups allowing teams to have off days. Not a back door but a group of 3 and the top two qualify or something. As well as every other county doing it, it is also similar to the Super 8s

Yes thats what Tyrone needs more games, at least then teams will be the opportunity to play football over Christmas

Are Greencastle the greatest reserve team in the history of Tyrone club football? another championship last night

Mike Basset added to the management team as a selector im hearing?

seen a funny Twitter poll few months ago. Asked who should manage Tyrone next year, Mickey harte or Mike Basset? 87% said Bassett.

What did the funny twitter poll say?

Jesus we're completely doomed without Donnelly now. Who will explain the weights exercises to the lads now? Who will set up the cones for training drills?

You could nearly do it as its so easy done?

He is a god damn strength and conditioning coach for crying out loud.
You would think he is some sort of super coach
When do you ever hear of strength coaches in other sports?
All blacks no
Barcelona no
Dublin no
Kilkenny no
Tyrone 03/05/08 no
Liverpool no
corafin no
Caula no

Some people of building these strength coaches up to something they are not. Clare Meath Longford all strip out bigger than Tyrone ffs. Give over and move on lads.
Tyrone will get another man in who does the same shite for half the  cost and within a month the players will love him. Just the way the Monaghan lads will one Donnelly just the way they loved whoever the last strength coach was
They are on a serious gravy train that I know

Dublin dont have a S&C coach?!? Iv heard some pretty stupid things on this board but this my friend tops the lot