NFL Division 1 2024

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From the Bunker

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 18, 2024, 03:59:42 PMTyrone went downhill badly from their All-Ireland win, hard to nail what's wrong, or why they fell away.If they haven't Morgan or Canavan available they be in serious trouble

It;s quite easy - there was a plethora of lads who retired or dropped out after the AI win. They had put in years a drudgery under Harte, got to the promised land under Dooher. They knew they were not at the beginning of something big but at the end and counted their blessings to have got an AI at the end of it all.

ClubScene13

Tyrone poor again. If Mayo turn them over next week I'd say the game v Monaghan in Round 6 will sort out the relegation picture.

screenexile

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 18, 2024, 04:23:11 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 18, 2024, 03:59:42 PMTyrone went downhill badly from their All-Ireland win, hard to nail what's wrong, or why they fell away.If they haven't Morgan or Canavan available they be in serious trouble

It;s quite easy - there was a plethora of lads who retired or dropped out after the AI win. They had put in years a drudgery under Harte, got to the promised land under Dooher. They knew they were not at the beginning of something big but at the end and counted their blessings to have got an AI at the end of it all.

As much as they don't want to hear it you can see that they were an average team who took advantage of all the breaks they got that year.

It was said at the time on numerous occasions and rebutted but the past few years have clearly showed it!

trueblue1234

Quote from: screenexile on February 18, 2024, 05:09:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 18, 2024, 04:23:11 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 18, 2024, 03:59:42 PMTyrone went downhill badly from their All-Ireland win, hard to nail what's wrong, or why they fell away.If they haven't Morgan or Canavan available they be in serious trouble

It;s quite easy - there was a plethora of lads who retired or dropped out after the AI win. They had put in years a drudgery under Harte, got to the promised land under Dooher. They knew they were not at the beginning of something big but at the end and counted their blessings to have got an AI at the end of it all.

As much as they don't want to hear it you can see that they were an average team who took advantage of all the breaks they got that year.

It was said at the time on numerous occasions and rebutted but the past few years have clearly showed it!
This was absolutely the case. Tyrone were lucky that they were in a position to win it with Covid etc. but it's an AI regardless, and all the sweeter for coming unexpected.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

An Watcher

Plenty of very average kerry n dublin teams won all irelands over the years.  Christ sake, at times kerry only had one proper match.  Was nice to take an unexpected all ireland.  What derry, Armagh, donegal or down would give fir an unexpected one but chin up, ye never know

square_ball

Ah jaysus lads stop with the Covid All Ireland shite. Tyrone won it fair and square that year. Beating Cavan, Donegal, Monaghan, Kerry and Mayo is worthy of winning any AI any year.

Tyrone may be very average now but give over about being lucky to win an all Ireland ffs.

Truthsayer

Quote from: square_ball on February 18, 2024, 05:20:10 PMAh jaysus lads stop with the Covid All Ireland shite. Tyrone won it fair and square that year. Beating Cavan, Donegal, Monaghan, Kerry and Mayo is worthy of winning any AI any year.

Tyrone may be very average now but give over about being lucky to win an all Ireland ffs.
Correctamundo..
Typical begrudgery. Dublin and Limerick won All Irelands in empty stadiums in December the previous year and no mention of Covid All Irelands. Tyrone won well... Kerry had the option of not playing semi-final when Tyrone requested an extra week but thought it would be a nice challenge match before the All Ireland final.. 2021 All Ireland champions Tyrone. Get over it 🏆

trueblue1234

Quote from: square_ball on February 18, 2024, 05:20:10 PMAh jaysus lads stop with the Covid All Ireland shite. Tyrone won it fair and square that year. Beating Cavan, Donegal, Monaghan, Kerry and Mayo is worthy of winning any AI any year.

Tyrone may be very average now but give over about being lucky to win an all Ireland ffs.
They were imo. Not lucky with decisions, but lucky that they squeezed it out before that squad started to fade. In a normal year, I'd have tipped Dublin to win it. That's no slight on that Tyrone team, quite the opposite. There's been many a county who would have been at a similar level to that Tyrone team and not got an AI. Take your dinner when it's hot.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

RedHand88

Quote from: screenexile on February 18, 2024, 05:09:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 18, 2024, 04:23:11 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 18, 2024, 03:59:42 PMTyrone went downhill badly from their All-Ireland win, hard to nail what's wrong, or why they fell away.If they haven't Morgan or Canavan available they be in serious trouble

It;s quite easy - there was a plethora of lads who retired or dropped out after the AI win. They had put in years a drudgery under Harte, got to the promised land under Dooher. They knew they were not at the beginning of something big but at the end and counted their blessings to have got an AI at the end of it all.

As much as they don't want to hear it you can see that they were an average team who took advantage of all the breaks they got that year.

It was said at the time on numerous occasions and rebutted but the past few years have clearly showed it!

An average team who beat Cavan (Ulster champions), Donegal, Monaghan, Kerry and Mayo (comfortably).
Please please can people stop the "Tyrone were lucky" crap because its getting boring. They were the best team in Ireland that year. If they were lucky they wouldn't have had half the squad missing for the Ulster final!
Dublin and Kerry regularly win all Irelands only needing to beat 1 or 2 Division 1 teams... Lucky?

Captain Obvious

Tyrone 2021 was the worst All-Ireland winning team since Dublin in 1995. Dublin wouldn't reach another final after that until 2011.

sam03/05

Tyrone have 5 or 6 All Star players missing - Meyler, Burns, McCurry, McShane, Mattie Donnelly, McGeary (latter played 15 mins) so they are missing a few players. Should improve when they have full squad available

An Watcher

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 18, 2024, 05:35:17 PMTyrone 2021 was the worst All-Ireland winning team since Dublin in 1995. Dublin wouldn't reach another final after that until 2011.

No, I think Derry in 93 were the worst all ireland winning team considering they had basically no real forwards.  Excellent defence and midfield and some good free takers

Wildweasel74

Dublin were actually still probably the best team that year, but Mayo caught them on the hop, after years of been beat by them,then couldn't produce the same display after.

Wildweasel74

Meath 1996 and Kerry 1997 weren't great either.

clarshack

Dublin 2020 was the easiest AI run ever.