Armagh Club football & hurling

[AFS]

And it will happen over and over again  and this will all add to the downfall . When a club have more principles than a county team over the inclusion of a player then something is wrong . What way do these transfer work ? What are the timescales?

In fairness, the circumstances Cross and Armagh find themselves in aren't really comparable.

[winsamsoon]

Of course they are comparable. A county team should be at the very least, drilled and organised as the best club in the county. When the county teams standards are falling below the actions of a club then something is wrong. When a lads own club won't take him back probably because they don't want to upset the apple cart then the county should at least follow suit but for some reason they have decided to include a lad in the panel after telling ten lads there wasn't any room for them but we will put you on a development squad. Also who has been dropped off the panel to make way for him?

[AFS]

The circumstances are not comparable. Cross have been together for 12 months and are on the brink of an AI semi final. Armagh have been together for about 3 minutes and are on the brink of a pre-season friendly.

Also, the idea that someone must be excluded before anyone new is added to the panel is bunk, especially at this time of the year. While there may be an official limit on panel size, in reality teams carry as many as they like.

[deargdoom]

Also who has been dropped off the panel to make way for him?

Theres 33 on the panel at the minute. Henderson's spot was there anyway.

[armaghniac]

The circumstances are not comparable. Cross have been together for 12 months and are on the brink of an AI semi final. Armagh have been together for about 3 minutes and are on the brink of a pre-season friendly.

Also, the idea that someone must be excluded before anyone new is added to the panel is bunk, especially at this time of the year. While there may be an official limit on panel size, in reality teams carry as many as they like.

+1 This time of year you try people out, later on you possibly bring in university players and cut down the panel.

[winsamsoon]

Armagh have not been together all of 3 minutes as you say because the majority of the panel hasn't changed since last year and they will have been training together behind closed doors over the winter months whether it has been strength training or what. So they are not the tru circumstances.

I don't really care what you say in an ideal scenario your county team shoud be setting the example for the club teams and not the other way around

[crossfire]

A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.

I don't really object to Murtagh being in the squad. He is an option, he's a good footballer who might be a squad option for us so on that basis I've no difficulties with him taking part in the McKenna Cup. I would, however, object if it turned out that our county squad was being used solely to assist a particular club.

I see the grapes are still a bit sour.

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.

I don't really object to Murtagh being in the squad. He is an option, he's a good footballer who might be a squad option for us so on that basis I've no difficulties with him taking part in the McKenna Cup. I would, however, object if it turned out that our county squad was being used solely to assist a particular club.

I see the grapes are still a bit sour.

Not at all, just stating a fairly reasonable point of principle. By disagreeing with me, are you saying that Paddy O'Rourke should be making decisions based on what's good for Crossmaglen, rather than what's good for Armagh?

[fitzroyalty]

The tail wagging the dog is not new in this county.

[crossfire]

A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.

I don't really object to Murtagh being in the squad. He is an option, he's a good footballer who might be a squad option for us so on that basis I've no difficulties with him taking part in the McKenna Cup. I would, however, object if it turned out that our county squad was being used solely to assist a particular club.

I see the grapes are still a bit sour.

Not at all, just stating a fairly reasonable point of principle. By disagreeing with me, are you saying that Paddy O'Rourke should be making decisions based on what's good for Crossmaglen, rather than what's good for Armagh?

John Murtagh is not in the Cross Rangers panel despite offering his services.
Nor will he be in the panel until our participation in the all Ireland club series is complete.

[charlie stubbs]

we got anportmor in championship.happy with that

[charlie stubbs]

league starts 17th april

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

St Pat's v Whitecross in SFC

St Pat's II v Belleek in JFC

[charlie stubbs]

clan eireann v cross
ogs v dromitee
clans v cruppen

killeavey v middletown

[fitzroyalty]

SFC Draw

Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppen
Maghery v Sarsfield's
Cullyhanna v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Clann Eireann
Granemore v Newtown
Pearse Og v Dromintee
Harps v Mullabawn

Ballymacnab Bye

Two mouth-watering ties.

INTERMEDIATE
Killeavy v Middletown
St. Peters v Silverbridge
St. Pauls v Tir na Og
Shane O'Neills v Keady
Madden v Collegeland
Wolfe Tones v An Port Mor
Culloville v Grange
Ballyhegan - bye

JUNIOR

Preliminary Round
Mullaghbrack v Forkhill
Clonmore v Annaghmore
Crossmaglen II v Killean

1st Round
Lissummon v Mullaghbrack or Forkhill
Dromintee II v O'Hanlons
Dorsey Emmetts v Clady
Eire Og v Tullysaran
St. Patricks II v Belleek
Phelim Bradys v Correnshego
Derrynoose v Clonmore or Annaghmore
Killeavy II v Crossmaglen II or Killean