Armagh Club football & hurling

[winsamsoon]

Once again the glipe known as pints as buted into another discussion without actually giving an opinion on the issue at hand. Says a  lot about that guy. Have an opinion pints and quit sniping at other people who have the taws for a proper debate.

I think now corn you are beginning to argue the point that i was making to you all along. That point was that Dromintee cannot be considered the seconds best or the best challengers to cross because they simply have won nothing. In the same way as Clans, Harps , Ogs etc cannot be considered in this role. Getting beat in the championship semi's and finals doesn't count for nothing as you like ourselves haven't won anything in terms of championships.

Doire you say that the clans haven't beaten Dromintee either and this is correct but we sure didn't play them every year in the championship. We have only played Dromintee three times in the championship over the last 13 years. The fact that we have came second to them does this make us their nearest challengers??? Of course not. If we looked at the the roll of honour for Armagh senior football over the last 12 years we would firstly see a massive list of cross for the championship we would see 1 Dromintee league 1 mullaghbawn 1 cullyhanna 7 Clan Na Gael and the rest are probably cross. That is what any outsider would see if they examined the roll of Honour of Armagh football. They wouldn't see any runner up places or beaten semi finalists. Now i am not sitting here claiming that the clans have been the nearest rivals to the cross. I am merely saying all teams are the nearest challengers because no one has beaten them. Some teams may be more capable than others but they are certainly no nearer.

[IVEDECIDED]

So boring

Then f**k off somewhere else son!

[downtown]

So boring

Agreed!

[brokencrossbar1]

I love the way that every so often there is this crazy row over who is the second best team in Armagh(snigger,snigger)

[full back]

You can win all the lkeagues you want and so can we, but until a team beats Cross it doesn't matter one bit.

Case closed

P.S son, ill decide when the case gets closed!

You decide then
This 'debate' has been running for f**king ages.......
If some team get beat by Cross this year can they join the debate?

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

The year before they won division 2 with a record no. of points. (No Big Deal)

How many points did Clans drop in their year in division 2?

[corn02]

No lad it doesnt as I said in my initial point I was not campaigning for the importance of the league. Plus the national league is used more and more as trial matches by the bigger counties, this is less so in club football. I would be of the opinion that you cant really compare the two, however I take your point.
I also believe your point about not remembering the year Dromintee won it. I work with Clans ones and I remember having to inform them on a Monday that their team had won the league the previous day. Even this was treated with distain and a who cares attitude. I know for a fact that they would swap all 8 leagues for one championship without thinking twice.
My point is this however, my club certainly wouldnt need reminded about winning league titles or any other kind cause no matter what the competion, if we were in with a shout of winning it the whole club would be in a frenzy for weeks. This tells you how often we win things. The same is for the rest of Armagh unfortunately, whether you agree or not. Outside of Cross and Clans and maybe another, trophies are at an absolute premium with many clubs going decades without any silverware. Thats the exact reason why I cant understand people undermining the winning of a league title!  As ive said this is 1 of only 2 available trophies each year!! 

Jesus man, a decent post for once. For the record I think your a Mullabrack man.

[pintsofguinness]

Rufus, is there anyway you could make the Harps thread in to the Clans thread and they could all stay over there and we'll carry on here?
(Not that I can speak anything because I don't live in the country anymore)

Hi pints you should take another 2 of those F**k off tablets you took a few weeks back.

P.S. give that tube of a ref (R Quigley) a couple from the bridge as well

Slabber slabber

Winsam

Once again the glipe known as pints as buted into another discussion without actually giving an opinion on the issue at hand. Says a  lot about that guy. Have an opinion pints and quit sniping at other people who have the taws for a proper debate.

Slabber Slabber Slabber

[pintsofguinness]

So boring

Agreed!

Agree too, boring as f**k!

[Dannymcfella]

I love the way that every so often there is this crazy row over who is the second best team in Armagh(snigger,snigger)

Second best only means your the best looser!!

[pintsofguinness]

I love the way that every so often there is this crazy row over who is the second best team in Armagh(snigger,snigger)

Second best only means your the best looser!!

In that case I'd say Clans win the losers competion by quite a bit.

[winsamsoon]

That was almost an opinion on something pints well done you are improving

[IVEDECIDED]

Jesus man, a decent post for once. For the record I think your a Mullabrack man.
[/quote]

No im a Lurgan man, just not a bluenose!

The year before they won division 2 with a record no. of points. (No Big Deal)

How many points did Clans drop in their year in division 2?

Just the 2 I think, 2 draws.

[Onion Bag]

I was over in Keady last night to watch junior c'ship game between Clady and Derrynoose, Philip Loughran was standing behind the wire with the spectators, does anyone know is that him finished or is he playing any ball at all, BTW derrynoose won by 5-6 points,

[gaapunter]

ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 27th JULY 2008


ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 15 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Pearse Og 13 6 3 4 15
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
St Patrick's 15 7 1 7 15
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Killeavey 14 5 1 8 11
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 16 12 1 3 25
Carrickcruppen 16 10 1 5 21
St Michael's 16 9 1 6 19
Tir na nÓg 14 9 0 5 18
Clann Eireann 14 8 1 5 17
Granemore 15 8 0 7 16
Ballymacnab 14 6 1 7 13
Silverbridge 14 6 1 7 13
Wolfe Tone 14 6 0 8 12
Whitecross 15 4 0 11 8
An Port Mor 15 3 1 11 7
Keady 11 2 1 8 5

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 14 11 2 1 24
St Paul's 15 11 1 3 23
Collegeland 16 10 2 4 22
Ballyhegan 14 8 0 6 16
Belleek 14 7 2 5 16
Annaghmore 15 8 0 7 16
St Peter's 14 5 2 7 12
Clonmore 14 4 3 7 11
Lissummon 15 5 3 7 13
Tullysaran 15 4 2 9 10
Grange 15 3 1 11 7
Crossmaglen II 13 1 2 10 4

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 14 13 1 0 27
Eire Og 15 10 1 4 21
Middletown 12 8 3 1 19
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Derrynoose 13 9 0 4 18
Clady 13 6 2 5 14
O'Hanlon's 14 7 0 7 14
Corrinshego 14 4 1 9 9
Dorsey Emmett's 14 3 0 11 6
Mullaghbrack 15 3 1 11 7
Phelim Brady's 14 0 0 14 0

That table's is wrong Hank.  Killeavey have 13 points.  they have also played 15

Lads updated table on The offical Armagh website- I thik it may be slightly wrong at the bottom

Rank   Team Played W D L Points
1  (1)    Crossmaglen
         15  13  2  0  28 
2  (2)    Cullaville
         14  8  1  5  17 
3  (4)    St Patricks Cullyhanna
         15  8  1  6  17 
4  (3)    Clan na Gael
         14  6  3  5  15 
5  (5)    Pearse Og
         13  6  3  4  15 
6  (6)    Mullabawn
         15  5  2  8  12 
7  (    Killeavy
         15  5  1  9  11 
8  (7)    Dromintee
         14  5  1  8  11 
9  (9)    Harps
         15  4  2  9  10 
10  (10)    Maghery
         14  3  2  9  8