Armagh Club football & hurling

[ogshead]

hope you went home at 8 for bed, school today. ps flags and bunting doesnt win a match. bit of a rip off £50 per sign. Spoke to ogs people and they only had to pay £30.

£30 v £50

I guess they wanted to charge according to the relative wealth / class distribution in the town.

I'm proud to be working class. Also, the Ogs supporters didn't have to pay at all this year as they paid for them in 2007. That works out at £10/year, now that's value for money!!

[haveaharp]

hope you went home at 8 for bed, school today. ps flags and bunting doesnt win a match. bit of a rip off £50 per sign. Spoke to ogs people and they only had to pay £30.

£30 v £50

I guess they wanted to charge according to the relative wealth / class distribution in the town.

I'm proud to be working class. Also, the Ogs supporters didn't have to pay at all this year as they paid for them in 2007. That works out at £10/year, now that's value for money!!

Well if you are part of the working classes that is commendable for that side of town.

[thewanderer]

haveaharp do you have a job or are you another teachers son. spoilt brat.  plenty of real harps people are working class or on the js. dont forget it was because of prats like you that ogs started up.

[thewanderer]

sorry rufus not all teachers sons just the spoilt ones. but didn't like the class distinction comments

[haveaharp]

sorry rufus not all teachers sons just the spoilt ones. but didn't like the class distinction comments

dry them

[Passing_Interest]

Wanderer, fair comments on the silly posts about class and money.
You raise an interesting point in your last post - a point I first heard just recently from a proud Ogs man.
But is it really true that the Ogs started as a result of some perceived class distinction on the part if the Harps at the time ?
Or was it not simply the case that the town was big enough for 2 teams given the amount of boys not getting football with the only club in the town ?
Can't remember if Phil's history deals with this issue.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Wanderer, fair comments on the silly posts about class and money.
You raise an interesting point in your last post - a point I first heard just recently from a proud Ogs man.
But is it really true that the Ogs started as a result of some perceived class distinction on the part if the Harps at the time ?
Or was it not simply the case that the town was big enough for 2 teams given the amount of boys not getting football with the only club in the town ?
Can't remember if Phil's history deals with this issue.

Rufus Senior called round and we were taping a copy of Joe McManus's video of the life of Jim McCullough. The Ogs definitely started because there was not enough football for all those that wanted it.

[maddog]

My understanding of the formation of the ogs was because the Harps could have fielded enough teams to have their own league. Dont think it had anything to do with percieved class etc, just that guys werent getting enough football. I suppose with all the street leagues going on at the time (Navan street for example) it was only natural that a team would form up the other side of the town. Its a pity that the street leagues died off - id say they would have been some craic.

[illdecide]

You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh

[maddog]

You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh

Why so many clubs - is there a history to that ?
nearest would be the grange i suppose - 2 miles out the Moy road.

[lurganblue]

You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh

Why so many clubs - is there a history to that ?
nearest would be the grange i suppose - 2 miles out the Moy road.

yes. we do f**k all but argue and fight in lurgan... hence so many teams. couldnt agree on the colour of shite 

[armagh leg-end]

You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh

madden about two mile out the road. nab would be close enough as well!

[IVEDECIDED]

They are only in the vacinity its not as though the Harps and Ogs are competing with them for young players. Lurgan also has St. Marys on its doorstep, although they play in the Antrim league they compete in the North Armagh championship. (Pat McMahon cup) Clans, Clann Eireann, St. Peters, St.Pauls, Eire Og, Wolf Tonnes and Sarsfileds all have their own catchment are of sorts however they all compete frantically for players, facilities and fundraising opportunities! When one club comes up with a good fundraising plan all clubs support it however it usually means that they have to wait to do one themselves as the people of the town be sick of handing out to the Gaelic clubs!

[winsamsoon]

14,590 population of Armagh city (wikipedia) (Not sure how what percentage kick with the other foot) estimate half???


25,000 (wiki) Population of Lurgan and i would estimate about 13,000 would kick with the other wan) so it is a lot of teams for such a small population.

People make the mistake of thinking that Lurgan is a massive area but when the population is broken down it becomes relatively small in comparison with a lot of places. You can see how 6 or 7 teams in a small area could cause potential problems. All i have done is mentioned religious divisions but this isn't even taking into account the amount of people that are not involved in Gaelic plus the amount of soccer heads that are increasingly prevalent in Lurgan.

[illdecide]

Yeah man...but i'd imagine Armagh would be every bit as bad as Lurgan with regarding drinking and anti social behaviour